And our gotcha, on Donald Trumps ridiculous comment about how he stays fit. From Rockefeller Center in new york, this is politics nation with al sharpton. Good morning. Im al sharpton. Were just two days away from the wisconsin primary. Potentially, the first real setback for donald trump. Polls show him ten points behind ted cruz in the whole state of wisconsin. And the voting will come after one of trumps worst weeks. His Campaign Manager was charged with battery. Stemming from an incident with a reporter. Wisconsin Governor Scott walker endorsed ted cruz. An interview with a popular local radio host turned combative. Mr. Trump, before you called into my show, did you know that im a nevertrump guy . That i didnt know. Okay. Because i thought it was interesting, and people were wondering, does donald trump know what Charlie Sykes has said about him in the past . No. And then, there was the interview with msnbcs chris matthews. Trumps gaffe on abortion caused anger on both the right, and left. While his comments about Nuclear Weapons sparked fresh scrutiny of his Foreign Policy agenda. Do you believe in punishment for abortion . Yes or no as a principle . The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. For the woman . Yeah, there has to be some form . You might use it in europe . No, i dont think so ive never i am not taking cards off the table. The question for trump 48 hours ahead of wisconsin, will it be a bump on the road to the nomination, or the beginning of the end . Joining me now is dr. Ben carson, former president ial candidate, and former trump rival, who has since endorsed him for president. Thanks for being here, dr. Carson. Always a pleasure to be with you. Wisconsin is only a couple of days off. Is that the last chance for the establishment to stop donald trump . No. Because, i think anything can happen, you know, during the political season. So, all kinds of disasters can happen. All kinds of wonderful things can happen. And as youve noticed, with each one of these contests, all the pundits say, oh, well this is the big one. This will determine. And then they say that with the next one, too. I think they just want to keep the drama going. What if donald trump comes in to the Republican Convention with the most delegates, but not enough to clinch the nomination, the number that he needs . Will you, ben carson, dr. Ben carson, will you support whomever is put forward as the nominee . Lets say what if paul ryan, who wasnt even among those running this year, is selected at a brokered convention. Would you support him or anyone that the convention might select . I would certainly hope that that doesnt happen. Because if that does happen, the party will be so fractured that it will guarantee that the democrats will win. And im hoping that cooler heads will prevail. But obviously whoever the nominee is should be supported. And you will support whoever that nominee would be . I would support the nominee, as opposed to, you know, whoever was running on the other side, unless they come up with somebody different than the two that we see now. Let me ask you this. A lot of people raised the question, how can you support donald trump, when he has saii some things about you that are very, very troublesome to some of your supporters. Let me give you an example of some of the things he said about you, dr. Carson. Carson is lower energy than bush i mean, seventh day adventists i dont know about. I just dont know about. But it moves this way. It moves this way. It moves that way. Were going to put somebody in office who considers himself to have pathological disease. Now, putting aside the personal stuff, is that the kind of person that has the temperament to be commander in chief . I think probably as much so as anybody else. But recognize that hes he knows how to play to an audience. He has a long history of showmanship. And thats what he was doing. And he has admitted that thats the case. Is that the way that i would conduct myself . Absolutely not. But you know, were all different. And what you have to ask yourself is, did it work . Did the things that he that he did work . They did. I dont know if thats saying something about him or is that saying something about us as a society . You know youre dr. Ben carson. You have a lot of respect by a lot of people that may even disagree with your views, your positions, even your candidacy for president this year. I remember when you came to the National ActionNetwork Convention you were respected. But and that was among minorities, a lot of hour conventioneers are minorities. Donald trump has said some very troubling things about minorities. Let me give you an example. Theyre verying drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Theyre rapists. Total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States. I dont know anything about david duke. I dont know what group youre talking about. You wouldnt want me to condemn a group that i know nothing about. Id have to look. Arent those kind of statement statements a disqualifier for you endorsing donald trump . Not at all. Because, hes explained himself on all of those things. Now if you just take them by themselves without his explanation, then they seem, you know, like they would condemn him. But that seems to be a problem. We like to take things in isolation without looking at the totality. Well what do you think is the totality that he offers people of color, mexicans, muslims . What are the policies that if we were to say those statements were just showmanship, what are the policies that make you say that you can overlook those statements . I dont overlook them. But i do take them all in to consideration. I look at a persons life. You know, donald trump has hired thousands of people. Has a very large network. Ive met a lot of people. Its very hard to find any of his employees have anything bad to say about him. Or his former employees. That says a lot about a person. When he moved down to palm beach, you know, the private clubs, were largely excluding jews and blacks. He came a warrior, and he fought for their inclusion. You know, these are sorries that you dont really hear about very often. I think and then, one of the things that impresses me the most is, you look at his children. His children are very well mannered, as respectful, not spoiled like you see so often children who are raised in families of wealth. That says a lot about a person. But what are his policies, though . Among those minority groups that he has said these statements that you say we shouldnt just judge him by the statements. What are the policies . We may have fought for people to be included as members of his golf clubs, but what are his policies that impressed you in the areas that would make you discount what he said that are frankly offensive statements to many minorities . His policies are treating everybody the same. Hes coming very rapidly to understand that that the downtrodden in our society, the minorities are largely having a difficult time because of education, lack of education, and lack of educational opportunities. And you know, hes going to be advocating