Politicsnation. Tonights lead, law and order. But for who . Right now, President Biden is flexing the legal powers of his office to address the countrys deepening problems. And an exclusive interview with nbc news, the president talked about the difficult decision to send 1500 troops to the border to help is a refugee crisis. He also spoke about the possibility that he might invoke his 14th Amendment Authority to raise the debt limit. If he cannot convince some of the gop to back off threats to push the country, and to an economic crisis. Heres the deal. I think that first of all, this is not your fathers republican party. This is a different group. And i think that we have to make it clear to the American People that i am prepared to negotiate in detail with her budget. In the meantime, here in New York City, there is outrage after an alleged act of vigilante justice. A Young Black Mans life is snuffed out on the subway. Prompting tough questions about who has the right to take the law into their own hands. All of that ahead, plus a look at the complicated legacy behind a historic transition in the uk. As charles is crowned king. We start with politics. Joining me now, congresswoman, yvette clarke. Democrat of new york. Congresswoman, thank you for joining us. I want to start with President Bidens interview last night with msnbc. As i mentioned at the top, he discussed his decision to send hundreds of troops to the southern border an expectation of an influx of migrants. And a possibility that he might invoke his 14th Amendment Authority to raise the debt limit and with the deadline to do so, rapidly approaching. He also spoke to Voter Concerns about his age. Take a listen. I have acquired a hell of a lot of wisdom. And now i am more experienced than anyone who is ever run for office. And i think i have proven myself to be honorable as well as also effective. Congresswoman, would that be enough to reassure voters ahead of 2024 . Reverend sharpton. First of all, it is great to be back with you once again. Let me say that it is not just what joe biden said last night. The proof is in the pudding. He has done a remarkable under the circumstances. I think that we have been given such a soft landing after the horrible outbreak of covid19, the horrible way in which we had to live our lives during the shutdown of our economy. The lack of real concern for the American People in getting vaccines out, and making sure that we can navigate our way out of the pandemic. Joe biden, President Joe Biden has gone on to give our economy a soft landing, we are seeing huge employment statistics, we are seeing the deployment of an infrastructure bill, he has lowered the cost of prescription drugs, and so i think that oftentimes it is when we are doing well that we take things for granted. Yes indeed, President Biden has said that she feels up to the task. I can tell you that hes been doing an extraordinary job. He has kept his head down, he has worked with his team, and they have really been, weve been fortunate in the way in which they have handled navigating us out of the pandemic, into what we are poised to do in terms of advancement, and in our society. Staying on capitol hill. We are less than one month away from the deadline to raise the ceiling. Many economists warn a default would be financially catastrophic. But House Republicans have tried raising the ceiling to deep federal spending cuts. Nbc news is reporting how stomach routes are trying to bring it clean bipartisan Debt Ceiling Bill to the floor, without the support of speaker kevin mccarthy. Do you see that happening, congresswoman . My hope is that it will. We have to have the grownups in the room in the chamber of the house of representatives. We must raise the debt ceiling. We couldnt go into negotiations, and conversations about the federal budget. Which i believe the Biden Administration has been managing masterfully when you look at the way that they have been working at a deficit reduction. But beyond that, when we look at what is being proposed by republicans, it would be a major and dramatic setback to our economy, it is really time for the grownups to get into the room. There are those who are in the Republican Caucus that really do not mean well for the American People. They want to see these draconian cuts to the average every day american. However they want to be able to create tax cut benefits, for the wealthiest in the United States and contrast to their friends. So the cut is surgical. They go right to the heart of those who are struggling the most in our society, but the benefit and the dividend is to those who are the wealthiest. Weve got to get to a point where we are working together, in the best interest of the American People and it is very clear that the Speaker Mccarthy has a conference that is not interested, or that is being ruled by individuals who are not interested in taking care of the American People. Covid19 asylum restrictions put in place by the trump administration, known as title 42, comes to an end on thursday. In preparation, the Biden Administration has deployed 1500 active duty troops in texas. In texas, the Homeland Security secretary, alejandro mayorkas, who toured the region this week has called on congress for additional federal resources for border officials to deal with asylum requests. Your cochair of the congressional haiti caucus and the administration said last week that it will continue deportations of haitian migrants illegally entering the country. As you know, i went to the border when they were but it will maintain, according to what is said, a humanitarian Parole Program for providing legal Migration