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MSNBCW The 11th Hour With Brian Williams June 28, 2017

He doesnt do this often. But today he pulled back on the bill. Its been delayed until after the july 4th recess. Then the Senate Republicans got on a bus and went to the white house where they sat around a giant table with the president , who was notably book ended by two of the plans critics collins of maine a no vote, a murkz ever alaska who was called out by name by the president who added if they cant make a deal thats okay. I thought id ask you folks to come say hello and well discuss health care. We have really no choice but to solve this situation. Obamacare is a total disaster. Its melting down as we speak preponderates are going up. In fact its very interesting youre sitting next to me bus in alaska it was 206 . A 206 increase in alaska. This will be great if we get it done. And if we dont get it done its just going to be something that were not going to like and thats okay. And i understand that very well. But i think we have a chance to do something very, very important for the public, very, very important for the people of our country that we love. And as the senators left the would you say, Mitch Mcconnell laid out whats next for this bill. Were kinning to work on reaching an agreement that will involve continue the discussion to the end of the week. And well not be turning to the bill on the floor of the senate until a couple of weeks after this week. After about that Washington Post story out tonight, the answer to their own headline of who is afraid of trump is, not enough republicans, at least for now. They say, quote, trump has had hoped for a swift and easy win on health care this week. Instead i got a delay and return to the northbounding table. The laftsry mind of the limits of his power to shape outcomes at the opposite end of pennsylvania avenue. The New York Times reported the style along with people like steve bannon was not helpful to the process in the senate where, again, republicans own the majority. Their effort to repeal and replace obamacare started the day president obama signed the Affordable Care act along with its marketing slogan and its promise to the American People. I can tell you with regard to the to the campaign that will continue with the American People, i think the slogan will be repeal and replace. Repeal and replace. We have to do everything we can to try to repeal this bill and replace it with common sense reforms. That will bring down the cost of Health Insurance and expand access for more americans. And so its critical that we replace that we repeal obamacare and by the way, also replace it. We need to repeal and replace obamacare with a better system. We are going to repeal obamacare we are going to replace obamacare with something so much better. How many obamacare a certified job killer it needs to be repealed and replaced. We should shall fighting obamacare pmt replace going with something different. Senator. I will repeal every word of obamacare. Thank you. Tonight i also calling on this congress to repeal and replace obamacare. A little look at where weve been going back to march of 2010. Lets bring in tonights starting panel. Robert costa, National Political reporter for the Washington Post. Host of Washington Week on pbs. Phillip rucker White House Bureau chief for the Washington Post. By the way it was robert and phillip and Ashley Parker who wrote and reported tonights Washington Post piece. We also welcome erica anwarer to the broadcaster, congressional reporter for the associated press. So, robert is it too early to do what the pentagon calls bda, the Battle Damage assessment and kind of sum up what has happened here just today . The republican agenda, particularly on health care remains stalled. Its in leader mcconnells hands to figure out if he can get moderates snar from alaska and senator collins of may and along with senator cruz and lee. I was at the capitol all day. He needs more time and the president can be helpful to an extent. Buts in a Senate Problem that has a senate solution about tweaking the medicaid provisions, about tweaking how the waivers happen. Different aspects need to be changed. It doesnt take a phone call necessarily from the president. Phillip your headline asks this. A question who is afraid of trump . Id like to hear you riff on the answer and what you uncovered along the way. Well, the answer is nobody, or not enough republicans rather, at least for now. The problem is that a lot of president s in order to successful for history have been both feared and reveered. There is a consensus forming in washington from republican fixers that bob and ashley and i are talking to all the time that trump is neither. And thats a problem. Because the president is not able to govern with a hammer on capitol hill, especially with the senate and be able to really dictate the terms of what he wants done and get his agenda through. Rather the senators are making their own personal calculations and their own decisions about these policies. And phillip whenever we turn to this subject we think of modern day example like lyndon johnson. Yeah. An outsized texan, formerly majority leader of the senate used to call his friend dig Russell Everett dirkson. He was popular in the Police Coming out of a National Tragedy and all the members of the senate were wary about crossing him. And we just dont have that right now. In part its because of the president s only political problems. His Approval Rating as of today in the gal up daily tracking poll stands at 39 . So more americans disprove of his performance than approve. Thats not exactly a political threat to some of the senators. But its beyond that. Its his lack of clear sort of key heernt focus on a specific issue. He is not driving a message, not out there explaining to the American People why this particular