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Today. Last week the president was tweeting about the report saying what is taking so long with the Inspector Generals report, now you would think he would jump at the chance to read all 568 pages about it and tweet about it or at least the 14 page executive summary but because we know the president is not a reader, anything longer than a tweet is too much for this president. But heres the thing. It turns out that these 568 pages can actually be summarized in a tweet. And they have been summarized in a tweet masterfully by veteran washington reporter john harwood of cnbc who delivered the entire report in a digestible morsel perfect for the president of the United States. To sum up Justice Department Inspector General concluded that bias did not affect clinton email investigation. That fbi had proper reasons for declining to prosecute her. And that the only improper actions influencing the 2016 election were actions that damaged clinton, not trump. So if you read one tweet about the Inspector Generals report, let it be john hardwoods tweet. The president wont hear that perspective from his favorite media outlets. Theyll be focussing on the findings that james comey was wrong to publically reveal the findings and that james comey should have defefred to the attorney generals. The only people unhappy about the handling of the investigation during the campaign were republicans. He talked about extremely careless she was extremely careless, thats a tremendous word. Look at what the fbi director said about her, her misconduct is a disgrace and an embarrassment to our country. Trump cheerleaders will, of course, continue to cling to the idea that the fbi is a politically biassed organization of 35,000 people of Hillary Clinton supporters trying to derail the campaign. The Inspector General disagrees. His report recognizes that almost like every work place in america, the fbi is filled with republicans and democrats and independents and nonvoters all of whom are free to have their political opinions and their favorite candidates and all of whom, just like our injury juries and grand juries take an oath to set aside bias they might have to evaluate evidence. The Inspector Generals report highlights a couple texts from two of the 35,000 people working in the fbi, who were clearly hoping, as most of america was at the time, that donald trump would never become president. On august 8, 2016, lisa page texted peter strzok, who she was romantically involved with, trumps not ever going to become president , right . No, no, hes not. Well stop it. Thats the smoking gun as far as the president s cheerleaders are concerned proving how wildly out of control and biassed the fbi is. The fbi was trying to stop the trump election. The president s cheerleaders will never tell you what the Inspector Generals reports says about that on page 404. When asked about this text message, strzok stated that he did not specifically recall sending it, but that he believed that it was intended to reassure page that trump would not be elected, not to suggest that he would do something to impact the investigation. Strzok told the oig that he did not take any steps to try to affect the outcome of the president ial election in either the mid year clinton investigation or the russia investigation. Strzok stated that had he or the fbi, in general, actually wanted to prevent trump from being elected, they would not have maintained the confidently of the investigation into alleged collusion between russia and members of the Trump Campaign in the months before the election. Page similarly stated that although she could not speak to what strzok meant by that text message, the fbi desituation to keep the russia investigation confidential before the election shows they did not take steps to impact the outcome of the election. The Inspector General found that to be true. The Inspector General found those politically biassed texts had absolutely no affect on the professional behavior of lisa page or peter strzok. We further found evidence that in some instance strzok and page advocated for more aggressive investigate measures in the mid year investigation such as the use of grand jury subpoenas and search warrants to obtain evidence. The Inspector General points out a grand jury was not empanelled in the clinton investigation because they feared releasing classified information to grand jurors. That decision was, quote, supported by department and fbi policy and practice. The Inspector General said they asked clinton what appeared to be appropriate questions and made use of documents to challenge clintons testimony and assess her credibility during her interview. The Inspector General found that the decision not to prosecution Hillary Clinton, quote, was consistent with the departments historical approach in prior cases under different leadership, including the 2008 decision not to prosecute former general gonzalez for mishandling documents. The only problem was james comeys decision to discuss the investigation. First when he announced there would be no prosecution and in october when he announced the investigation had been reopened because of discoveries on Anthony Weiners laptop. He was the curse of the Clinton Campaign, Anthony Weiner was caught engaging in communication with a minor, a crime for which he is now in prison. Prior to the day he was caught engaging in electronic sexual communication with a minor, Anthony Weiner was not considered a problem for the campaign, even though five years earlier nancy pelosi forced him to resign because of sending pictures well, we know. Pictures that were a result of a sickness he could not control he said. His scandals over the years after he left the house of representatives, was twice as big of a story because he was married to