Trump read scripted condolences and on twitter he praised a bank that decided to force employees back to work despite the ongoing covid threat. Joe biden took a different approach. Here he is in new york city with 90yearold maria fisher who lost her son, andrew, on 9 11. Never goes away. Never goes away. It never goes away, does it . That is what Vice President biden said to maria fisher. 9 11 will always be seered into our memories, as it should be. Hard to separate the tragic loss from the tragedy we are experiencing now. The collective response this time has been markedly different. About 1,000 americans continue to die every day from the coronavirus. Every three or four days the number of americans who die from covid19 equal the numbers who died on 9 11. That is an astonishing number. That many of us have somehow become enured to. How is it possible not to be in a constant state of National Mourning when nearly 200,000 americans have died and when many of the deaths as we heard for months could have been prevented under the right leadership. I might have answered my own question. The right leadership. This time we have a leader who ignored the threat. The president still has no National Testing plan or national tracing plan. He praises businesses for reopening too soon. He is on the campaign trail breaking social distancing norms, mask mandates and forcing supporters to sign waivers releasing the president and his campaign from liability if the supporters get sick or die from the virus. He is not trying to solve the problem. Turns out he never was trying to solve the problem. Thanks to bob woodward we know President Trump deliberately misled the American People from the beginning and lied about what he knew about the coronavirus threat. I think, bob, to be honest with you. I want you to be. I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down. Yes. Because i dont want to create a panic. He didnt want to create a panic. The president who thrives on fear and panic. Right now he is stoking fears and lying that low Income Housing is go to destroy the suburbs if joe biden wins the election. That is racist. That is classist. That is panic that the president wants to create amongst suburban voters. Isnt the job of a leader to lead . Look at roosevelt and churchill. Times of crisis real leaders level with their people and through leadership and words and actions those leaders keep people calm. Look at leaders through this crisis. New zealands prime minister, germany, canada, there were ways to get through this. Real leaders did what needed to be done, told the truth and guided their people through difficult times. Real leaders didnt lie. What does it say about the president he thought so poorly of his own leadership abilities that he couldnt tell the truth to the American People or he couldnt handle the truth. This president lies. We have to hope other leaders will push back on the lies. Leaders like dr. Anthony fauci. You said it was time to hunker down because the fall and the winters not going to be easy. The president says that we rounded the final turn. How do you square the two messages . I am sorry but i have to disagree with that. Because if you look at the thing that you mentioned, the statistic, andrea, they are disturbing. We are plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000. Evidence is everywhere thaw look. The president couldnt rise to the moment. He couldnt do the right thing. He couldnt say the right thing. He lied. He downplayed the threat. People died because of that. Multiple 9 11s, a week. The president is still doing nothing but holding rallies in violation of state covid regulations. This is no longer a time for americans to defend their support for the president by arguing that trump will be better for the stock market or trump wont raise taxes. Nearly 200,000 americans are dead. Close to a quarter Million People could be dead by election day. Maybe 400,000 according to some projections by the end of the year. This is beyond the time for a yes but defense of donald trump. The president s downplaying of the covid threat is one of the many disturbing revelations we learned. A report that the president called americans who died fighting for this country losers and suckers and the whistleblower saying the Trump Administration manipulated intelligence reports. The bob woodward reporting about trump bragging about saving the ass of the crown prince of brandon saad ovsaaudi arabia. Norms have been broken by the president in ways they never have been broken before, and it is unbelievable there are so many people that are not phased by the neglect, lies, corruption, covering up of the targeting killing of a journalist. Who shrug or ignore their support because of the stock market or taxes. Almost 200,000 americans have died and quarter million could be dead and possibly 400,000. It is what it is as the president himself said. We might have become desensitized in this moment but some day i hope we appreciate and come to terms with the enormity of the loss the country has suffered because of the president. A loss we didnt needed to suffer. When we do, i hope we never forget. Leading us off are dr. Gupta, msnbc medical contributor and maria kumar. Thank to you both of you for being here. Maria, i will start with you. It is hard for my little brain to process