Transcripts For MSNBCW Richard Engel On Assignment 20190415

Plus, we go to africa to meet a real life miracle worker. Is there hope for congo . There is hope. Rome, the eternal city. Seat of the most powerful religious figure in the world. Pope francis is the 266th pontiff and he leads the churchs 1. 2 billion followers. But hes a new kind of pope, a humble latin american jesuit more devoted to the poor than the royal pomp and circumstance that comes with the thrown of st. Peter. Thats convinced some powerful critics that the holy father is a left wing liberal. And theyre coming for him. Led by, of all people, an american who loves upsetting the established order. The administrative apparatus of the church has to be changed. They even admitted they need help, right . I would love, and im rallying people, you know, lay people today in the United States. Why is steve bannon now taking the vaticansy . Because nobody else has stepped up to do it. President trumps former Campaign Chairman steve bannon is on a new crew skr crew said. Are you feeling confident you can also impact change here . Absolutely. No doubt. His goal is to save the Catholic Church from the pope, who he says is failing to deal with the biggest crisis facing the church today. My problem with the pope today is about this crisis on pedophilia, that they are not treating this as a crisis. Another dark chapter. The vatican says pope francis accepted a resignation. Now the first u. S. Cardinal suspended by the vatican. The Catholic Church has been accused of covering up for priests who have molested mostly young boys in a scandal which is engulfing franciss papalcy. Even broke his silence to discuss the silence, implying the current pope doesnt have it fully under control. Steve bannon says francis needs to do more or risk lawsuits that will bankrupt the vatican. I have worked at golden sacks and a lot of bankruptcies, okay . The Catholic Church is heading to a financial crisis that will lead to a bankruptcy. Once thats gone, we have blown through two millennia of real estate and savings. It could actually bring down not the theology, not the teaching, not the community, but the physical and financial apparatus of this church. But pope francis has pledged zero tolerance for sex offenders in the church. He has acted. He has listened to victims and survivors. Im actually a survivor of sexual abuse myself. So i look to his leadership with some hope. John teaches theology at georgetown university. He says the popes critics are using the sex abuse crisis as cover. They weaponize the sexual abuse crisis to try and undermine his authority, his leadership and the affection people have for him as pope. While the vatican is a new battleground for bannon, he says its all part of gods plan, the same one that helped President Trump into the white house. Divine province allowed us to win 2016, to draw the inside straight that we had to draw in the midwest. Do you really believe that . That trump was put in the white house because of di divine intervention. He an imperfect instrument, but hes an instrument. There are crazy people and there are religious crazy people. Jim martin runs american magazine, a catholic journal based in new york city. They think they have god on their sides. He says the opposition to the pope is part of a wave of authoritarian nationalist pop list movements rising around the world. Someone who is reaching out to them, thats going to upset you more specifically, they dont like lgbt people, people of color, they dont seem to like the poor very much even though yes ses spent time with them in the gos sell. It has a lot of money. It has sort of media origins. And its worldwide now. Its kind of shocking. Whats the connection between the alt right, the breitbarts, the Steve Bannons . Its the same tactics, if not the same people. These kind of relentless campaigns against people that just dont let up. Father martin is often on the receiving end of those attacks, but says he is not the real target. People feel that they cant attack pope francis. They attack me instead. After 49 party goers were massacred at a gay nightclub in orlando, father martin wrote a book calling for the church to Start Building bridges to the lgbt community. And then the pushback happened. And that was primarily online, sort of personal vilification, name calling, heretic, pansy, faggot, false pooriest, et cete, itself. And then these are promoted by websites like Church Militant. So we went to see Church Militant. Its run from a small building outside detroit. This is our chapel. Michael booras, a former Television Reporter is the editor of this catholic website and has strong views on francis. Pope francis, holy father for the salvation of your own soul, you must step down from the chair of peter and do so immediately. The high tech studio here churns out online shows that he says reach three Million Viewers a month. His message that the vatican is falling apart. It is like the sewer is back washed into the church. The vatican swamp, may goodness, he hasnt drained it. Hes filled it up more. But he claim it is pope cant do that because hes secretly being manipulated. There is this big gay Network Running the vet can and one thing after another after another. Do you believe that . Absolutely. What does that mean . That they are homosexual or homosexual friendly cardinals and arch bishops who have a lot of say over how things get portrayed, what the agendas are. You think the people around him are trying to push a gay agenda. Absolutely. I dont think theyre trying. I think theyre being successful. While Church Militant is on the extreme end, senior clergy have also mobilized against francis. American Cardinal Raymond burk is one of four cardinals to issue an almost unheard of call, that the pope should resign. Any disagreement with the pope is like dissent are now like basically crapping all over pope francis. Traditionally the hope is said to be infallible. His rulings not to be questioned. But thats changing. And steve bannon is capitalizing on a broad spec trutrumspectrum pope is bad for business. You know, if we are concerned about people who are hungry, you have to know how to produce food. That requires business. It requires industry. It requires multinational corporations. Father robert is president of the Acton Institute in grand rapts, michigan, an organization which promotes come bieping capitalism with christian values. He believes deep down the pope is basically a socialist. The background of francis in argentina in some way influenced him. He saw business people, capital oo ists who were in collusion with the government and that his dominant understanding of what business is is selfish. Doing things to benefit only themselves rather than the poor. So i can understand his sympathies and his sensitivities. So is that the