Reform will go nowhere until they see the president s tax returns. The administration pushed back on that today. Will the president release his tax returns so that the president has released plenty of information and has given more Financial Disclosure than anybody else, i think the American Population has plenty of information. Right there. Right there. Other people have the right to ask questions. According to our estimations in the 2005 returns out there, getting rid of the alternative minimum tax would save him, he would only have paid 5. 3 million in federal income taxes. So your response to those citizen hikes say could it benefit his own businesses. Let me comment, what this is about is creating jobs and creating Economic Growth. And thats what massive tax cuts and massive tax reform in simplifying the system is what were going to do. It is just another example of a third complicated set of rules. Democrats were also swift to react to all of this. Chuck schumer said the president s plan makes life easier for wealthy and special interests and makes life harder for middle class and lower income americans. Eugene robinson, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the Washington Post and Steve Kornacki in new york. Ari, i want to start with you. You know a lot more about tax reform than do i. Why is the president rolling out another piece of legislation without having republicans in congress on board first . Well, i think they largely are on board. If you remember, republicans talked about it. Theyre on board. Theyre there for tax reform. They have said that the money isnt there and theres some resistance to spending this kind of money on tax cuts before they generated more revenue. Isnt thathe case . Well, they are on board. This is dogma to republicans as you well know. And it has been talked about for years. And donald trump ran on it. I think you have to go back to when twothirds of the people thought the economy was on the wrong track. Weve had growth for the last eight to ten years. The problem is it particularly hurts middle income working americans. And Donald Trumps belief, by cutting taxes you can increase Economic Growth and thats what the economy needs. I dont think theres anything surprising or unusual about this. I read tonight somewhere that paul ryan said they didnt have the votes for this yet. Do you see a collision course with republicans in congress . I think i would take issue with what ari said in one respect. I think this is a surprising and unusual proposal because it is so, it is so wild. Cutting rates this much blows Something Like a 5 trillion hole in the deficit. Increases the debt by much over a decade. And it is also dogma in the Republican Party that we need to worry long fwerm the mounting federal debt. This just sends it to the moon. That will be tough for a lot of fiscal conservative republicans, i think, to swallow. Remember that it is also dogma and republicans to repeal and replace obamacare. That hasnt worked out so well yet. And this, it is even more fundamental to a lot of republican whos really, really worry about the deficit. Steve, let me bring you in here. What kind of test do you think donald trump faces to prove that he can legislate . I think the test is, can you get this through . And i think eugene is right. The major issue, it looks like the sfrat theyll go with here is not bynum. Pass this with republican votes. It means if you got the republican votes, you can get it through. The stumbling block theyll have is the question of the deficit. Heres the issue. House republicans under paul ryan. They liked the idea of tarm. Okay. It is neutral. Theyre saying they dont want to go down that road. If you dont replace it, then the deficit becomes the issue. This is where there might be linkage to the other big development. Thats this deal that the House Freedom caucus struck on the issue of obamacare, repeal and replace. Remember. Not a very popular bill. But what did they say in that there would be savings on the deficit. Right. So could you find a way. And theyre saying maybe that would come first. If you could find a way to pass, repeace and replace obamacare, could you get some saving theres that might then overcome the internal resistance. A lot of pieces there. A huge challenge to put Something Like that together. Listen, he is right about the sort of place that tax cuts hold in the hearts of traditional publics and conservatives. But the promises were as important as the voters. And i was just back in michigan and pennsylvania. Without even asking them, they talked about how theyre still waiting for action. And the white house has a statement from the president saying, do we have it . This afternoon, President Trump spoke with both president s of mexico and canada and the conversations were pleasant and productive. He agreed not to terminate nafta at this time. He will work to make it better. I know from talking to the voters, what they heard during campaign baltimore he would pull us out of nafta. Im pretty sure theyll be deflated by this commitment to stay in nafta. What do you think the fine line is that the president has to walk . Its an interesting one. Theres symbolism. That word, that acronym nafta. We heard this at every rally. A bill supported strongly by crooked hillary. Remember, every time you see a closed factory or a wiped out community, the clintons really did this to you. Nafta was a disaster. Nafta was a disaster. But were staying in. Never mind. Do you think there are any political problems with him, not with republicans but the democrats who joined him in. I