Would you talk about your preparations to detangle yourself from your conflict of interests . Well talk about it on wednesday. Its very simple. You cant manage it the way you would manage a Family Business. Trump can trumps soninlaw Jared Kushner will be named Senior Adviser to the president. I would love to have jared help us and see if we can do peace in the middle east. Some contentious confirmation hearings. Going great. There should not be hearings until the office of government ethics gives them an examination. Democrats are really frustrated they lost the election. Grow up here and get past that. Were not doing this for sport. Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. The speech eviscerating the president elect. I completely agree with meryl. It was a heartbreaking moment and so beneath the dignity of the presidency. When the deposition used to bully others, we all lose. Today president elect donald trump renewed concerns over his potential conflicts of interest with a new hire. Jared kushner, trumps soninlaw, husband of ivanka and one of his closest confidantes, was officially announced as Senior Adviser to the president. Hes already representing the president elect in meetings on capitol hill. Tonight kushner and a clak of Incoming White House officials including Altright Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus met with paul ryan and House Republicans to discuss the tax plan. News of kushners involvement come as concerns over his role in the Trump Administration. Nbc news was told trumps soninlaw wont take a salary and hell resign all of his positions with Kushner Companies and the new york observer. But ethics experts have raised questions about whether kushner will run up against a federal antinepotism law. And how hell separate himself from his real estate holdings, including the fate of the deal kushner was pursuing after the election with the chinese firm and bank to redevelop his building at 666 fifth avenue. Kushner declined to address those concerns tonight when asked by nbcs kelly odonnell. Reporter mr. Kushner, will you fully divest of your Family Business in order to serve in the white house . Any concerns about the nepotism laws, sir, in serving in your fatherinlaws administration . Will you comment at all, sir, on what youre going to do as far as the Family Business . Were not going to be commenting. Meanwhile, trumps secretary of state nomination Rex Tillerson facing new skut any after usa today reported tillerson as exxons ceo they did work with iran, sudan while under u. S. Sanctions of state terrorism. Wall street journal reported new conflicts related to Donald Trumps debts. They have disclosed 315 million in debt to other company but a new analysis from the journal another 1. 5 billion of previously undisclosed debt is also connect canned to trump. That debt is held by more than 150 different financial institutions. According to trevor potter, who served as general counsel to the campaigns of bush 41 and john mccain, quote, the problem with any of this debt is that if something goes wrong and if theres a situation when the president is suddenly personally beholden or vulnerable to threats from the lenders. The potential conflicts facing Jared Kushner, Rex Tillerson and trump himself are all likely to be brought up two days can from now, when donald trump, in theory, holds his First Press Conference in 167 days, if it takes place, but democrats arent convinced trump and his team will take meaningful steps to address these concerns. Today democrats in both chambers of commerce took matters into in Congress Took matters into their own hands. They introduced a bill that would address at least one of these issues. Trumps business conflicts. The bill would effectively force trump to fully divest from his business interests by subjecting him to conflict of interest laws that currently exempt the president. The legislation looks to require the president , the Vice President , their spouses and minor or dependent children to divest all interests that create financial conflicts of interest, placing those assets in a true blind trust. According to senator elizabeth warrens office, one of the cosponsors, that would be the case if it passes. Joining me now are andrew rice, contributing editor to new York Magazine who penned the cover story this week, and also david k. Johnson, pulitzer writer who founded a nonprofit News Organization that covers the Trump Administration and david corn, msnbc political analyst. Thank you for being here. An drushgs you wrote this pretty extensive review of Jared Kushners life and business career. What kinds of potential conflicts are out there based on the business that he does both in new york and in his companies writ large . I dont think the potential conflicts are all that different than any new york developer might have, but that said, its as weve seen with trump himself, its a difficult thing because its not just like selling stock. If you own a 1. 