basic issue with pope francis that you have, that he doesnt get wealthy people . I think thats in good part my concern about him. While bannon shares the same concerns, softspoken father says theyre not working together. I dont identify with steve bannon. I have never met him. Hes not my cup of tea. Were not thats not our approach. It really isnt. Im not hiding any affiliation with the group. I really dont know them. Which was more than a little surprising to hear, working with an Investigative Team we discovered that acton sent a letter urging the Italian Government to support a group steve bannon is deeply involved in. Latin for human dignity. This is a letter that your rome office wrote to support the i didnt know about this. I didnt know about this. You didnt approve this letter . I did not. You didnt approve this liaison. It was our rome office that did that. Thats the first time i have seen that letter. In a follow up email, father told us that acton has no formal or informal relationship with steve bannon. Although, it has cooperated on a number of projects with his institute in the past. To see what it is all about, i drove 70 miles outside rome where on an isolated hill top, bannon is setting up his grand headquarters. Bannon says hes spending about a Million Dollars of his own money to lease and restore this 800 year old monastery for the next 19 years. Bannon plans to build an apartment for himself here and live here part of the year in this monastery of bannonism. He wanted to change america first. Now the pope and beyond. The plan is to turn this into a school for the next generation of pop you list leaders from all over the world. I think a lot of these what you call these is about the values that made us unique. Were saying lets have an academy that brings the best thinkers together and train what we call modern gladiators. Gladiators for christian values. Sounds terrifying. No, no, no. It shouldnt. But there have already been protests. The neighbors from the near by village sang antifascist songs as they marched to the monastery. Bannon doesnt appreciate being called a facist. He preferred pop list nationalist. And this pope, he says, is on the wrong side of history. Hes putting all the faults in the world on this movement. Hes identified this movement as the driver of, you know, unlimited problems in europe and north america. Youre saying that he had an issue with your movement. Huge issue. He preaches all around europe that the single biggist driver of problems in the world today is this sovereignty movement. Maybe hes right. Thats absolute nonsense. Bannon spends much of his time in italy these days where hes recognized so often he stops to sign autographs. And travels with a body guard. And hes just getting started. There are people who are going to see this and think, oh, no. Steve bannon, the guy who helped put trump in the white house now has his sights set on the vatican. Why would they think that . Because it is true. Because thats what you are doing. You are trying to bring change to this institution. This Institution Needs change. This institution is in decline. I think people will say that. Have you had any reaction from the vatican with all these efforts . Has the pope, anyone in his office contacted you . No, no. Said lets talk . But i have had an outpouring of lay people, particularly lawyers, bankers, others say, hey, how do we help in the United States . Who should we talk to . How do we get organized . Im starting that process of sitting down with people and saying, hey, this is what i think we have to do. This is just the beginning . This is just the beginning. This is going to take years. Up next, we go on assignment to charlotte, North Carolina. I have heard of black matters u. S. I clicked on their page. It appears it had 400,000 followers. So you said okay . Clicked okay. How russian trolls got americans to faceoff in the streets. The way they subscribe to movies. We dont follow the naysayers. Plants capture co2. What if other kinds of plants captured it too . If these industrial plants had technology that captured carbon like trees we could help lower emissions. Carbon capture is Important Technology and experts agree. Thats why were working on ways to improve it. So plants. Can be a little more. Like plants. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . Most pills dont finish the job because they dont relieve nasal congestion. Flonase sensimist is different. It relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. Its more complete allergy relief. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist helps block six key inflammatory substances. Most pills only block one. And six is greater than one. Flonase sensimist. Grab those command picture hanging strips and lets make it work theyre tool free and they hold strong. Or change your mind damage free. Like a pro. Command. Do. No harm. Conventional wisdom says you cant make a 400 horsepower sedan, thats also environmentally conscious. We dont follow conventional wisdom. It happened more than two years ago, but we are only now starting to understand what really went on in charlotte, North Carolina in september 2016. Riots proek out after an africanamerican man was fatality shot by police. It was a tense time in america. Across the country, the black lives Matter Movement was out on the streets. But what no one knew then was that americans were not the only ones paying close attention. Were going to continue to march. Were going to continue to protest. Andrew, a lawyer, was one of the organizers of that protest and right after it was over, he got an unsolicited offer of help. This was a facebook request from a woman. She said she was from a sympathetic Grass Roots Organization called black matters u. S. I never heard of black matters u. S. , so i clicked on their page. It appeared it had about 400,000 followers. Im thinking that this is a legitimate organization. So i checked her out. I saw that we had about 90 mutual friends in common. So you said okay . Yeah. Clicked okay. His new friend seemed exceptionally well connected. With her help, he organized several more protests. So you were communicating with her very often. Yeah. How many messages back and forth . Hundreds . Had to be hundreds. These people were talking to me from september all the way until july or Something Like that. Until summertime, i remember. How was her english . I mean. Have you ever got a text message from a millennial. They cant write. She talked like a normal millennial. Better than a lot of americans. But when he tried to get her on the phone, she was strangely unavailable. And she said that, oh, i just had throat surgery in california, and i cant speak. Did she say how long shed be out of commission. Yeah, for like three months. It was i cant talk for three months . Yeah. It was super