huma abedin. Hillary clintons staff member. It brings us to the pe cue lar thing that james comey said. This came in the section of the Inspector Generals report where he is trying to and failing to explain why it took the fbi a full month to begin the investigation of Anthony Weiners laptop. The emails were discovered on september 28th and supervisors were alerted, who alerted washington that there was material on the laptop, about 300,000 or more emails that could be related to the Hillary Clinton email investigation, which was an already closed investigation but perhaps needed to be reopened because of the Anthony Weiner laptop, the Inspector General described some confusion between new york and the bureau. It was very, very clear that the one month delay hurt the Clinton Campaign very badly because if the investigation was announced earlier it would have ended a month earlier, october 6th instead of november 6th, two days before the election. And the Clinton Campaign would have had time to recover from what would have been a weeklong set back in early october because of the Anthony Weiner laptop investigation which turned up nothing incriminating in the Hillary Clinton investigation. So that one month could be what turned the election for donald trump. When james comey was questioned by the Inspector General about that delay, it became clear that he was not involved in most of the communication about the Anthony Weiner laptop between washington and new york over those weeks and he explained his detachment from the beginnings of the investigation of Anthony Weiners laptop in this very strange way. He said, i dont know that i knew that weaner was married to huma abedin at the time. Wow then he was the only person involved in this fbi investigation who did not know that. Now the fbi director is an enormous job. And its become much, much more enormous in the 21st century now that it includes worldwide antiterrorism investigations 24 hours a day. Its possible to know what an fbi director is juggling on any given day when he might also have to think about Anthony Weiners lop top and remember who hes married to and who his wife works for. What the Inspector Generals report shows is that the fbi did a job that anyone can be expected to do. In a unique set of circumstances that no other fbi director has ever faced. The Inspector General found that the only serious mistakes in that investigation were made by the fbi director who believed he was fighting a 500year flood and that nothing nothing the fbi did was motivated by political bias. Leading off our discussion now, matt miller, harry litman, and also with us jennifer rubin. Matt miller, you have studied more Inspector General reports in the Justice Department than any of us. Your reaction to the 568 pages. I think you nailed the most important part of it. What i think it shows is that the president has been telling a lie to the American People for months now, for over a year about what happened in this investigation. We found out today to the extent the fbi did anything wrong, it helped donald trump, not hurt him. I think the hardest thing for me to be honest in reading this report, a lot of these people i know, i worked with a number of them, its painful to see what happened at the Justice Department, the fbi director takes a lot of the blame but Loretta Lynch takes a lot of blame from not preventing him from holding that press conference in july or sending that letter in october. Its a painful moment for the fbi. One of the sad things we know, the president has behaved irresponsibly in the attacks hes launched on the Justice Department. Almost all of them undeserved, unjustified, a great in number complete fabrications. But the Justice Department bears some responsibility for the way it handled the clinton investigation and the conduct it raised of the people. Not their motives with, but their conduct. And they created this open the president has exploited. Donald trump has exploited this investigation from the start. He loved it when james comey went public and offered his criticisms of Hillary Clinton even though he was saying there was no case for prosecution there. Donald trump loved every word of the criticism. Of course. Any practical level the criticism doesnt hold because it only served to help trump and hurt clinton. But in a vague bomb throwing, trump jann way, its going to give him ammunition to essentially say as he has in his New York School kid way that hes a sleaze bag and in general to make an overall battle between him and comey. Theres an irony here, however. I mean, supposedly the department of justice, federal Law Enforcement is all this bunch of swamp dwellers and dishonest. Yet today what happened . Both sides are embracing the professional findings of an Inspector General who is part and parcel of the overall culture of impartiality and seriousness for the truth that the Department Works under. No one is going to try to second guess what he says, thats the way it work, the political structure is strong. And to embrace the findings here really is to embrace the professionalism of the department of justice. Harry makes a great point, jennifer. Having studied this report myself. I didnt find a line in it where i was in any sense disagreeing with the Inspector General. It all flows in a perfectly logical and professional way. It does. It is comprehensive, i think. I think its somewhat balanced if we can use that word, balanced is not always appropriate. The one complaint that i had was the issue of the emails between fbi officials, fbi agents. They do have First Amendment rights. They shouldnt have been using the email that belonged to the department but james comey also used email for personal use but they are allowed to have political views, they are allowed to discuss things with their friends. Looking