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7 00 which means we have the great music starting to play at 7 00. But you still continue to get some special debate preview coverage from alary mel ber, the beat starts right now. Good evening, ari. Good evening, chuck. Well be watching. Big night for you and for the country. I am ari melber here live this evening from miami. Thrilled to be with you. We with three hours away from the first democratic debate of 2020 where the candidates face off on their vision,ed border crisis and the return of Robert Miller as House Democrats announce he will publicly testify before congress july 17th. This reignites the partys clash over obstruction and whether to open an Impeachment Probe. Tonight voters are likely to see the democrats internal battles over this issue because while nancy pelosi and most of the house caucus do not back impeachment, of the ten candidates debating tonight, seven do back impeachment hearings. Many see the push from muellers public testimony as the last effort to make that happen. I have called on the house to initiate Impeachment Proceedings. I would support Impeachment Proceedings beginning now. I believe this president should be impeached. We have a moral obligation now to investigate this president. Thats the last straw. They should begin Impeachment Proceedings. No president , not donald trump or anyone else is a king. We have to hold those responsible accountable and the only method we can doing that is for our representative in congress to begin Impeachment Proceedings. Thats what the debate sounds like. A preview of what may come tonight. A big issue. Im joined by Joakim Castro supporting his twin brother julian. He bes on the Intelligence Committee. Im joined by Michael Steele and aisha moodie mills. Good to be with you. First question to you, is it important that bob mueller testify before your committee . What do you want to hear from him and will it come up tonight . Its absolutely critical he testify. He put his report out. There are a lot of americans that have not read the report or sought out the report. I see this as part of the process. Him coming in front of the Intelligence Committee and the Judiciary Committee to tell us about the report and for me, im specifically looking at the ten instances of Obstruction Of Justice that he laid out against the president because i think thats most likely to be the subject of an Impeachment Inquiry. Do you think that will be a point of distinction on the stage tonight and tomorrow . Perhaps. I dont know where everybody is in terms of open ing an Impeachment Inquiry. There may be various opinions over there. In congress, ive said we should open an Impeachment Inquiry. Theres a greater cost to the country of doing nothing. A greater cost to the rule of law of not opening Impeachment Inquiry. I hope we do have a lively debate on that. Let me push you on one more thing. This is as you and others emphasized its about facts, the criminal evidence against donald trump and what if Anything Congress wants to do about it. Theres also politics here. Do you hope given your position that more 2020 candidates tonight and tomorrow will push for this . Because you dont even have right now a majority of your caucus agreeing with you on starting an obstruction Impeachment Probe . I hope they will. Im a member of the Intelligence Committee and i sat through dozens of interviews where the information came out a lot that the bob mueller did. This is about standing up for our democracy and rule of law. I absolutely hope that our candidates will be for opening inquiry. Should i ask you who you hope wins tonight . I there you know the answer to that. Im glad to be in the audience and not on the stage. Aisha, take a listen to bob mueller himself offering the explanation for why this is had to be what adam schiff characterized last night as an you be friendly subpoena but also what provides i think pause to some democrats what youre going to get from him. Take a look. I hope and expect this to be the own time that i will speak to you in in manner. We chose those words kerr there and work speaks for itself. And the report is my testimony. Does that give democrats some pause for what theyre going to get out of this hearing . Well, i think it would be interesting if he actually got up there and opened up his entire report and just started reading from and said why dont you go to section 2, page blah, blah, blah. I think it doesnt really matter because having him in his own voice, whether he is reading verbatim what he already wrote or having a new conversation explaining what he wrote is what the American People need to see. They need to understand methodically whats going through his mind in a way that themselves reading it is never going to give us the full energy of that. If its just forcing him to say like i said on page 932, the fact he in his own voice is saying it will be a powerful visual for us to hold on to. Michael steele, im curious what you think about how this all plays out. Understand washington. But claims mot to have a been completely corrupted by it. I have not been. Here we are in miami and its easy to get distracted by the next thing. Bob muellers remergence clearly hangs over tonight and tomorrow nights debate. Donald trump doesnt like other people upstaging him on television. All of that is true. For the candidates tonight and tomorrow, it will be a matter of how do they contextize this whole emerging story with mueller, this new emerging story with mueller. Certainly against what we already know. For the president , however, this is a moment where again, he doesnt want to the necessarily share the limelight. But this will be one of his pimp my tweet moments where hes going to get out and going at it all over the place. What the American People have to understand and appreciate that this is not that moment. For the first time were going to actually hear the man deliver in his own words what he wrote. Isnt Bob Barr Contextizing and telling us what to think and feel about what it is weve read or understand. It is about mueller himself putting not just his experience on the line but giving us the new abses. Thats going to come out in questioning i think. For the democrats and because we know the republicans will play you know, build the wall around trump. We know that. But for the democrats this is not about the gotcha. This is about explanation and digging into the essence of why mueller did what he did and why he didnt do some of the things he should have. Why he didnt do say he should have and a lot of people say its substantial evidence in five or more incidents of the crime of obstruction, then why did it end in a way that left so much i think good faith and obviously exploited misinterpretation. Can you get bob mueller, do you think in this hearing, by you the royal you, your committees, to tell us what he meant by substantial evidence, did substantial evidence mean the president did bad things but at the end of the day, we dont do much with just evidence . We have a higher criminal standard when prosecutors or does substantial evidence mean, hey, hey, youre the sitting president. You repeatedly subverted the rule of law in a way that any other person would have been charged for. Do you think you can get that answer out of mueller . I think