Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell April 8, 2017

We show up here with nothing planned and i listen to whats going on. Tonight i showed up with something planned to say. You ruined it. [ laughter ] i listened again rachel. Bless your heart and other parts. All right, all right. [ laughter ] i didnt know i can get you to say that again. Okay. So so, i am going to try Say Something that i planned to say. And what i planned to say is would it be nice if it was just completely totally, absolutely impossible to suspect that Vladimir Putin orchestrated what happened in syria this week so that his friends in the white house could have a big night, with missiles and all of the preys he picked up over the last 24 hours. Would it be so nice if he could not even in your wildest dreams imagine a scenario. Would it be great that we can go back being a sitcom plot. I dont know what it is, is it a 2 chance or 50 chance i dont know. I dont think it is a zero percent chance and it used to be with every other president s prior to donald trump. How will we find out if it is true. With the ongoing Counter Intelligence investigation of this president s campaign in terms of whether or not he colluded with russia. Maybe he will answer that with jerome aames comey. Thank you, rachel. Republicans questioned back. They questioned whether that was to distract attention from the moni moni Monica Lewinsky scandal. You could not get through the story without having the president come up. The president was involved in the scandal. The missile changed the subject and as missile always changed the subject. So tonight we have some questions of the motivations of everyone involved in what has happened inside syria. The United States took a measured step last night. We are prepared to do more. Shes clearly telegraphing a deeper involvement in syria which again several days ago was not a key priority to the Trump Administration. I am distrust full how quickly it is frankly not helpful to launch a small scale attack and continue a policy of denying exit from syria to the millions of children and parents, i think the parents posed at the American People to come to congress. North korea is a lot of very potential bad problems will be going away. There is a danger right now. It will be that the u. S. Is expressing too much confidence. There is a reason thats hard to figure this out. It is complicated and there are millions of people suffering in meanwhile. It is perfect just perfect, i wish it was not. If Vladimir Putin, if if, if he master minded the last week in syria . Hes gotten everything he could have asked for. Vladimir putin was essentially the man in charge of making sure syria got rid of all of his chemical weapons under the deal of Obama Administration so it makes perfect sense to question whether Bashar Alassad would have of his most before using chemic chemical weapons that Vladimir Putin would help to get rid of. You would not want to be Bashar Alassad in the conversation with Vladimir Putin after that. Unless, you had a conversation with him before that. Unless, Vladimir Putin said i have an idea, go ahead. Do a small chemical attack, nothing like the big ones you have done in the past. Just big enough to attract Media Attention so that my friends in the white house will see it on tv and then donald trump can fire some missiles at syria, thatll do damage and the American News media will change the subject from russian influenced and the Trump Campaign and the transition and the white house. It is perfect. It does not just change the subject. For most over the news, it changes the conventional wisdom of the dynamic between Vladimir Putin and donald trump, President Trump has finally dared to do something that Vladimir Putin does not like. It shachanges everything. As long as you never, never question whether Vladimir Putin wanted all of this happens. When you question that and you look at what has happened, it is always worth remember. If Vladimir Putin really does have ways known or unknown to drup donald trump to influence donald trump, everyday is a good day for President Trump and president putin. Not one word that i have just said could possibly set of any president prior to donald trump. Dont you miss those days when if it is a chemical attack in syria, you can be absolutely sure that president assad and putin did not do that in order to help the image of the president of the United States. That, that is the world that donald trump has given. Thats the range of possibility that donald trump have given us. You will hear opinions at this hour thats contrary to the possible scenario that i just talked about. But you wont hear is proof that scenario that i just outlined is impossible because what the presidency of donald trump has shown is that donald trump, anything is possible. You have heard puns on television reaching for the momentum as they always do. Reaching the line for better or worse will get your attention. You have heard the profound announcement that last night donald trump became president of the United States. When donald trump does something routine and something that most president s would have done and how president ial the president will become. They are embarrassed to ever occupy the white house. We went through the cycle before when the president address the congress and read every word of his telepromter after he instantly