Lets play it. Were seeing more and more that people often model their lives on their parents. Their parents went to college, so do they. If their parents married late, so do they. If their parents go to church, so do they. And i can tell you from personal experience if your parents worked in politics, well, you know the rest. Humor there but its funny because it is true. We know it is his mother who said perhaps we should be at a point in our society the bush name and the clinton name are eliminated from the list of potential president s. Tamron, those last names can be a tremendous asset when it comes to fundrairaising, to bee establishment candidate in your field. Its true for jeb bush, also Hillary Clinton if she decides to run. It could end up being a disadvantage if americans are wanting change and an election about the future. It is worth noting that 2016 could very well be the year of the political sequel or you have the political rerun. You end up having a bush in the field, a clinton, a paul after ron paul, rand runs. Do we see mitt romney run again . A whole host of characters who have been in this before. If voters say i want something different, they may not be able to find that or look to somebody who could be represented for that. It was predicted after barbara bush made the comment last april, its enough of the bushes that would be use d in a ad if jeb decides to run. In your first read you point out a yes for jeb probably freezes out romney and rubio. Thats very important. The rubio one is potentially more immediate. Its just really rare that you end up seeing two president ial candidates from the same state and from the same party. They typically are fighting over the same endorsements, the same big donors from that particular state and i think there is some sense if jeb bush decides to run, his political disciple marco rubio probably takes a pass. You mention ed mitt romney. Does he decide to get in. A lot of rationale for a mitt romney, a third president ial run for him, is if a jeb bush said no, a Chris Christie says no. Thats very interesting. What does this mean for Hillary Clinton now that jeb has made this ever so slight move . You know, there still is the big debate on how quickly they go. Most president ial candidates in the campaigns that ive been talking to want to wait as long as possible. They want to gear up for the big Second Quarter fundraising number he so a lot of the timetable s are often for april or may. But, tamron, when people get in earlier and earlier, that sometimes speeds up the time line. They want to wait as long as possible but just looking at some of the things in the news from the immigration debate here on the president s executive actions there to, of course, these massive protests in the streets from new york and other places in the country as relates to policing, you also have david vitter announcing he wants to block Loretta Lynch for attorney general. Set aside the issues of budget and those ongoing debates there. If these candidates, whether its jeb bush, rand paul, or Hillary Clinton slowly go the direction that i think people see is inevitable and avoid the top thaics now, what does that o them . Tamron, it becomes very hard if people are running for the presidency, hard to avoid the conversations what well see take place is different in 2013 and 2014. The big political stage will be on the president ial side of things in iowa, in south carolina, in New Hampshire where these candidates are getting questions asked about the news of the day and where they want to be able to take the country. A very big debate whether it should be for Immigration Reform or against it. All right, thank you very much, a pleasure having you on. We have more breaking news, this out of pennsylvania. Were moments away from a News Conference on a man killing six members after family. Officials are investigating a possible lead in the search for bradley stone. Police are telling his neighbors in the town of pennsberg, outside of philadelphia, to remain indoors and not open their doors to anyone except law enforcement. Stone went on a shooting spree in three towns early yesterday morning killing his exwife and five of her relatives. Rehema ellis has more. Reporter im about 30 miles outside of philadelphia and were expecting a News Conference within the hour. Some schools today in the area are closed as a precaution as police hunt for a man in connection with what some are calling the deadliest shooting rampage informer this region. Overnight a possible lead in the certificasearch for fugitive gu bradley stone after an attempted robbery in doylestown, pennsylvania, by a man who matches stones description. According to police the victim, who was armed, resisted and fired multiple rounds at the suspect last seen leaving the area on foot. S. W. A. T. Teams surround add home where they believed stone was hiding out. We saw smoke come up. I guess they threw it in the front door. It was crazy. Reporter police say the suspect was not there. As we stand here now we do not know where he is. Reporter Officials Say he killed six family members, his exwife, sister and brotherinlaw, her 14yearold niece, her mother, and her 75 ye 75yearold grandmother. Her 17yearold nephew, the only survivor, is being treated for a head wound at a philadelphia hospital. Its hard to believe. In one day its all gone. Nbc affiliate wcau talked with a neighbor who didnt want to be shown on camera but says she heard gunshots. He looked at me and said shes hurt pretty bad. We have to leave. Reporter Authorities Say his two children were found unharmed. Mr. Stone delivered his two daughters to a neighbor in pennsberg. That is the last time he was seen by anyone. Reporter police say stone, an iraq war veteran, has been known to use a cane or a walker. Its not known if hes using any of those now. Breaking news out of pakistan weve been following all morning long where members of the taliban stormed a school in pakistan killing at least 132 people, mostly children. All nine taliban gunmen have been killed. It has been a chaotic scene at nearby hospitals where victims are being treated. Those victims have been telling horrifying stories including how the attackers set one teacher on fire with gasoline and made the children watch. President obama condemned the attacks and john kerry spoke from london within the past hour. A house of learning turned into a house of unspeakable horror. Prime minister sharif said these are my children. It is my loss. This morning are wherever you live, those are our children. Joining me in studio richard engel. Also joining us by phone at the scene of the attack in peshawar producer waj. Let me start with you. Its a kay otchaotic scene. Last word is all nine of the individuals believed to have stormed the school have been killed. What can you tell us . Reporter thats right. All the attackers have been killed. Some by direct action from special forces who were in pakistan this is one of the most tragic incidents in the 12yearold war on terror. The military has been criticized. It hasnt done enough to slam down against these forces. Safe havens not too far from peshawar. This summer when the political momentum and the military momentum converged. Started an air campaign. They have struck back. You are looking at a situation now where families, army brats really, are in the school targeted. That