8 billion office building, like he does at 666 fifth, its difficult to sort of just cash out of that. The big revelation over the weekend, which i cant claim credit for, the New York Times reported that a mysterious held Chinese Insurance Firm that owns the waldorf astoria. And there have been some concerns as to whether it has some connections to Chinese Government or intelligence, you know, theyre negotiating to buy a big piece of this building. The question is, will kushner in some way be beholden to this company because hes trying to get them to pay him money for their building. And that he was trying to do business with them after the election was over. So, he was aware of the fact that hes probably the most influential adviser to his fatherinlaw. Hes literally making decisions on who stays in and who gets pushed out, just ask chris christie, and yet hes still trying to cut a deal with this firm after the election. It seems like were maybe turning into americas stan. You know, some sort of audit autocracy, and trump and his people around him are not taking it seriously. Trump is conflicted, not legally, but in real terms conflicted are so many fronts. Jared kushner, not just on the antinepotism law, which is silly because youre not allowed to hire your relatives if you run a federal agency. His lawyers are arguing, well, the white house isnt a federal agency, although it has been interpreted as such under other laws. And theres just no seriousness on the part of the trump family, the trump team, the Transition Team in dealing with these issues. Trump owes hundreds of millions of dollars to people we dont even know all his creditors and some are foreign creditors. Bank of china, deutsche bank. Its very serious. And yet the republicans arent raising an issue on this. And trump is steamrolling his conflicts of interests and those of his nominees. You know, david, its worse than not taking it seriously. You seem to see the trump family flouting the laws, the traditions, they just dont seem to care. Earlier this evening our colleague my colleague Chris Matthews said theyre making a Family Business of government. Andrew wrote a piece that deals with kushners business dealings, lenders around the globe, immigrants investing via cash visa program and likely to come under great scrutiny that hes trying to disentangle it but can we disentanning it will in, what, two days . No. And were not going to. Joy, what were seeing here is trump being trump. A man who has no regard for anyone else. No regard for norms or propriety. I think having Jared Kushner there might be a good thing. Trump cant complain he made mistakes or errors because he didnt have the advisers he wanted to have. That makes him more vulnerable in the future if he screws up. Secondly, Jared Kushner may well provide a force that will help deal with what i, assure you, is going to be increasingly erratic behavior by trump once he has to actually deal with issues. Remember, hes having a great time right now appointing people and humiliating people. He doesnt have any responsibilities yet. So, if kushner providing a force to help stabilize him, that will be good for the country. If trump wants these people as advisers, let him have them and lets see what happens. Andrew, you write kushner is often the last person in the room with him. We know from your reporting and others often the last person in the room with donald trump is the person who gets their way. So, what kind of adviser are we talking about . Where is he on the spectrum of steef bannon is a right wing, christian, nationalist, populist, whatever he is calling himself these days. Where is Jared Kushner on the idealogical scale . Bannon sort of comes at this as he has sort of a defined philosophy and he sees trump as a vehicle for achieving that philosophy. Kushner comes from the opposite perspective. Hes there to fulfill the desires of donald trump, his fatherinlaw. And so that leads him in the direction of supporting these populist kind of ideas. So i dont think hes really so much an idealog as hes there to just kind of serve the interests of his fatherinlaw, the president elect. You know, david corn, have you been able to get a handle on which wing of trump world is going to be the most influential on policy and will any of the wings of trump world even have a Second Thought of concern about these incredible conflicts . Trump could be in debt to a bank in a country that were in conflict with . And his business deals with people overseas, who we might have different Foreign Policy priorities. Its highly problematic. At this stage its been interesting. Kushner, you know, thanks to andrews piece and others, has taken a little more at least has a higher profile than during the campaign and steve bannon has been very quiet. I think maybe worryingsomely so in the last couple of weeks. Since trump himself doesnt seem to have any policy core, any real ideas he wants to talk about or advance, maybe other than the wall, i think when you talk about the wings, you know, fighting with each other, its going to be a tremendous freefall within the trump world in