The system is guilty fury over the chokehold case. It was a difficult decision, we understand. But it was a just decision. Its not fair. What do they not see . How could they possibly not indict . If youre speaking, you can breathe. Too Many Americans feel deep unfairness. No laughing matter for anyone including jon stewart. If comedy is tragedy plus time, i need more [ bleep ] time. There was action and in the action someone died. But i would really settle for less [ bleep ] tragedy to be honest with you. Take that pain and frustration and work for change. Theres much anger in the air, but we are committed to a dignified campaign. The urgency of the moment is a rewakening about the cause of justice. We are all responsible now. The weight of history cant be our excuse. Its a movement that has been ignited. It will not go away until justice is served. What do we do . Stand up, fight back before eric garner was choked and killed in what the chief medical examiner labelled a homicide, he said this every time you see me you mess with me. Im tired of this. This stops today. It stops today. Protesters have taken eric garners words and turned them into the protest chant, this stops today. Protesters gattered in cities across the county from new york city to washington, d. C. , to oakland, california, and to chicago where protesters shut down lake shore drive tonight. Objection to the grand jurys finding crossed political and ideological lines. How this cop did not go to jail, was not held responsible is beyond me. This is the new york police completely out of control doing something they did not murder him, but manslaughter, absolutely should have been considered. Why that wasnt considered is beyond me. Earlier today, new york city mayor bill de blasio said the new York City Police department will retrain its police force to better interact with the community. The relationship between police and community has to change. The way we go about policing has to change. It has to change in this city, it has to change in this country. Im fundamentally convinced it will change. One of the focal points at the academy is changing how our officers talk with residents of the city. Changing ou they listen, slowing down some interactions that sometimes escalate too quickly. Giving officers a chance to wake up until backup and supervision comes. Deescalating, using less force whenever possible. These are fundamental lessons that will be taught her we now know that 23 jurors heard from 50 witnesses, more than half of whom were Police Officers, emergency medical personnel and doctors. Unlike the Michael Brown case, the attorney general is not legally empowered to release any more detail about the grand jury at this time. But the lawyer for officer pantaleo told the New York Times that in his two hours of testimony, officer pantaleo, quote, wanted to get across to the grand jury that it was never his intention to injury or harm anyone. He was really just describing how he was attempting to arrest someone. Pantaleo said he tried to get off eric garner, quote, as quick as he could. And thought that once emt arrived, everything would be okay. But it wasnt okay. Eric garner was left lying motionless on the ground for at least seven minutes. Police officers at the scene made absolutely no attempt to help or resuscitate him. When the emts arrive, they also made no attempt to resuscitate eric garner. At one point, one of the officers says, hes still breathing. After an onlooker questions why no one is giving him cpr. Today, the president of the new york city patrolmans benevolent association, that is the police union that represents Police Officers said that officer pantaleo and all the other Police Officers and Emergency Personnel did their jobs properly. While bringing that person to the ground, yes, they said we cant breathe. But the Police Officers and the emf did what theyre supposed to do at that time. If youre speaking, you can breathe. Joining me now is Anne Thompson in lower manhattan. Whats the situation there . Hi, lawrence. We are on east broadway. Im with a group of about 200 protesters who started their night at foley scare. They walked up to union square. Theyre now walking back to 1 police. What has been missing tonight are the confrontations that we saw last night between police and protesters. This has been a very peaceful march. In fact, one of the ironies is that even though they chant sayings that are very derogatory to the new york police, its the new york Police Department thats clearing roads that they can march without getting hit by traffic about ten minutes ago, the police were lined up. To stop the protesters. And, in fact, behind me, there are some Police Officer cars who are sort of catching up, you know, making sure the protesters are protected as well. But the point of this protest tonight is to command accountability from government officials. These people say they want an indictment in the death of eric garner. If it hasnt happened on the local level, they want it to happen on the federal level. And they wont rest until that happens. Lawrence . Few thank you very much for joining us tonight. Were now joined by joy reid and eugene robinson. You have the protesters echoing eric garner saying i cant breathe. The new York City Police union leader explained the medicine of this for us today. He said if youre speaking, you can breathe. Yeah. And that has become a talking point for people who want to defend the