is the context here, richard, that makes it, if possible, even more terrifying. These are army brats. These are, many of them anyway, the kids of military officers, the very same who are in the fight against the taliban and that is the twisted logic here. The taliban felt you kill our children, were going to find your children and kill them in schools. Were seeing a vicious attack. It will be more personal for the soldiers and officers fighting against the taliban to take the fight even further. That begs the question, what do you see as the logical retaliation then here, richard . I dont think this is over by a stretch of the imagination. Step back. This is happening because of offensive in north waziristan. The taliban and government have been in negotiations. Those negotiations broke down in june and then the Pakistani Military launched a military ground offensive against the taliban. That was stationed out of peshawar and the troops went out and were attacking north waziristan. The taliban kept promising there would be a reprisal. We hadnt seen it. Now the taliban attacking the school of the army unit launching the assault. This siege lasted more than eight hours. We also mentioned that the school had been booby trapped making it difficult for the military to get inside. What is the latest at that school . The ieds which were placed as booby traps are still being dismantled. Weve been through sources here that they have enough rations to last a couple of days. He they were planning to make this a highprofile siege. That was the plan. They were holed up in the auditorium. Essenti eventually went room to room combat and night fell that helped the forces, the military to target these guys. The bottom line is that the entire nation is traumatized. A place that had such bloody attacks the last few years, this stands out, almost three decades ago the country split when it became two parts. Pakistan broke up almost 40 years ago and used this day to attack the military. And we should point out, the young girl who survived an attack by a taliban member and won the Nobel Peace Prize released a statement. I am heartbroken by this senseless and coldblooded act of terror. I, along with millions of people, mourn. We apologize for the tone in the background there. Richard, thank you. New questions over why the suspect in the sydney standoff was not behind bars with such a lengthy criminal record. A live update on that situation. Plus, defiance and devotion. Bill cosbys wife camille speaks out. She says the accusers are not being properly vetted by the media. Also ahead these were private conversations made public at the point of a knife. Sony on damage control. 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Two hostages were killed. Were learning more about them. Katrina dawson was a mother of three and an attorney and 34yearold tori johnson was a cafe manager. I cant say enough about him. It doesnt comprise me. He would have never left his staff there. She was probably the most intelligent person i knew. She had impeccable character. She was kind. Nbcs sara james joins us live now from sydney, australia. Still so many questions from the background of the man responsible to this to also how the hostages were killed. Reporter yes, there are a great number of questions and i think in particular if we start with the gunman, i think many people here are asking why was he on bail . Why was this man who clearly had a violent history and many, many questions, why was he on the street . This was a man arrested and being charged as an accessory in the murder of his exwife, stabbed multiple times and then set on fire. And yet somehow he made bail. Were not the only ones asking these questions. The head of the state was asking the same things. Theyll look further into that. Obviously there will be a full investigation into exactly what happened with the storming of the cafe but clearly from what we do know so far it appears there had been a shot fired, that there was a hostage down, and police felt they had no choice but to storm the cafe. If you come with me, the Police Officers themselves i was here a short time ago when two Police Officers came, tears in their eyes, arms around each other and each one wrote a note leaving a note remembering the victims. They had been on duty the night of the siege. They were working here in the city and say were affect ed, too. Back to you. Up next, hollywood stars attack the media are for publishing those hacked emails from sony. Should the information be kept private since it was stolen . It is our news nation gut check. Why a republican senator is threatening to block loretta lyn lynchs nomination to become attorney jgeneral. 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Sony pictures is ramping up damage control after the cyber attack. The can company held a large town hall meeting with employees yesterday where top executives reportedly apologized for the toll the ordeal has taken on the studio and employees. The companys chairman and ceo vowed the Cyber Attacks will not take sewn y down. Sony down. They are calling a Christmas Gift, a larger dump of private data. Stars associated with the studio are raising concerns. What some of the stars at the center of the scandal are saying today. Look at this. Reporter its impossible for seth rogan and james franco to do an interview without talking about the Sony Pictures hack. Look at this stolen information. Reporter on the howard stern show they were upset private information has become public. Theyre not doing anything illegal, trying to fool you as the consumer. Theyre having private correspondent with one another. Read it and pick it apart and dissect it. Reporter rogan and franco have recent salaries and negati negatives. Amy pasqual reportedly apologized again for controversial emails unveiled during the attack. Whats the Economic Impact of replacing her or keeping other in the seat . Reporter the man behind the newsroom is criticizing Media Outlets publishing information from the hack. In the New York Times oped aaron sorkin writes as demented and criminal as it is. Illegally leaked information, information stolen by someone else and then leaked to them. That was joe fryer report in. I want to bring in Senior Editor eric garner. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Lets look at both sides here. Some of the big names are saying this information was stolen and this all amounts to gossip. The stars made their deals for lots of money. They didnt expect anyone to be reading it. Now that its out there, however, the question whether the media should be publishing this is a different question and raises the issue of whats in the public concern and whether its newsworthy. Let me play what sorkin said on the today show with savannah guthrie. Had lets play it. Im so much less interested in a tasteless joke than i am in a massive invasion of privacy and thats what happened here. A few weeks ago the cloud was hacked into and naked photographs of women we know, famous women, were made available to the press. I thought we did a good job of preemptively telling the press if you publish these things youre being sleazy. This is the same situation only worse by magnitude. Is that a fair comparison . Edward snowden took documents from the government and sent it to reporters who published the stuff. The government calls that she