Train station. Madison square garden is right on top of it. Its that kind of layered construction. The Train Station went through a huge reconstruction and Manchester Arena is no more than that years old. Camera crews and civilians were out talking to eyewitnesss and media immediately after the blast, we want to bring you some of that. I said it was non balloon. Who told you it was a balloon. Staff, to stop us. How did you manage to get out . Told us to be cabin and a few
youre reminded listening to the accidents of people who are still in the moment reacting to this, that manchester is in a unique part of the country. It has whales to the west, approximately, scotland to the north. It is part of the northern uk, an Industrial City and proud of it. Yeah, brian, i guess the equivalent of the u. S. Would be the u. S. This is an Old Industrial type part of the uk, sort of, following disrepair for decades and since undergone a surgery. These are Salt Of The Earth people, good big moment class revelation. A lot of new industry moving into that area as well. At this concert, as you mentioned, i think, this arena is massive. It holds 21,000 people. Its the biggest arena in the uk and biggest in europe. You would have had people coming from all of the around to uk to go to this area. The third stop in her tour of just the uk. She had played some dates in other parts of europe. This was a big, big deal for these young people and sort of industrial and northern india. Good whole some, you know, families headed out for a great night of entertainment for teenage girls, teenage boys. Bombs and dad going with their kid and then, of course, this happened. We see a lot of this social media video showing just kind of a panic that happened after that explosion was heard. You know, a sold out concert and brian, a packed arena. The final son had already been song and left the stage, one of the fans told us she had gone, the lights were on, people were heading for the exits when they heard this blast. One young woman who spoke to us they thought it was a small drop. They didnt realize the full extent of what was happening until they got out of that arena. You know, this seems on the outside now as we understand the blast did happen outside, according to an ree na statement, it happened at a public space. This seen is very much different from inside the concert hall. One man told local station here that he was there to pick up his wife and daughter and that he was fairly close to the glass thats thrown 30 feet and afterwards saw the aftermath. Others talk about seeing fans
bloodied on their faces. We eve seen pictures of young people and adults walking around, walking wounded with damage around their knees, ripped to jeans, volunteer First Responder told us that theyve been treating shrapnel like injuries thats when we got the sense that this was something very sinister, that this was, potentially, an explosion. We have since learned, as you know, brian, multiple u. S. Law enforcement sources telling nbc news theyve been briefed by uk officials and saying this was appears to have been the work of a Suicide Bomber and based on forensic after evidence at the scene, brian, they believe they know who the bomber is. We dont have any ideas yet. We have a tore numbers. We havent heard anything sense in doubt, the investigative work
is in full force at this very early saul ri. Kelly, here with the scene from there and what its been like this whole evening long as weve gone through the slow realization that this was, in fact, what we all feared it was and that is investigators are pointing to a single acting alone, that is, Suicide Bomber at one of the, potentially one of the main exits. Were joined in the staud yi by Police Commissioner bill. Commissioner when you hear kelly report, again, sources of the investigating world i know who this is, i know what this is. What does it take for them to be able to say that, first and second what is our relationship for people who are just joining our coverage and talked about this a little bit earlier, whats our relationship with the uk back in forth . Relationship with the uk
really seamless and i can speak from personal instruction. The intelligence services, the coordination, slab ration that has to be pretty significantly after 9 11. In terms to quickly identify individual those are on air and in policy. Two thoughts there that one well let you be fact of how that technology is. Youll start to think that it may have had a suspect or suspects in line. They tend to match up very quickly because what they had going into the small scene. They had a stream of Information Available intelligence and Police Services before this event, that will be
part of the investigation of the days ahead. But we get better at this all the time. Well have to pace these events. What are they saying, Law Enforcement, terrorist only has to get lucky once, but Law Enforcement have to be lucky every single time. Thank you very much. Our Senior National security analyst and a former deputy National Security adviser, four terrorism for president george w. Bush. More on this intelligence sharing. Were not critiquing the finding that kelly was reporting from someone in your line of work that they have some degree of sernd, whats behind this and who this was and how can that be possible in such show amount of