at those emails they could have been send by you, me, or matt or many other people in the United States. I dont see the reason for the fervor behind the Inspector Generals condemnation of those employees. That would be my one caveat. I would like to say with respect to comey, what comey did was not lie, was not an issue of making stuff up. Comey was excessively cancandid. He wanted to tell everyone what he found. If you want to think about this logically, which trump and his minions do not, it doesnt impair his credibility in the russia investigation. As a practical matter it does not. Its not like Robert Mueller is going to rely on james comey only or on one fbi agent. Hes got thousands of documents. Hes got hundreds of witnesses. Hes got probably Michael Cohen, hes got cooperating witnesses. He is putting together a mammoth case and the notion any one person, even james comey, could dislodge or discredit that investigation, i just think is wrong. I dont think thats how bob mueller is making his case. Harry, in my close reading of the report, i found to jennifers point about the fbi agents First Amendment rights. The Inspector General grants them those rights he doesnt grant them using fbi communication equipment and thats what they were using for this. My reading between the lines of this is the Inspector General would be okay with it if they were communicating this way to each other on personal cell phones. Yeah i think thats right. As jennifer says, this was sort of snide, theres that one very troubling email that strzok tries to explain away. But, you know, i think its just not unusual and if there were to be a plumbing of the depths of the different emails that went between fbi agents during an investigation youd find a lot worse. The important thing is theres no allegation that it affected the investigation at all and indeed after mueller quickly moved to fire them, everything was revisited to make sure there was no possible flaw or infirmity. At the end of the day all horowitz says is its an appearance problem. Yes, its an appearance problem, but nothing that could give rise to any valid charge that somehow the probe in its genesis was infected. Matt, youve put some emphasis on an email thats in this report where james comey is telling others involved in the issue that hes against any public reference, any more public reference to a possible investigation of russian interference possibly with the Trump Campaign because its now within the fourweek window of the election and this is being written by someone who is going to crack that window wide open just about a little over a week before the election on the Hillary Clinton matter. It was a remarkable email he sent to James Clapper and john brennan, the director of the cia. Where he said were too close to the election to do this. The thing they wanted to do is not to say that Donald Trumps campaign was being investigated. It was just to say that russians the russian government was trying to interfere with the election. It wasnt comparable to what he later did to Hillary Clinton when he sent that letter up to the hill. Its hard to take that email just on its own face, even forgetting about Hillary Clinton and look at it and go why wouldnt you think this information was relevant to the American Public . It was. Youre not talking about one candidate, youre talking about what a foreign power does. But when you compare it to what he did to Hillary Clinton, sent this letter, you had officials in the Deputy Attorney Generals Office telling him we dont think you should do this, this is a mistake, a violation of doj policy and he did it 11 days from the election when they didnt know if they had anything. They didnt know if the emails were did you pli cats, they were new, if there was anything incriminating. And they took this step to Alert Congress and the American Public so close to an election against doj regs. Thats the sin top to bottom of comey here are arrogance. There are rules and regulations at the department and again and again he took it upon himself to make his judgment about what was best for the bureau, the American People, disregarded what lynch had to say. Thats the real indictment here. On that email from comey it wasnt up to him whether they go public with this. Shouldnt have been. And he kept saying i mean with the russia investigation and the Trump Campaign. He keeps saying in the email hes concerned about what it might mean in terms of revealing sources and what to do in the followup questions. They make sense in that situation. You can see the cross currents that are in every single thing that james comey has to consider throughout this investigation. But the irony is so profound that he is being so ultra careful at that four week point over the russia investigation and not long after that, the letter from james comey enters the campaign. Matt miller, thank you for emphasizing that point. Jennifer rubin thank you for joining us. When we come back, the Trump Family Charity could be shut down for fraud. Nothing less than fraud now that the new York State Attorney general has accused the foundation, Like Trump University before it, of fraud. We will go to brownsville, texas tonight were getting more stories about the children who are in the Trump Administrations now Incarceration Centers there. 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The new York State Attorney general along with two other state attorneys general accused donald trump of fraud in the operation of trump university. Donald trump vowed back then to fight that case to the end but he eventually surrendeed and agreed to pay 25 million in fines for the fraud that was trump university. This new fraud case, the state attorney general of new york says the fraud is the Trump Foundation, which is supposed to be a Charitable Foundation but according to the attorney general has been operated in a, quote, persistently illegal manner. Which included improper and extensive political activity, repeated and willful selfdealing transactions and failure to follow fiduciary obligations. New York State Attorney general Barbara Underwood is asking the court to dissolve the Trump Foundation obtain restitution of 2. 