we can get his understanding what that means. An important part as michael said is the back and forth and the questioning that will go on and even if he was just reading different parts, i think the questions will elicit significant and important pieces of this report in a way that youre just not going to get if you just throw a few hundred page report and say guys, go ahead and read it. Do you think the chairs handled this well or should they have gotten him in front of the committee far earlier . Michael mentions the bill barr of it all. A lot of americans have the vague sense that this is sort of past. I think that both adam schiff, my chairman and jerry nadler have been very judicious and tried to follow legal processes. But im glad they finally have Robert Mueller coming to testify in a few weeks. Okay. Aisha take a listen to the president today who, and this is rare for him, seemed a little bit at a loss for a counterpunch on this issue. And sort of just said when will it ever stop. If youre not following this every day, when will it ever stop . It hasnt started, bob mueller barely speaks. Take a look. Will you try to block Robert Mueller from testifying . I dont know anything about it. I just heard. And my only response to mueller is does it ever stop . After all of these years and times and people, does it ever stop . This is a diversion. But i ask you this, does it ever stop . So lets be really clear who hes talking to, to his audience at fox news so thats going to be the sound bite that the americans following him get where theyre saying my god, this is going to be a witch hunt. Will it ever stop. Its not him being at a loss of words. Its him doing good pr and spin. I have met three different people who were strangers who said i had no idea, one, what was actually in the Mueller Report that there was any question about whether trump did anything that had any impropriety to it. I never heard this before and two, i feel like this is kinds of over. Why are we still talking about it. Its because of those Talking Points that become sound bites that his people see that hes using really thoughtfully that hes able to continue to own a lot of narrative and democrats arent necessarily owning in the way they should. Bill barr reminds me when it comes to the report and how he presented it to the country, your teenage son who comes in at bhid night and you ask him how the evening went. Said its fine, dad, i had a little fenderbender and everythings fine. And you go out in the morning and the fenders gone. What someone tells you and what you see and hear is a big difference. For the first time, the differences are cleared out and you get to hear unobstructed what he thought, what he knows, how he perceived it and that threatens the president s narrative and what youre going to see while the president and fox and others are already starting to it out it, theres nothing here. When does this end, well, yeah. It doesnt end on the 17th. It actually begins because now the American People will be tuning in and listening and hearing for the first time. That goes to the final thing. When you look at tonights debate, big picture, should your stance on impeaching donald trump and obstruction be a litmus test for the Democratic Party at this point given how strongly people feel about the way the president has led and subverted the rule of law . Is there consequence for that or to paraphrase, you Remember Debrat Great Female rapper talking about things being so funktified. Theres a concern the democratic primary has become so funktified they need to move beyond and show a vision on that. My brother who is running for president said he wants to the start an Impeachment Inquiry. I dont know it should be a litmus test. Even democrats have different opinions on that. Democrats in congress have different opinions on it. But it is interesting to be able to question tonight the candidates about what it would mean to start an Impeachment Inquiry and also whether they believe it means upholding the rule of law and protecting our democracy. Congressman, thank you for being here. As i say all you surrogates and all candidates good luck. Thank you for being here in big night. Bien venidos. Part of our live coverage. We have a lot more including a serious story obviously gripping the National Conversation right now. The humanitarian crisis which is a very real issue and hangs over the debate. Candidates visiting this facility where the Trump Administration continues to detain immigrant children amidst allegations of abuse and mistreatment. Later my interview on this hour with a contender who is going on stage tonight, govern jay inslee. Well talking to dnc chairman tom perez, plus a look how candidates are getting ready. Cory booker is lifting weights. As i mentioned, a special look inside the debate hall and why debates matter. Im ari melber. Youre watching an the beats special coverage of the first democratic live in miami. Well be right back. Rst democratic live in miami well be right back. You should be mad at tech that makes things worse. But youre not, because you have e trade whose tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. Dont get mad, get e trade. But prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Red lobsters new weekday five days. S here five deals. For Fifteen Dollars get a different deal every weekday til six pm like endless shrimp monday admirals feast tuesday four course feast wednesday and more. Five days. Five deals. Fifteen dollars. See you before six. 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Awesome. Id rather not. Political ends. Which is what the president of the United States is doing here. Amen. We will fight it with everything we have. Thank you all fur being here all this time. Thats senator Elizabeth Warren today protesting what is the nations largest facility right now under the Trump Administrations policy detaining migrant children. Over 2,000 are there, hole stead, florida, 35 minutes from where we are right now where the debate stage she will march on tonight. We expect that to be a possible top pick. Amy klobuchar there also. Immigration is what everyone has been talking about this week in the nation including spur bid this heart breaking image. Warning, this is graphic. Oscar Alberto Ramirez seen with his 23monthold daughter valeria drowned as they were crossing are the rio grande river, a brutal danger of the dangerous the families face. Pete buttigieg will be on the stage saying this. There are no words for there are no words. This is supposed to be the greatest country in the world. And the shocking thing is that part of what makes that possible is fear. As if we have something to be afraid of from a child fleeing violence. Im joined by Alicia Menendez cohost Of Amanpour P and company and Chief Voccing officer for. Raises. A Nonprofit Group that provides Legal Services to immigrants right heres in texas. Given the work youre doing with araices and another americans getting a another view of this, thesigration debates have been going for i long time but the photograph, the inability of the administration to say words out loud saying why they want to deny children so, blankets. Walk you through your views of what should matter on the debate stage tonight. Were seeing what had already been seen in previous administrations