things like voucher programs which will allow School Choice, which is critical particularly in our inner cities. I know in new york city, you know, the mayor there doesnt like the idea of School Choice, but the fact of the matter is it makes the bigges difference and it doesnt matter what your background is, if you get a good education you write your own ticket and you become part of the strength and fabric of this country. This is something that youre going to see him advocating very strongly. All right. Let me ask this. Youve said that president obama was raised white. And that he you really questioned whether he understand the black experience of what would make you Say Something like that . First of all, what i said, and what many people in the media said i said are two completely different things. I said that the experience that he had being raised is not the typical black experience. He was raised by white grandparents in an affluent area of hawaii, spent his formative years in indonesia, raised by a white mother there. Those are not typical black experiences. No one can prove to me that thats a typical black experience. The rest of it was stuff that you people in the media added and said, carson said this and carson said that. You know, thats what you wish that i had said. But i didnt say that. Well thats why im asking you. So youre not saying that he did understand the black experience, because you could be raised by whites and it could even show you even more of the racial imbalance, thats very possible . Of course. All right. Of course thats true. And i also then say that being raised white is a bad thing. All the things that people threw on and tried to say that i said i didnt say those things. And its so typical, and i wish there would be more honesty and i appreciate you clarifying that. All right. Thank you, dr. Ben carson. Thank you for your time this morning. Always a pleasure. Thank you so much. Coming up, digging into the democratic contest with a clinton campaigns National Political director. And later, the fight against wisconsins controversial voter i. D. Law. In place for the first time this week. Isnt it time to let the real you shine through . Introducing otezla, apremilast. Otezla is not an injection, or a cream. Its a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. 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In recent days, the candidates have sparred on several fronts. Even Donald Trumps comments on abortion led to a skirmish between the democrats. Any stupid, absurd remark made by donald trump becomes the story of the week. Maybe, just maybe, we might want to have a serious discussion about the serious issues facing america. Senator sanders agreed that Donald Trumps comments were shameful. But then he said they were a distraction from, and i quote, a serious discussion about the serious issues facing america. To me this is a serious issue. Sanders responded, saying, clinton took his comments out of context. Joining me now is amanda renteria, National Political director for hillary for america. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Did you ever ive got to ask this first, do you ever feel that at this date it would still be this tense, and this close in a primary fight . I got to say, i think theres a lot of things were surprised about in this election cycle, given whats happened on the other side. But, at the end of the day, we knew that every president ial is tough and youve got to earn every sing the vote. And so, the way the democratic process works, and the delegate counts work is going to be awhile. And so were going to keep working through it. All right. According to polls right now, sanders is slightly ahead in wisconsin. How do you feel about your candidate . I think my candidate is doing a fantastic job and were incredibly excited about what we have going forward. Wisconsin is going to be tough, though. And we know that. When you look at the demographics of wisconsin, its not quite where the Democratic Party is as Democratic Party as a whole and weve always from the very beginning tried to build a coalition that was really reflective of america, reflective of a Democratic Party. Wisconsin a little bit tougher. But were going to try and win every single vote we can. And shes there campaigning and were going to keep pushing until the very last vote is cast. Now, all right wisconsin you say is going to be tough. New york is the next one. Yeah. Are you confident that your candidate will win big in new york . We feel fantastic here. I mean, this is home. Our headquarters, people are back, shes campaigning again. And right here in her home state, and i got to tell you, theres just an Incredible Energy as weve kicked it off, a lot more here, shes been here, the president has been here, chelsea has been here. And really kind of coming back to her roots, and all the different communities. And so its been good to go through the history of what shes done for the state of new york. This week senator sanders told my colleague Rachel Maddow that theyre working on getting some of the superdelegates to come his way. Watch this. What i do believe is that there are a lot of republican a lot of superdelegates, who have signed on to Hillary Clinton a long, long time ago. And then you have other superdelegates who are in states where we have won by 20, 30, 40 points. And the people in those states are saying, you know what . We voted for Bernie Sanders by 30 or 40 points. You got to support him at the convention. Are you worried about some of the superdelegates changing their allegiance to sanders if he builds momentum . I think this contest at the very beginning has been about pledge delegates. And i think what youre going to see is a coalition around pledge delegates. And weve known that thats always been the case. No convention has ever been overturned by superdelegates and we dont expect that to happen now. What we expect is to continue to win the pledge delegates. Were up by 200. Were feeling pretty good about that and were up by 2. 5 million votes over sanders. Well, i think that ive got to raise this question, if she doesnt succeed in wisconsin, is new york and california, pennsylvania, mustwin . I think when you look at the delegate map you can still win without winning those contests. But we want to win big in these states. And so were going to work really hard, and truthfully, it feels really good here on the ground. So i feel incredibly confident about what the calendar looks like, what the map looks like, especially in states where weve done the hard work to build the coalitions you need. Not simply for the not simply for the primary but really going forward. Amanda renteria, thank you for your time. We should note politicians nation reached out to the bernie Sanders Campaign for todays show, it didnt work out. But we look forward to having them on in the future. Ahead, Donald Trumps comments on abortion raise the question, just what does he believe . Oneonone with a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter who wrote the book on trump. 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