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MSNBCW Ronan Farrow Daily October 27, 2014

That child is being tested. In Washington State this hour, a moment of silence will be held at the high school outside seattle where a student opened fire killing two and wounding four others. That second student died as a result of her injuries. Jia soriano. She was 14 years old. Jailen fryburg opened fire killing another girl before fatally shooting himself. Upsetting story there. In florida, today is the first day of jury selection in the trial of one of four florida a m students charged in the death of a fellow marching band member. He died allegedly as a result of hazing. He was badly beaten after a Football Game on a school bus. It was decided that students whose trials were slated to begin will be tried in april. 15 others were originally charged in the case and most of those were settled. It shines a troubling spotlight on hazing. Lets look at todays top story. Statemandated ebola quarantines. I understand people feel like they have a risk and i think we can have a conversation about what the measures might look like. It is unacceptable and feel like my basic human rights have been violated. They driven by fear or facts. She is the first person quarantined that calls for travelers to be turning after returning for guinea, sierra leon and liberia. The four states are new york, new jersey, illinois, and florida. The governors of the states say the move is necessary to protect the public. Its the governments job to protect the safety and health of our citizens. We have taken this action and i absolutely have no second thoughts about it. It should be voluntary and mandatory tow protect the Public Health. The director recommended it and accepted his recommendation. Some people will say we are being coo cautious. We have individuals coming from the infected areas. A different approach from virginia. That will make contact coming from the same countries. All must monitor themselves for 21 days. All have to agree to stay home for the period and get a daily visit. Not everyone agrees with the quarantine policies. They simply go too far . Kristin is outside the hospital where casey hick ox is being held. Thank, kristin. Why is she being moved there . Still no sign of her today. At some point, she will be leaving the hospital here. That after a reversal by the state on the 21day quarantine. State officials said she hasnt had any symptoms in the past 24 hours and she tested negative and after consulting with them, they decided to grand her request to leave after she threatened to sue, saying it was a violation of her civil rights to keep her here. She requested transport to maine. We are told that she will travel the private car and not on Public Transportation and commercial aircraft. When she gets to maine, that state decides what happens. We are learning more about the woman, casey hick ox. She said she is not a loud mouth activist, but understands the contagiousness of the virus and knows she has to come back and be subjected to a policy that is not based on anything other than fear. Heres what Chris Christie said. Thank you so much for taking the time to join us. First of all, you know casey. Have you heard about her condition and how she is doing . I know that she is healthy and a symptomatic and feeling fine physically regarding the ebola symptoms. She worked with ebola victims and had contact with family. She is part of what she is doing is educating the public where she is at where there is the outbreaks of ebola. So when she and people know she is not infectious. She is physically feeling fine. This is emotionally taxing. She believes her human rights are being violated. Is there evidence of that . You know, any Public Health measure is a balance between someones individual rights versus the population measures. I dont know. I cant really weigh in on human rights violation. I think it was extreme to say to someone that it feels good who knows all about the infectiousness of ebola and her symptoms and where she is at in the contagiousness realm. She was saying i will be here for 21 days. No matter whether im contagious or not. We are looking at pictures in the quarantine chamber. Is it a problem that these are political officials rather than medical doctors making these calls about who to quarantine . Exactly. Its a Health Decision that should be made. This is early in this and we have to decide where they are coming from. She will be able to go home by private car. They want to have the 21day quarantine for her to be able to go home and do it there and be visited twice a day. I think that is handily rather than her being stuck in this hospital unit. Doctor, thanks for your time. Our thoughts are with casey right now. She is raising this question that states are grappling with right now. Our Chris Jansing is there and she asked about u. S. Health workers treating the patients. We have to find the balance between addressing the fears and encouraging and incentivizing the heroes. These workers are going into the hot zone. They are american heroes. We have to valorize and that and incentivize that while ensuring the American People feel safe. Heroes. These Health Workers are risk everything to fight the outbreak and protect our country from it. Is that something that is right . A professor at the university of north carolina. He committed his to helping treat and fight ebola. You have a personal take on this and give us a sense of what that is like on a personal level. Are they using Vacation Time and does your boss support it . Most of the people going overseas up until now have been volunteers or using Vacation Time. And imprisoning the nurse who