Transcripts For MSNBCW PoliticsNation 20200509 : vimarsana.c

Transcripts For MSNBCW PoliticsNation 20200509

Disproportionate black death. Yet again we were reminded this week that even as covid19 has been cast as an equalizer, supposedly a disease that does not discriminate in who it harms, the data bears out that black americans have born the brunt of this pandemic in both health and wealth. But also outside of these metrics, theres the politics of the pandemic. Weve seen disturbing images emerge, like armed white protesters storming statehouses and screaming on sent ibscenitiw enforcement officers, all because they want their states reopened. In many cases, these reopenings, which are happening in states at this very moment endanger many black and brown people, many of whom have been on the less forgiving end of the Police Response to these shutdowns. Just like it took 74 days 74 days from the moment an unarmed black man, was shot and killed, aacco according to his family, while jogging in georgia. According to the police, the report said this they believed he was a burglar that they had seen before and they shot him in selfdefense after a tussle. Data row least this week from march 16th through may 5th shows the department issued 374 summons for social distancing violations in the five burrows. 81 of the citations were given to black or hispanic new yorkers. And this is in a city that has more whites than any other race. And so today we ask will social distancing enforcement become the new stop and frisk . Joining me now is democratic congressman Hakeem Jeffries of brooklyn, new york. He is the chairman of the House Democratic caucus and member of the esteemed congressional black caucus. Congressman, you and i both fought stop and frisk given the bias and the race involved. This morning i came out and joined a lot of others that have raised the data that ive just shown that were looking at the reactions of the police to overwhelmingly target it seems blacks during this pandemic. I talked to the police commisher who says he promises to work with the public advocate and get on it but the data speaks for itself. This is outrageous to me. Youre absolutely correct, rev. The data speaks for itself. Its unacceptable, unconscionable, unamerican in a country that prides itself on equal protection under the law that we would have a situation where over 80 of the summonses issued with respect to social distances are with the in brooklyn, 45 black and brown people alone. Many people saw the images of sun bathers, largely not black or brown violating the social distancing protocols. And instead of being summonsed, instead of being chastised, they were being handed masks. So this is an extraordinary level of differential enforcement that were seeing. There should be one standard. Thats not happening right now. While we are also seeing the data show blacks and latinos are the ones found more positive than others and are the ones that are dying more than others with the pandemic, now you put salt in the wound. In the middle of this we have the came in brunswick, georgia where the jogger was killed where they thought he was someone they saw breaking into homes. Last week i had his mother on the show and his lawyer. This is even before we had the videos because the story just did not sound right to a lot of us in the civil rights community. So theres been a will the of local activists and local chapters of the naacp and all that have been on this for a while. Last night we had a National Virtual rally where his father was on along with the lawyers and one of your Congressional Colleagues said maybe there needs to be a congressional inquiry in why it took two years im sorry, two months to get to an arrest. Its probable cause, youre one of the best lawyers ive known. Its probable cause. You have an unarmed dead man, you have two people, one with a magnum, another with a rifle standing over him and they have a story. The probable cause is to make the arrest and they had this tape that went public this week. Somebody had to have this tape for the last two months. There should be an inquiry as to what is going on in brunswick, georgia. Thats absolutely correct. I certainly appreciate your continued advocacy, rev, and youve been on the front line dealing in which the communities of color have been adversely impacted in an unjust criminal system for decades. Even in the midst of a pandemic you can have a situation where a young africanamerican man who is jogging, ahmaud, is gunned down in cold blood and nothing happens. As a result of the fact that this tab was was subsequently release, a tape theyve probably seen, its put it in the leet. A Public Inquiry is justified so we can explore how we can be better in america. There are discussions going on in congress about budget cuts. Youve complained that every time they talk about cutting the budget, it seems they want to cut the budget from those programs and those citizens and the safety net that need it the most. Were thankful for the leadership with explosion pelosi and the democratic caucus, were not going to bear the brunt on the Public Health side and one way to prevent that is to provide the resources to our states, towns, cities and our localities which employ our first responders, our teachers, our doctors, our nurses, our firefighters, our ems workers and our transit employees who have been compelled to sacrifice while everyone else is being asked appropriately to socially distance themselves. We cannot abandon them, House Democrats will not abandon them and were going to make sure that the federal government does the right thing. New york representative Hakeem Jeffries, thank you for being with us. Joining me is gary peters, the Ranking Member of the Senate Homeland security committee. Senator, thank you for being with us. Great to you with you, reverend sharpton. In your state weve seen some real unrest. Weve seen people go to the state capital in lancing, and literally go into the capitol on the grounds, go into the halls of the capitol armed and some with swastikas and some with confederate flags, in 2020. Were not talking about 1920. How as a u. S. Senator to that state do you respond to this in the middle of a pandemic . If people say i want to go back to open the stores and that kind of thing but to do it armed and using swastikas and confederate flags. Theres no question those images are incredibly disturbing. And we saw the pictures of armed folks up in the gallery of the state legislature looking down at legislators. Thats simply unacceptable. Ill just say that that doesnt speak to who we are here in michigan. Its a relatively small group. We need to call it out and say that that type of behavior is certainly unacceptable. But for the most part, that is something very different than the average michigander. We all would like to get back to a new normal. We all are anxious to reopen businesses, but we also understand you have to do it safely. We have to make sure were protecting workers that work at those businesses and customers who patronize the businesses. And opening isnt enough if the public doesnt feel theyre securely and can be as safe as possible doing a pandemic. Thats who we are, not some of those very disturbing images we seen on tv. We were all appalled by that. Are you disturbed that the president said the governor out to sit with some of the people protesting and work something out and not denounce