Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell October 26, 2017

Thats how it works. You dont actually have to tell people to trust your unbelievable assertion because youre a smart person if you just show people what it is that youre showing them. If you just proof things along the way. Its easier that way and you dont have to remember your grades from seventh grade or whatever in case you count on this. Okay. Youre just going to leave out any claims of great Educational Achievement or you just leave that out . Show your work. Go with the work . Everybody. We can all do it together no matter where you went to school. One way of doing it. Thank you. Thank you. Well, the president has more than one super power. The president insisted today that his memory of his condolence call to the widow of Sergeant La David Johnson is perfectly accurate. And sergeant johnsons widows memory of that call is completely wrong. And donald trump claims to have a super power to prove that he is right. Internal strife is tearing the Republican Party apart at the seams. We have actually great unity in the Republican Party. Great unity, tremendous unity. So much unity. Pretty good unity. Donald trump might think he had a love fest with the republican senators yesterday. I called it a love fest. It was almost a love fest. Maybe it was a love fest. I spoke with a few last night. They were rolling their eyes. The president by some counts has personally insulted one in five republican senators in his conference. We cant continue to just remain silent when the president keeps going on like this. Im really glad to see someone like jeff flake speak up but what really matters are not words, its the actions. You know, people dont understand. I went to an ivy league college. Im like very intelligent person. We have had too many of these emperor has no clothes moments. I think that theres a real lack of imagination among all of those senators who were cheering like sycophants yesterday about the possibility for a real tragedy caused by reckless actions by this president of the United States. Intelligence is hard to measure. It might be impossible to measure. Iq tests were an attempt to evaluate students intelligence when donald trump was a kid but theyve been largely abandoned because its a fluid brain function that cannot be reliably captured for everyone in any test. S. A. T. Tests are really just tests of knowledge, not intelligence. You can memorize your very high scores on s. A. T. But the capacity of memorization is not intelligence. Machines can memorize. Once you begin to try to describe what intelligence is, you see the difficulty of trying to measure it. But donald trump, of course, knows none of this. Donald trump firmly believes that intelligence is measurable and describable, especially his own. I went to an ivy league college. I was a nice student. I did very well. Im a very intelligent person. There are murderers who went to ivy League Colleges. There are rapists that went to the schools, tax criminals. Ivy League Colleges produced just about every kind of criminal you can think of since the first one opened the doors 381 doors ago and since donald trump seems to believe that ivy League Colleges use meshible intelligence in their admissions process he must then believe that the ivy League Colleges that have always and forever been regarded as better than the one he went to require even more intelligence to get into than donald trump has. For people who keep score about this sort of thing, which is to say, the trumps of this world, harvard, yale, princeton, columbia always ranked so far above wharton, so proud to claim and not so proud to claim him. Now that he tries to use his college as the proof of the intelligence, it is very, very hard if not impossible to prove intelligence. But proving a lack of intelligence is much, much easier. Heres a perfect example. Im a very intelligent person. That functions as a proof of the opposite. No intelligent person says im a very intelligent person. Bill gate who is went to harvard and made more than donald trump and donald trump seems to consider a measure of intelligence never said im a very intelligent person. Einstein didnt say im a very intelligent person. Einstein certainly heard a lot of other people say that about him. Barack obama who went to colombia and Harvard Law School never said im a very intelligent person. Bill clinton a rode scholar and Yale Law School graduate never said im a very intelligent person. The only president whos ever said im a very intelligent person is the president with the least fluency in the english language and the provably smallest vocabulary. I had the best words. A few minutes after saying i am a very intelligent person, before boarding a helicopter on the white house lawn, donald trump once again disputed what Myeshia Johnson said about his condolence call for her husbands loss in combat. It made me cry because i was very angry about the tone of his voice. He couldnt remember my husband name. And after listening to her say that, here is what the president said about that today. I was really nice to her. I respect her. I respect her family. I certainly respect la david. Who i by the way called la david right from the beginning. They put a chart in front. La david. Says la David Johnson. No hesitation. One of the great memories of all time. No hesitation. I think shes a fantastic woman. I was extremely nice to her. Extremely respectful. So his defense on remembering the name is that they put a chart front of him with the name. How could he possibly have failed to mention the name la David Johnson . So, i thought right from the beginning no hesitation. One of the great