took the Vacation Time is really terrible. The voll eegs of mine are going from. Some people are upset that doctor spencer didnt quarantine himself immediately. He waited until he showed symptoms. You are not contagious until you are symptomatic. Did he make the right call . There is absolutely no chance of becoming infected when someone is not having symptoms. In fact if you tried to do a sensitive test once you get symptoms within the 50 days, sometimes that is negative for the virus and the blood. The data for Doctors Without Borders they had 700 people from europe and australiaia and the United States who have flown back after working in the high risk areas and no secondary patients have become infected. They have only had three Health Care Workers who have become infected. That was from working in the high risk areas. No family members, no colleagues and no one on airplanes, Public Transportation and look at the Duncan Family in dallas. He was in a small apartment, deadly ill. He knows his fiance and nieces and nephews and friends and cousins were there. None became infected. It is a deadly virus to Health Care Workers, but to the general population and certainly in the United States. A lot of reason not to be afraid. The last question, you heard him worry about whether he would discourage other volunteers who are so so injury. Are you worried about that . I am worried that i will be stuck over there. They have been champing at the bit to shut down all air traffic. Remember the best success is to attack the problem. If we wait, we will shut our borders and not let isis in. They will get in. Similarly with ebola. You have got to solve the problem over there. Doctor, appreciate your insights on this. I want to go to the White House Briefing where they are addressing this Ebola Response question right now. Take a listen, everybody. Strictly related to Health Care Workers and not just returning and not just people who were returning from the region. The distinction is important because it continues to be the view of this administration that stopping this outbreak is important to our National Security and the safety and health of american citizens. As we said many, many times, the likelihood of a widespread outbreak in this country of ebola is exceedingly low. The only way to entirely eliminate that risk is to stop this outbreak in its tracks. In order to succeed in stopping this outbreak in west africa, we are going to need doctors and nurses traveling to west africa to treat ebola patients. Sadly, tragically even, this Ebola Outbreak in west africa occurred in countries that have little to no modern medical infrastructure. That is the reason that we have seen this Ebola Outbreak spiral so quickly. In a way that claimed so many lives. Whatever policies are put in place in this country to protect the American Public do not serve as a disincentive to doctors and nurses from this country volunteering to travel to west africa to treat ebola patients. It reflects a commitment from a reflection of a generosity and spirit and concern for common humanity worthy of praise. It also reflects a commitment to the ideal that stopping the Ebola Outbreak in west africa is the only way to eliminate the risk to the people from the ebola virus. What you will i guess this is the last thing i want to say. You will hear from them later today Additional Information about quite lines that they believe should be in place to they are returning from that. We will have additional guidelines from cdc and they will make that announcement. Ultimately its the responsibility. The authority is with state and local officials to make decisions about how best to protect the citizens. Doesnt that create a patch work or policies that confusion the public and encourage people to gain the system and lie about what they encountered when they have been in west africa when you dont have an overarching federal policy that moves . Well, we were talking about this earlier. Anticipating your question. In some ways you can take this up with james madison. States are given significant authority for governing their constituents. It is certainly true when it comes to Public Safety and Public Health. At the same time i think that you have seen a strong working happy between states across the country and the federal government. What we believe is important and i think this is a duty shared by governors and local officials across the country, these kinds of policies should be driven by science. And the best scientific advice that is available. We have experts at the centers for Disease Control and hhs that have been dealing with Ebola Outbreaks for decades now. There is a body of science and research that should guide the implementation of the policies. We will work closely with states and localities to do that. The best and most recent piece of evidence will illustrate this ongoing coordination. This mornings announcement that casey hick ox, the nurse who returned from west africa will be discharged from the hospital in new jersey and will be traveling via private transportation to her home in maine. Lets take the case of the pentagon. You have talked about how the administration has been aware and acted on the Ebola Outbreak since march. And then shouldnt this policy be in place when you decided to send troops to west africa and what appears to be being made up on the fly . The commitment of department of defense resources was something that the president announced last month. This is an ongoing effort by the department of defense to use their expertise in west africa to assist those First Responders who were actually treating ebola patients. We have been clear that the role American Military will