time. I think bill has a right. I think the british authorities are incredibly good at their work. Theyre tracking a number of individuals of concern. This seems to suggest that this may be an individual that was on the radar screen, or at least that they had information about or bio me tricks and other available information. Want to be very quick in these cases. They want to find out what they know, not only about this attack in particular, but they want to make sure that they understand what the Support Networks are around this individual, this attack. Nothing else is a pace. Nothing else is unforming. So i think theres going to be more information coming out understanding that this theyre going to dig hard into who this individual is. His Social Ned Work and any communication with other suspect
individual or even isis or al qaeda elements that may have been either training him, inspiring him or even directing him in this attack. Theres much more to be learned. But the fact that british authorities think that theyve identified this individual, u. S. Authorities are tracking that as well. Very significant sign and certainly a demonstrate of great capability to do this this quickly in the wake of such a horrific account. They really the art form of flooding the zone with cameras for digital imagery. When that happened, when that error broke and when they kind of debuted their system. It was people from the nypd who traveled to london, looked around. Society debates constantly, as it should, the exchange of privacy for safety in a free society. But what are the rules governing
immature theyve got six angles before this and lets assume, getting his face out there, would help for people wondering, do you have you seen this, does this ring a bell . Well, its a great point, brian. British authorities will use whatever authorities they have ability. Their system allows them access to several advantage points, no doubt. Theyre going to be looking not only to what they can do to identify this individual at the point of the attack, but whether or not they can spot others who may have supported, dropped off or been a part of this particular and that. Theyll be pouring over whatever footage they have available. To your point about privacy and security, you know, the british have been criticized for this coverage and i think for every open society, the debate, how
much security is enough. Its impossible that an open society to prevent these kind of attacks. There is the work of intelligence gathering, which is probably the longful here in the tent here, you try to understand who the suspects are, you try to understand where the threats are coming from to try to prevent this from happening to begin with. To the extent you have capabilities like footage in public arena like boyfriend you try to use that to maximum efficiency to ensure there arent other attacks as well as to deter those who are trying to perpetrate these kind of attacks to begin with. Its an important question, because every society, including the United States have to grapple with, how much are we really for us to know beforehand, how much information is gathered and then how much surveillance are we allowing the public arena and Public Square to allow authorities to react in
an on fortunate attack. British authorities have come to a balance, that, obviously, a question for the u. S. Still moving forward, how much security is enough, especially when terrorists are going after shortfallings. You cant blame them for being part of our coverage. We within the to welcome back jonathan. What were covering political news. We just joined us looking for the 11th hour we will also be doing here tonight, theres plenty of that. First this Breaking News from manchester, jeremy, former Chief Of Staff and cia and defense. Jeremy, i asked you earlier, what gets lit up and what gets turned on on a night like this given the close relationship between u. S. And u. S. Airport. Fingerprint from the individual who conducted the attack, ill take that and run
it through the database and come up with a name. That name will go through a number of databases, e ours is called the Data Environment tied. Its run by the National Terrorism center. The uk authorities, their internal Service Works with all the other partners in the world. Theyll try to match that name with any other aspect of known terrorist network. I predict theyll use that name, identify an address, probably somewhere in the uk and youll see Armoured Rain Forest by the uk, police, apparent military s. W. A. T. Teams, theyll remove and theyll introduce the home, z and i told you about that. Reporter theyll take evidence. Theyll take fgs. They will look at Electronic Holdings of the intelligence,
remail it suspect, phone intercepts. Within hours well have more information of sent to us this person is tied to another network. Well talk about whether he acted alone, was directing. Ive been looking through previous Terrorist Attacks here the last several months. If you look at Truck Attacks in sweden april 2017, truck attack in berlin. Knife attacks the Niece Truck Attack that killed 36. Those were lone individuals operating a truck, handgun, a knife something they can get in their every day life. Its attacks that provide high powered explosives like the aware in turkey, the attack in brussels i kept telling them 32. Its gng to march. The attack in paris, of course, they killed 89 and over all paris in those individuals
are part of a network. Theyre part of a terrorist organization, inspired or directed by other people who want to do harm against civilians. I think it has me tonight based on the fact the use of explosives, based on the fact this individual went to a place where they knew it would be several hundred Brilliant Surveillances working on. This has to be the hypothesis tonight. Grien, again, you will see all of these activities lead up to a Targeting Package and understand of entertainment, youll see steel on target, iraq as a result of this, if in fact, its connected to isis. Jeremy bash thank you so much for being part of our coverage tonight. For those of you watching just when official word came in from manchester, we had been talking about a block bruce ter, which
