That insight others to do so to prevent people around the world to be radicalized is ultimately a battle for hearts and minds. And the president said that starts in our communities. Efforts are under way in los angeles, new york and minneapolis are under way already. Kristen welker at the white house. Walk us through what the administration is hoping the pilot programs will do. Reporter well the goal here ari, is to reach vulnerable communities, young people who might be inclined to join a terrorist group like isis. Isis has been effective at recruiting young people through online social media so the pilot programs are aimed at counter that. A fullcourt press, from afterschool programs, prek and job fairs and they are asking a number of different sectors in every community to help out. So lets look at how many different corners of each community the Obama Administration is asking to help in the effort. It includes Law Enforcement, the business community, teachers families churches mosques and synagogues. This is what dhs sect jeh johnson had to say about this earlier today. The global terrorist threat is more decentralized and more diffuse and frankly more complex. It has to be more than just countering violent extremism. We have to have a dialogue across a range of issues. Frankly it is an exercise in lowering barriers lowering suspicion and building trust. We all have a stake. It is our public safety. It is our homeland security. It is our country. Reporter and i expect president obama in his remarks today to argue in order to combat violent extremism a broad point is needed. The officials here estimate that 3000 westerners have gone to places like iraq and syria to join isis and as many as 150 americans. So clearly a big concern. When i asked josh earnest when the tangibles or the takeaways of the summit would be not a clear answer but what the white house said is they hope this will foster dialogue to get the pilot programs across the country. And the dhs funding is a question today and some want to hold that back and now the courts are stepping in. How is the white house hoping to step ahead on this. Yesterday a forward judge in texas essentially blocked the white house immigration action which was aimed at giving millions of Illegal Immigrants relief from deportation. Now today, by the way, was the first day that some of those folks were going to be able to apply for relief from deportation. Dhs sect jeh johnson said while the Court Battles play themselves out, that would be suspended. So at this point millions of people in limbo while the court cases are playing out. The Obama Administration said they will appeal that decision and they trying to decide if they will take Emergency Action and trying to file an emergency injunction but they say this is likely a fight going to the supreme court. And you talk about the legislative things under way and trying to block the president S Immigration action and so the question is will what happened in the courts this week impact republican strategy. Im told by aids on capitol hill it is not going to impact the strategy and they are going to move forward to try to block the president S Immigration action and it could lead to dhs closing down. So a big battle brewing over the next self days. Which is logically weird because they would be defunding something the courts have suspended but there is politics in addition to logic on the issues. Kristen welker thank you very much. And now to a friend of the show, tom sander at the center for strategic and international studies. Good day to you. Looking at what the white house is doing on the radical extremist front, the rand corporation, an army think tank tracks this and weve seen some exodus of some americans going abroad to a range of countries who are radicalized so this problem is not new and only specific to isis but you see there 150 americans roughly estimated to have been recruited by isis given that it is not new, what can the white house do now in your view at a government level to try to make it less likely that americans would want to go join this kind of terror . Well i think the white house is putting forward a plan just to do that. And it has been ongoing and that is to reduce the chances and likelihood that young men and some young women would seek to join isis or any of the other groups the nusra front or al qaeda core and engage in the battles and come back. So you have to hit things at all levels the community level, the socioeconomic level and the cultural level and those guys training in the u. S. And preparing for this you have to go on the harder side and the Law Enforcement side. So going with the multi dimensional approach we can do it and we cant assume the u. S. Will not be hit by some individuals who either come back or despite not going over there, simply see themselves at the vanguard of an extended isis capability and attack within the country without having gone over to fight. That is right, tom. The president s message is we are doing the best we can to combat al qaeda and the bigger groups and isis but dealing with the small attacks from one or two people not communicating with the larmer group, it is larger group, it is difficult to deal with on a consistent basis. How can we stop those sort of attacks . Im afraid it is almost impossible to do it. The smaller the group, and it could just be an individual or two people like we saw if boston, the smaller the signature. With a larger group, you need logistics, safe houses big training areas. These individuals like fizzal his odd, his safe house was an apartment in connecticut. You have to have the person make a statement and give off an indicator they are going to do something, talk to them online and see what they are doing. But that demands having Family Community leaders and others detect these kind of signatures or signs from an individual. It is really really difficult. The it is difficult the smaller the group gets. And we hear about the president an how he handles this and talks about the subject of extremism and being at war with terrorists and terrorism but the criticism is he never says islamic terrorism or specifies this is muslim. That is a critique . To a certain degree. It is important to point out, the hardest core of the individuals, isises and others are clearly using islam as a means to carry their message and the intolerant islam is their vision but the president is right in trying to avoid us against them situation or disposition. If we ever get to that point, weve lost. Because you cannot lose this vast majority of the islamic world that is not for isis and does not support what they do. And if you make people feel it is us versus them they have no choice but to join those sides or not do anything to help the west in the attempt to bring isis to its knees. And tom we have not had a successful largescale attack here in the United States directly planned overseas an the president hit on this today saying that is not our greatest threat. The greatest threat are the lone wolves an the smaller attacks. Is that where our focus should be right now . Well there is no doubt we should have our focus everywhere and we cant do that. We dont have unlimited resources but we do have a strong intelligence and Law Enforcement here and again community leaders, parents, clergy, and you name it. But we do have to look at the lone wolves because very small indicators that they are the impact is incredibly disproportionate and if two or three lone wolves were to attack across the United States everyone would feel vulnerable because they dont know when the next attack is coming. All of the threats need resources but would you puch the lone wolves at the top of the list. Tom sanderson thanks for your aal analysis. And jeb takes a punch at the white house. We are lost the trust and confidence of our friends. We definitely no longer inspire fear in our enemies. Ouch. And fresh off his Foreign Policy speech. Were going to play a game. Can you tell the difference between his speech and the president s. And ed schultz will tell us what he found in louisiana. And a new guy here today. And then an American Institution turns 80 years old. The real story behind monopoly. And ill go oneonone with another American Icon in fashion. As the cycle rolls on it is wednesday, february 18. 