memories of all time. There was no hesitation. I think shes a fantastic woman. I was extremely nice to her. Extremely respectful. One of the great memories of all time. What does that mean . For donald trump, a condolence call to a grieving widow whos lost her husband in combat whose body could not be recovered for two days, for donald trump thats one of the great memories of all time . That call for donald trump was like a little kid watching his Favorite Team win the world series . One of the great memories of all time. Thats what that sentence actually means in the flow of those sentences. But because donald trump is such a lazy and incompetent user of the english language, it could mean something else. Donald trump speaks quickly in order to prevent interruptions but he is very, very lazy about including every word that a sentence or a paragraph needs to make sense or every word that a sentence needs to convey what he actually might mean. And so, some trump scholars looking at that line one of the great memories of all time, jammed in the middle of his description of that phone call, might read that to be a disjointed trump boast about how great his memory is. Therefore, donald trump is right. Myeshias johnson is wrong because its impossible for the widow of the Army Sergeant to have a better memory than someone that went to an ivy league college, has high intelligence and the greatest memory of all time. I have no no doubt people still tonight Trump Supporters believe that there is absolutely no comparison between Myeshia Johnsons memory and one of the great memories of all time. The memory that belongs to donald trump. People who are still Trump Supporters seem to believe in Donald Trumps personal superiority over everyone including themselves. In all things, wealth, intelligence, memory. Republican senator jeff flake was never a believer in donald trump. He boldly refused to endorse donald trump in the Campaign Last year even after trump was the republican nominee and senator flake disclosed that he did not vote for donald trump on election day and response to senator flakes eloquent speech against the president in the senate yesterday when the senator announced that he would not be running for reelection, donald trump decided that the best way to handle jeff flake today was the classic trumpian way. It was to simply lie about him. He wrote a book about me before i ever met, before i heard his name. He came out with a horrible book. I said, who is this guy . That is a lie. Jeff flakes book conscious of a conservative came out seven months into the trump presidency. Came out this summer. 2017. You just heard donald trump say he wrote a book about me before i ever met him. Donald trump met jeff flake a year before jeff flakes book came out. It was in a meeting with Senate Republicans before the Republican Convention last summer in order to try to build party unity. Heres part of the Washington Post the account of this meeting. Trumps most Intense Exchange with senator flake when flake stood up and introduced himself, trump told him, youve been very critical of me. Yes, im the other senator from arizona. The one who didnt get captured. And i want to talk to you about statements like that, flake responded, according to two republican officials. He wrote a book about me before i ever met him, before i ever heard his name. That is what donald trump looks like when hes lying. He knew exactly who senator jeff flake was by the time jeff flakes book came out. Here is the other lie that criticism from other republican senators like bob corker and mccain provoked today. We have a very good relationship. Honestly, when you look at when you take a look at whens happened with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and the hatred and the division and the animosity, ill tell you what, honestly, the republicans are very, very well united. Oh, yeah. It is vicious these days between hillary and bernie. Hillary clinton called bounce lying bernie today and Bernie Sanders called Hillary Clinton little hillary. Only in the fevered madness of the brain of donald trump. Of course, they didnt do that. They never did that. They would never do that. There is only one politician on the National Stage so utterly uncouth as to have launched personal attacked that donald trump has launched at democrats and republicans. In fact, he has personally attacked, ridiculed and given condescending republicans than democrats. No president in history ever behaved this way and no president in history ever failed as completely as donald trump has so far failed in pushing his leg lative agenda through a Congress Whose Republican Leadership he has attacked repeatedly. And he has now been rewarded with an alltime low in a new fox news poll tonight. 38 approve of Donald Trumps job performance. 57 disapprove. Joining us now, Indira Lakshmanan columnist for the boston globe with the Pointer Institute for media studies. Eli stokols for wall street journal and political analyst. This this childestness with which he approaches his self an gran diazment publicly, it is indescribably indecent and foolish. But then to try to use that same boastful stance against Myeshia Johnson and claim a superiority over her with the recollection of this phone call and never, ever once saying, if she misinterpreted my intention, im sorry. Thats the thing he can never bring himself to say. Youre right. Donald trump never apologizes. This is not new. This is just another wednesday in the Trump Administration. The fact is we have seen this over the years. Donald trump obsessed with iq. Hes talked about it repeatedly. Hes obsessed withstanding ovations and with praise for himself. Ultimately, always