we are minutes away from getting to ourselves. Thats when our investigative producer had been on the air talking about president ial politics. And ken asked me, preston, the serena, getting that all you can about this investigation. What have you learned . All right. I just spoke to u. S. Intelligence official. If you see a complex ball, does that suggest network, the answer is yes it very well mike. There are instances where isis is now walking through people taking Bomb Making Instructions online. I think theyre showing the ability to recruit, disturb individuals or take them to the steps to get to radicalization and get to operational ability on line. But in either scenario folks are telling me, were likely to see a situation where encryption was used. Thats going to raise questions,
theres a lot of something hear. There may have been a point where some of the Terrorist Use encryption to disguise their plotting. If it wasnt themselves or lie sis, from intelligent services. Its becoming running into debate in this country, you know, find a way to penetrate that. Is there absolute right to have your conversations secure from government, surveillance or not and thats going to continue. I had one official say to me tonight, in the reassuring tone, that by this time tomorrow, the brits will know everything this person ever surged searched on google and when and what the result was. I think that may be ha they didnt know in time is whether this person was communicating either with
terrorist abroad. Unfortunately they didnt know it in time to stop this attack. While weve been recording, United States command has announcing a raid into yemen that killed seven, aqpl 10, just another reminder that the u. S. At war against terrorist around the war. Thank you. Also unrelated to this incident or so we hope was the visual all day long until about dinner time east coast time when we realized our news day and our coverage was about to change because of Breaking News out of manchester. But previously, all day long the news was about the president s trip to the middle east, a trip that started in saudi arabia and a trip that took him to israel today. The problem is, d the
problem, again, the news from back home in the u. S. That continues to follow this president and this administration, and, again, today it was the Washington Post that was out with another bomb shell report, quoting from the Washington Report Headline Tonight trump asked intelligence chiefs to push back against fbi Collusion Probe after comey revealed its existence. This report says, back in march, trump made separate appeals to the director of National Intelligence and to Michael Rogers director of National Security agency. Urging them to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election. The report goes on the new revelations and to a growing body of evidence that trump sought to coopt and then under
mine comey before he fired him, may not explain. Connecticut senior also that statement added this point. It adds additional mounting powerful evidence of a cover up and obstruction of justice. What is really significant about it is, that its cumulative on the issue of intent because donald trump Donald Trumps defendants said he didnt mean any harm when he questioned comey, he didnt mean what he said. This repeated attempt to stifle investigative work, stop the truth from coming out, eventually becomes evidence of intent. All of it mounting evidence of powerful undeniable dimensions and it goes to the issue of intent. Again, that was part of the news that went into this day and earlier today we learn mike
flynn will invoke the Fifth Amendment in response to a subpoena requesting documents about his ties and contacts with rush shachlt well talk more about this a little later on. Flynn was also accused in a letter today, Elijah Cumming of lying to Security Clearance investigators back in 2016 about being paid by russian media. Those payments were for an appearance at a now well chronical dinner honoring Vladimir Putin in December Of 2018 for our tea, Russian Television here. Here with us tonight discuss it eli, wall street journal, bost in globe columness, ethics chair at the pointer institute. And plit skoliticpolitico, mich. Mike, youll get the first question tonight what just
happened today . Well, brian, its another log on the fire. I assume were talking about the latest reports particularly this Washington Post appreciate it. What it does is, you know, just build out as if we needed any more evidence that this president doesnt seem to respect or care about traditional boundaries that should limit him, that should restrict him from Ongoing Investigation at a minimum, i think the most charitable thing you can say when you read this story, hes a very wealthy man and use to picking up the phone and getting things done and New York City and in his real estate deals and he thinks that works to a better investigation that involves nefarious influence by a foreign power, but then you see, you know, senator blumenthal gets in front of it. You see it brian, somewhat married in that story. Below the name, which describes
trump asking two Senior Intelligence officials to come out and essentially say hes not under investi