I was going to say, you should market it but it does kind of sound like a weird pregnancy line. The last word bump coffee cup. She did a solid eight minutes and that might be it. You discussed with Amy Klobuchar this issue that we, ive heard about on a lot of Television Talk about politics. The electability of a woman. Does a woman have a particular challenge . And i thought you dealt with that pretty wisely, obviously. That discussion is during repeatedly. Yeah. And i for one, and i dont watch every minute of cable news, but ive not heard one discussion of the electability of a gay man. I have not heard one discussion of the electability of a jewish man. Why is it that women, and apparently at this time, women alone are left to have to fight for the notion that they can actually win . Yeah. I mean, i think whats going on, you do hear some discussion about age, for example. And whether or not age is a limiting factor for some of the older candidates in the field. You heard that particularly when there are questions about whether or not Vice President biden would get in. And whether or not his age might be a limiting factor and the rebuttal to that is that there were already candidates discuio voters is inescapebly about who can beat trump. So every little worry that everybody has about what might be something that might interrupt a persons otherwise promising trajectory to beat trump ends up open for discussion. I think if Pete Buttigieg continues to overporp to expectations, having done so well in iowa and New Hampshire, some of those discussions about him being the first openly gay president ial candidate will surface. Every electability issue will be discuss ad thousand times. I hope the other things i mentioned, i hope the good news is that we are as a country past the point where people will even care about whether a candidate is jewish and were past the point where a majority of people care whether a candidate is gay. I hope thats the case. I find this discussion about the womens electability to just be maddening. And the maddening thing is for all these factors, you never talk to anybody who says, yeah. My issue is that shes a woman. My issue is that hes old. Or my issue is that hes its always worry by proxy. Asking for a friend. Thats right. Theyre concerned but im not. Thats how you know how disingenuous some of these discussions are. I think some of these discussions are inescapable. Weve never seen anything like it. And for once, im not saying that about the trump administration. We have never seen anything like this. Democratic president ial primary campaign. Iowa and New Hampshire have now created more confusion about the state of race with the frontrunner before iowa, joe biden, now running at the back of the pack and Amy Klobuchar coming from out of nowhere to overtake Elizabeth Warren in New Hampshire. But Elizabeth Warren is still third in total delegates. And no one can tell what you will happen next. But there has been some important stability in all of this. Some Important Campaign factors that have remained stable throughout all of the shifting standings of the Democratic Candidates. And what has remained stable in this campaign is very, very good news for the democrats. And it is very bad news, terrible news for donald trump. Ill discuss all of that in tonights last word at the end of this hour. We must begin twonlt the crisis in washington this week that has been overshadowed by Campaign Reporting yesterday. We will be joined by senator Richard Blumenthal who is now calling for the resignation of the attorney general of the United States in the midst of this crisis. And an Inspector Generals investigation of president ial interference at the Justice Department. The Trump Barr Justice Department now has its first principled resignation. Jonathan in had is no longer a federal prosecutor. He quit yesterday after serving under three president s. Bush, obama and trump. Donald trump made working in the Justice Department unbearable because they have allowed it to be unbearable. Donald trump didnt knock down the wall of ethics that is supposed to exist between the white house and the Justice Department. William barr did that. Donald trump obviously wanted to knock down that wall from day one. He needed an attorney general who was as eager to knock down the wall as donald trump was. Donald trump said early in his presidency that he needed his roy cohen. Roy cohen was the disgraced criminal lawyer who ended up disbarred and convicted of crimes himself. He was Donald Trumps lawyer early in Donald Trumps career and donald trump wanted that kind of lawyer at the Justice Department. He wanted the kind of attorney general who would do anything for donald trump. Anything. And that apparently is what donald trump seeps to have now. After tweeting his objections to federal prosecutors, just the recommendation in the roger stone case, William BarrsJustice Department then changed the recommendation and lowered the sentencing for Donald Trumps friend, roger stone. That was enough for Jonathan Kravis who was one of the prosecutors. He notified the court that he would no longer be involved in the case and he then quit his job. At the Justice Department. Three other prosecutors working on the roger stone case. Aaron zelinsky, adam jed and mike marando notified that they would no longer be working on the case and in effected following Donald Trumps orders. So william barr signs new