bizarre. She couldnt talk because she wasnt real. It was a false persona created by russians and exposed last year in a legal complaint. The u. S. Justice department revealed she was part of a conspiracy by russian operatives to stir up unrest on american streets. He was dreamed up inside this nondescript Office Building in st. Petersburg, russia. The home of the Internet Research agency, an innocent sounding name for a troll farm. Think about it as the way you would write a tv show. Camille is a former google executive and a Cyber Security executive based in new york. There was a character. And maybe there is a team of screen writers who, you know, who meet and say, okay, what is helen going to do today . Shes like a tv character. That character played him and then vanished. When i went to my messages to where me and her were communicating, they were completely gone and disappeared. How did you feel . Did you feel like, i got had . I didnt know what it meant, you know . What happened . He wasnt alone. He was just one unwitting victim of a widespread Russian Campaign that reached as many as 126 million americans. A campaign that Robert Mueller investigated for two years. And while much of the coverage focussed on questions of collusion, mueller was digging into that troll farm in st. Petersburg. He indicted more than a dozen of its employees and the oligarch who funded it, better known as putins chef. How from st. Petersburg using computers do you get people out on the streets in the United States . Its a long process. So you create this fake organization. And then you give it the appearance of legitimacy by having many different arms to it, right . You get real people to come into your cause and into your fake organizing platforms. And then to carry out this with you and for you. Unwitting victims who are doing their russians bidding . Absolutely. The russian trolls hundreds of them were paid to turn americans against each other over issues including race, immigration and gun control. An old strategy of divide and conquer. They look at movementspopula. They look at trends and topics that they see have taken ground in the u. S. And then they replicate it. So russians saw these protests taking place and decided to do more of them . Yes. They decided this is divisive and we are going to be in the middle of it. The indicted russians may never see the inside of a u. S. Courtroom, but we do know how they ran their campaign. Thats because in 2018 the Senate Intelligence committee put the screws on the social Media Companies demanding that they hand over all the information they had about russias misuse of their platforms. Facebook plays a positive role the senators gave all that information to camille and her colleagues at a Data Analysis company. How much data are we talking about . How many tweets . How many emails . Millions of those. We said, what do you want us to do with that . Do you have any questions . They said, go figure it out on your own. Come back when you are done figuring it out. The team worked for seven months straight, part of the most comprehensive study yet of the russian meddling campaign. Whoa we could see that they had russian phone numbers registered. We could see that sometimes they were posted from st. Petersburg. We could see all the bread crumbs of the russian activity, and it seemed pretty straightforward. This was indeed an operation conducted from st. Petersburg in russia. Up next, we go to oxford university, where a group of computer scientists shows us how russia tried to tear American Society apart. [ paper rustling ] exactly, nothing. Theyre completely different people, thats why they need customized Car Insurance from liberty mutual. Theyll only pay for what they need [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. Youve done it again, limu. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Rheumatoid arthritis or United States<\/a>. Why is steve bannon now taking the vaticansy . Because nobody else has stepped up to do it. President trumps former Campaign Chairman<\/a> steve bannon is on a new crew skr crew said. Are you feeling confident you can also impact change here . Absolutely. No doubt. His goal is to save the Catholic Church<\/a> from the pope, who he says is failing to deal with the biggest crisis facing the church today. My problem with the pope today is about this crisis on pedophilia, that they are not treating this as a crisis. Another dark chapter. The vatican says pope francis accepted a resignation. Now the first u. S. Cardinal suspended by the vatican. The Catholic Church<\/a> has been accused of covering up for priests who have molested mostly young boys in a scandal which is engulfing franciss papalcy. Even broke his silence to discuss the silence, implying the current pope doesnt have it fully under control. Steve bannon says francis needs to do more or risk lawsuits that will bankrupt the vatican. I have worked at golden sacks and a lot of bankruptcies, okay . The Catholic Church<\/a> is heading to a financial crisis that will lead to a bankruptcy. Once thats gone, we have blown through two millennia of real estate and savings. It could actually bring down not the theology, not the teaching, not the community, but the physical and financial apparatus of this church. But pope francis has pledged zero tolerance for sex offenders in the church. He has acted. He has listened to victims and survivors. Im actually a survivor of sexual abuse myself. So i look to his leadership with some hope. John teaches theology at georgetown university. He says the popes critics are using the sex abuse crisis as cover. They weaponize the sexual abuse crisis to try and undermine his authority, his leadership and the affection people have for him as pope. While the vatican is a new battleground for bannon, he says its all part of gods plan, the same one that helped President Trump<\/a> into the white house. Divine province allowed us to win 2016, to draw the inside straight that we had to draw in the midwest. Do you really believe that . That trump was put in the white house because of di divine intervention. He an imperfect instrument, but hes an instrument. There are crazy people and there are religious crazy people. Jim martin runs american magazine, a catholic journal based in new york city. They think they have god on their sides. He says the opposition to the pope is part of a wave of authoritarian nationalist pop list movements rising around the world. Someone who is reaching out to them, thats going to upset you more specifically, they dont like lgbt people, people of color, they dont seem to like the poor very much even though yes ses spent time with them in the gos sell. It has a lot of money. It has sort of media origins. And its worldwide now. Its kind of shocking. Whats the connection between the alt right, the breitbarts, the