for schurz. We have seen a Record Number of deaths and children being imprisoned. You cant call it otherwise. We are seeing that theres more and more people who are dying at the border but also dying in actual hands of Border Patrol agents. So Detention Centers are blowing up with people that theyre exceeding numbers of people in detention. And what i would hope is that we get on the stage a statement from every candidate who are actually acknowledging what was happening also under an Obama Administration who created this machine that was handed over to trump so that he could make it even bigger and stronger. I dont want any more obama type of actions on immigration and i really hope that folks today can address that and that it will be a different type of environment. Are you saying they are the same or merely this built on a blueprint . I would say that you know, that we always say it is that obama created a big, strong Robert Miller<\/a> as House Democrats<\/a> announce he will publicly testify before congress july 17th. This reignites the partys clash over obstruction and whether to open an Impeachment Probe<\/a>. Tonight voters are likely to see the democrats internal battles over this issue because while nancy pelosi and most of the house caucus do not back impeachment, of the ten candidates debating tonight, seven do back impeachment hearings. Many see the push from muellers\rpublic testimony as the last effort to make that happen. I have called on the house to initiate Impeachment Proceedings<\/a>. I would support Impeachment Proceedings<\/a> beginning now. I believe this president should be impeached. We have a moral obligation now to investigate this president. Thats the last straw. They should begin Impeachment Proceedings<\/a>. No president , not donald trump or anyone else is a king. We have to hold those responsible accountable and the only method we can doing that is for our representative in congress to begin Impeachment Proceedings<\/a>. Thats what the debate sounds like. A preview of what may come tonight. A big issue. Im joined by Joakim Castro<\/a> supporting his twin brother julian. He bes on the Intelligence Committee<\/a>. Im joined by Michael Steele<\/a> and aisha moodie mills. Good to be with you. First question to you, is it important that bob mueller testify before your committee . What do you want to hear from him and will it come up tonight . Its absolutely critical he testify. He put his report out. There are a lot of americans that have not read the report or sought out the report. I see this as part of the process. Him coming in front of the Intelligence Committee<\/a> and the Judiciary Committee<\/a> to tell us about the report and for me, im specifically looking at the ten instances of Obstruction Of Justice<\/a> that he laid out against the president because i think thats most likely to be the subject of an Impeachment Inquiry<\/a>. Do you think that will be a point of distinction on the stage tonight and tomorrow . Perhaps. I dont know where everybody is in terms of open ing an Impeachment Inquiry<\/a>. There may be various opinions over there. In congress, ive said we should open an Impeachment Inquiry<\/a>. Theres a greater cost to the country of doing nothing. A greater cost to the rule of law of not opening Impeachment Inquiry<\/a>. I hope we do have a lively debate on that. Let me push you on one more thing. This is as you and others emphasized its about facts, the criminal evidence against donald trump and what if Anything Congress<\/a> wants to do about it. Theres also politics here. Do you hope given your position that more 2020 candidates tonight and tomorrow will push for this . Because you dont even have right now a majority of your caucus agreeing with you on starting an obstruction Impeachment Probe<\/a> . I hope they will. Im a member of the Intelligence Committee<\/a> and i sat through dozens of interviews where the information came out a lot that the bob mueller did. This is about standing up for our democracy and rule of law. I absolutely hope that our candidates will be for opening inquiry. Should i ask you who you hope wins tonight . I there you know the answer to that. Im glad to be in the audience and not on the stage. Aisha, take a listen to bob mueller himself offering the explanation for why this is had to be what adam schiff\rcharacterized last night as an you be friendly subpoena but also what provides i think pause to some democrats what youre going to get from him. Take a look. I hope and expect this to be the own time that i will speak to you in in manner. We chose those words kerr there and work speaks for itself. And the report is my testimony. Does that give democrats some pause for what theyre going to get out of this hearing . Well, i think it would be interesting if he actually got up there and opened up his entire report and just started reading from and said why dont you go to section 2, page blah, blah, blah. I think it doesnt really matter because having him in his own voice, whether he is reading verbatim what he already wrote or having a new conversation explaining what he wrote is what the American People<\/a> need to see. They need to understand methodically whats going through his mind in a way that themselves reading it is never going to give us the full energy\rof that. If its just forcing him to say like i said on page 932, the fact he in his own voice is saying it will be a powerful visual for us to hold on to. Michael steele, im curious what you think about how this all plays out. Understand washington. But claims mot to have a been completely corrupted by it. I have not been. Here we are in miami and its easy to get distracted by the next thing. Bob muellers remergence clearly hangs over tonight and tomorrow nights debate. Donald trump doesnt like other people upstaging him on television. All of that is true. For the candidates tonight and tomorrow, it will be a matter of how do they contextize this whole emerging story with mueller, this new emerging story with mueller. Certainly against what we already know. For the president , however, this is a moment where again, he doesnt want to the necessarily share the limelight. But this will be one of his pimp my tweet moments where hes going to get out and going at it\rall over the place. What the American People<\/a> have to understand and appreciate that this is not that moment. For the first time were going to actually hear the man deliver in his own words what he wrote. Isnt Bob Barr Contextizing<\/a> and telling us what to think and feel about what it is weve read or understand. It is about mueller himself putting not just his experience on the line but giving us the new abses. Thats going to come out in questioning i think. For the democrats and because we know the republicans will play you know, build the wall around trump. We know that. But for the democrats this is not about the gotcha. This is about explanation and digging into the essence of why mueller did what he did and why he didnt do some of the things he should have. Why he didnt do say he should have and a lot of people say its substantial evidence in five or more incidents of the crime of obstruction, then why did it end in a way that left so much i think good faith and obviously exploited misinterpretation. Can you get bob mueller, do you\rthink in this hearing, by