Pathways for patients after the thursday deadline. Are you satisfied with that policy choice, congresswoman . I am not satisfied at all, reverend sharpton. I think that President Biden and Secretary Mayorkas are trying to make the best out of the really bad situation. A no win situation. Their hands are tied to a large extent by the fact that we have a broken immigration system. And it is overdue for a reform and overhaul. At the same time, we will be reverting back to title eight Immigration Policy which does provide for individuals to present themselves for asylum. That then moves the process into an immigration court, so that individuals could state their case. I think that what Secretary Mayorkas has prepared for the cbp one app that enables people to actually apply for asylum seek a pathway to the United States via an app, it is an audible endeavor. Its not where it needs to be. Im hearing about a lot of technical difficulties that individuals are having, accessing the getting it up and running will be an imperative. And at the same time, it is critical that we build the pressure for comprehensive immigration reform. You know, people are coming to the u. S. Because we are their homes of origin, they have become inhospitable. And inhumane and terms of their safety, their security, and the promise for the future for them in their families. They are voting with their feet, and they are coming to the United States. The greatest nation in the world. Seeking opportunities many immigrant groups have done throughout our history. So it is up to us to really get things right. That is up to us to work with the Biden Administration to make sure that Human Dignity first and foremost is revered, and is a part of how we will encounter these individuals who will be seeking asylum in our country. Before i let you go, i read into Washington Post this week about your bill mandating disclosure of content generated by Artificial Intelligence in political ads. And understand that you are compelled to write the bill and in response to a Republican National committee ad attacking President Bidens reelection announced but filled with false images that would generate entirely by a. I. But particularly, the particular added it is claimer that many viewers know the content was a. I. Generated. But your concern is that others will not . Why is that a concern. Im out of time but i want you to address that briefly. Quickly, the Real Political Ads Act will make sure that there is a disclaimer for every political ad that are people view in the media. It is critical. There are those who just do not have the moral standing and will try to deceive the American People. They could be domestic, or it could be nationstates looking to disrupt our elections. We are moving into a high election season. And it is critical that are controls are applied equally across all media platforms. Right now, broadcast and print have to make sure that their disclaimers alongside their advertising, likewise that should be the case with a generated video that our people are consuming. Its important for the stability of our society and for our national security. All right. Thank you congresswoman. Yvette clarke from brooklyn, we go way back to our younger days. Great to be with you. Now to the story of the death of jordan neely. Earlier this week i put out a statement as head of the network condemning his killing and the reaction to it. On monday according to video and multiple eyewitness statements, he was restrained by three New York Subway passengers during eight reported Mental Health episode. Placed in a chokehold by one of them and later died in the hospital, it was reported. The Chief Medical Examiner ruled his death a homicide. Caused by the chokehold applied to his neck. Joining me now, the attorneys for jordan nearly as family, dante mills and lyndon edwards. Two very promising attorneys here in new york, i could say. Attorney mills, jordans death is another tragedy that struck the family. According to angie dot com, his mother was nearly choked to death in 2007, her boyfriend was convicted of crimes, she was later found stuffed into a suitcase on a highway. And new york poll reports that this was a tragic incident according to some he went into a deep depression, according to Family Members. But you have gotten to know their family. How do you describe him from what youve heard from them, and what do they say about his talents as a street performer, and a Mental Health challenge that he was facing . One of the things that struck me is that he impersonated michael jackson, who i knew well. I went to his funeral. And the family said that he was dealing with trauma, none of which the three guys, and the guy who choked him knew. I want to thank you for addressing this issue and giving us the opportunity to speak about who he was. The first thing i want to say is that he was loved. He was loved. He had family that loved him, that supported him, and he had people in his life there for them who provided a safe space. Unfortunately because of the incident stemming from his mothers death he had demons. And we all know people who are on the brink of going through something major, a catastrophe, where they just cant seem to get everything back together, that is where he was. But he had a life that he was living, and reaching for. A part of that was entertaining, as you mentioned, he really enjoyed michael jackson. He emulated him and his style, his dress, he had a phenomenal voice, he was a phenomenal dancer. He enjoyed making people happy. Part of it was that he wasnt happy with himself because of where he wasnt how he believed he grieved his mothers death