The boss responsible for all of this . If were going to impeach someone . I think its telling that the irs commissioner isnt bothering himself to show up for his own hearing. I think thats what you call confidence. So the businessman candidate is teaching people how to run for president. Theyre actually saying now that donald trump has taught them that their big campaigning mistake is that they just havent been nasty enough. The last thing we need is a bully in the pulpit. Donald trump, americas walking talking brush fire. He could bankrupt america like he has his companies. I do not want americans to start to believe that this is a normal candidacy. It isnt. We will be strong together. We will prove love trumps hate. Theyre dirty players. We are going to unify the Democratic Party and stop donald trump. Our campaign is a far and away stronger against trump. [ crowd chanting bernie] come the it end of july, will the Democratic Party be united after the convention . Absolutely. Donald trump is not going to become president of the United States. This is the last word on campaign 2016. The polls are coming out fast and furious now. Its only monday and we have two new National Polls and at first glance they each look different. Theyre actually fundamentally the same. Last week a fox news poll showed a tightening in the race between donald trump and Hillary Clinton that we had not seen before and the most shocking part of the poll was that it showed donald trump ahead of Hillary Clinton. The fox news poll came out with Hillary Clinton at 42 . Right there. 42 . With a three point margin of error. What that means is this could be three points higher or it could be three points lower, all the way down to 39. Then yesterday, an abc News Washington post poll showing Hillary Clinton at 44 . Thatas right inside the margin of error that fox news poll had. It in effect predicted the abc News Washington post poll. It already showed if you included the margin of error, she might be at 44. So, its not in conflict on that number and the abc poll has a three point margin of error. Which meentz the fortyfour could be as high as 47, could be as low as 41 and yesterday, an nbc wall street journal poll showing Hillary Clinton at 46 . And so the way you should look at the polls is never that they are reporting to you a precise number the way a nurse does when she takes your temperature, 98. 6 or their are reporting to you a band of possibility. Its as if the nurse says to you your temperature may be between 95. 6 to 101. 6. These polls represent that band of possibility. Each one predicts the next one reasonably well. Meanwhile, trump was at 45 in the fox poll and abc news poll, on the don was at 46, which is within the margin of error of the fox poll and abc news poll, 43 . Which is within the margin of error. So, all of these polls are not really disagreeing with each other. They are actually verifying each other within the margin of error and each of the polls shows a separation between the candidates that is within the margin of error. The fox news polshow trump with the highest number. The nbc news poll, shows Hillary Clinton with the higher number. But thats all i call it. The higher number. Because what is true is that they are reporting a statistical tie and so they should not really be reported as one candidate leading the other. So, if youre a trump supporter and sees a poll with donald trump three points higher than Hillary Clinton, what youre seeing is a tie in that poll. And if youre a clinton supporter who see as Hillary Clinton three points higher than donald trump in a poll what youre actually seeing is a statistical tie and when the campaigns see a tie in the polls, thats when they sharpen their attacks against each other. My campaign is not going to let donald trump try to normalize himself in this period. I do not want americans and good thinking republicans as well as independents, to start to believe that this is a normal candidacy. It it isnt. Heres what Hillary Clinton said to a Union Audience today in detroit. He could bankrupt america like hes bankrupted companies. I mean ask yourself. How can anybody lose money running a casino . Really . When donald trump talks about deporting 11 million immigrants, hes talking about ripping apart families like darlas. Hes talking about sending a Deportation Force to round up moms, dads, grandparents, even children. We need a president who will use the bully pulpit to stand up for working families. But the last thing we need is a bully in the pulpit. Joining us now, founder of pulse for the nbc news. And Charley Sykes and editor and chief of right wisconsin. A leader of the nevertrump movement. And former dnc chairman and a Hillary Clinton supporter. Hes also an msnbc political analyst. Needless to say, i was very nervous explaining polls with you listening. But is that the way you see it . That these polls are basically supporting each other within the margin of error . Exactly, lawrence. You explained it well. Indeed every poll has a margin of error and all of these polls are showing the same thing and that is the race is, if not dead even, at least very, very close and what we try and do is look beyond just whos ahead and whos behind into the dynamics of whats happening and why. And thats really the basis. I just try to make the description of these numbers as neutral as possible. Lets take a look at one number, peter in the nbc news poll. Thats Bernie Sanders versus donald trump. He is now at 54, donald trump at 39. Now, thats a 15point lead. Thats way outside