think that donald trump, everything is a negotiation. He has never been a fixed ideological candidate. Hes always been a floating populist. If you believe serving a negotiation urgs move the goalpost to a starker position and then you see what you can get out at the end. I think thats what he was doing with the Prime Minister and president. He said hes reserving the rights to pull us out. If you dont think hes a diplomat, you should give him credit for working with canada and mexico. If you want to pull out of nafta today, you can be disappointed. What about this idea that he might not believe in anything . That hell say anything. We could have played 45 minutes of tape of him railing against nafta. A deal signed by president cleanse and supported by hillary. Trade creates strange bedfellows but nafta was up there with the wall in terms of something that even Donald Trumps detractors thought he believed in. He did not run as an ideology guy. He ran as a results guy. And the economic nationalism was a kind of theme. And yes, did he rail against nafta. I think the bigger problem for him is, where are the deals . When will he start making these great deals that he promised to make . So if you said, well, okay, well stick with nafta but make it work in some way that is better for you. Mr. And mrs. Rust belt. And i dont see that. Maybe he has something in his pocket that he can reveal but i doubt it. You have to be fair to him and give him more time. If you see what he did with china, you see he had good diplomatic skills. So he cant do it. I dont think that would be a fair statement to make. Whether it was obama or bush. Let it play out. Let me jump in. Thats only right and fair. You and i worked for the same president. The legislation with the late ted kennedy. He passed it by partisan tax cut. Hang on. It is indisputed look. We both love the same president bush but facts are facts. Ari, is this president on track . It was not signed into law until may. Is this president on track . Is he making as much as the last three president s . I think it depends what youre looking at. The Supreme Court is a huge success for conservatives and republicans. And h should be given that. Health care reform was a tremendous setback. A huge play for the nation and who, are you giving President Trump for the drop in absolutely. Youd Better Believe it. The reason people arent coming to the borders is because donald trump is the president. Not everything comes down to legislation. Give him credit where hes due credit. And you think he deserves credit for the way hes dealt with legislation . Kouth he has sent well cooked, well thought out legislation to congress . Do you think paul ryan thinks he has a good partner in donald trump . Republicans have believed in for years yes. On health care reform. I think the president was the one pushing for it. It was a failure inside the House Republican congress the unify. If theyre not able to unify in the second goaround, whats the point in having republicans control the house . What is the point if you cant govern . The first time i can remember having that discussion. One of the realities of donald trump is, yes, he was a republican on the ballot last year. He was a political hind got control of the Republican Party through the voters of the Republican Party and against the wishes of the leadership. What i see there is you got tug of war going on behind the scenes. Youve got people like steve bannon saying youre right its the worst deal youve got to get us out of that. The Goldman Sachs guys he brought in too. A gary cohn telling him no. You blow this up, theres going to be repercussions. Its not an administration that has a clear focus. Hold these thoughts. When we come back, were going to talk about a field trip to the white house. I did not get the sense that a military confrontation is imminent, unless kim jongun chooses to force one. Im not that optimistic were going to be able to stop their Steady Development of these technologies. But i was encouraged there was a plan laid out. Welcome back to the 11th hour. That was democratic senator discussing the Briefing Held today on the white house grounds. Earlier today i spoke to angus king and we began by discussing the threat north korea poses. This is probably the most serious Foreign Policy question were facing right now and i think the administration is going about it in the right way. Theyre really focusing on marshaling our diplomatic assets. The secretary of state is convening a meeting this friday at the u. N. But the key to it all, nicole, has got to be china. 90 of north koreas trade is with china and china has to decide that its not in their interest to have a Nuclear Armed rogue state right on their border. Now, i know you cant talk about any of the intelligence thats been shared but did the administration ask for you all to make the case for our allies and our friends in the region to be more involved and more aggressive . I think the purpose of the briefing and i think well, the purpose was to give us the information and i think also it was to have the senate understand the stakes, the strategy and sort of whats going on here in order to try to develop some kind of unified message. I think you know around the world the president speaks with one voice that congress has many voices. Burt i think that was one reason for having this meeting. We have these briefings quite frequently. We had one three weeks ago on the syria strike. Usually theyre up here, not usually at the white house. I suspect the reason this was at the white house was the president and