all we have learned this week about the irregularities, the abnormalities, the illegality that has come from this administration. We are at 50 some odd days from the election, and the evidence continues to grow about the fact that donald trump is not the man for the job. When donald trump talked about how he could go into fifth avenue and shoot someone and not suffer consequences he has driven a mack truck through america and the responsibility for the deaths of 200,000 individuals. It will be on the conscious of the American People whether or not they will reelect him. We talk about the faces of 200,000 people. My grandmother lost her partner of 38 years. She wasnt able to hold his hand or hold a memorial service. She was only given his ashes in the middle of a closet in sonoma and they were taken back to her home. These are real american stories with every person we talk about sadly as essential workers who are getting beat up. We talk about the latino community, multigenerational families, families losing their mothers and leaving orphans in the wake. The fact that the president in february whether he knew we could protect ourselves through masks, the only protection we knew was reliable. He stigmatized it. He was directly responsible for the cause of deaths instead of providing solutions and rolling up his sleeves and trying to provide us with the roadmaps, he created nonsense, confusion and in doing so many needless lives were affected. Not just the loss of life, the loss of income and ability. I had a friend of mine today sending me a picture of two daughters going to spain to school for the first day. We are zooming indefinitely because we dont know when we can send our child back safely to expose them to covid and other things. It is not that he is incompetent. It is not practiced. We have to be clear that it is malpractice he has put us in, not just massive destruction of lives but a possible Great Depression and feeding into the largest civil unrest in close to 50 years and he adds fuel to the fire. The last week i had a woman on and she is an expert on putin. She said one of the things putin does quite well to ensure his reelection is anxiety and that is what the president knows how to perpetuate quite well. Vin gupta, we have been talking about this for months. I dont buy the argument. Donald trump, he hasnt invented later and imposed about something he did earlier. You are a doctor. Doctors have to deal with this all of the time. You cant be dishonest with your patients about their condition in the hopes that it could be upsetting to them . First i would say the moving story that maria mentioned about losing a Family Member and what that is like. That is the story of 200,000 families right now who lost their loved ones. To your point, much of those lives were preventible. The loss of life was preventible. 60 to 70 based on models. When i hear and when the president hears that the virus from china is potentially airborne. Even if he wants to not speak in dramatic terms, fine. But readiness is key. Making sure all of your Health Systems are doing table to be exercises and that the pentagon and cdc are looking to the National Stockpile to make sure that n95 masks are there. You hear airborne and if you have experts around you, you think papers, a fancy ppe and n95 mask. If you dont have either one you invoke the defense production act, contingency planning. Here is the problem. We are not talking about things that matter now to, for example, the entire west coast of the United States. Here in the west coast we are suffocating in smog, up and down the west coast. We know that smog exposure is increasing the risk of successful infection if you are exposed to covid19 across demographics, not just a problem if you are over 65. It matters to all of us. Those of us whose parents are going to day care or school and those children are getting exposed during recess potentially. This matters to all of us. We are not talking about the issues. We are talking about distractions. That is what the president traffics in. That is the big problem here. Yeah. The fires are remarkable problem. We have more than 500,000 people tonight under evacuation orders in covid, in an environment where they can get sick and are more likely to get sick because of this. You talked about anxiety. The anxiety or the sense of uselessness is a trick that can be used to keep people away from voting. What do you hear from people that sort of have given up on the political system . Is there a sense that people are energized about the election and they are energized not to have more of this . People are rightfully angry, ali. They are seeing themselves surrounded in areas where they cant make wise, simple decisions on whether or not to send their child to school and whether or not to wear a mask or whether or not to go into a store. We are seeing a huge surge in Voter Registration in numbers we have never seen before. 