these swastikas and these confederate flags . Well, you can have a discussion, but you certainly cant allow those kinds of demonstrations with swastikas and confederate flags. Thats simply unacceptable. Certainly the governor has reached out to groups, she continues to do that, but shes weighing the advice of epidemiologists and experts to make sure we can open the economy in a safe way, a way that protects lives but also understands that we have to balance an economy and get an economy moving. The governor has never shied away from talking to folks. She always reaches out. But to show up and to wave a swastika is simply unacceptable and we all have to condemn that type of show of hatred and division. One of the things youve raised that this pandemic has exposed is the need to deal with health care enrollment. Explain your concern and explain what is at risk if the senate makes certain moves in terms of trying to roll back some of the Health Insurance enrollment. Well, you would think that folks would fully appreciate the need for everybody to have access to Quality Affordable Health Care at a time were in the middle of a pandemic that is taking tens of thousands of lives all across our country. Under the faffordable care act, which provides that coverage, there is an open enrollment once a year but i am advocating we have open enrollment now but the Trump Administration has said no. If people come down with covid19 and we know the disproportionate impact on communities of color, we still need to have more people sign up to have access to that health care and now is the time to do that, to make sure that were helping people in a time of need that if they have to go to the hospital, they know that those costs are going to be covered. They should not have to worry about the hospital bill. They should be focused on getting healthy and getting through the covid19 pandemic. Michigan senator gary peters, thank you for being with us. Joining me is Michelle Goldberg and susan del percio. Were looking at unemployment has risen just in a short period of time from 4. 4 to 14. 7. Were at 14. 7 . Were escalating weve not seen anything like this since the depression. And the president says he is not at fault. How do you respond to that . Well, look, obviously the president is not totally at fault for the pandemic, but you dont see unemployment on this scale in a lot of countries in europe where the governments have taken measures to continue paying people, basically making sure that people stay in their jobs and are being paid through your jobs on a kind of furlough until its safe to go back to work. Theres a lot of things you can say about the president s response, the reason why the United States is, you know, far and away right now the country with the most deaths from this pandemic. Theres been a kind of total collapse in the Public Health response in washington which is why it continues to spread and why alone among most countries in the world we have states that are opening up even as their numbers of covid infections go up instead of down. And the other piece is youre seeing this unwillingness to deal with the economic pain that the incompetent response has exacerbated. So after years of complete disregard for budget deficits when the subject was tax cuts for the richest americans, you suddenly see now the growing anxiety about all of this deficit spending and all of this, you know, kind of growing renewed concern with the national debt, a sense that Unemployment Benefits are too generous and might keep people from going back to work, as if there were plentiful jobs for people, even if they were safe enough and willing to go back to work. So were just seeing a perfect storm of president ial incompetence and kind of conservative economic dogma at a time when the country despera desperately needs stimulus. The president was informed in january the dangers of the pandemic. He basically poopooed it. If he had responded, do you think wed be facing the same issues . We know how the president responded to a Health Crisis. The reason he waited until early march is because thats when the stock market tanked. Thats when he saw the Economic Impact that this virus could have, and thats what caused him into action. Both the Health Care Crisis and the economic crisis, though, President Trump tries to treat them as a political problem. Now, if he treated the pric unemployment numbers that way, how is he going to handle an economic crisis . Im a republican and actually a real republican id like to say and i believed in economic restraint. The last thing this administration has done is shown any of that. And now they want to use a couple of buzz words just for political purposes. Michelle, weve seen this week that the Justice Department has now said that they want to drop the charges against michael flynn, and the president has come out and the president who said he lied to Vice President pence said he was targeted, set up and he did not rule out rehiring him. Weve also seen overnight former president obama having said that this threatens the very nature of law when you have someone that pled guilty, flynn pled guilty twices are we, went in c pled guilty and he can withdraw him saying i lied to the fbi, throw the case out. Your response in. We saw a while the Justice Department getting involved really improperly in the sentencing of roger stone and trying to recommend after the prosecutors in the case recommended one sentence, you saw interference from the top levels of the Justice Department. Now with the country, for obvious reasons, focused on other things, in a way barr is even more shameless and even more willing to basically try to cut the legs out of the Mueller Investigation and really delegitimize it. I sort of see this as a back door pardon, right . Instead of kind of putting the president in a position where he was going to issue this pardon and make a lot of headlines, theyre just trying to make these cases go away. And with michael flynn, part of the way that theyre making it go away is to say that the predicate for the investigation wasnt there, right, that the investigation itself was somehow installed. And that has been the purpose of all of this kind of investigating the investigators that barr has been doing since he took this job. And so just as were seeing our economy unravel, our Public Health unravel, were seeing the further unraveling of the rule of law in this country. I mean, this is just the worst Case Scenario for what the Trump Administration was going to be like. I mean, i think a lot of us were terrified the day that donald trump was elected. I dont think any of us, no matter how hysterical we were could have imagined that it would reach this point. The rule of law, susan, when we look at what former president obama said michelle has also repeated it. I mean, what are we saying now that are we now saying that you can plead guilty and then later say, no, even though i told you that i did it, i didnt do it because somebody else now is the prosecutor and i can rearrange what i did. What happens to the standard of law . Well, its basically deteriorated under donald trump. Hes put an attorney general in that will bend to his will. Our democracy, our judicial system, it may not have crumbled but its certainly showing a lot of cracks, rev. Michelle goldberg and susan del percio, thank you both for being with me. 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