terms of policy, whether its Foreign Policy, domestic policy, tax policy, you know, paul ryans moving ahead with privatizing medicare when that was something that donald trump said he didnt want to do. But yet theyre taking it seriously. Joy, theres nothing here to keep in mind. I think what andrew rices aerial points out very clearly is Jared Kushner is crucial to enabling trump to say one thing and do another. Thats what my new organization is going to focus on, what he does, not what he says. Weve had way too much coverage of trump tweeting. More focus on what he does. Kushner is going to be crucial to allow trump to say one thing and do another. Well see. Thank you all. Appreciate it. Thank you. Coming up, meryl streep once again proved last night how easy it is to get under Donald Trumps skin. Liz winstead is here. One of Donald Trumps most controversial nominees is Jeff Sessions for attorney general. Civil Rights Groups are worried sessions could do a lot of damage. North carolina naacp leader William Barber is here to discuss. U, saving money on your Medicare Part d prescriptions. At walgreens we make it easy for you to seize the day by helping you get more out of life and Medicare Part d. Now with zerodollar copays on select plans. 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It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter, someone he outranked in privilege, power and the capacity to fight back. It it kind of broke my heart when i saw it. And i still cant get it out of my head because it wasnt in a movie. It was real life. And this instinct to humiliate, when its modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everyones life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing. Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose. Donald trump called can the threetime oscar winner, who also holds the record for the most oscar nominations, most golden globe nominations and most golden globe wins, overrated. He also tweeted he, quote, never mocked a disabled reporter, would never do that, but simply showed him, quote, groveling. Heres the video of trump mocking that reporter played side by side with a photo of the reporter so you can decide for yourself what donald trump was mocking. Now, the poor guy, you got to see this poor guy. I dont know what i said. Ahh, i dont remember. Hes going, i dont remember. Maybe thats what i said. Joining us is tre and liz winstead. Well, my friends, i have to play for you Kellyanne Conway for the defense. Her defense of donald trump, what you just saw, that video of him clearly mocking that reporter, this was Kellyanne Conways defense on cnn this morning. Is she wrong that it was wrong for trump to make gestures about that is not what he did. As he tweeted look at the video. You cant give him the benefit of the doubt on this . And hes tlg you what was in his heart. You always want to go by whats come out of his mouth than his heart. Thoughts . Dont believe your lying eyes listening to his words and demanding that he live up to the things that he say, shame on you. Also looking at the video. It was clear what he was doing. Liz, its not just that he did it. It was the clear glee and enjoyment that he got out of mocking that disabled reporter and mocking him for something he cannot help. He clearly enjoyed it. Now hes pretending he didnt do it. Three times. And its like you cant talk about gaslighting enough, it feels. When someone is telling you this isnt happening and then theres people doubling down who are the spokes people for the person saying, why dont listen to whats in his heart . Because his heart is not saying anything. His actions and words are saying both things. His heart doesnt speak. His voice does. Once again we have a citizen speaking from her heart saying this is all problematic. Not just you specifically but trump is of this notion of bullying people and taking power over people and he attacks the person he feels attacked by this critique. It is not delivered in strident ways. If he says shes one of the greatest actors it neutralizes the whole thing. What you saw didnt happen, shes overrated, which we know is not real, makes him seem small. Just literally in 2015, which is one year before, he mocked the reporter. He was saying, julia rob erlts is terrific and many others, meryl streep is excellent. He contradicts himself. Thats out the window. What do you make of the reaction from some conservatives . I was flabbergasted by the reaction on twitter to what meryl streep did. My daughter and i watched it and welled up in tears. Megan mccain tweeted, this meryl streep speech. He mocked his father during the campaign. Is she saying were not to were to say thats okay . First of all, she never said the word trump. In her entire speech. But its clear she meant it. Of course. But she was smart enough to talk about the actions of a human and his actions. I think that is such a smart, touching, wise thing to do. She wasnt demonizing the man. She was saying, this persons actions did this. Everybody knew it was trump. Bu