and the fact that he could not help his mother because he was 14 years old at the time, and he lived with his mother. He was in the house when she was killed. He went to go to school the next day, he went to knock on the door to tell her goodbye and her boyfriend said dont come in here. Shes busy, she sleeping. So he went to school, and when he came home from school he found out that she was killed that night prior, and that he dumped her body during the day while he was in school. So he had to live with the fact that he left his mother dead in their home. That is a lot to live with. He had troubles with that. But throughout his life, he was determined to make other people happy. And that is what he did, that is why he, songwriters why he danced, that is why he stayed in new york. That is why he was not 42nd street, entertaining people and making them smile because he had a hard time smiling, a lot of the time. That is who jordan was, and that is what everyone should know. There was growing calls for justice including from those of us after this man, now identified as 24 year old daniel penny, placed jordan in a chokehold that allegedly killed him. Protesters are demanding that charges be filed. I want to warn my audience the next video is disturbing. Next video is disturbing in a Statement Given to nbc news, pennies attorneys say he is a College Student and a marine veteran, as they also say, quote, daniels never intended to harm mr. Nearly and not could not have foreseen his untimely death, unquote. We and his attorneys to come on this show and to make their case and ive made clear, in my capacity, International Action network that its sufficient evidence in this case to, at the very least, consider criminal charges against mr. Penny and the two holding down jordan. What do you make of daniel penny being able to walk free of the incident that night . It reminded me of george zimmerman, a case i fought with trayvon martin. That guy walked out that night and why did it take four days for his name to be released . After all, jordan neelys name and criminal history was made public hours after the incident and all we knew about the man that allegedly killed him is that he did military service. Reverend al, Daniel Pennies regret is coming too late. When he was there on the ground choking jordan neely for what we already know is approximately 15 minutes, 15 minutes choking him, you know, weve done some research and we found out that 35 to 45 seconds in a hold like that makes someone unconscious. 15 minutes is 20 times the amount of time that it would take to render someone unconscious. Thats how long daniel penny held jordan neely in a hold like that. And the police, who showed up, had access to daniel penny right there, the killer, right on the spot. Had access to every witness they needed to question. This is an open and shut case. Its a ground ball. There is no need to extend an investigation, so to speak, to determine that this man committed a killing. It shouldve been arrested on the spot. I dont want to inject race into it immediately, but im telling you right now, if daniel penny were black and he choked out somebody on the platform, or on a train, you have to wonder whether or not he wouldve been arrested whether he would have been detained up until this time, there wouldve been no question, no need for that man to be walking around. I mean, come on, this is ridiculous. The family has had to deal with this, wrestle with this, day, after day, after day. And nothing has been done about it. While the sun, nephew, and others, are being cast as a criminal, all this criminal rhetoric, done none of which the assailant or the alleged assailant knew any of this. Record was on his back. Thats the important thing. Even to say who he was as a person and what his history is, it had nothing to do with this incident. So, what we are asking is why did penny get the benefit of the doubt . We know because the coroner ruled it a homicide, we know, for a fact, that he killed jordan neely. If there is a defense to it, charge him and let him bring that defense. Why does he get the benefit of the doubt in this situation, when you say we have a video of you choking someone to death . What we are going to do is allow you to go home, and then we are going to ask around and investigate, and then we will decide, then we will get back to you a little bit later. As opposed to saying, we know you do this, you are going to be held responsible for it, and if you say you have a reason to do it, tell it to the judge. Attorney mills, nbc news reports that the plan, for now, is for the Manhattan District Attorneys Office to present the case to a grand jury, and thats how they will decide if any charges will be made. According to two sources familiar with the matter, the timing of this is unclear, as the investigation is ongoing. Meanwhile, penny has hired manhattan d. A. Braggs republican challenger, thomas kenneth, who ran against each other two years ago. The incident is drawing comparisons to two familiar cases that theyre trying to use. One is the bodega owner who stabbed an assailant in selfdefense last year and had a murder case against him dropped. And the other case of bernard gets, one i was involved in in the 80s, who shot for Young Black Man on the subway and was eventually acquitted of all, but one, gun charge. He claimed selfdefense and then i cant help but also bring another case out that was involved in lately, erik gardner case, the chokehold case, where we had now a state law against police having chokeholds, not civilians. Are these cases equivalent and bring back memories to you of things, as lawyers, both of your s