8 million and ban donald trump from serving on any new York Nonprofit boards for ten years and ban his three children from serving on any charitable boards for one year. Attorney general underwood also referred other possible violations of tax law to the Internal Revenue service and possibly violations of the Campaign Finance law to the election commission. The attorney general called the foundation, quote, little more than a checkbook for donald trump and detailed how the president used it to settle personal lawsuits like in 2007 when he was sued for the size of a flagpole at his florida club. Donald trump settled the case by agreeing he would donate 100,000 to a Charitable Foundation. Trump then sent this handwritten note to his accounting staff directing them to take the 100,000 from the Trump Foundation to pay that other Charitable Foundation. It is against the law to use Charitable Foundation money to settle personal lawsuits. Attorney general underwood also said, quote, the foundation ceded control over the Charitable Funds it raised to senior Trump Campaign staff who dictated the manner in which the foundation would disburse those proceeds directing the timing, amounts, and receipts of the grants. It is illegal to use Charitable Funds for political purposes. Very little of the money in the Trump Foundation came from anyone named trump. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in the Trump Foundation came for example from contributions by nbc when donald trump had a Television Show on nbc. David frum, during his reportings, found Donald Trumps contributions to be absolutely zero for eight years before the president ial campaign. Now that donald trump is being charged with fraud once again by the new York State Attorney general donald trump has once again said, i wont settle this claim joining us now david k. Johnston, hes the author of its even worse than you think. David, lets begin with the prediction that donald trump is once again lying when he says, i will not settle this fraud case. Theres nowhere else for him to go eventually than settling this case. Somewhere down the road donald will settle this. I think the filing by the attorney general of new york today makes it very clear that donald trump and his family meet the Justice Department standards for prosecution for tax crimes. These are multiple offenses over a number of years its not an issue of inadvertent. Its flag rant. You prosecute people to detract others. It seems appropriate especially considering donald trump in the past has confessed to being a sales tax cheat, has two income tax trials. And its why we need an audit of the committee and what happened to the money there, and why we need to see Donald Trumps tax returns which im confident will show hes a serial tax cheater. I want to point out one thing that the attorney general of new york state has pointed out. She says among other things, trump repeatedly signed, under penalties of perjury, irs forms 990 in which he attested that the foundation did not engage in transactions with interested parties and that the foundation did not carry out political activity. And david, just technically, the way you commit a tax crime in this country most of the time is by signing your name. And it is usually to a tax return but any tax form that you sign can be a tax crime. Thats right. The signature line, wesley snipe when he filed his fraudulent tax returns inserted under the form under no penalty of perjury. And donald trump has done this repeatedly. It goes to something fundamental about the trump family. The trump family is about winning. And it doesnt matter how you do it, it doesnt matter what rules you break. It doesnt matter what laws you flaunt. If were going to be a country of laws, this case right here, absolutely establishes that donald trump meets the standards. If you want to follow the Justice Department regulation that you cant indict a sitting president. Make hill an unindicted coconspirator or with hold prosecution by getting him to hold the statute until he leaves office. The referral to the irs, is that something that the Internal Revenue service can look at from the new York State Attorney general and throw it away. They can if they want to. But the case is supposed to be seriously reviewed then the irs goes to the Justice Department tax division which has rules in place with what to do with referrals and who to prosecute. I reread those today and they make it clear that donald trump is a prime candidate for criminal prosecution in this matter. I want to point out that we spend almost no effort in this country to prosecute tax crimes. About 1,600 tax felony prosecutions a year, most of which are drug dealers and traffickers or politicians who took bribes. Well see if they have time for donald trump. David k. Johnston, thank you for joining us. Really appreciate it. Coming up, the white house is now trying to use the bible to justify the way they are treating children and babies at the border. This is important for people with asthma. Yes. Its a targeted medicine proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, and lower oral steroid use. About 50 of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. Fasenra™ is designed to work with the body to target and remove eosinophils. Fasenra™ is an addon injection for people 12 and up with severe eosinophilic asthma. Dont use fasenra™ for sudden breathing problems or other problems caused by eosinophils. Fasenra™ may cause headache, sore throat, and allergic reactions. 