not be to render assistance to the people of west africa. Instead it will be the logistical expertise of the American Military that will be deployed to assist the doctors and nurses and other experts from around the world who are responding to this urgent situation. That was a commitment made by the president about a month or so ago. That is we are already seeing important work being done in west africa by our American Military. That is sending a mixed message about the needs for these policies. We believe that the and if it wasnt clear before, the department has not been settled and implemented yet. They will ultimately that will be a decision that is driven by a variety of factors. What we are what this administration is working to do is coordinate with state and local officials to put in place the policies that scientific experts tell us are in the best interests of the American People. Thats what we believe should guide the policy decisions made in the country. Im confused because we have known about this outbreak for sometime and we are going to hear as you say guidelines from protocols for returning medical workers which we know they were there. And the pentagon too in the case of these people who are being held or semi quarantined in italy. Why werent these decisions made earlier . What this reflects is a commitment by this administration to review the guidelines in place to make sure that they reflect what is injury to the American People. We should not lose sight of whatever guidelines put in place should not unduly burden the Health Care Workers who are operating in west africa. Very difficult situations. They are putting themselves at risk to try to meet the needs of other people. That is a remarkable show of charity. Is also is an effort that is clearly in the best interest of the American People. The only way to entirely eliminate the risk from ebola to the American People is to stop this outbreak in west africa. American citizens are using their own medical expertise in pursuit of that goal. These individuals are heroes. They are a commitment to their common man and to their country as that should be respected. We believe we can show them the respect we have earned while protecting the American People. Its reviewing how they suddenlied the series of problems and the ignition witches. Did the white house conduct this investigation and are they satisfied with the performance . Roberta, i can tell you that they have been aggressive in responding to the situation related to a defective air bag. They have ought to move forward to prosect the American People once they had data to indicate action was needed. There have been some issues that have cropped up around the announcement of the safety advisory last week. And the department of transportation review that commenced is the right step to make sure that everyone is focused on learning for this situation and strengthening the response. White House Press Secretary josh ernest emphasizing to stop the ebola virus will require doctors and nurses traveling to west africa and these people should be celebrate as heroes and not stigmatized. He said there would be new guidelines and responding to questions as to whether that indicates a lack of preparedness, he said it actual low shows that the administration is reassessing in realtime. He had questions about the role of the military in west africa saying they are not rendering assistance, but they will be there to help First Responders. I want to turn to another big challenge. We have tark numbers. Isis earns 8 hundred helped million a year and controls 350,000 barrels of oil a day in iraq and syria. The u. S. Is considering cutting off the oil flow. The chief Foreign Correspondent is following this in turkey right now. How soon could the bombings start in. Worry we dont know how soon, but it would be potentially significant. Isis is a militant organization. It is a fanatical organization that follows a rat cal ideology, but it is a business and needs money. It operates mostly by selling black market oil and taken over Oil Refineries and sells them to whoever will buy it. Sells some to turkey and sells some to enemies. The kurds. It sells to enemies in the regime when the price is right. They had the city. Its the isis capital. It is run by isis. Every month the foreign fighters who live there, these are the nonsyrians from tunisia, egypt, alger algeria. They get a salary of 1,500 a month. Many brought their own families from tunisia and north africa and live there and live quite well. If you came from parts of north africa, that can be a different salary. They are pretty much the only people that have money. If you cutoff the money, you cutoff the prestige and you put a lot of pressure on isis that is not just military pressure, not just the am boing campaign. Thanks for following that. Glad you are safe. Take a look at the money flow. The nbc news terrorism analyst. You heard him mention that the people to whom this oil is being sold are a pretty Diverse Group including u. S. Allies. What can the u. S. Do other than the military steps to try to stop the sales . The u. S. Has threatened to put sanctions on anyone who buys the oil, thus depriving them of a customer and a consumer. And there is the prospect of bombing pipelines. Before we bomb them, we have to understand that is an extreme step. We are destroying infrastructure that takes time to rebuild. Thats a decision that we cant come too lightly. There the other steps such as sanctions that could be ratcheted up first. Yes, if those are effective, thats an option. I top the look at where this money is coming from. One source is kidnaps for

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