80 of the people we are registering right now are under the age of 33 and people are connecting and are fed up and they are starting to prepare themselves so they can participate. Our biggest problem is that states without a uniform plan. Every state is playing by their own rules. We are trying to push that Mitch Mcconnell passed the h. E. R. O. S. Act so they can get the 3 billion back to states so they can get all of the other safeguards they need in order to conduct a safe and a fair election. I am go to grow an afro before the Senate Passes that bill. Dont say that. You and i knew when the president said 15 cases, go to go to zero. We are in september and still averaging around 1,000 people a day. This is remarkable. What needs to happen to stop this . Well, ali, that is a loaded question. But we need the American People to recognize one thing. They are not getting it or clear messaging from the president. Flu and covid. Respiratory viral pathogens. Lack of testing. Insufficient ppe for teachers and staff. You should be concerned. We know flu and covid. Especially in dry or cold climates. This is going to get worse before it gets better. Things are not going to be good and we need to be prepared for that. Thanks to both of you. Thank you for joining us tonight. Coming up, a top prosecutor tasked with investigating the russia investigation resigned reportedly because of pressure from bill barr to produce something before election day. 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If the mail is too slow so it does not get there by election day, too bad. A top deputy to the u. S. Attorney john durham leading the socalled investigation into the russia investigation has resigned. Norah dannehys resignation was partly out of concern that the Investigative Team is being pressed for political reasons to produce a report before their work is done colleagues said and also said that dannehy believed the pressure was coming from the attorney general, william barr. Not just another example of the department of justice acting as Donald Trumps lawyers and protectors but the work they have done on russias attack on our election in 2016. I think that it is fair and create to say he is engaged in a series of a former federal judge advising on the case and criticized the drop of the charges something unworthy of our Justice System in the United States. Twice before two different judges. We know russia is interfering in the election. A whistleblower analyst said he was told to stop providing evidence because it made the president look back. A ukrainian who the Treasure Department confirmed is an active russian agent, the guy with the mustache. It appears the Barr Justice Department is doings it part to aid Donald Trumps claim that it was all a hoax. Joyce vance welcome to both of you. The nies is reporting that barr is expected to release his report before the election. It is under the circumstances that there is something rotten going on at the heart of the investigation. I always thought it was an investigation in search of an outcome and wasnt about factfinding. It was about reaching a goal the ag had in the mind to discredit the original Mueller Report and findings and all of the related prosecution. Even if you were a supporter of the investigation and think it is on the level and think that it is a mn investigation, theres no not to take any steps before the election that might impact the election. And i think that it is telling the attorney general never has offered a public reason for why he might do so. When you compare it to the departments normal rules and practice. He said there is a Public Interest. There is no Public Interest that could be served by releasing something in the next 55 days that would not be done by releasing on november 15th. Another sign that there is something troubling about the investigation and i think it is clear the attorney general is pushing for a result that is completely inappropriate. To be fair because not everybody is following this on a daily basis, this is an investigation in search of a predetermined result . I think that is right. This is not a criminal case based on reports there was a crime committed. It was on the president s insistence there be an additional look. Doj Inspector General concluded nothing criminal occurred but the Investigation Continues to plow the same ground. That entire context when you combine that with the notion that longstanding d. O. J. Policy would be broken if a report was issued within days or weeks before the election, it takes on a real political flavor. There is no such thing as interim or temporary reports in prosecution. You indict the case or you dont. I expect Norah Dannehy, a prosecutor with a sterling reputation resigned because she couldnt stomach what she was asked to do and hopefully we will hear from her at some point. Until we do, this is a brandnew name to most americans. What do you know about Norah Dannehy . This is not norahs first time being involved in a highlevel prosecution. She was asked to look into the political firings of attorneys in that administration and continued the work moving forward because it wasnt completed until the next administration. She has a reputation for being someone to keep her head down. She is an investigative wiz. That is where she is at her best. Matt, at this point we know barr was involved in the russia investigation before he was involved. Now talking about the interim report before the election. At what point is barr held to account for the things he is doing and acting as Donald Trumps personal lawyer and running interference. He is really moving towards the president s fixer. Yeah. He is the president s fixer. He is out campaigning for the presi