Steve Bannons<\/a> . Its the same tactics, if not the same people. These kind of relentless campaigns against people that just dont let up. Father martin is often on the receiving end of those attacks, but says he is not the real target. People feel that they cant attack pope francis. They attack me instead. After 49 party goers were massacred at a gay nightclub in orlando, father martin wrote a book calling for the church to Start Building<\/a> bridges to the lgbt community. And then the pushback happened. And that was primarily online, sort of personal vilification, name calling, heretic, pansy, faggot, false pooriest, et cete, itself. And then these are promoted by websites like Church Militant<\/a>. So we went to see Church Militant<\/a>. Its run from a small building outside detroit. This is our chapel. Michael booras, a former Television Reporter<\/a> is the editor of this catholic website and has strong views on francis. Pope francis, holy father for the salvation of your own soul, you must step down from the chair of peter and do so immediately. The high tech studio here churns out online shows that he says reach three Million Viewers<\/a> a month. His message that the vatican is falling apart. It is like the sewer is back washed into the church. The vatican swamp, may goodness, he hasnt drained it. Hes filled it up more. But he claim it is pope cant do that because hes secretly being manipulated. There is this big gay Network Running<\/a> the vet can and one thing after another after another. Do you believe that . Absolutely. What does that mean . That they are homosexual or homosexual friendly cardinals and arch bishops who have a lot of say over how things get portrayed, what the agendas are. You think the people around him are trying to push a gay agenda. Absolutely. I dont think theyre trying. I think theyre being successful. While Church Militant<\/a> is on the extreme end, senior clergy have also mobilized against francis. American Cardinal Raymond<\/a> burk is one of four cardinals to issue an almost unheard of call, that the pope should resign. Any disagreement with the pope is like dissent are now like basically crapping all over pope francis. Traditionally the hope is said to be infallible. His rulings not to be questioned. But thats changing. And steve bannon is capitalizing on a broad spec trutrumspectrum pope is bad for business. You know, if we are concerned about people who are hungry, you have to know how to produce food. That requires business. It requires industry. It requires multinational corporations. Father robert is president of the Acton Institute<\/a> in grand rapts, michigan, an organization which promotes come bieping capitalism with christian values. He believes deep down the pope is basically a socialist. The background of francis in argentina in some way influenced him. He saw business people, capital oo ists who were in collusion with the government and that his dominant understanding of what business is is selfish. Doing things to benefit only themselves rather than the poor. So i can understand his sympathies and his sensitivities. So is that the basic issue with pope francis that you have, that he doesnt get wealthy people . I think thats in good part my concern about him. While bannon shares the same concerns, softspoken father says theyre not working together. I dont identify with steve bannon. I have never met him. Hes not my cup of tea. Were not thats not our approach. It really isnt. Im not hiding any affiliation with the group. I really dont know them. Which was more than a little surprising to hear, working with an Investigative Team<\/a> we discovered that acton sent a letter urging the Italian Government<\/a> to support a group steve bannon is deeply involved in. Latin for human dignity. This is a letter that your rome office wrote to support the i didnt know about this. I didnt know about this. You didnt approve this letter . I did not. You didnt approve this liaison. It was our rome office that did that. Thats the first time i have seen that letter. In a follow up email, father told us that acton has no formal or informal relationship with steve bannon. Although, it has cooperated on a number of projects with his institute in the past. To see what it is all about, i drove 70 miles outside rome where on an isolated hill top, bannon is setting up his grand headquarters. Bannon says hes spending about a Million Dollars<\/a> of his own money to lease and restore this 800 year old monastery for the next 19 years. Bannon plans to build an apartment for himself here and live here part of the year in this monastery of bannonism. He wanted to change america first. Now the pope and beyond. The plan is to turn this into a school for the next generation of pop you list leaders from all over the world. I think a lot of these what you call these is about the values that made us unique. Were saying lets have an academy that brings the best thinkers together and train what we call modern gladiators. Gladiators for christian values. Sounds terrifying. No, no, no. It shouldnt. But there have already been protests. The neighbors from the near by village sang antifascist songs as they marched to the monastery. Bannon doesnt appreciate being called a facist. He preferred pop list nationalist. And this pope, he says, is on the wrong side of history. Hes putting all the faults in the world on this movement. Hes identified this movement as the driver of, you know, unlimited problems in europe and north america. Youre saying that he had an issue with your movement. Huge issue. He preaches all around europe that the single biggist driver of problems in the world today is this sovereignty movement. Maybe hes right. Thats absolute nonsense. Bannon spends much of his time in italy these days where hes recognized so often he stops to sign autographs. And travels with a body guard. And hes just getting started. There are people who are going to see this and think, oh, no. Steve bannon, the guy who helped put trump in the white house now has his sights set on the vatican. Why would they think that . Because it is true. Because thats what you are doing. You are trying to bring change to this institution. This Institution Needs<\/a> change. This institution is in decline. I think people will say that. Have you had any reaction from the vatican with all these efforts . Has the pope, anyone in his office contacted you . No, no. Said lets talk . But i have had an outpouring of lay people, particularly lawyers, bankers, others say, hey, how do we help in the United States<\/a> . Who should we talk to . How do we get organized . Im starting that process of sitting down with people and saying, hey, this is what i think we have to do. This is just the beginning . This is just the beginning. This is going to take years. Up next, we go on assignment to charlotte, North Carolina<\/a>. I have heard of black matters u. S. I clicked on their page. It appears it had 400,000 followers. So you said okay . Clicked okay. How russian trolls got americans to faceoff in the streets. The way they subscribe to movies. We dont follow the naysayers. Plants capture co2. What if other kinds of plants captured it too . If these industrial plants had technology that captured carbon like trees we could help lower emissions. Carbon capture is Important Technology<\/a> and experts agree. Thats why were working on ways to improve it. So plants. Can be a little more. Like plants. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . Most pills dont finish the job because they dont relieve nasal congestion. Flonase sensimist is different. It relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. Its more complete allergy relief. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist helps block six key inflammatory substances. Most pills only block one. And six is greater than one. Flonase sensimist. Grab those command picture hanging strips and lets make it work theyre tool free and they hold strong. Or change your mind damage free. Like a pro. Command. Do. No harm. Conventional wisdom says you cant make a 400 horsepower sedan, thats also environmentally conscious. We dont follow conventional wisdom. It happened more than two years ago, but we are only now starting to understand what really went on in charlotte, North Carolina<\/a> in september 2016. Riots proek out after an africanamerican man was fatality shot by police. It was a tense time in america. Across the country, the black lives Matter Movement<\/a> was out on the streets. But what no one knew then was that americans were not the only ones paying close attention. Were going to continue to march. Were going to continue to protest. Andrew, a lawyer, was one of the organizers of that protest and right after it was over, he got an unsolicited offer of help. This was a facebook request from a woman. She said she was from a sympathetic Grass Roots Organization<\/a> called black matters u. S. I never heard of black matters u. S. , so i clicked on their page. It appeared it had about 400,000 followers. Im thinking that this is a legitimate organization. So i checked her out. I saw that we had about 90 mutual friends in common. So you said okay . Yeah. Clicked okay. His new friend seemed exceptionally well connected. With her help, he organized several more protests. So you were communicating with her very often. Yeah. How many messages back and forth . Hundreds . Had to be hundreds. These people were talking to me from september all the way until july or Something Like<\/a> that. Until summertime, i remember. How was her english . I mean. Have you ever got a text message from a millennial. They cant write. She talked like a normal millennial. Better than a lot of americans. But when he tried to get her on the phone, she was strangely unavailable. And she said that, oh, i just had throat surgery in california, and i cant speak. Did she say how long shed be out of commission. Yeah, for like three months. It was i cant talk for three months . Yeah. It was super bizarre. She couldnt talk because she wasnt real. It was a false persona created by russians and exposed last year in a legal complaint. The u. S. Justice department revealed she was part of a conspiracy by russian operatives to stir up unrest on american streets. He was dreamed up inside this nondescript Office Building<\/a> in st. Petersburg, russia. The home of the Internet Research<\/a> agency, an innocent sounding name for a troll farm. Think about it as the way you would write a tv show. Camille is a former google executive and a Cyber Security<\/a> executive based in new york. There was a character. And maybe there is a team of screen writers who, you know, who meet and say, okay, what is helen going to do today . Shes like a tv character. That character played him and then vanished. When i went to my messages to where me and her were communicating, they were completely gone and disappeared. How did you feel . Did you feel like, i got had . I didnt know what it meant, you know . What happened . He wasnt alone. He was just one unwitting victim of a widespread Russian Campaign<\/a> that reached as many as 126 million americans. A campaign that Robert Mueller<\/a> investigated for two years. And while much of the coverage focussed on questions of collusion, mueller was digging into that troll farm in st. Petersburg. He indicted more than a dozen of its employees and the oligarch who funded it, better known as putins chef. How from st. Petersburg using computers do you get people out on the streets in the United States<\/a> . Its a long process. So you create this fake organization. And then you give it the appearance of legitimacy by having many different arms to it, right . You get real people to come into your cause and into your fake organizing platforms. And then to carry out this with you and for you. Unwitting victims who are doing their russians bidding . Absolutely. The russian trolls hundreds of them were paid to turn americans against each other over issues including race, immigration and gun control. An old strategy of divide and conquer. They look at movementspopula. They look at trends and topics that they see have taken ground in the u. S. And then they replicate it. So russians saw these protests taking place and decided to do more of them . Yes. They decided this is divisive and we are going to be in the middle of it. The indicted russians may never see the inside of a u. S. Courtroom, but we do know how they ran their campaign. Thats because in 2018 the Senate Intelligence<\/a> committee put the screws on the social Media Companies<\/a> demanding that they hand over all the information they had about russias misuse of their platforms. Facebook plays a positive role the senators gave all that information to camille and her colleagues at a Data Analysis<\/a> company. How much data are we talking about . How many tweets . How many emails . Millions of those. We said, what do you want us to do with that . Do you have any questions . They said, go figure it out on your own. Come back when you are done figuring it out. The team worked for seven months straight, part of the most comprehensive study yet of the russian meddling campaign. Whoa we could see that they had russian phone numbers registered. We could see that sometimes they were posted from st. Petersburg. We could see all the bread crumbs of the russian activity, and it seemed pretty straightforward. This was indeed an operation conducted from st. Petersburg in russia. Up next, we go to oxford university, where a group of computer scientists shows us how russia tried to tear American Society<\/a> apart. [ paper rustling ] exactly, nothing. Theyre completely different people, thats why they need customized Car Insurance<\/a> from liberty mutual. Theyll only pay for what they need [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. Youve done it again, limu. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Rheumatoid arthritis or Psoriatic Arthritis<\/a>. When considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr a oncedaily pill for adults with moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis<\/a> or active Psoriatic Arthritis<\/a> for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. It can reduce pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. Xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened. As have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, low blood cell counts, higher liver tests and cholesterol levels. Dont start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. Your doctor should perform blood tests before and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. Tell your doctor if youve been somewhere fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. Dont let another morning go by without asking your doctor about xeljanz xr oxford, england, the city of dreaming spires are best known for its world famous university. Its home to some of the best data analysts in the world. One of the researchers at the institute. Originally from california, hes now an Oxford Academic<\/a> who specializes in online disinformation. What the russians are doing is taking that older strategy of drawing on racial divides and then updating it for the social media age. They are looking at the kinds of politics and the kinds of ways in which identity are being talked about on social media platforms. And then theyre going out and trying to imitate that. Hi, guys. The oxford researchers worked hand in hand with Cyber Security<\/a> expert and her colleagues. Its increpted. They poured over the data the Senate Intelligence<\/a> committee obtained and found the russians picked their moments carefully, planting disinformation when it would have its biggest impact like when americans were going to the polls. So this is the facebook ads. So the biggest spike is here, and this is the day after the first president ial debate in september right before the election. Mimi carefully plotted the russian facebook activity against actual news events. The second highest spike is this one here, which is the day of the battery charge. This third spike is three days after the Cruise Campaign<\/a> got suspended. They were following the ins and outs of the campaign. It seems like they were, yeah. The most surprising thing is that President Trump<\/a>s unexpected victory didnt slow the russian trolls down. In fact, they ramped up their activity after the election. So here the biggest spike is in december the 29th and 30th of the 2016. Thats when obama lost the sanctions in response to the election meddling. The russian response was to do more. For social media, yes, they really ramped up their volume of how much they were talking. This wasnt just about politics. This was about creating chaos and the russians used pretty much every trick in the book. What is this . What are we looking at . So every dot that you see here is a fake twitter account. And, so, we organized them by who was citing one another. And this reveals the teams of accounts, right . One of my favorite is the purple one. Thats the team whose only purpose we could find was to create food hopes around thanksgiving and telling americans turkeys that you buy at walmart have salmonella. It was of course untrue. Thats information warfare. Absolutely. Its turkey. Its thanksgiving. Thats an expermit of trying it out and seeing how much panic you can use. And the social Media Companies<\/a> provided the russian trolls with the very tools they needed to cobombard americans wh custom made propaganda. Anybody can go on business and create a business account and virtually you can get a drop down menu that tells you exactly who you want to target. You can target by their age. You can target by gender. You can target by et nisty or religion. If you look at what they did for mexican americans here, some of the interests they targeted was people who like low riders, who like mexico and who like rap. The russians planted posts to encourage mexican americans to rise up against their government. But the biggest and most effective operation by far targeted africanamericans. They didnt just try to rip off black lives matter with their own black matters u. S. , they also created hundreds of pages and posts designed specifically to lure users in. So you see, for example, this image saying black girls dont have to be mixed to be beautiful, right . Thats basically click bait. It is something that many of us would agree with. So we click like on that. That can put us in the black matters ecosystem. Once the russians infiltrated, they would slip in other messages, manipulative ones. It was really about trying to distract africanamerican voters from engaging in the political process, focus on something else, focus on your own community, lets not focus on the election because there is no point. Never in a many years would you guess that this was done by a group of russians in st. Petersbu petersburg. They are good at mimics the existing discourses they are trying to manipulate. They were so good at this game, they were able to move people off their computers and on to the streets, tapping into racial tensions in charlotte, North Carolina<\/a>. God save the United States<\/a>. Firing up Trump Supporters<\/a> in d. C. And egging on his detractors in new york city. The russian pup masters wanted discord and division and they knew exactly which strings to pull. In houston, texas, they even orchestrated two rival demonstrations on opposite street corners and to ensure that things got ugly, they encouraged conservative protesters to show up with more than just confederate flags. They wanted clashes. And that specific example, people were told to come with arms. Were told bring weapons . Yeah. The audacity of the trolls was staggering. And its thanks to these researchers that we are finally beginning to understand the sheer scale and complexity of the russian disinformation campaign. But even after spending months sifting through millions of posts, they say we still dont have the full story. We got very limited data thats come from facebook, instagram, twitter and google. There is a whole lot more information they could have provided us. The fact that they didnt do that i think does suggest that theyre trying to limit the amount of public scrutiny that is available on this topic. Try as they might, this is an issue the social media giants havent been able to get away from. Facebook, twitter and others are now taking steps to clamp down on fake accounts. But ganesh says