about him. This is what it comes down to. This fall with Myeshia Johnson, has to reflect back on him. Of course, its incredibly denigrating and insulting not only to her but the people that voted for him so say, i went to an ivy league school. Im so smart and reminds me of the other week telling Rex Tillerson, you know, lets go head to head on an iq contest after hearing that Rex Tillerson privately called him a moron. The problem here is when someone is so self obsessed, when the job he has is to take care of the american nation, the democracy and the american people, its incredibly disturbing that someone would be so focused on himself. You mentioned the fox news poll. So negative for him. But also, the Morning Consult poll in which majorities of the American Public find him reckless, untrustworthy, thin skinned and uncompassionate. These are not good numbers for donald trump and yet we have three quarters of republicans siding with him so that hasnt really moved and these things are not really moving the needle on that either. Eli, theres a lot of ways to handle questions about that phone call including the possibility that two people in a phone call remember it differently. And he could acknowledge that she remembers it differently and say he doesnt want to disagree with her and then offer the apology for any misunderstanding about it. Its an easy thing to do. Its hard to find an adult withhold not know how to do that. But that is who we have as president of the United States. Thats right. Its probably the thing that made jeff flake feel compelled to come forward at this point and deciding to not run again and feeling liberated to speak freely but what he spoke about, what bob corker spoke about yesterday, at the core comments about the president s unfitness for office. As corker said his debasing of our country. Donald trump very nonchalantly shrugged this off as kind of personal feud. He said its obvious that the politics he wasnt going to win and just about politics. Republicans were happy to go along with that narrative because none of them want to confront the fact that this is a president who cannot acknowledge a grieving widows pain who refuses to accept her view of the phone call and to grand her that dignity. And instead of addressing the question of whether or not this president is fit for office and debasing the country, all the senators, republican senators that i saw speak today on this matter, said that, wow, we just got to pass tax reform. We have to keep the feuds private, you know, rand paul said something about, well, i get along with the president because i respect the office as if it matters whether you have a personal relationship with the president. Thats not what were talking about. I think everything has gotten so personality driven that the white house and the republican senators on the hill they dont want to be called out as complicit so its much easier to shield themselves from all of that and from talking about the crux of this matter by just painting it as a personal melodrama of two people that dont like each other and that is not why jeff flake and bob corker said the things that they said yesterday. They didnt say them because they dont get along with the president. They said them because theyre concerned about the country and none of their republican colleagues in the 24 hours since acknowledged that. I just want to come back to the point of the phone call to Myeshia Johnson. If we must choose between the two different accounts of the phone call, to choose Donald Trumps account, indira, to choose a proven liars account. I just showed you a lie he told within minutes of his description of the phone call about jeff flake. Just outright rank lying about when he knew about jeff flake. So hes been caught in more lies than anyone can count. The poll you mentioned, the politico consult poll, not trustworthy, 53 . Not honest, 51 . Reckless, 56 . Not compassionate, 54 . And so, this is someone who the public is studying for a long time. Myeshia johnson is new to all of us and what she doesnt have is a long, multiyear, in fact, in Donald Trumps case, lifetime, Public Record of lying. Heres the problem. Donald trump has been proven to make false and misleading statements every single day, just since his presidency started, the Washington Post has been keeping a running tally. Theyre now up to an average of false and misleading statements he makes every day. You know, whether hes intentionally knowingly lying or just doesnt have the greatest memory of all time, you know, whether he thinks that he actually didnt meet jeff flake at the time that jeff flake wrote the book, i cant speak to that. I can i can i am telling you. The man is lying outright. He knows when he had the first runin with jeff flake because jeff flake stood up to him in the Senate Last Year in the Campaign Face to face like no republican would dare. Absolutely he did but heres the problem. Jeff flake has stood up to him on a moral compass way and still voted with the president almost across the board. So you can say bob corker spoke out. Jeff flake spoke out. They did and supported the president s agenda in congress. And the thing is if we keep wondering whens the next domino going to fall, when are all the republicans who find him offensive and appalling and immoral going to finally step up to the plate, theyre not doing so as you say because they value their agenda over decency and i keep waiting, who stands up and says have you no decency, sir . Going back to the mccarthy era. Jeff flakes the Washington Post oped piece today he cited that exact quote. And these jeff flake,

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