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The Trump Administration sees only one person in the photograph who is doing the right thing, the morally correct thing. I can say that it is very biblical to enforce the law. That is actually repeated a number of times throughout the bible. The White House Press secretary was challenged on her lie that the law requires the separation of mothers from their children at the border. Reporters pointed out that that was a policy choice made by attorney general Jeff Sessions in april of this year, the White House Press secretary continued to lie about the policy choice made by President Trump and the attorney general and White House Reporter brian care um got mad as hell and just couldnt take it any more . Dont you this ji empathy . Youre a parent, dont you have any empa think for what these people are going through . Settle down. Im not going to have you yell out of turn. These people have nothing i know you want to get more tv time. Its not about that. Its about you answering a question. Answer the question. Its a serious question. These people have nothing, they come to the border with nothing and you throw children in cages. Youre a parent of young children, dont you have any empathy for what they go through . Jill, go ahead. Sometimes the refusal to answer a question is the answer to a question. Do you have any empathy . Father james martin a priest who has been a guest on this program several times was outraged by what he saw in the White House Press Briefing Room today he tweeted it is not biblical to treat migrants and refugees like animals. It is not biblical to take children away from their parents. It is not biblical to ignore the needs of the stranger. Do not use the bible to justify sin. And in another tweet aimed at the attorney general, father martin tweeted, disgraceful, do not use st. Paul to justify unjust laws and acts of cruelty. St. Pall was an apostle not of laws, we are not justified by laws, he says, in romans, but an apostle of a person, jesus christ, the one who said, i was a stranger and you did not welcome me. Father Anthony Oconnor will join us next from brownville, texas. He is at that facility we visited last night and father oconnor has visited with many of the boys in that facility every week. Well be right back with father Anthony Oconnor. [thoughtful sigh] still nervous about buying a house . A little. Thought i could destress with some zen gardening. At least we dont have to worry about Homeowners Insurance. Just call geico. Geico helps with Homeowners Insurance . Good to know. Been doing it for years. Thats really good to know. I should clean this up. Ill get the dustpan. Behind the golf clubs. Get to know geico. And see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be. And we got to know the friends of our friends. R the friends. And we found others just like us. 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And its its essentially a prison or a jail without cages or cells for these young boys. Joining our discussion now from that same facility that Jacob Soboroff showed us last night on this program, father Anthony Oconnor who is the pastor of a nearby Catholic Church in brownsville, texas. Thank you for joining us tonight. I understand that youve been visiting with the boys in that facility on a regular basis. What can you tell us about their experience there . Well, they also come good evening, lawrence, they also come to our parish, monday, wednesday and friday, groups of 30s. And sundays they come as well as well as girls from another Refuge Center. So we see a lot of them in our parish. What are they telling you about their experience both at the border and how they got to that facility and what its like in that facility . We dont really talk much about that. When they talk, theyre more concerned about talking from where theyve come from because when they come when they come here to brownsville they have come a long way and been through a lot and theyre in the Refuge Center waiting for their process, which can take about six weeks or seven weeks. And so theyve got a lot of time to think, even though they are well looked after, local people who look after them, and theyre able to reflect. And so, theyre more concerned about talking about where theyve come from and how they want to theyre sorry for the things that maybe theyve done, and that they want to make a new start. Thats what they talk about. As jacob told us last night these are generally boys about 10 to 17. What do we know about any other facilities that might be housing girls or younger children, the 2yearolds, for example . The younger girls were in a Refuge Center just down the road from where i am now, but they were shifted out to another Refuge Center over on the southern part of the city. And they also come on sunday. Theyre really lovely girls. And they enjoy coming. And so, i think from what we understand from the ceo, that this place just up the road is being remodelled and extended to be able to have these toddlers, as they say. Father oconnor i have. Go ahead. I have not been there recently. I used to go when the teenage girls were there. But a lady from my parish is a volunteer there and she says she goes for the religious ceremonies. At the beginning, we dont know how much at this stage, but at the beginning the boys and girls would come to the religious ceremony, now only the boys come. She doesnt know exactly where the girls have gone to or why they dont. And she said that they that the boys are a bit sad, although they keep it inside. And when they pray, they pray that they will be reunited with their parents, and they pray thanking god for the roof they have over their heads and the food they have every day. Thats really nice. Do you have any reaction