officer here or want to blame eric garner for his own death and say essentially its his own fault. You can see even at one point his hands are raised. He was not offering resistance. And just the fact that he could get out the words. You could hear him barely able to get the words out. That means he was breathing. Evens after he was down. The symmetry between this case and the reaction of human beings to somebody lying on the ground in extreme duress is none. No reaction at all. Tamir rice left on the grown dying before anyone offered him any aid. Eric garner lying there dying and people are videotaping it saying this guy cant breathe and this sort of nonchalant reaction of the people around him, no one to offer aid. And then mike browns bodily lie on the ground like waste for four hours. When people use the term black lives matter, thats what theyre talking about. The fact that a human beings demise is unremarked upon by authorities standing right over him. You gene robinson, new york city is filled with great emergency medical technicians. Eric garner got the bad luck of getting what looks like the worst emt team working in america that day. They, i believe, should have been as much worried about the jut come in that grand jury as officer pantaleo. The idea that only one person there was possibly legally responsible for that death i think is fiction. I think there was a gross dereliction of duty by the emts and others. I think they may have been the worst emt team in the world operating that day. And frankly, the first time i saw the they had, that was almost more shocking to me than the altercation and the chokehold. The fact that people whose jobs it is to save lives clearly saw a life that wasnt worth saving, as far as they were concerned. Or even trying. And, you know, this has got to change. This simply has got to change. Its cold comfort to say that maybe people will realize this after the events weve seen. It shouldnt take this sort of thing to make people do their jobs and do their jobs in the proper way. Everyone on that scene responding was contemptuous of eric garner even why he was dying there before their eyes. We have a really striking moment here where there were some people on fox news last night expressing shock at this outcome at the grand jury. This goes across the political spectrum. I want to listen more about what glenn beck said about this today. This is the way americans deal with injustice. Weve let the system work. The system didnt work here. Now lets calmly, rationally say why didnt the system work . What were the instructions to the grand jury. What was the evidence that they say, you know, didnt matter . Because weve seen the video. Explain to me how thats not manslaughter. If its because of some loophole, we americans need to fix that loophole. Weve been here before. The Trayvon Martin started off as a universally agreed upon something egregious here. But there is no question. This is the videotape. And much like the rodney king case, youre asked not to believe your lying eyes. What you see in front of you is not what youre seeing even though it violates their actual policeman youll. You cant do that. Since 1993. One of the charges, the most minimal charge that officer pantaleo could have been charged with has the words, compression of the neck in it. It describes what happened but yet the grand jury couldnt find it. I was struck by a daily news interview with the young man who shot the video. He said he testified for ten minutes. The officer testified for over two hours. He said the grand juries were indifferent to what he had to say. The only questions they had were about eric garners actions, why was he there, what was he doing . I think the fact that people even with the videotape cant bring themselves to see, not a crime, but the possibility of a crime, Something Worthy of going to trial, does lead you to ask, no matter where you are on the ideological spectrum, if you cant get an indictment here, where can you get an indictment . And lawrence, lawrence, conservatives should be going crazy over this. Yes, they should. Theres no greater power that we entrust to the state than the power to take liberty and life. And to see it misused and abused in this way in case after case after case should be driving conservatives just crazy. Weve had a little of that from the conservative side, but we should have a lot more. Yeah, Police Officers are the only government workers whose abuse conservatives will defend under any circumstances. And the only unions and the only Union Members and the only Union Leadership the conservatives ever support. Not only support, but its the only union thats absolutely 100 effective. We have neutered the Union Movement in this country. They cant protect nurses, they cant protect teachers, but by golly, they can protect the police. I wonder why they would want to protect officers who are clearly violating the codes, the rules they wrote for themselves. I cant figure it out. Were going to get more into the police union. Did you both for being here tonight. Up next, the internal Affairs Investigation into the killing of eric garner and details about the cleveland Police Officer who shot and killed a 12yearold boy. That officer was actually judged to be incompetent to be a Police Officer before he got his job on the Cleveland Police force. And the head of the new York City Police union says that the man who killed eric garner, his words, is a model Police Officer. Im going to have to rewrite that one a little bit. I have a cold with terrible chest congestion. Better take something. Theraflu severe cold doesnt treat chest congestion. Really . 