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That we know of. So what happens all that plus im asking with both my lungs, is it time to destigmatize racism . Yeah, were going there. This is the cycle, afterall. It is now 8 00 at the time vatican and pope francis preparing for a packed first week as pope. He accept that his first full day as pope asle would expect, praying. He even slipped out of the vatican to pray at one of romes great basilicas. He will meet with members of the press saturday. Sunday there is a chance hell say mass at st. Peters and then deliver the traditional blessing from the balcony. The biggest event is tuesday. That will be the installation mass. A huge event in fact. Vice President Biden will lead the u. S. Delegation. Pope frangs sis expected to meet with his predecessor. The two have already spoken by phone. Pope francis is the churchs first priest from latin america. He is jesuit. The largest order of the Catholic Church, known for its dedication to education, intellectual research and the poor. Francis lived relatively humbly in buenos aires despite his position as archbishop. He gave up the traditional palace and chauffeured limo opting instead for a city apartment. He cooked his own meals, all very common of jesuits. He would often visit the slum believing social outreach is the core of the church. Even yesterday areplied the pomp and prayer, he turned down the official papal car and instead, joined the other cardinals on a bus. Later at dinner, he reportedly told the plenty who elected him, may god forgive you for what you have done. Msnbcs chris janicing is in vatican city. We heard mass applause from the one hundred,000 faithful gathered there yesterday. Especially for a plan such as this who has lived his life so simply. Reporter yeah, think about it this way. As you describe it. This is a man who lives in a simple apartment with another elderly priest. He cooks his own meals. He rides the bus and he wakes up and he is the head of 1. 2 billion catholics. In one of the most beautiful places in the world. You can see it behind me. The basilica. We heard today that after he went back to the little hotel where they all stayed last night, all of the cardinals, and he took his own luggage and moved over to the papal apartments. The whole staff had been there since 7 00 in the morning. And i was over at the vatican talking to some of the folks there. And they said, he sent them all home. They had been there to get everything cleaned up, make sure it was perfectly dusted. And he said just go home and one person stayed behind. This is a man who not only preaches about social justice and talks about how important it is to work with the poor, and to help the poor, but he lives his life that way. So i think that although a lot of american catholics in particular were going to be disappointed, frankly with any of the 115 cardinals on the social issues that are often talked about in the u. S. Catholic church. Thing like Birth Control and gay marriage and celibate priests. Those things are not going to change them werent going to change whoever was elected pope. But this is a man who has lived his life really fighting for social justice. He has been in the slums of buenos aires. We were talking about his cardinal here who had said when he went on a tour, when he took them on a tour, he didnt show him all the beautiful sights. He wanted to show him where the poor lived. This is someone who came in second the last time. And apparently, looked at this beautiful michelangelo paining in the sistine chapel. The look on his face said he didnt want the job. His sister was interviewed last night. And she said, he didnt want to be pope. He is a very humble man. He is a very simple man. He loves his life but it is about to change dramatically as you can see. He already has a very busy schedule in just the coming days. Back to you. Thanks for all your insight over the past week. Have a safe flight back. As weve that, francis is the first pope from latin america. Today faithful in his home town of buenos aires, argentina, are holding mass and celebrating. Miguel is there. Reporter a sense of normalcy has return to the cathedral behind me where the pope was the archbishop for more than a decade. There were celebrations running well into the night last flight and even into the Early Morning hours of today. Hundreds out here gathered on the streets. They were celebrating and honking their horns. Some even crying in the streets. We were five miles from this location in an area known as the slum of buenos aires. We met many people who said the pope was a man of the streets. He ate with them, cooked for them and held daily masses in their own neighborhoods. Then they could not have been any happier, any prouder that a pope, that pope would now represent this region. We should point out that catholicism is a huge part of the way folks live their daily lives here. Four out of every catholics live here in latin america. There was celebration not just here in arch arch but also in brazil and in the United States. We saw celebrations overnight in miami and los angeles and also, in denver. Many saying they were thrilled to see a pope of latin american descent represent this region. Now here in argentina, many are now looking back to rome wondering when the pope will make his first visit back here in latin america. Thank you for that. Like pope francis, our next guest is also a jesuit priest. Father james martin. The author of the best selling book the jesuit guide to almost everything. I have to start by saying forgive me father, i have sinned. I guess thats a different conversation. I have to start by asking but the jesuit connection. This is the first ever jesuit pope. The vow of poverty they take, how seriously francis has taken this in his life. How do you think from a practical standpoint this will affect his papacy, the focus of the work that he does as pope. How significant do you think the fact that he is a jesuit will be . I think it is enormously significant. Youve already seen how humble he is, how simply he lives and i think simple lifestyle is a hallmark. From our earliest days in training, we spend time with the poor, among the poor and we advocate for the poor. I think you will see a pope of the poor and thats indicated by the choice of his name, father francis. I wanted to read a quote and get to you weigh in on it. He said, his age would suggest a kind of care taker pope but his name, evoking not only francis of assisi but the great jesuit Francis Xavier as well, suggests a mix of humility and purifying zeal. What is the significance of the name. . There was some bandying about. Is it the francis can . The vatican that it is st. Francis of assisi. Because that name is over well known among catholics, it is a real sign he intends to concentrate on the poor and call to us work with the poor and call to us live simply as well. So i think they say the biggest decision of the first pope is his name. He made a big decision. Archbishop jose gomez of los angeles has talked extensively about the Important Role that hispanic catholics have played in the founding of the country and in playing witness to american spirituality. And he has called for a resurgence. Do you think that pope francis will galvanize hispanic catholics here in this country for whom maybe some of their faiths may be waning . I think he has. Theres nothing to compare with a pope who speaks your language and speaks it fluently. I think Something Like 40 to 50 of american catholics are now hispanic. You look at someone like archbishop gomez who is the arch bishop of the largest Catholic Diocese and he is an hispanic person. I think the fact that you have a pope who can come over here and speak and preach and even joke around in spanish will be a huge shot in the arm. Not only for the hispanic catholics here but in latin america. What do you think are the implications . It is huge. It has shifted. It is a siphon recognition. And i think it also reminds people in places like africa, latin america, india, the church is not just european or roman. Far from it. It is universal. So it is a terrific sign. Father james martin, thank you so much. There is a lot more to talk about including how the new pope could affect the churchs stand on abortion or gay marriage, or not. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. Our Financial Advice is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. Life brings obstacles. Usaa brings retirement advice. Its eb. Want to give your family the very best in taste, freshness, and nutrition . 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Its just another way youll be traveling at the speed of hertz. For current and former military members and their families. Get advice from the people who share your values. For our free usaa retirement guide, call 877242usaa. With a new pope theres a lot to talk about in the future of the church. He is the pope of firsts. The first from the americas, the first jesuit, the first named francis. Will he really change anything . Well, lets spin on it. My take, guys, and i wrote about this today, for the blaze, is that his election signals as father martin indicated, sort of an enduring influence of latinos on the church. This is a moment. A shift. As father said, toward the southern hemisphere. And i think what it could do for hispanic catholics here in america is inject this deeply get personalized sense of pride in their faithful and it could renew a sense of vigor in their own catholicism. And especially for a people that oftentimes feels like they are on the outside. Both in their country and in their church, this feels very sort of inclusive. Like we are being recognized. We are, we feel special. And i think that could have really interesting effects. If you look at the demographics of hispanic catholics, new research is finding that as they a simulate more into american culture, they become less staunk on social issues. They become more liberal, religiously speaking. They become less prolife, for example. And i think pope francis will have a really interesting effect on that of it will be interesting to watch whether, because he is so staunchly conservative on social issues, like abortion and gay marriage, will he pull those hispanic catholics toward his center of gravity. Be a tuning fork for that group and be back toward traditional orthodoxy, or will he sound increasingly anachronistic for the people moving away and to the left and create a bigger chasm. I think that would be really, really interesting to watch. I think that it is a bit of a red herring to talk about how staunchly conservative francis on social issues because every single poem for the next 1,500 years will be staunchly conservative. It come with the job at this point. Im interest in the politics. I think that the rise of the latino vote, so many being catholic. Im interested in how this will affect the politics. It has been the dream to facilitate catholics. The middle of the last decade they talk about latinos, them part of it, too. Well do immigration reform. That didnt work out. Well really appeal to catholics. This was the idea, thats how we can make latinos a big part of the Republican Partys future. What we saw in the 2012 election was immigration is one issue that did not help republicans with latinos. Theres a lot of research out there now about the attitudes on policy questions of latino voters in this country. And they are much more liberal on economic questions, questions about the role of government, questions about taxation. About the safety net than where the Republican Party is. So to me, the social conservativism says every pope will do that. If you now have a pope that has a connection with the la scene over voters in the country that is putting a new emfast miss we havent seen from the vatican on social issues, i think it can reinforce the other shoes. And hispanics and catholics are two demographics that have grown. Im a little awed at the continuing rise of, in global power of hispanics and latinos. Not only is jorge from the pope but the richest man in the world is carlos slim. And we saw the impact the Hispanic Community is having on the election, and the previous elections as well. It is interesting to see these people rising in global power. I want to speak a little to why i, maybe some of you guys found this. Im not catholic. Im not even that religious. Youre atheist but fully interested in this situation. A couple things that i came up with. The pomp and circumstance of the Catholic Church rivals even greater than hollywood. That sort of draws you in. The long history and tradition of this process. He is the 226th, is that right . Theyve had tons and tons of popes now. The global reach of the pope is interesting. Just seeing people who really believe in something, the leaders and the followers. Thats very exciting. It is. Compelling. To that point, my husband is actually in the country of colombia right now. Obviously not argentina. But i called him to see what the reaction on the street was. There he is. Hey he can be a little bit oblivious. What happened . Then he call me back five minutes later. Oh, life has come to a standstill. People are out on the streets celebrating. I just thought thats what they did in colombia on wednesdays. Going back to this argument allergy it be the more socially conservative views that pull the latinos in this direction, there is some research from a behavioral economist at Duke University that may tie into this. He said basically, once people feel like theyre cheating on a particular issue, then there is a rt sof slippery slope. They already feel like theyre being bad so they will be increasingly bad. And i think because the church has staked out such an absolute position on things like Birth Control where frankly, most catholics cheat. That it makes the less, the rest of their mention on social issues less compelling and less sticky. People feel like theyre already being bad there. So to that extent, i think thats why youre seeing latinos focusing more on that social justice mention. Because it is an area where they feel like theyre good and where they can be good. One thing, listening a minute ago. This idea of noncatholics being interested in this. People not that interested being interested. Jerry brown, one of the most fascinating politicians ive ever covered. A former jesuit from california. He said, i doubt the theology but i love the history. Thats his relationship with the church. Going to Catholic School for some years, even as an atheist. It is cool to be around people who care that much. All the rituals and the ceremony. Exciting stuff. We all want to know how you think the new pope will change the church if he can. Kendall cruthers writes, at first glance he does seem to have what it takes to draw people of all faiths in, to at least think about religion as it pertains to their lives. As always, we want to hear what you think. Make the cycle your religion. Why not . Straight ahead . Its a miracle . Republicans applauded the president during day two of his fiscal field trip to capitol hill . So what will day three bring . Weve got lots of outspoken folks. Bernie sanders in the guest spot next. [ phoebe ] stress sweat. 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