to the white house justification of their policy using the bible today . No. No. I understand that, father. I know that not all priests want to venture into political comments. So i understand that. What i would say is what our Bishop Daniel flores said in a Statement Last week, that America Needs to look at its soul and that whats happening is cruel. Even though he respects the sovereignty of a country that we can go about things better. Father Anthony Oconnor. Thats what he said. Father oconnor, thank you for joining us tonight. Appreciate it. Thank you. Every once in a while we have to stop and stair at just how deeply preverse a liar the president of the United States is and this is the week on his way back from the meeting with the north korean dictator the president lied about american soldiers killed in the korean war. When i first came to ocean bay, what i saw was despair. I knew something had to be done. Hurricane sandy really woke people up, to showing that we need to invest in this community. I knew having the right partner we could turn this place around. It was only one bank that could finance a project this difficult and this large, and that was citi. Preserving Affordable Housing preserves communities. So we are doing their kitchens and their flooring and their lobbies and the grounds. And the beautification of their homes, giving them pride in where they live, will make this a Thriving Community once again. You shouldnt be rushed into booking a hotel. 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One of the things that really im happy is that the soldiers that died in korea, their remains are going to be coming back home. And we have thousands of people that have asked for that. Thousands and thousands of people. So many people asked when i was on the campaign. Id say, wait a minute. I dont have any relationship. But they said when you can, president , wed love our son to be brought back home. You know, the remains. So thousands and thousands of parents of american soldiers killed in the korean war asked candidate donald trump to have their remains brought home. So wheres the lie in that . It is in the number. It wasnt thousands and thousands of parents. It was zero. That never happened. Donald trump never met a single parent of an american soldier killed in the korean war during the president ial campaign. The Washington Post estimates that most parents of a soldier killed in the korean war would have been between 102 and 111 years old during the trump president ial campaign. In other words, most of them were not alive during the president ial campaign. And the ones who might be alive were not fighting their way to the front of a rope line to talk to donald trump. He will lie about anything and everything. Nothing is sacred to him. And every once in a while, we just have to stop. We have to pause over that because it is a national emergency. It is something we have never seen before, and it is something we must never get used to. Imagine what would happen if any democrat, even any other republican lied about the parents of americas military who were killed in action sharing their grief with them. Donald trump is trying to steal the grief of the now dead parents of soldiers killed in the korean war and pretend that he shared their grief with them and that he accomplished something for them when talking to the north korean dictator, who has reportedly charged the United States 1 million every time he has allowed the returns of the remains of a single american soldier. Stealing grief is a donald trump specialty. Here he is lying about losing friends of his on 9 11 during the president ial campaign. Excuse me. I lost hundreds of friends. The World Trade Center came down during the he kept us safe . Thats not safe. Hundreds of friends. When i saw that, i immediately tweeted that donald trump was lying when he said during the South Carolina debate that he lost hundreds of friends. And so the next day on meet the press, donald trump reduced his claim from hundreds of friends to many, many friends. I was there. I lost many, many friends in that tragedy. That was the worst tragedy in the history of this country, worse than pearl harbor. And when i saw that, i immediately tweeted that that was a lie too. Donald trump did not lose many, many friends. But donald trump was telling so many lies then, as he is now, that no one caught up with that one. A few days later, michael daly of the daily beast was the only reporter to report about the lie about losing hundreds of friends on 9 11. Again, the lie is in the number. And the real number, again, is zero. Donald trump lost zero friends on 9 11. Donald trump attended zero 9 11 funerals. Donald trump stole the grief of hundreds of families who lost a loved one on 9 11 and tried to make it his own for political reasons. That is how deep and perverse Donald Trumps lying is. Donald trumps lying is worse. It is uglier than any other public liar in american history, and this week he lied for political advantage about the families of the korean war dead in the same breath that he praised the north korean dictator who holds on to power in north korea through murder and torture and terrorizing the entire population of north korea. You are never going to see a satisfying interview of donald trump, an interview where he is successfully challenged on every lie, because donald trump will never submit to an interview where that could possibly happen. And the news media is never going to be able to keep up with all of Donald Trumps lies after he tells them. So you as a citizen have a new job. You must protect yourselves from the lies of donald trump. You must do your own homework to expose Donald Trumps lies to yourself and your family and your friends and your fellow citizens. 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