the margin of error and thats what polling looks like outside the margin of error. Peter, theres a lot of talk about that number, its the one number people insist should not be believed in any of these polls. What is your judgment of that particular polling number . I think you have to believe the number but put it in perspective and that is basically, senator sanders has not been judged in the same way. Yes, hes doing well in the campaign but most of the voters know him only in general and not about his specifics and when it comes to the specifics, he hasnt had the same scrutiny as senator clinton or secretary clinton and thats the big difference. So, not all numbers are even or equal in this kind of situation. Not diminishing his strength but it tells you more about donald trump than it does about senator sanders. Lets listen to what Hillary Clinton said on meet the press. I think in the course of this campaign we are going to demonstrate he has no ideas. Theres no evidence he has any ideas about making America Great as he advertises. He seems to be particularly focussed on making himself appear great and as we go through this campaign, were going to be demonstrating the hollowness of his rhetoric. Charley sykes, you dont want to see donald trump in there. If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination, shes whos standing between donald trump and the presidency. What do you make from your perspective on how the Clinton Campaign is handling the Trump Campaign at this point . I think the most striking thing about these polls is how many voters are going to go to the polls with fear and loathing. The negatives for both candidates are through the roof. And this is the problem for Hillary Clinton. As im watching the polls, youre seeing conservatives not listen to me and republicans colesing round donald trump. And thats because every time you bring up Donald Trumps serial lying, the fact that hes a conman, what you hear from people is yes, Hillary Clinton is worse. The tox isty of Hillary Clinton among conservatives cannot be over stated. Theres been 20 years of anticlinton stories and rhetoric that have been the southern emerror rules the southern land. Our destiny is rich in heavens book. Today, we also remember the longer history between vietnamese and americans that is too often overlooked. More than 200 years ago, when our founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson sought rice for his farm. He looked to the rice of vietnam, which he said had the reputation of being whitest to the eye, best flavor to the taste and most productive. Soon after american trade ships arrived in your ports. During the Second World War i americans came here to support your struggle against occupation. When american pilots were shot down, the vietnamese people help rescue them. And on the day vietnam declared independence, crowds took to the streets of this city, in ho chi minh and evoked the declaration of independence and he said all people are created equal. The creatoren do youed them with rights, among these are the life to right, the right to liberty and the right to the pursuit of happiness. And another time the profession of these shared ideals and our common story of throwing off colonialism might have brought us closer together sooner. But instead cold war rivalries and fears of communism pulled us in to conflict. Like other conflicts throughout Human History we learn once more a bitter trut, that war, no matter what our intentions may be, brings suffering and tragedy. Your war memorial, not far from here and with family alters across the country you remember some 3 million vietnamese soldier and civilians who lost their lives. At our Memorial Wall in washington, we can touch the names of 58,315 americans who gave their lives in the conflict. In both of our countries, our veterans and families of the fallen still ache for the friends and loved ones they lost. Just as we learned in america that even if we disagree about a war we must always honor those who serve and welcome them home with the respect they deserve, we can join together today, vietnamese and americans and acknowledge the pain and sacrifices on both sides. More recently over the past two decades, vietnam has achieved enormous progress. Today the world can see the strides you have made. Economic reforms and trade agreements, including with the United States, you have entered the global economy, selling your goods around the world. More Foreign Investment is coming in. And with one of the Fastest Growing economies in asia, vietnam has moved up to become a middleincome nation. We see vietnams progress in the sky scrapers, and buildings in hanoi, shopping centers, in the satellites vietnam puts in to space and the new generation that is online and launching start ups and running new ventures. We see it in the tens of millions of vietnamese connected on facebook and instagram and you are not just posting selfies, although i hear you do that a lot and so far there have been a number of people who have asked me for selfies. You are also raising your voices for causes you care about, like saving the old trees of hanoi. All of this dyanism has lifted millions in to a fast growing middle class. Hunger, disease, child and Maternal Mortality are all down. The number of people with clean Drinking Water and electricity. The number of boys and girls in school, in your literacy rate, these are all up. This is extraordinary progress. This is what you have been able to achieve in a short period of time. As vietnam has transformed, so