you the royal you, your committees, to tell us what he meant by substantial evidence, did substantial evidence mean the president did bad things but at the end of the day, we dont do much with just evidence . We have a higher criminal standard when prosecutors or does substantial evidence mean, hey, hey, youre the sitting president. You repeatedly subverted the rule of law in a way that any other person would have been charged for. Do you think you can get that answer out of mueller . I think we can get his understanding what that means. An important part as michael said is the back and forth and the questioning that will go on and even if he was just reading different parts, i think the questions will elicit significant and important pieces of this report in a way that youre just not going to get if you just throw a few hundred page report and say guys, go ahead and read it. Do you think the chairs handled this well or should they have gotten him in front of the committee far earlier . Michael mentions the bill barr of it all. A lot of americans have the vague sense that this is sort of past. I think that both adam schiff, my chairman and jerry nadler have been very judicious and tried to follow legal processes. But im glad they finally have Robert Mueller<\/a> coming to testify in a few weeks. Okay. Aisha take a listen to the president today who, and this is rare for him, seemed a little bit at a loss for a counterpunch on this issue. And sort of just said when will it ever stop. If youre not following this every day, when will it ever stop . It hasnt started, bob mueller barely speaks. Take a look. Will you try to block Robert Mueller<\/a> from testifying . I dont know anything about it. I just heard. And my only response to mueller is does it ever stop . After all of these years and times and people, does it ever stop . This is a diversion. But i ask you this, does it ever\rstop . So lets be really clear who hes talking to, to his audience at fox news so thats going to be the sound bite that the americans following him get where theyre saying my god, this is going to be a witch hunt. Will it ever stop. Its not him being at a loss of words. Its him doing good pr and spin. I have met three different people who were strangers who said i had no idea, one, what was actually in the Mueller Report<\/a> that there was any question about whether trump did anything that had any impropriety to it. I never heard this before and two, i feel like this is kinds of over. Why are we still talking about it. Its because of those Talking Points<\/a> that become sound bites that his people see that hes using really thoughtfully that hes able to continue to own a lot of narrative and democrats arent necessarily owning in the way they should. Bill barr reminds me when it comes to the report and how he presented it to the country,\ryour teenage son who comes in at bhid night and you ask him how the evening went. Said its fine, dad, i had a little fenderbender and everythings fine. And you go out in the morning and the fenders gone. What someone tells you and what you see and hear is a big difference. For the first time, the differences are cleared out and you get to hear unobstructed what he thought, what he knows, how he perceived it and that threatens the president s narrative and what youre going to see while the president and fox and others are already starting to it out it, theres nothing here. When does this end, well, yeah. It doesnt end on the 17th. It actually begins because now the American People<\/a> will be tuning in and listening and hearing for the first time. That goes to the final thing. When you look at tonights debate, big picture, should your stance on impeaching donald trump and obstruction be a litmus test for the Democratic Party<\/a> at this point given how\rstrongly people feel about the way the president has led and subverted the rule of law . Is there consequence for that or to paraphrase, you Remember Debrat Great Female<\/a> rapper talking about things being so funktified. Theres a concern the democratic primary has become so funktified they need to move beyond and show a vision on that. My brother who is running for president said he wants to the start an Impeachment Inquiry<\/a>. I dont know it should be a litmus test. Even democrats have different opinions on that. Democrats in congress have different opinions on it. But it is interesting to be able to question tonight the candidates about what it would mean to start an Impeachment Inquiry<\/a> and also whether they believe it means upholding the rule of law and protecting our democracy. Congressman, thank you for being here. As i say all you surrogates and all candidates good luck. Thank you for being here in big night. Bien venidos. Part of our live coverage. We have a lot more including a serious story obviously gripping the National Conversation<\/a> right now. The humanitarian crisis which is a very real issue and hangs over the debate. Candidates visiting this facility where the Trump Administration<\/a> continues to detain immigrant children amidst allegations of abuse and mistreatment. Later my interview on this hour with a contender who is going on stage tonight, govern jay inslee. Well talking to dnc chairman tom perez, plus a look how candidates are getting ready. Cory booker is lifting weights. As i mentioned, a special look inside the debate hall and why debates matter. Im ari melber. Youre watching an the beats\rspecial coverage of the first democratic live in miami. Well be right back. Rst democratic live in miami well be right back. You should be mad at tech that makes things worse. But youre not, because you have e trade whose tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. Dont get mad, get e trade. But prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Red lobsters new weekday five days. S here five deals. For Fifteen Dollars<\/a> get a different deal every weekday til six pm like endless shrimp monday admirals feast tuesday four course feast wednesday and more. Five days. Five deals. Fifteen dollars. See you before six. [ Text Notification<\/a> now that you have] new dr. Scholls Massaging Gel<\/a> advanced insoles with softer, bouncier gel waves, youll move over 10 more than before. Dr. Scholls. Born to move. Mmm, exactly ug Liberty Mutual<\/a> customizes your Car Insurance<\/a>, so you only pay for what you need. Nice but uh, whats up with your partner . Oh we just spend all day telling everyone how we customize Car Insurance<\/a> because no two people are alike, so. Limu gets a little confused when he sees another bird that looks exactly like him. Ya. Hell figure it out. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. We like drip coffee, layovers and waiting on hold. What we dont like is relying on fancy technology for help. Snail mail we were invited to a y2k party. Uh, didnt that happen, like, 20 years ago . Oh, look, karolyn, weve got a mathematician on our hands check it out now you can schedule a callback or reschedule an appointment, even on nights and weekends. Todays xfinity service. Simple. Easy. Awesome. Id rather not. Political ends. Which is what the president of the United States<\/a> is doing here. Amen. We will fight it with everything we have. Thank you all fur being here all\rthis time. Thats senator Elizabeth Warren<\/a> today protesting what is the nations largest facility right now under the Trump Administration<\/a>s policy detaining migrant children. Over 2,000 are there, hole stead, florida, 35 minutes from where we are right now where the debate stage she will march on tonight. We expect that to be a possible top pick. Amy klobuchar there also. Immigration is what everyone has been talking about this week in the nation including spur bid this heart breaking image. Warning, this is graphic. Oscar Alberto Ramirez<\/a> seen with his 23monthold daughter valeria drowned as they were crossing are the rio grande river, a brutal danger of the dangerous the families face. Pete buttigieg will be on the stage saying this. There are no words for there are no words. This is supposed to be the greatest country in the world. And the shocking thing is that\rpart of what makes that possible is fear. As if we have something to be afraid of from a child fleeing violence. Im joined by Alicia Menendez<\/a> cohost Of Amanpour P<\/a> and company and Chief Voccing<\/a> officer for. Raises. A Nonprofit Group<\/a> that provides Legal Services<\/a> to immigrants right heres in texas. Given the work youre doing with araices and another americans getting a another view of this, thesigration debates have been going for i long time but the photograph, the inability of the administration to say words out loud saying why they want to deny children so, blankets. Walk you through your views of what should matter on the debate stage tonight. Were seeing what had already\rbeen seen in previous administrations for schurz. We have seen a Record Number<\/a> of deaths and children being imprisoned. You cant call it otherwise. We are seeing that theres more and more people who are dying at the border but also dying in actual hands of Border Patrol<\/a> agents. So Detention Centers<\/a> are blowing up with people that theyre exceeding numbers of people in detention. And what i would hope is that we get on the stage a statement from every candidate who are actually acknowledging what was happening also under an Obama Administration<\/a> who created this machine that was handed over to trump so that he could make it even bigger and stronger. I dont want any more obama type of actions on immigration and i really hope that folks today can address that and that it will be a different type of environment. Are you saying they are the same or merely this built on a\rblueprint . I would say that you know, that we always say it is that obama created a big, strong Immigration Enforcement<\/a> machine that was taken by trump and that was made even bigger. Right . So to me or to us in the immigrant communities really trying to figure out what are they going to do different . How are they going to stop detention of immigrants, how are they going to stop the treatment of children in this way at the border and how are we going to solve the problem . People are fleeing for a reason. What are they doing to solve the problem and not recreating another you know, like i said obama was a democrat and today we have a democratic debate. Elisia, she makes a nonpartisan point and this comes up often with executive power. If all you say is you might trust the person you like more with a war power or a Detention Power<\/a> or a have an aggressive deportation approach, what happens when someone takes it\rover and goes even further . What do you think the democrats need to do on this issue tonight. I want to say someone like erica has been ringing the alarm going back as long as i have been following this issue. A lot of people did not follow her lead and think it would lead us here. Part of what youre going to see on the debate stage tonight are candidates who have proposals, only two on the stage. Julian castro was the first out the door with it, came out with it in april. The big thing there is it decriminalizing it crossing of the u. S. mexico boarder. Bet taupe orourke has a plan. There are some differences between their plans but both largely comprehensive. Tomorrow night well hear from Kamala Harris<\/a> who has a plan. The big thing ill hear from advocates is a question of priority. Its one thing to say this is going to be the number one, number two issue in my\radministration and in a tight rope for democrats to walk especially when they see the Polling Numbers<\/a> that people are most upset about the economy and affordability and know you how to prioritize an issue like this. The democratics first debate is here in florida, what does that say. Florida is must win for republicans. Democrats have a pathway to victory that does not run through florida. But if you want to win florida as a democrat, you need to make sure you are winning the latino vote in florida. Theres no one latino voter in florida. There are a lot of people directly impacted by immigration, Immigration Enforcement<\/a>, people who live in communities affected by it see it as an attack on community at large. There are venezuelans for whom venezuela is a major issue. Puerto ricans for whom the recovery is a major issue. Theres no one Silver Bullet<\/a> message that breaks through to all. As youre both speaking, viewers may see something you dont see something behind you,\rthe security, the scrum, the media. We saw the dnc chairman doing a Live Press Conference<\/a> and we have a candidate about to join our program. Thats what folks may be seeing behind you for context. When you look at these two nights, do you see something that comes out of it that moves the Democratic Party<\/a> . Because are you someone saying if i hear you right, you dont think enough of the Democratic Party<\/a> certainly not the biden obama wing as you see it is where you want them to be on this issue and on what is becoming a humanitarian crisis. People are saying whatever our level, you let in x number or x times two number people. What do we do with human rights and due reinforce to these people when you look at that photograph, are we doing as a Nation Everything<\/a> we can to honor those peoples right to ultimately whether or not they are turned away which every country does tend to turn away some people. Heres the thing. Its triggering for me when i hear the first thing out of a candidate as a mouth i want\rcomprehensive immigration reform. Yes, we need a path to citizenship for people but it has become really an outdated solution in a way and to us, what i want to hear what, are they going to do as a priority for immigration. Theres so much they can doing through the administrative you know, part of the government which is the president can do a lot. To be able to first come into office, what and i going to do in my own power as a president to make sure we do give relief to dreamers beyond what is there now. What we can do to make sure we are closing Detention Centers<\/a>, all these things done at the border can be done by the president but its a matter figuring out how they can start this process without just Talking Points<\/a>. I appreciate your details. This is one of those stories that it comes and recedes and comes back to what are we doing\ras a nation when we see children being mistreated in the custody of the United States<\/a> government, when we see those photos weve seen. Are they doing Everything Possible<\/a> or not in thats an accounting i expect. But i expect it to come up tonight. Thanks to you both. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, ari. Look who is about to walk on the stage here, candidate for office, governor jay inslee. Come on out here. Im going to show everyone youre here. I appreciate you being part of our show tonight before you do the debate. Good to see you. I want to sit down and say well be back in 30 seconds. All right. All right, sir. 0 seconds. All right all right, sir. R. A. I. S. E. R. A. I. S. E. S. Ten candidates will be clash at this first debate tonight. They are some of the partys most famous names like Elizabeth Warren<\/a> but lesser known figures. Washington governor jay inslee. Seven out of ten democrats say theyve never heard of him. But heres the thing about debates. That could change in a few hours tonight when he takes the stage for an event where a lot of democrats are watching. His walk ow through was earlier today. Looking casual. Hes running as the green candidate. Hit the Trump Administration<\/a> on that issue today after touring the everglades. Mike pence said we now have the cleanest air in the world, that theres nothing to worry about from pollution in fossil fuels. Wake up and smell the carbon\rdioxide, mike. And as ive mentioned in this broadcast, this is a rarity but its happening. Jay inslee doing an interview right before tonights debate. A beat exclusive. Thank you for being here. Thanks for bringing truth to america. I like that. So look, most candidates dont even do interviews in the few hours before. We get the benefit. I think its fascinating. Whats in your mind right now . A couple things. I want the story of florida thats being inundated with Sea Level Rise<\/a> which is also the story of our hometown and mine of seattle which is Climate Change<\/a> is ravaging my state. Forest fires have given us the worst quality in the world. We have to make the Climate Crisis<\/a> the top priority of the United States<\/a>. Do you pivot if you get a question about Something Else<\/a> and thats your priority . Youll run to that issue . Not necessarily. Im hopeful we have Climate Change<\/a> questions. Ive got a second story. Im a governor thats succeeded. Ive got the highest minimum wage. We had the greatest teacher pay increase in the United States<\/a>. Ive passed the very First Public Health<\/a> option in the United States<\/a>. Speeches are great. Plans are great. Accomplishments are even better. Ive got a boat load of them in washington state. Let me press you on that. In any other cycle, some of these governors, yourself included would be and i dont say the this in a rude way, but would be taken somehow more seriously by the elites. Maybe it Doesnt Matter<\/a> because the elites are wrong all the time. Whats going on this cycle . Weve got a whole point how this Doesnt Matter<\/a> much. You see biden and Bernie Sanders<\/a> polling and you, tulsi gabbard, amy klobuchar, cory booker around the 1 or twopoint mark. Is that because people are so hungry for folks who havent been in government. I think what it is the centralization of the news\rindustry. Basically people are now watching washington, d. C. Not with Real Progress<\/a> is which is washington state. I think what youre saying is i see your problem and its your fault. But youre doing a great job at it. Thats a fair point. Youre here on the show. We take people from up and down and Dont Discripnate<\/a> based on the polling. But the dnc kick out other governors. Do you think they should be on the stage. I think Steve Bullock<\/a> should have been on the stage. This is what campaigns are for. Im an underdog. Ive always been an underdog and beat a lot of republicans being an underdog. Im more bill clinton and jimmy carter about this stage. Seven out of ten americans never heard my name. Tonight when they hear a person who is going to prioritize Climate Change<\/a> and had one of the most Spectacular Progressive Records<\/a> in the United States<\/a>, im the guy who stood up to you donald trump on the muslim ban and sued him successfully 22 times. Im the guy thats got the first longterm Elder Care Program<\/a> and\rthe first Net Neutrality<\/a> law in the United States<\/a>. Im happy to share that information with people. Let me ask you Something Else<\/a>. When first heard that news alert or however you heard it, bob muellers back, bob mueller is going to come and testify publicly whichize never done since he became special counsel, for your campaign, did you think i dont care, old news . Did you think thats good as an accountability moment or did you think, be honest, gosh these House Democrats<\/a> are stepping on our debate . You want to talk about green jobs and the future. Is that backward looking. What was your reaction. Congress should do its job. It should have full inquiry from any witness who has information. I do believe the Impeachment Issue<\/a> has become inevitable. Meaning . Time to start an Impeachment Inquiry<\/a> in my view. When you say inevitable, you mean pelosi and the drazs will co this president left us no choice. He lies to the American People<\/a> on things big and small. There are many things hes lied about. The fact he told us the air is clean and Climate Change<\/a> is not a problem, theres a lot of lies that are destructive. Thats one of them. When you hear joe biden say he needs more time, is he wrong on that or you get where hes coming from . Ive had a bellyful that the constitution is in doubt. We have to show america to get to the bottom of what can happen. I think having an Impeachment Inquiry<\/a> can help that occur. Weve done a lightning round before. Can you handle do it facetoface in miami. You know all my secrets. That might be tough. In a sentence or less, jay inslee wins tonights debate if. People understand i am the candidate, the only candidate who say this has to be the top priority of the United States<\/a> which is defeating the Climate Crisis<\/a>. These top 20 dems the one most likely to be on a jayince klee ticket if there were one is. Cant say. Its not going to be two white fellows. I will tell you that. If you were the nominee, your\rrunning mate will not look like you. We need diversity at the top of the ticket. Yes. Were going to find a person who is qualified. Theres a lot of quality in this field. Ive already identified maybe eight or nine qualified to be Vice President<\/a> as a matter of fact. The most important issue tonight is . I view identifying someone who can be beat donald trump and i believe i have the best way to do that which is Economic Growth<\/a> with the number one Fastest Growing<\/a> job in america which is clean energy. When you see Cory Booker Crush Crushing<\/a> those barbells, you think . What . Hes quite a great football player. Ill do okay on the debate stage. Governorince lee for a rare interview, thanks for making the time. Its a very busy night. Appreciate it. Still aheadings from rick perrys oops moment to unforgettable lines like where is the beef . Why debates can matter so much and oneonone with the man who\rset this up. Tom perez is here. Well be right back. Set this up. Tom perez is here. Well be right back. I had a heart problem. I was told to begin my aspirin regimen, and i just didnt listen. Until i almost lost my life. My doctors again ordered me to take aspirin, and i do. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. Listen to the doctor. Take it seriously. Steven could only Imaginem 24hr<\/a> To Trenjoying<\/a> a spicy taco. Burn, now, his world explodes with flavor. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts\rfor allday allnight protection. Can you imagine 24hours without heartburn . But dad, youve got allstate. 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You have every candidate figuring out their own personal style for prepping for what could be the biggest night of the campaign thus far. A lot of them are going to\rwork out today. Beto orourke holding an event here in the miami area yesterday said listening is one of the keys for him. Jay inslee, governor Of Washington<\/a> draws. Elizabeth warren, Amy Klobuchars<\/a> case putting policy into real life application. John delaborny going back and watching the 2016 republican debates to try to get some idea how to navigate a Big Crowded Stage<\/a> with multiple candidates on. Aim klobuchar, we are told she spent time watching the 2016 republican primary debates. Julian castro had an a twocomedians skype into his last prep session to help him work on any jokes he might try to use on the debate stage. Im joined by the chairman of the Democratic National<\/a> committee tom perez. I dont know if you brought any comedians for your prep. No, ill stick with the regular formula. What you have tonight is an bun dance of what you call\rriches. Absolutely. But also ten candidates is a lot. What have you done to insure its fair and will there be equal time . Weve worked from the outoutset to make sure fairness is our north star. We made sure we gave the candidates all of the Rules Of Engagement<\/a> back in february. We established unprecedented access to the debate stage by establishing not only a Polling Threshold<\/a> but a grassroots fubd raising threshold. I dont think you can win the presidency without becoming an accomplished grassroots fundraiser in 2020. Thats you being practical and saying your party is not going to disfrom how expensive it is to run. Absolutely. We made sure the grassroots had a voice. The notion you can invest 1 which is what the situation is now and be involved in the effort to get a candidate of your choice on debate stage, that is democratizing the process. So we took that effort and as\ryou know, we did random assignment for tonight and tomorrow. No jv varsity. Weve got a deep bench. People will see there are multiple candidates they really like. I encourage people to date multiple candidates, speed date if you will. Then fall in love and then what we have to do is fall in line behind whoever wins and what weve done is make sure that the process is fair to everyone so that those who dont make it are going to be enthusiasticing in milwaukee in a little over a year. Now, youre enough of a political junkie that you may know theres one thing that max inwaters and ross perot have in common. Do you know what it is . I have no idea. Its being dead serious about their time. Maxine famously says reclaiming my time. Right. People love that. Perot at his debates would say can i finish . Can i finish . He would brow beat the moderators which Everybody Knows<\/a> are my colleagues to try to get extra time. Everyones seen that footage. What does success look like to you, a great night where we meet the candidates but the big ones speak more or part of your measure tonight in conjunction with the cohosts is equal time . We need to make sure every candidate as a fair opportunity to communicate their vision. Im confident the moderators will do that. Theyre seasoned and talented. At the same time, you have to make sure that you dont lose the flow of the debate. And so if youre in the middle of something and you want to give that opportunity to finish so that voters can make their choice. 30 seconds for that followup. Right. You know these guys and gals. You know them. It buts a premium on. A lot of viewers know them. It puts a premium on brevity. Most dont do followups in 30 seconds. But again, one of the things that is important about this is we set foorg these ruleses in advance. And the folks who will excel are the folks able to cut to the chase and articulate a vision\rquickly and cogently. You think your rules are not only fair, theyll help the candidates sharpen and someone emerges who can beat trump. When i was doing a healthy dose of trial work, you would get a Rebuttal Opportunity<\/a> in front of a judge and be told youve got three minutes. Those where is usually my best three minutes. I had to cut to the chase. I had to get to the point and make that point very, very quickly. Im confident, this is a good stable of candidates. It is a deep bench tonight and tomorrow. What i think the American People<\/a> are going to see is the unity of values and then what he theyre going to see is they really do like multiple candidates because the difference between the candidates and trump is 100 on all the critical issues. Which you can argue is good for you. Im going to remind you anytime were running out of time in a tv interview of your comments today about the importance of brev night amen. Always good to be with you. I know youre very busy. Appreciate you making time to\rcome on our special episode of the beat. Its going to be a great night and great tomorrow. Good luck to you. Ahead, i spent time just now with some of the voters here in miami and got interesting takes. Well play some of that for you. That was us out on the streets moments ago. Thats a yanks supporter right now. What we can learn from history why this is such a make or break moment for certain candidates. K moment for certain candidates. This is the ocean. Just listen. vo theres so much we want to show her. We needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. avo subaru outback. Ninety eight percent are still on the road after 10 years. Come on mom, lets go whyou should be mad that airports are complicated. Hes my emotional support snake. But youre not, because you have e trade,\rwhose tech isnt complicated. It helps you understand the risk and reward potential on an options trade. Dont get mad. Get e trade. 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So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. The United States<\/a> Postal Service<\/a> makes more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. Because the future only happens with people who really know how to deliver it. Because the future only happens with people\rsimple question, why does tonights debate actually matter . Well, its obviously the first chance for these contenders to introduce themselves to voters around the country. Right now most democrats say they only know a little about the candidates. Thats a statistic that shows the stakes. But also Broader Research<\/a> suggests primary debates have an especially large impact. So tonight its not just about the political theatrics. But as a matter of raw politics and political science, we know early debates can define candidates and narrow the race. Current Trump Administration<\/a> official rick perry. Before the debates, many saw him as a president ial frontrunner. A resume like george w. Bush. Both texas governors. Then vote serious saw him not only stumble but attack Social Security<\/a> in a way that proved less popular outside of texas. It is a ponzi scheme to tell our kids that