prosecutors for the sentencing phase. A phase that is now clearly meaningless, isnt it . Because donald trump in his way today let us know, let roger stone know, that roger stone has nothing to worry about. I dont want to say that yet. But people were hurt viciously and badly by these corrupt people. Are you considering a pardon . I dont want to say that yet. That means that hes considering a pardon for roger stone. That means hes saying that corrupt people prosecuted roger stone. So the president is already saying that a pardon for roger stone is completely justifiable. Roger stone will be sentenced next week. On thursday by a federal judge, Amy Berman Jackson who was appointed by barack obama. Judge jackson can completely ignore the Justice Departments lowered recommendation of a sentence. But what we will be surely reporting next thursday night is that donald trump thinks the sentence judge jackson has given roger stone is vicious and unfair, and that she did it because she was appointed by a president not named donald trump. If donald trump does that, what you can be sure of is that the attorney general of the United States will not say one word of it as donald trump has done before. Attorney general william barr is now scheduled to testify to the house judiciary xhoe on march 31st. By that time, the attorney general might be answering questions about the trump pardon of roger stone. Leading off our discussion. Democratic congressman sean patrick maloney. Sherylin is with us, the director counsel of the naacp Legal Defense and education fund, and glen kishner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. I want to get your reaction. What do you see happening next . Two things. Weve seen ordinary people step forward and sacrifice for the greater good. These four Prosecutors Join the ranks of ambassador yovanovitch and he alexander vindman. The second point is were corrr institutions because mike pompeo will do whatever he wants and wont defend his ambassadors. If weve lost main justice and bill barr will do whatever the president wants him to do for a friend. Throw a prosecution for a political favor. Then im very worried about what any more time of donald trump will mean for institutions like the pentagon. If you start corrupting these agencies with people who will bend to the president s whim, then there is no defense against the president wanting a third term. Or claiming a second one when he didnt win it. This is a crisis and it is up to the rest of to us make sure they dont get away with it. Donald trump then tweeted his congratulations to william barr for taking over the sentencing phase of the roger stone case, as donald trump basically begged him to do publicly by tweet. Today President Trump said i never called the Justice Department and asked for it. It seems to be that donald trump believes when he crosses these lines, he should do it in public. In that same way that he walked out in the driveway and asked china to also investigate the bidens and he did it on television. You didnt impeach him for what he did in the driveway for what did he on television. You impeached him for what he did, what he thought he was doing on private in the phone with president zelensky. It seems in this behavior, donald trump thinks, if i make it all public, they cannot come after me. I think it is worse. They want to look you in the eye and say theyre flouting the law. They want to tell you a lie and have you stay silent and make you pretend that it is the truthful thats real power. When Everybody Knows youre breaking the law, Everybody Knows youre telling a lie and everybody stays quiet. Thats terrifying to me. Do you know who is responsible for this . Susan collins and tom tillis and he have one of those republican senators who took a dive. When they come out and say share the concerned, i hope people understand, they are covering their butts. When they gave up the chance, when they had it to hold him accountable. It will be up to the rest of us. Good Public Servants are paying the price with their careers for the misconduct of those senators who failed to act. You were in the courtroom for the roger stone trial. You watched the prosecutors at work. You know Jonathan Kravis. You worked with him when you were a federal prosecutor. Tell us about Jonathan Kravis about, this decision to not do the pressess bidding in a sentencing hearing. To say, thats it. I am gun the william barr, donald trump Justice Department. Knowing john kravis, it doesnt surprise me one bit that he made the difficult decision and it seems like he made it immediately. When he saw an injustice going on in a case that he worked, that he tried, that he brought home. When he saw the outrageous violation, violence to the rule of law and to equal justice perpetrated by bill barr, he took a stand. And that stand was, i remove myself from this case that has consumed the last year of my life. And i resign from the department of justice. That is a difficult thing for a family man to do. John is the kind of guy when i worked with him in the homicide section, aef strong but silent, circumstan circumspect, he came in and did his work, presenting the people of the district of columbia every day. He then left the office to go to the Public Integrity section of the department of justice. Main justice, as we called it. He distinguished himself over there. Then he returned and brought the skill set back to the u. S. Attorneys office. Back