the Vice President were there. And i think that was to underline the seriousness of this issue. You also have been proving your independence by defending the Senate Intelligence committee from charges that its moving too slowly and failed to appoint fulltime staffers to the russia administration. I wonder if you are anxious to see more information or for the white house to be more forthcoming when it comes to documents details someone like mike flynns contacts with russia . Were going to get the information one way or another but it would be helpful if it was forthcoming. My experience in public life is you cant keep something secret forever so lets get to the bottom of it. We have nine staff people working on this. They are members of the regular Committee Staff but theyre essentially detailed to this project. Theyre spending nights and weekends at the cia, working on it virtually 24 hours a day. Im satisfied were making sufficient progress. Everyone would like it to go faster. I would rathver it be right than fast, nicole. I think were going to have to beef up the staff, perhaps bring on some prosecutorial experience, make sure were asking the right questions when we get to the witness stage. But right now we have unprecedented access to the documents, we have a room at the cia, members are there, staffs there. Its never as fast as anybody would like. You talked about how you can never keep secrets forever. You think there are people inputs orbit who are keeping secrets from the Senate Intelligence committee at this moment . We havent started to interview those people yet, so i cant say theyre keeping anything. Some of them have actually talked about coming forward but i think with general flynn for example, he talked about coming forward voluntarily if he could get immunity and i dont think thats likely, at least not from our committee. Thats one of the complications is were conducting this investigation and dont forget the fbi is also conducting an investigation on what may have occurred between the Trump Campaign and the russians. We dont want to step on what theyre doing, we dont want to give a witness immunity that would compromise their investigation. But ill tell you what im determined to get to the bottom of it and i think the important thing i want to convey is this is not a partisan deal. If you had sat in our meeting yesterday afternoon where we were discussing this at length. It was a closed meeting of the Intelligence Committee, you could not have told who were republicans, democrats, and independents by our questions, by our comments. We have a unified purpes to get to the bottom of this. I think all of us feel were living history right now and we dont want to shurk that responsibility. I can tell you straight forward this is not a partisan investigation, a white wash or a witch hunt. If it starts to fall apart, invite me on and ill tell you that. Standing invitation for you. Any night. Thank you so much, senator, for being with us. We appreciate your time. Thank you, nicole. Nice to meet you. Jeremy was the chief of staff that pentagon and the cia. What to you make of the rather measured reaction . It sounds like the whole Team Presented the whole senate with material that left them without a complete picture. On process this is a bit theatrical. Has it ever happened before . It has. Have they ever created a secure briefing location on the white house grounds . They may have done that before but probably did not reveal very sensitive information. Theyre going to do the exact same briefing for 445 members of the house. You cant give the deepest, darkest secrets to 535 members of the congress. They said weve ruled out preemptive military a, regime change and basically where theyve landed is the same place the Obama Administration landed and the Bush Administration landed which is coercive strategies. The only different aspect are the macho tweets by the president in april. He said if china doesnt take care of the problem, we will, u. S. A. , implying preemptive military action. That is concerning and dangerous because that could cause miscalculation by kim jongun. And he could do something even before were ready. And could deflate chinas enthusiasm to be a good partner. I want to turn to russia because you were saying a couple days ago the same thing were hearing now about this committee not being stalled out completely. You should be able to do both, a good investigation and a speedy investigation. What are the perils of losing momentum . Remember, there are two faces. The first is to analyze what did russia do in our election . Both sides are moving with deliberate speed on that. Its the second phase that will be the test of that integrity. And one thing that im concerned about that investigators are not looking hard enough at are the financial ties between russian oligarchs and the trump organization. This is important because not listing the fact that those financial ties may have been appropriate or unlawful back in the day. The point is russia may have used those ties in the campaign to leverage people in the trump inner circle. They didnt just give up after election day. This goes on and the senate and the house are going to have to look very carefully about what russia is doing even today. When we come back, this is going to be huge. Weve got Steve Kornacki at the big beautiful wall. And the urinary symptoms of bph. Tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. 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This is the first possible interpretation. If you look at the numbers, its pretty basic. His