Health Care Bill is powerful. And another thing to keep in mind is what he had to say after the house bill. He had the big rose garden ceremony after that vote. And then he privately said that that bill was mean. And that sent a signal to the lawmakers on capitol hill that he is not necessarily going to have their back. So erica, what a bus ride that must have been for all the republicans in the senate down to the white house. You were in the room when the media were allowed in for what we call a pool spray until the president made it clear you werent allowed in there anymore. We were looking at the available video for the body language. Describe what you were able to see. Right. Well i actually was covering the hill. And on the hill today. But in that room a kind of strange setup with that very large table and all of those senators arrayed around it. Not a lot of happy expressions there. Kind of grim and glum faces. And as you played earlier, the president sitting in between senator collins and senator myrhhkowski, two of his critics among the senate gop. The senator from alaska did not look please the when he name checked her. Trump makes the odd comment suggesting well it would be great if we pass it but if we dont, oh, well. Where does it go from here . As you were playing earlier we have seven years worth of clips and promises that theyre going to get in dunn. But until recently, until the president was elected there was never anything behind it. They never thought they would have to. As weve come to find out they really didnt know how to. Still dont know how to so well see what happens. Brian. Yes robert. I was walking out of the capitol with senator collins before she confronts this whole array of cameras she tells me the president has a problem in ujds the congress. She is a veteran of the u. S. Senate. And she said in her respectful maine way the president just hasnt been here in washington. He doesnt understand how to make the case. Its not that he is necessarily making the wrong case. He is just not making the case in the normal way the senators expect from the white house. And you saw some perplexed faces in the room that arinigaa was describing. The problem for the white house is what erica was mentioning. The republican senators were all talking to are a little bit confused by the president s statement that maybe it if it all falls apart and the Insurance Markets falls apart that republicans can blame democrats. Privately most of them say they dont buy the argument coming from the other side of pennsylvania avenue. Theyre going to have an answer if obamacare facilitiers because theyre the party in power. I want to ask the control room also to ready up the exchange with senator myrhhkowski on the hill, one of the more dramatic moments of the day on our air. While i read this piece of almost anticipatable reporting from our friends at the New York Times tonight, glenn tlush and jonathan martin. A senator who supports the bill left the meeting at the white house with a sense that the president did not have a grasp of some basic elements of the senate plan. Seemed especially kufrd when a moderate republican complained that opponents of the bill would cast it as a massive tax break for the wealth. According to an aide who received a detailed read outof the exchange. Mr. Trump said he planned to tackle tax reform later ignoring the repeals tax implications, the staff member added. Erica how alive or dead do you think this Senate Health care plan . I would say that its in limb o right now. Maybe more dead than alive. Senate leaders wanted it to get it done this week as early as this morning senator cornyn the number two republicans was pledging the votes would happen this week. And thats partly because they are heading into a recess. The july 4th recess when a lot of lawmakers will be home in their districts, attending parades, et cetera. And a piece of legislation like this does not tend to improve over time. It is likely only getting harder for some of the lawmakers to get to yes as they encounter pushback in some waists from constituents at home. But ner in a bind because of the promises on this and the fact that the gop base may punish them if they dont deliver. And phil to your point earlier, the president s comment after all the hull a boo lieu on the house version in the house version in the end he found it to be mean opinion the newtering remark at the end of the press availability. If we cant get a deal well live with that. That must be driving some of the republicans crazy. It is certainly. And the other thing that is bothering some of the republicans is that the president just doesnt have command over the policy details. And thats in that the excerpt you read from the New York Times peace but we hear it too. He wants a win. He wants something to sign. He wants to be able to tell the American People he changed obamacare. But he is not engrossed in the details. He has not studied up on health care as is an issue when he has the private conversations with senators. They tend to focused on the sort of big picture, macro, aspect of this. A win a loss. The politics. Without getting into the nittygritty and you know thats troubling for some of the senators. And some of them are very much engrossed in these details and confronting it and dealing with it day to day. Robert i want you to react to the following. This was something of a moment that occurred on Live Television today. The senator of alaska was walking on the capitol ground with what appeared to be a group of senate pages when our buddy garrett haik of the Washington Bureau went there on the b word, bipartisan, what process the democrats got involved . Hear now his his question and her answer. You still have folks in your caucus who want to repeal obamacare root and branch. You got other folks saying maybe there is ways to work with democrats on this. Would