are 25 or 30 years\rold today, youre paying into a program thats going to be there. Anybody thats for the status quo with Social Security<\/a> today is involved with a monstrous lie to our kids. And its not right. That didnt play well. Perry dropped as voters heard from him directly and later debates hurt even more. Its three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. Commerce, education, and the whats the third one there . Lets see. Lets see. I cant. The third one i cant. Sorry. Oops. I cant. And he couldnt because he dropped out of the race a few months later. We all know politics doesnt like a vacuum. Space gets filled. For republicans it was primary debates that was igniting what filled the space because people got excited what they heard. The same cycle herman cain dismissed by his hearts leaders\rfound grassroots vote ares excited for the simple plans he unhave aed on the big stage. I have put my 999 plan on the table. We must grow this economy with a big solution which is why i proposed 999. It will pass. This is why we developed 999. Kaine only surged after the debates. Had he many other weaknesses. Credible accusations of harassment, poor performance in business. The point is not whether a given candidate will go the distance but that the vote ares, you guys watch. You make up your minds regardless whether the elites or media think a candidate in the early stages top tier. Thats a lesson before anyone counts out lesser known candidates taking the stage this week. Then of course of, another point to consider is the way skilled debaters can totally define an opponent on the big stage. Sometimes dispatching rivals in ways that are more lethal than an attack ad or piece of mail. Back when gary hart was nursing a lead over mondale, he turned his experience over a newcomer that worked even if it was highly prepared. When i hearhim. When i hear your new ideas, im reminded of that ad, wheres the beef . And what is beef . Mondale was teeing off a Pop Culture Reference<\/a> of fast food ad. He was showing voters he was ready to handle any beef. Again, the lesson is debates define everything. Candidates over time and fundraising and attitude matters. But even in a political world this days that feels like it can turn on the latest tweet or hype, i want to tell you tonight is about what these candidates actually stand for and what voters, what you ultimately decide. Dig into this point, i want to bring back rnc chairman Michael Steele<\/a>. Your thoughts on why tonight is different . No, you hit a home run and you framed it exactly right\rthere. Is a lot thats going on beneath the surface here, and a lot of it has less to do with the candidates and more 20 do with the voters, who are tuning in. Yes, they may be at their their beach property, they may be on vacation somewhere. And theyre going to tune in with a beer in hand and size these men and women up. It wont be oh, should this person be the next president of the United States<\/a>. Its what are they saying . What do they stand for . What are they thinking . How attractive are they . Can i see them in the role . And thats the evolution thats going to take place over the next few day baits. Tonight youll see some guys or gals punch up. I think this is a waste of time. Dont go after the frontrunner. The person standing next to you is your problem at the moment. Understand the space youre in, and look at that camera and forget about them and make this connection between you and those americans out there who are looking at you for the first time. I feel like youre saying be careful with any assumptions about whos ahead because the political life you save may be your own. Right. May be your own, exactly. I want to show folks watching\rthis before we go a little what we were able to do today. I went out and the streets outside the debate hall in miami and got to talk to a bunch of different folks from yang, biden supporters, klobuchar, sanders. There was a lot of folks out here, as you can see. Thats a 20yearold biden supporter who says he wants to cast his first president ial vote ever for joe biden. And one of them was telling me that they already, to your point, michael, i didnt know you were going to say that, but you did. One of them told me they already shifted from being a Kamala Harris<\/a> supporter to being a diehard Elizabeth Warren<\/a> supporter. Take a look. Elizabeth warren is my first choice. My first choice was Kamala Harris<\/a>. But after listening to elizabeth talk, listening to our plans, i thought you shifted. You moved. I shifted. Okay. You ran a political party. How typical is that . And how much does that happen because of debates . Thats very typical. And whats interesting and important about that, it happened before the debate. In other words, candidates out there having a conversation with voters is equally as important. Thats why i tell voters and tell people polls dont really matter that much right now. Its that connection that the candidates are making with the voters that kind of moves the table, as it did for that particular voter. Now what was interesting to your question, can you shift again, he said no. He said no . He said no. I bet you, i bet you starting tonight if someone stands up on that stage, Elizabeth Warren<\/a> falters, or they get the best of her, its going to cause him to rethink and reevaluate what he likes or doesnt like about her. What her strength is, ironically and interestingly enough is the policies. This election could actually be one in which policies dictate and drive a lot of where voters\rultimately settle down, beyond the likability of the candidate. Weve done the cult of personality. That was trump. Now the question becomes the substance of what you bring to the table, which is why an Elizabeth Warren<\/a> donald trump debate in the fall of next year gets really interesting, because there is only so much ducking you can do when youre getting hit on policy. And if thats what the voters want to side, a lot of times its the activists who you know the term, influencers, activists are ones who friends come and say at least not maybe who should i vote for, but who are the two or three for real and take their word on that. I spoke to one young voter today who said he is all about yang. I said why. He said he is the only datadriven candidate. And i said thats probably true. It is. But you got to go beyond data driven. There is more to it than the data. So the question for someone like a yang, who no one has an idea about maybe beyond the tech space is how will you be president . How will you do the presidency . Now, lets not get caught up if well, donald trump can do it, anybody can do it. Thats not the standard, folks. Get that out you ever head. I dont want to take time from our special predebate coverage. Michael, im going to leave it there now. One more thing before i toss to brian and nicole. You should be mad at tech that makes things worse. But youre not, because you have e trade whose tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. Dont get mad, get e trade. Bills back needed a afvacation from his vacation. An amusement park. So he stepped on the dr. Scholls kiosk. It recommends our best custom fit orthotic to relieve foot, knee, or lower back pain. So you can move more. Dr. Scholls. 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