declared he has just became the United States. And four days after that, he tweeted terrible just found out that Obama Wiretapped in trump tower just before the victory. Now, we wait for that and we look back to the days where we can be certain and i mean 100 certain that Vladimir Putin did not conspire to kill people as a way of helping the images of the president of the United States. Joining us now our political analyst and republican strategists of daily news and columnist for the boston globe and the Pointer Institute for media studies. And i raise this and i raise it without signing statistical probability to it, i dont know what it is. I know it is not zero and when you look at the way the events unfolded this week, donald trump could not have asked for a better end of the week for his presidency as he sees it. This is a problem of probability. When any white house or politician has a problem of telling the truth or caught in repeated lies then, of course, the public is going to have trouble believing them. Thats why the scenario that you spun, i dont abide by it. Nobody as you say can say it is untrue. We have no way of disproving it and anyone thinking at all possible because we have reasons to doubt because so many crazy things have happened. He did alert the russians to it. They called it deconflicting. The russians backing assad would have alerted the syrians to this and allow syrians to get out of place before these air strikes happen. On the one hand, yes, President Trump did send a strong message. At the same time it was a message where the consequences for the russians and syrians were reduced, thats for sure. They use weapons that wont harm the runways of that airfields. They know exactly how much they are limiting the damage to the airfield if putin wants the trumps presidency to succeed, he will have find ways to help him out. Well, yes, perhaps, there is talks about work ng the sanctions and russians. The word that i am thinking about tonight is f. If you know obama had done anything like this, an impact launched and it is a good thing that you tell the russians first so it does not escalate. The next day as it was reported today of the syrians using the same air base to strike against targets and rebels, the republicans would be calling obama feckless. This did not do anything and signal much. I do think while a lot of pu pundents and there is a lot to several this one episode. I dont think a few days from now or a week or two from now, it may not looked glorious. Lets listen to nikki haley it could be that russia had been incompetent in its efforts to remove chemical weapons. It could be that the assad regime is playing the russians for fools. The world is waiting for russia reconsider with miss placed alliance with Bashar Alassad. The United States will no longer wait for assad using chemical weapons without consequences. Those days are over. And it can also be that Vladimir Putin was comlicit and aware of this attack. Vladimir putin is a classic checkest and this check, i put zero path of Vladimir Putin in this sort of thing and the fact the matter is the emotional reaction by donald trump this week to set off a one and done attack. People are way interpreting the consequences of this in the short and longterm. I dont think this means anything to putin. I think hes laughing all the way to the bank on this. He does not care that trump got a little credit for it. He likes that. It does not do anything to change the actual behavior of the assad regime and it does not dism dism dismiss the clients status to russia. I dont think it moved the ball at all and bang, bang, and woosh, woosh, you got to turn the key. I dont think it did anything beyond that. And if there is no real russian response beyond Vladimir Putins mandatory statement saying it is an active of aggression. Might not donald trump and the white house be grateful that there was no larger response from russia in this and could that then mean hands off russia in syria. I mean, sure, trump does not want to escalate this into a problem in the United States and russia. The bottom line here is we have to look at the broader question of all of this. What is trumps actual policy in syria . My column in todays paper, what i wrote about is it is hard to send a message if you dont have a message to send. Donald trumps policy to syria, four years ago when it was the first chemical weapon attack, he sent out this tweet storm to president obama which he says dont strike, dont strike assad. Dont do this it is going to be disaster. It is a mess, adopt dont it an he does the opposite. It seems like trump is doing opposite of what obama would do. In fact, fewer people were killed in this of this chemical weapon attack than the last one of four years ago. The e requequestion is, his peo haley and tillerson can stand in power and now theyre saying that assad can leave. Whats the next move . Its got to be sanction and diplomacies. At the end of the day, wars does not end with war strikes. It ends with negotiations. They have to have a plan b. A few days ago, theyre letting assad staying in power and now theyre doing air strikes. Quickly on my flight from washington to boston tonight, both senator marky and senator warren were on the same flight. Both of them are clear that the president has to come to congress in terms of an operation of more military source. The president is