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With the guidance of a pnc investments financial advisor, know you can get help staying on track for the future youve always wanted. 2016 president ial contender jeb bush wants america to know he is not his father and not his brother and today he continued to carve out a name for himself with the big Foreign Policy speech in chicago. The United States has an undiminished ability to shape event and build alliances of free people. We can project power and enforce peaceful stability in far off areas of the globe. Having a military equal to any threat is not only essential for the commander and chief, it is also less likely that well need to put our men and women in uniform in harms way because i believe fundamentally weakness invites war, strengthen encourages peace. But it is clear jeb bush is trying to harness some of bush 43s swager and to an overpowering public force and that is what happened with george w. Bush in 2000 and how will jeb do it this time around and that is with cash. And when i wrote for nbc today that worked for bush 43 wont work for his brother. And here is a bug plug for my article today. And thank you for indulging me in this. A good plug for my own piece. Do you need a map or something . Here is my take on this. You have a speech about the Foreign Policy in the george w. Bush iraq Foreign Policy and a big challenge for jeb bush in the general election when voters have to look at him. But the bigger challenge for him and the bigger challenge getting to the immediate election and that has to do with his brother for a different reason and that is the move for the Republican Party and what the psychology is today was shaped by what happened in the george w. Bush years because you have to go back to 1999 and 2000 to remember how this turned out but they returned to bill clinton. And they said he beat us in the election and shutdown and impeachment and we want our own bill clinton. That was the appeal of compassionate conservatism and how they interpreted the bush years was we sold our souls and we got Big Government conservatism and it got us an economic collapse and record low president ial Approval Ratings and got us barack obama. And i dont hear republicans out there saying we need our own obama. It is a completely different thing. So jeb is offering the same basic, im the electable guy, im willing to lose the primary to win the general election. But they are not getting the cover. They are moving to the right because of bush. And now they are looking for something different. The tea party to me has been two things. It is one, a reaction to obama. We want to fight obama but it is a reaction to bush. We dont need another bush. That is interesting. Lets bring in patricia murphy, a contributor to the daily beast. And jumping off what we were saying jeb bush does he cling on to his name or run away from it. When you look at a quinnipiac poll and some of the polls, 39 in colorado, 35 in iowa and virginia 35 . And here is what he said today. I love my father i love my brother and i love my mother too, i hope that is okay. And i love the difficult decisions they had to make and im my own man and my decisions are viewed by my own thinking. I think he has found the right tone. I admire my dad and brother and their service, but im going to be my own man here. That is absolutely the message he wanted to get across. When his staff sent out excerpts of the speech last night, this is one of the key passages that jumped out. It was a very long speech but that was the clip they wanted people to hear. I am my own man. And that is what he has to say and must say. But now it is, okay but now what . You get into the text and the message of the speech and you start to look for, well then where are the differences with your brother and where will your differences come from. I dont hear a lot that couldnt be said by george bush. But i didnt hear any widesweeping changes. And i was struck there was a small speech he was talking about and it has been many years since we went into iraq and he referred to it as the liberation of iraq and it struck me because it sounded like someone very supportive and very close to that specific policy would say, not close to josh bush but somebody who believed we did the right thing there so how far away will he be able to get away from his brother. And domestic policy he is where he needs to be but Foreign Policy, there isnt a difference on where they today to be. And hes looking to raise 100 100 million by the end of the quarter. He is talking it a calling it a shock and shock and awe campaign is he shocking that he gained so much cash so quickly. It was amazing. There was a report in the politico article. He was gaining money while people were unwrapping christmas presents. Right until he came out with his statement that he would run for president , nobody knew it was coming. Mitt romney was making noise. But jeb bush did the opposite of what others did. Many wished their interest and scrambled to get their Team Together. But he got a Team Together and put out feelers and put out feelers for money and then announced his campaign and his interest. So he has flipped the order that most of the other republicans are following and it seems to be working for him. Obviously very well. We see the moderate candidates to scramble who will be my staff and supporters. And you said the foreign speech policy said it could stand like w. Or obama it was so broad and vague. I want to read some lines and see if you could figure out whether it was jeb or obama. American isolationism is not the an option we dont have a choice to ignore what happens beyond our borders, as the Syrian Civil War spills across the borders. And number two, america does not have the luxury of withdrawing from the world, our seekd our prosperity and our values demand that we remain engaged and involved in often. I think the second one was bush, but im not sure. And i have another pair. Unlike other nations, america is not afraid of individual empowerment. We are strengthened by it. We are stren ngthenned by entrepreneurs and small business. And number two, the u. S. Has undiminished ability to shape events and build anienss of free people. Im going obama and then bush. I just heard his speech so i knew what he said. I cheated. She is good up against the clock. Briefly, arent they similar. It is similar. An it is ironic because that is what jeb bush is criticizing obama for, because it is so vague and so soft. And everybody can agree with what they are saying and where is jeb bush from his own criticism with what they are saying today. I have some Michael Dukakis quotes for you. Patricia murphy thank you for joining us. 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