you be a proponent to try to work across some of the ace toll make some of the fixes. Absolutely. When did we get to the point where we said no were not going to talk to democrats about a fix . We should be working with our colleagues on the other side of the aisle. We should be working with colleagues in the other chamber. Robert costa, is that ever going to happen . I think it may, brian. Senator miles an hour koukdss comments are part of a small but growing consensus in the senate goch appear house gop that the Affordable Care act has become a Major Health Care law likely here to stay and that there republicans may want to take it out as garrett said by root and branch. But thats probably not political or logistical reality at this moment. And if that is the case can they make an argument to the Republican Base that its just not possible to do frgt to take it oul all away and maybe you could come back to the table especially with a nonideological president who wants to cut deals and do something more incremental even if its not full repeal. That seems to be an ambition thats that an outcome of this flawed stalled process in the senate. Erica i can give you 30 seconds. I saw you nodding no is that because if the enacts get involved there is a chance they may own it. Its because senator mcconnell ruled it out for this round at least. But as robert indicated, they may end up with no choice. If they are not able to pass their legislation theyre left with obamacare and obamacare needs to be fixed. Everyone agrees. So they may have to do it that. And phil while im handing out time. 30 seconds how to you. How is energy week going at the white house . That was this weeks theme. Well, it is this weeks theme actually the white house has been sticking to weekly themes. We had infrastructure week last week was technology week. Its a way to sort of focus the white house agenda and really drive something thats not russia. But weve heard very little about energy that the big Performance Today Wasabi Energy secretary rick perry the former governor of texas but he didnt make the news. The lead off panel, Phillip Rucker robert, erica. Thank you. As we reproach the first break, will republicans come back with a bill they can agree on . Well talk with one of the senators who met with the president in the room where it happened today. How he is feeling about the chances tonight when the 11th hour continues. I need the phone thats where i happen to be. To be the one that rings. I need not to be missed phone calls. To not be missed. I need seamless handoff. Canyon software. From reception, to landline, to mobile. I need one number. Not two. Im always moving forward. Because i cant afford to get stuck in the past. Comcast business. Built for business. Welcome back to the 11th hour. Here to talk about the gop decision to wait to vote on the Health Care Bill in the senate, a real live republican member of the us senate has joined us this evening. South Dakota Republican senator mike rounds. Senator thank you for being with us. First off, did you leave the white house meeting with any concerns about the president s level of detail and knowledge . I was actually surprised that he had a pretty good handle on a number of of items that were in the bill. He doesnt have a handle on everything. But nobody does. Some of us have read the bill over several times and still got questions. Were still trying to get answers. But he clearly understood the basics on it. He clearly understood a number of items we were trying to put in that would try to get more people to buy insurance. He had obviously been involved in that. I went on your website tonight. If i read it correctly i dont see a townhall of any kind scheduled for the upcoming break. Perhaps thats going to change. What do you expect to hear when you go home to south dakota . And more importantly what do you have to tell the folks of south dakota, the single mom worried her Breast Cancer going to come back . Pier south dakota, the Senior Citizen thinking about the diabetes and cost in rapid city and so on. A couple of things. Because a number of of those items have come up in the in the coffees we do around the state. Some of them as many as three hundred people in them. The concerns were number one what are we trying to do with the Health Care Plan . Are we going to repeople and replace obamacare . And we explained to them, yes but we with he do it we want to do this one right. Were actually going to read the bill before we pass it into law. Thats one of the reasons for the delay right now. Second part of this is this this if were toing it right we want to respect all the different segments of society impacted by it. 8 of gdp means a lot of people are compacted. People on medicaid, people not on medicaid but have a very low income. Individuals who have a higher income but maybe have a an illness which is keeping them away from insurance unless they are protected or already have insurance. So all of those different types of things fall into this thing. The plan weve got is to bring premiums down. Now the plan and nobody is claiming its perfect but this one does reduce premiums by about 30 by the year 20. So weve got some room to work with on this one. And when we talk to folks back there in south dakota they have theyre concerned about cancer they may have a child with a serious illness we tell them number one we want insurance in the future that will have guaranteed portability, renewability. And if you have a preexisting condition and you stay with your insurance policy you will never have to worry about that preexisting condition and finally, even if you have a major illness, our plans all provide that you will have continuous coverage where you cant lose the maximum amounts. In other words if one policy says were only going to 2 million there is an

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