has the relationship between our two nations. We learned lesson taught by who said in true dialogue both sides are willing to change. In this way the very war that divided us became a source for healing. It allowed us to account for the missing and finally bring them home. It allowed us to help remove land mines and unexploded bombs because no child should ever lose a leg just playing outside. As we continue to assist vietnamese with disabilities, including children we are helping remove agent orange, so vietnam can reclaim more of your land. We are proud of our Work Together and we look forward to supporting your efforts. Its also not forget the reconciliation by our countries was led by our veterans who once faced each other in battle. Think of senator john mccain. Who was held here for years as a prisoner of war, meeting the general who said our countries should not be enemies by friends. Think of all of the vietnamese that helped us to heal and build new ties. Few have done more in this regard than former Navy Lieutenant and now secretary of state for the United States john kerry, who is here today and on behalf of all of us, john, we thank you for your efforts. [ applause ] because our veterans showed us the way, because warriors had the courage to pursue peace, our peoples are now closer than ever before. Our trade has surged. Our students and scholars learn together. We welcome more vietnamese students to america than any other country in Southeast Asia and every year you welcome more and more american tourists, including Young Americans with their backpacks to hanois 36 streets and the shops in the imperial city. As vietnamese and americans, we can all relate to those words, from now we know each others homeland. From now we learn to feel for each other. As president i built on this progress. With our new comprehensive partnerships, our governments are working more closely together than ever before. With this visit we put our relationship on a firmer footing for decades to come. In a sense, the long story between our two nations that began with Thomas Jefferson, two centuries ago has now come full circle. It has taken many years and required great effort. Now we can Say Something that was once unimaginable. Today vietnam and the United States are partners. I believe our experience holds lessons for the world. At a time when many conflicts seem as if they will never end, we have shown that hearts can change, and that a different future is possible when we refuse to be prisoners of the past. Weve shown how peace can be better than war. Weve shown that progress and Human Dignity is best advanced by cooperation and not conflict. Thats what vietnam and america can show the world. Now, americas new partnership with vietnam is rooted in some basic truths. Vietnam is an independent sovereign nation. No other nation can impose its will on you or decide your destiny. [ applause ] the United States has an interest here. We have an interest in vietnams success. Our partnership is in the early stages. By the time ive left i want to share what i believe can guide us too the decades ahead. First, lets Work Together to create real opportunity and prosperity for all of our people. We know the ingredients for economic success in the 21st century. In our global economy, investment and trade flows to wherever there is rule of law because no one wants to pay a bribe to start a business. Nobody wants to sell their goods or go to school if they dont know how they will be treated. And knowledgebased economies, jobs go to where people have the freedom to think for themselves and Exchange Ideas and innovate. Real economic partnerships are not just about one country extracting resources from another, they are about investing in our greatest resource, which is our people and their skills and their talents, whether you live in a big city or rural village. Thats the kind of partnership that america offers. As i announced yesterday, the peace corps will come to vietnam for the first time focusing on teaching english. A generation after Young Americans came here to fight, a new generation of americans will come to teach, build and deepen the friendships between us. [ applause ] some of americas leading Technology Companies and academic institutions are joining vietnamese universities to strengthen training in science, engineering, mathematics and medicine. Because even as we keep welcoming more vietnamese students to america, we also believe young people deserve a worldclass education here in vietnam. Its one of the reasons why we are excited this fall the new poll Bright University to open in Ho Chi Minh City where there will be full Academic Freedom and scholarships for those in need. [ applause ] students, scholars, researchers will focus on Public Policy in management and business, on engineering and Computer Science and liberal arts. Everything from the poetry of wen tsu, to mathematics. And we will keep partnering with young people and entrepreneurs because we believe if you can access the skills and teg nothing and capital you need nothing can stand in your way and that includes the talented women of vietnam. We think gender equality is an important principle. From chu the evidence is clear, i say it wherever i go around the world, families, communities and countries are more prosperous when girls and women have an equal opportunity to succeed in school and at work and government. Thats true everywhere and its true he in vietnam [ applause ] we will keep working to advance your economy with the transpacific partners