ready to do more. I think hes going to find congress of letting him do more without asking for permission. I am reserving my seat on the friday night washington flight on friday night. It was a good one. David, the possibility here that no one of the administration had a hint of policy. Rex tillerson had no hint of a policy, and suddenly now hes saying to the russians, which is what we need the syria and this is someone who had not given a thought prior to tuesday. Well, this is war by impulse. Donald trump has the policy so to speak for a couple of years and dont do anything and he changed his mind. There was no strategy beyond the attack, rex tillerson, is due to see putin, soon. What is he going to say . What is the policy here . What is the policy by any other region . What mattis the policies in terf iraq and iran . It is not about policy for donald trump. David. Go ahead, rick. This is policy by impulse. What you saw was an action and not a policy. This was a moment where john mccain and marco rubio and Lyndsey Graham for ages saying we have to have a policy against assad regime and defeat them, for one moment donald trump did something that was in that way. That does not mean hes going to stay there. Hes impulsive. Hes got an Attention Span of zero ability to focus. By tomorrow, we can be back to crazy tweet town. I dont think hes ever thought it through. There is competing mattis and my understanding now of a little bit of tillerson want more nuance thing and bannon wants to keep assad in power. This is administration thats by different of schools of thought. David is right. He saw terrible picture, turn the key and launch the missiles. I dont think this is considered in any way. I want to thank you all for joining us. Thanks a lot. Coming up, the war within the white house, Stephen Bannon verses Donald Trumps soninlaw. Let me think, i think i know who i am betting on. flourish spray noise flourish spray noise flourish spray noise flourish spray noise the joy of real cream in 15 calories per serving. Enough said. Reddiwip. flourish spray noise share the joy. When a fire destroyed everything in our living room. We replaced it all without touching our savings. Yeah, our insurance wont do that. 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Those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. With less pain, i can be more active. Ask your doctor about lyrica. Russia is supposed to have remove all the chemical weapons from syria. Of cour obviously, that has not happened. As syrians continue to be murdered in chemical attacks. Officials are now investigating russias involvement in the chemical attack. Vladimir putins spokesperson says the strikes damaged next week, the Trump Administration is coveragschedu have a meeting with russia. Our expert at the u. S. Anywnava college and David Phillip hoff of the washington post. David, what do you suppose is the likelihood that president assad would have launched a chemical attack without Vladimir Putins knowledge or approval . Well, there is always a theory that president assad does not want any peace agreement. He wants to win the war out right. Putin has been trying a peace deal in turkey ariran. It now, hes the guy back so i can totally imagine assad being who he is and putin being shocked as anybody about it. Now, hes in a position to back that guy and as i stand down of my decision of peace broker. It is terrible for putin. What would be in that scenario. What would be putins choice . He just said we are going to turn on the line of communication that prevents air confrontation and air traps. There is that root. How do we know if somebody is not shooting somebody down. There is the root next week when secretary of state tillerson comes in and saying that we got to back off our support and coming to an agreement of the National Community to condemn this. Everything we talked about with putin and trump of whats going to happen when there is a military confrontation between these two disrupters and chiefs. It seems to me that it is hard for putin to back away with his guy at this point. Tom nicolls, Vladimir Putin is assad most important spotter. Putin guaranteed the removal of chemical weapons and assad uses chemical weapons. Would he use those given all of that and given putins correct responsibility on those chemical weapons. Would he have used those without checking and saying that i have this in mind . The it is quite possible. The Russian Military in syria cannot keep tabs on Bashar Alassad all day long. Assad runs his own country and military. This is not he douse not have to go to the kremlin for permission to do bad things. As david just said, hes put putin in a terrible position. Putin is a mafia guy. Hes a mob boss. It may well be that putin decided at least this once because his guy did this thing against the boss interest that hes got to take a beating but maybe not repeated beating which is why putin turn off the deconflicting channels. Vladimir putins Statement Today act of aggression and international law, it did not sound like there was any real powerful language in that. Exactly. It is as much as anyone could have said without actually operating anything aggressive or without threatening to do something. Even turning off that line o f the conflicting line does not amount to aggressions. Lets not forget, there is

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