it is all too little too late. Were really behind the curve. We need to step up and we need to move a lot faster because right now there is no transparency about political advertising, and if there was transparency, it would be a whole lot harder for the russians to be able to do this work. But there is no transparency and no sign that the Russian Campaign<\/a> is slowing down. The Internet Research<\/a> agency has moved offices. But its still going strong, still probing for weaknesses. American researchers say the russian trolls have moved on to encouraging the antivaccination movement and they havent given up trying to manipulate voters either. Do you think based on what you have seen that this is going to continue through the 2020 election . Yes. But arent the companies now aware . Arent people more aware . Its going to be a cat and mouse chase, right . Were going to get better at detecting it and then the attackers will get more subtle at manipulating us. Coming up, we go on assignment to the democratic republican of congo to meet a noble prize winning surgeon they call dr. Miracle. How old was the youngest patient you ever treated . Its terrible to say, but six month old baby. Who was raped . Yes. One mans mission to make a difference after the break. Enced by over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens. Like those from buddy. Because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. Feel the clarity. And live claritin clear. Ensure max protein. To give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you dont. straining ill take that. cheers 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. Ensure max protein. In two great flavors. Of nondrowsy claritin. And relief from symptoms caused by over. 200 outdoor and indoor allergens. Like those from pollen, pets and dust. Because new memories start with dusting off old ones. Feel the clarity and live claritin clear. The Noble Committee<\/a> has decided to award the noble peace prize to 2018 to dennis. Havent heard of him . Hes finally getting the recognition he deserves. On the international stage, he is a rock star. And at home in the democratic republican of congo, hes known as dr. Miracle for his battle against rape. The 20th was no kinder and the 21st century continued the tradition with civil wars killing millions and rival militias raping millions more. This spot on the out skirts of the town may not look like much, but walkthrough this gate and you are leaving behind all the violence and bloodshed that have torn this country apart and entering a sanctuary, a place of healing and hope. How can you be quiet and feel that you are really human when you come and pick up all these women who cant speak for themselves . He is a pioneering gynecologist and surgeon. He founded this hospital 20 years ago in 1999 and operates on women every year reconstructing their bodies and minds after they have been brutally rapesd and abused. Now it is around 45,000. 45,000 just here . Just here. So this is not an old problem that you are still dealing with . No. We still have cases. The stories are barbaric and endless. This woman went to get water from a stream when two men grabbed her and dragged her into a house. They tied her up and raped her continuously for two days. Another survivor, sandra, was raped by a neighbor. It didnt just stop with the rape. You found out then you were sick . Yeah. She was later diagnosed with the hiv virus. The congo has been torn apart since a cue in 1997 triggered whats known as africas first world war. Seven neighboring countries intervened and hundreds of armed groups often using child soldiers carried out atrocities. The carnage left more than five million dead and forced more than four million from their homes. The violence also gave birth to a rape epidemic. 350,000 women a year are sexually assaulted in congo. So the 450 beds are constantly full. So 18 men. 18 men . And three of them rape her. This poor girl was only nine years old. What kind of monsters rape a nine year old girl. This happened for her two times. So this was the second time . Yes. Its just the most atrocious thing you can imagine. How old was the youngest patient you ever treated . Its terrible to say, but a six month old. A six month old baby . Baby. Girl . Yes. Who was raped . Yes. What do you think when you say this little tiny baby on your operating table . What do you think as a doctor, as a human being . All my staff was traumatized by this because sometimes you can say, maybe its happened and you can speculate on the reason. But for a baby. And when it happened, not just one baby but many babies. And the point is what . To destroy women, to destroy babies. It is really a weapon. It is a very strong weapon to destroy you mentally or the community or the society. Even though the war officially ended in 2003, war lords and their rag tag militias still roam the country, killing and looting as they go. So a war without a political agenda, a war without a true religious agenda, just war lordism. People are fighting just because they want to get to an area where they can exploit women without any control. And this is really a terrible thing, so destroy women because just you want to. Violence here has always been about access to resources that were in demand somewhere else. Slaves, then ivory, rubber, gold and now the rare mineral used in everything from mobile phones to pacemakers. The war lords use rape as a weapon to drive away anyone who would dare oppose them. Many of the victims come from areas where there happens to be gold. Yes. And other minerals. Yes, exactly. Coltan is used in mobile telephones and also electronic gad gets. The more these minerals are present the more rape. There is really a correlation. This vicious cycle of mineral richness, mineral wealth and armed groups and rape, they go hand in hand. Hand in hand. Coming up, how he became a prisoner in his own property. Ery i cant believe it. That we just hit the motherlode of softserve ice cream . I got cones, anybody wants one oh, yeah get ya some no, i cant believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my Car Insurance<\/a> with geico. Ed ed we struck sprinkles [cheers] believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance<\/a>. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. You can barely feel. Openturning 50 opens theuard. Door to a lot of new things. Like now your doctor may be talking to you about screening for colon cancer. Luckily theres me, cologuard. The noninvasive test you use at home. It all starts when your Doctor Orders<\/a> me. Then its as easy as get, go, gone. You get me when im delivered. Right to your front door and in the privacy of your own home. Theres no prep or special diet needed. You just go to the bathroom, to collect your sample. After that, im gone, shipped to the lab for dna testing that finds colon cancer and precancer. Cologuard is not right for everyone. It is not for high risk individuals, including those with a history of colon cancer or precancer. Ibd, certain Hereditary Cancer<\/a> syndromes, or a Family History<\/a> of colon cancer. Maybe ill be at your door soon ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. Covered by medicare and most major insurers. The hospital in the democratic republic of congo is a testament to one mans fight against Sexual Violence<\/a>. Hes treated thousands of women who have been brutally raped. But he knows the physical wounds are only half the battle. So hes introduced different types of therapy. Dance workshops. Psychological counselling and skills to help the woman recover from trama. They are coming here to have a very different trama. And you cant physical result in care of the psychology. We need to train them to be and restart their life. Remember sandra . Shes fighting back. Determined never to be a victim again. Shes also recorded a song. As part of the Music Therapy<\/a> program. And its getting air play. What was it like the first time you heard your song on the radio . Howd it make you feel . I was happy. The song was straight from my heart. What was the message . I wanted to tell victim of Sexual Violence<\/a> who are rejected that they are just as important as everyone else. You can see them dancing. You can see them laughing. Its like just so happy to be alive. She works alongside the doctor. Helping women rebuild their shattered lives. Theyre the strongest women. You dont know whats going on with them. Theyre so beautiful. Young women. If i fell you the story. Oh my god. You can see the woman eat twice a week. She can carry 200 pounds. Can you imagine how strong they are . Transform all the pain to power and create a new wave of revolution. With our girls. Its not a rebel. Its a revolution. Women maybe leading a peaceful ref lugs. But the hospital is under constant threat of attack. Armed guards are stationed everywhere. Doctor is risking his life carrying out his work. Gunmen tried to assassinate after a speech calling for an end to rape as weapon of terror. What happened . People with guns. Waiting for me at my house. And when i just enter my house they start to shoot. Im so sorry that one of my staff was killed at this moment. This was a terrible thing happen in my life. The attack cost the doctor his freedom. You dont leave this hospital very much. Not since 2013. Im leaving the hospital. Its your home . And something of a prison. Its a kind of prison. But im very happy to serve. Despite the threats, despite the violence, and despite the relentless pain and suffering that surrounds him. He soldiers on. Determined to live up to his reputation. As doctor miracle. You have been doing this for years now. Does spending all of your time and seeing victim after victim has it diminished your faith in humanity . This is really a good question. But, my faith i think that we human have a choice. We can choose to do bad things or good things. Do you think people are inherently evil . When this happens constantly. We need to show people they can do something another way. And what is happening in many conflict to the women. Is a terrible thing for the humanity. The democratic republic of congo is thot exactly living up to its name. Elections were held in december. And a new president won. But the former president who hp in power for 18 years. Refuses to give up. His allies formed a coalition government. And sworn loyalty to him. The future is uncertain at best. Is there hope for congo . There is hope. I think that if we think theres no hope. I should just leave the country. I have hope. You have a son. Who is also studying to be a gynecologist and hopes to follow in your footsteps. I cant decide for him. If he follows in my footsteps i will be happy. To you think he will . Keep this going. I hope. Next week were on assignment in china. When the communist government is investing billions in technology. From robots to all seeing cameras. What is china trying to achieve . Whoever wins tech wars will control the world in the future. Naysayer said no one would subscribe to a car the way they subscribe to movies. We dont follow the naysayers. You wont find relief here. Congestion and pressure . Go to the pharmacy counter for powerful claritind. While the leading allergy spray only relieves 6 symptoms, claritind relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. Claritind relieves more. My dbut now, i take used tometamucil every day. Sh it traps and removes the waste that weighs me down, so i feel lighter. Try metamucil, and begin to feel what lighter feels like. Discover. Hi, whats this Social Security<\/a> alert . Its a free alert if we find your Social Security<\/a> number on the dark web. Good, cuz im a little worried about my information getting out. Oh, whys that . [bird speaking] my Social Security<\/a> number is. 8 7 5 dash okay, i see. [bird laughing] is that your daughter . No, its a macaw. And his name is timothy. Timmy, want a cracker . Timmy, do you want a cracker . [bird speaking] what do you think, kevin . No. Sign up online for free. Discover Social Security<\/a> alerts. Sign up each day justin. At work. Walk. And after work. He does it all with dr. Scholls. Only dr. Scholls has massaging gel insoles that provide allday comfort. To keep him feeling more energized. Dr. Scholls. Born to move. Conventional wisdom says you cant make a 400 horsepower sedan, thats also environmentally conscious. We dont follow conventional wisdom. Xfinity watchathon week. Television is back now through april 14, enjoy free access to the best shows and movies from hbo, showtime, epix and more. What so, you can get more into what youre into. Whether its more laughs, oops. Epic escapes, or highflying thrills, get more into what youre into. Just say watchathon into your x1 voice remote, or download the Xfinity Stream<\/a> app. Xfinity watchathon week, free. Now through april 14. Good evening. For years people waiting on checkout lines in a newsstand have been drawn in by headlines from the National Enquirer<\/a>. When donald trump announced his presidency. The weekly tabloid once known for celebrity gossip began playing an unlikely role in politics. The revealing look behind the pages of the National Enquirer<\/a>. The National Enquirer<\/a> is at the checkout aisle all across america. Powered by its sensational articles, it has become one of the significant poply cases in","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia800909.us.archive.org\/35\/items\/MSNBCW_20190415_010000_Richard_Engel_on_Assignment\/MSNBCW_20190415_010000_Richard_Engel_on_Assignment.thumbs\/MSNBCW_20190415_010000_Richard_Engel_on_Assignment_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240617T12:35:10+00:00"}