to the people of the district of columbia. And for him to have his legs cut out from under him, together with his three fellow prosecutors by bill barr who really doesnt give a wit about equal justice under the law is about as upsetting as gets for former prosecutors. Are there any limitations on Jonathan Kravis speaking publicly now about this . Is there anything that follows him out of Justice Department that can control what hes allowed to say . No. We dont really work in the National Security arena typically as fert prosecutors. So the only constraints he might have is he cant share information about grand jury protected material. So i think well leave it up to him to say if he wants to now go public with what he has just experienced, of course, what will the president do . Perhaps label him a traitor and say you know what we used to do with traitors. I think john will have to take some time to work through with his family whether he now wants to come out and talk publicly about what he has just experienced. So this is just a sentencing recommendation by federal prosecutors. It is something the judges weigh to whatever degree they want to. Ive seen judges read them and you can tell theyre justm of s donald trump have risked all of this over just a sentencing recommendation which now fuse judge jackson to decide what to do. You mentioned the president s comment about, i havent decided yet whether i will pardon him. If you put all these pieces together, youre on the money about President Trump saying these publicly. We skipped over one thing. Last week the president said, when that he had big room full of people applauding him and he did his bit for an hour. He kept saying with attorney general barr in front, were going to fix this. Well make sure this never happened again. What did attorney general barr do . He issued a letter and he said that only he could sign off personally on investigations into the president , into the Vice President , into senators, into house members, in the election, and into any foreign donation to elections. And heish pud to the department of justice. If you or i thought something improper happened, the letter says they couldnt even do a preliminary investigation without him personally signing off on it. So he closed off that door. Then we come to this week. And Mitch Mcconnell will not allow the Election Protection bills to a vote. We put this all together. We have a process in which the president is impeached, he is acquitted. We know his intention to continue to engage in that behavior. He came right out and. China, why dont you have at it. And then you have the attorney general saying, if anyone wants to report misconduct and start an investigation, i have to personally sign off on it. He basically takes full control of the fbi. And then you have the senators who will notss these election s bills that have been sitting on Mitch Mcconnells desk since last fall. From my perspective, what im most worried about is the protection of our election in 2020 which i think is in serious peril. Every United States senator who voted against conviction of the president. They said we think what did he was inappropriate. These should be the people who are protecting us from foreign interference but they wont do it. Think about marco rubio. He said this last year in a bill that he cosponsored. He said it is a common sense measure that seeks to protect our elections from foreign interference. Hostile foreign act attempted to disrupt our election and attack our democracy and our Intelligence Community continues to warn of this threat. This bipartisan bill would make an important step in ensuring hostile foreign entities are not able to take ownership and stake in copies crucial to our election process. Thats marco rubio march 14, 2019. He has not said a word since the impeachment. You have to put the pressure on. You have to pressure Mitch Mcconnell. We need to protect these 2020 elections and bill barr wont do it and President Trump wont do it. Carson maloney, what do you expect is possible within the Justice Department . Can congress get an inspector gentles investigation of this . We can certainly demand it. Im hopeful there is an Inspector General. Were seeing these cronies. There is still a beating heart of professional people at the Justice Department. The Southern District of new york continues to do great work. And there are people like Michael Atkinson who brought the whole ukraine scandal to life when they tried to deep six it. Again, bill barrs handy work. So i think there are people in there fighting and it is our job on the hill to back them up. The fact is that this president has not learned his lesson. So it is going to be the voters, ultimately, that remind Susan Collins and those senators, that reminds these house members who are had in the tank for the president , who the boss is and what we really care about. Man, this is a bull horn warning all of us, if we thought we had to get involved, we need double whatever were going to do. Get up and fight this year because it is all on the line. At the sentencing, is it likely that the judge would actually send roger stone directly to prison or would there be a 30day stay . A scheduled delivery to prison . He ought to go right to prison. I suspect judge amy jackson will do just that. I was a little surprised after the prosecutors asked that he be confined, she gave him a break and let him stay out pending