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Started using gain flings,fe their laundry smells more amazing than ever. sniff honey, isnt that the dogs towel . dog noise hey, mi towel, su towel. More scent plus oxi boost and febreze. Its our best gain ever one chapter has closed with the decision of this grand jury there are more chapters ahead. The Police Department will initiate now its own investigation. They make its own decisions about the administrative actions it can take. Less than 1 of all killings by Police Officers are ruled unjustifiable by Police Departments even though independent studies have found that 25 to 50 of the victims have been unarmed. Every one of those words that you just heard, i actually wrote over 30 years ago. In the New York Times first op ed police about police abuse of deadly force. Much has changed and much has stayed the same. In Police Internal investigations since then. Nypds internal investigation into the killing of eric garner is the next challenge the officers involved in that case will have to face. Joining me now are a civil rights and Civil Defense lawyer tell us about the internal affairs procedure that this officer and the others involved in the death of eric garner are going to have to go through. Internal affairs will investigation it initially. Although they may hold off if theres a federal grand jury proceeding. But assuming that doesnt happen, then internal affairs will investigate, theyll recommend charges and specifications. The nypd advocates office will prosecute the case and in all likelihood, bill bratton will possibly dismiss this officer. Is there a trial of sorts . Yes. A departmental trial. And hell be represented by a lawyer . Will bill bratton be present in that . No. There will be a trial commissioner to serves at the pleasure of bill bratton. We dont need the commissioner for this, i will sit in his stead . Thats right. I would be amazed if there are recommendations, after we go through all that, anything other than the dismissal of this officer. Why . Because its so obvious. Im more concerned about, are the cases where someone doesnt die, where we dont have a videotape, we have hundreds of those where people are injured, people are falsely arrested. Internal affairs does nothing about those. Mark claxton, what is your sense of how internal affairs will handle this . Well, i think its pretty fascinating. I think most people will agree the relationship between the Prosecutors Office and District Attorneys Office and Police Departments around the nation is to be kind, symbiotic. The relationship between internal affairs and the Police Bureaus in their department is actually incestuous. And so theres little confidence from those who have experience and time and evaluate these cases and understand how internal affairs actually operates and how ineffective theyve been in really high profile cases and have confidence in their ability. However, i will say it appears that commissioner bratton has really placed hymn and placed a high standards and its likely, i agree, its likely the Police Officer will be terminated. Rudy giuliani when he was mayor fired a Police Officer even before a departmental trial. There was a conclusion between internal affairs reports. So there is precedent taking immediate action even today. Talk about that, would there be a sufficient legal precedent for bratton to do that . He could if he wanted to. Then the officer could appeal it . Yes, there would be a process. It would be the same fact finding style. In these very highprofile cases here in new york city, with the commissioner like bill bratton in all likelihood, something will be done. What concerns me the most is i see people who are falsely arrested and internal affairs does nothing about those. Lawsuit against nypd went up 100 . They doubled during the last five years of the kelly and bloomberg administration. Were still seeing the effects of that today. A police force of 35,000 people, thats not going to change overnight. There theyre still ticketing kids for riding their bike on the seahawk. Still arresting people for the most minor offenses. You can get out a summons instead of an arrest. If the person doesnt have id, they run them through the system and take them through booking anyhow. Theyre talking about a change in Police Culture that the mayor is starting to talk about as a result of this incident and what its brought to light. Talk about what you think needs to change as a result of these situations. There really need to be a tremendous and revolutionary shift in the paradigm of policing throughout the nation. I think since the late 80s and early 90s, a shift away from more communitybased models and strong enforcement. Bill bratton didnt establish the theory, but he initiated the concepts within the new york Police Department. So moving towards a communitybased Law Enforcement is a challenge, but whats necessary here. Weve gone through these 10 or 15 years of excessive heavy handed overmilitarized, quota driven, data driven enforcement for minor infractions. Weve really bombarded the criminal Justice System with minor infractions as well. So maybe the shift needs to be shifting more towards communitybased programming, incorporating Community Ideas and concepts with