Will take Bernie Sanders over donald trump or ted cruz anytime. We will have much more of those interviews that certainly have made headlines throughout the day. Plus, on the republican side, donald trump and ted cruz bracing for a big battle. Cruzs campaign is a record 32 million First Quarter fund raising haul. While the Trump Campaign is shaking things up at the top. Who does what on the frontrunners campaign now . Which right now is certainly an interesting situation, with the frontrunner being off the campaign trail and not set to be back before a potential voter until this weekend. Are you the boss boss now . I work directly for the boss. One guy . I have one man whose voice is louder than everybody elses. The one guy you have to listen to is trump. Correct. Why that man there is so important but let me bring in someone else important to our coverage, nbcs jacob rascon covering Trump Campaign in new york. We heard from Paul Manifort the individual sending to consolidate power but while this is happening with trumps team, trump yet again is not on the campaign trail. He took a break during wisconsin and right now, hes tweeting out that he has a business to run and hes focused on that as well as the campaign. Reporter often the case, you have two sides or more to the country. Paul manifort, the Convention Manager takes on new responsibilities in charge of everything with the delegate process, Cleveland Convention and overseeing the washington, dc Office Outreach to congressional folks and elsewhere and you have him saying he reports only to the boss, only to trump. Then you have Senior Campaign officials telling nbc news as well, look, this is just a natural outgrowth of the campaign. What you have is now were entering a new phase where were going to have to do arm twisting with the delegates. We needed somebody with experience in that and the campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski is in charge of the overall look and the general election outlook. Mr. Trump said that specifically in the release yesterday. So you have these two sides and its clear that the incredibly Small Campaign run by trump is expanding and looking more conventional. Some would argue its too late and some say its going to work and still on the path to 1237 delegates. Tamron . They say that but Katrina Pierson said theyre confident theyll reach the delegates by june. Going to go to colorado in a few this hour and trump has cancelled appearances out west and Great Questions about the ground game in colorado and seem to all but given up and get a delegate out of whats playing out there. Reporter right, and you heard Paul Manafort saying he was asked about cruzs Sophisticated Campaign on the ground and said, look, cruz is running a very Clever Campaign and were going to do our own delegate stealing in the weeks ahead. And sign seasoned operatives and say theyre on the game and getting on it now. Thank you very much, jacob rascon and more on the republicans later in the hour but now back to the democratic race. It was once cordial and now its taken a different tone. The question is how long will it last . This tone that weve heard the past few days. Hillary clinton sat down for an exclusive interview with today shows matt lauer. The state of the primary race and the email investigation that continues to hang over her president ial bid. Here now is that interview. When you look at the calendar eight months ago and say, april 19th, could you have imagined back then that this would be anything but a finish line and its kind of turned into a firewall . I said from the beginning, matt, this is going to be a tough contest all the way through. And i did it because i remember 08. I went the distance with then senator obama. And thats the way primaries develop. Whoever it is that is going to make it through the preliminaries of debates and early contests, youre going to keep moving and i said to everyone, new york is going to be a place where im going to fight hard because i feel so strongly about it. I never expected anything else. It means so much more right now because you have lost seven of the last eight contests. And you can tell how much is at stake because the exchanges and you talked about him. Things he really hadnt understood. Do you think in some ways senator sanders proposed some things early in this campaign he didnt think he would stick around long enough to actually have to defend . Youll have to ask him, but what i was referring to there was the very long interview that he did with the New York Daily News and i think a lot of people were quite taken aback that on key issues, that he has been promoting during the entire campaign. Breaking up banks. Breaking up banks. Foreign policy issues. That he did have some questionable answers. And look, thats fair game. Ive been in the bright hot spotlight for a long time. I understand how that works. But i feel good about where the campaign is. We have a big popular vote lead about 2. 5 million over senator sanners a sanders. Heard what you said. Whether you intended it to be cutting or biting or not, he said this about you in terms of whether youre qualified to be president. Weve heard this. I dont think youre qualified if you get 15 million from wall street sent through your super pac and now im paraphrasing. If you voted for the disastrous war in iraq and if you support trade agreements that cost millions of jobs to americans. You dont have to read between the lines there. He said he doesnt think youre qualified to be president. Well, that will be up to the voters of new york and the other states that be be passing judgment in the weeks ahead. I think its kind of a silly statement, but hes free to say whatever he chooses. Heres what i believe. I believe that voters will be looking at both of us, but i will take Bernie Sanders over donald trump or ted cruz anytime. They pose real threats to our values. To groups of americans, some very large groups like women, but so many people are hearing whats going on on the republican side and wondering, what is this about . How can we tolerate it . I want to get to that, but senator sanders in your opinion said or done anything in the course of this campaign or during the course of his career in the senate that disqualifies him from being president of the United States . I never said that about him. I know, im asking. I never said that about him. His response to me was misrepresentation of what ive said but also kind of a historic amnesia because on all of those issues, he supported president obama. He supported joe biden, as our Vice President ial candidate and john kerry, according to to him, not qualified but i think in the heat of the campaign, people say a lot of things. I want to stay focused on the issues. There are contrasts between us and i think thats fair game. Wisconsin was earlier in the week. I want to talk to you about the exit polling and i think some of the things repeat after certain contests. Bernie sanders got 82 of the votes from people under the age of 30. 89 of people said they thought Bernie Sanders was basically honest. 58 said that about you. And this struck me. You are running to become perhaps an historic candidate. Perhaps the first woman to be elected president. Right. If you look at wisconsin, youve basically split the womens vote with senator sanders. When you lay in bed at night, how do you get your arms around nah . I just think about it from a much broader perspective. I lost wisconsin to senator obama and knew i would have a tough fight going in and i came out pleased with the number of delegates. Im confident that if im so fortunate to secure the democratic nomination, we will unify the Democratic Party, all parts of it. And i know that young people have been really caught up in senator Sanders Campaign and i think thats terrific because the more young people we can bring into the process, particularly into the democratic primary process, the better. Let me share conversations ive had with republicans. And if i say to somebody on the republican side, arent you nervous about whats happening with this campaign and this division and what might happen in the convention, do you know what i hear a lot . They are clinging to the hope that the way theyll be able to deal with that is that some point between now and the election, and they say this, that they will get to see Hillary Clinton in handcuffs. Oh my goodness. Based on your prooivate ema server. I know they live in the world of fantasy and hope because theyve got a mess on their hands on the republican side. Theres not even the remote chance that is going to happen. But theyve been after me for 25 years. And they have said things about me repeatedly that have been proven to be not only false but kind of ridiculous. But youre a lawyer. So how do you see this and do you think the fbi and the Justice Department write you a letter and say it was a misunderstanding . Were sorry, carry on . Were certainly going to carry on. I think its a security review. It is a security review. And there are lots of those that are conducted in our government all the time. And you dont hear about most of them. You hear about this one because it does involve me. So thats why it gets so much attention. But i will tell you sitting here in the bronx in this cafe, were moving forward. The republicans fondest wishes will not be fulfilled. While in the predicting mood, sitting here in new york, famously back in 1969, a guy named joe neemoth said we will win the super bowl. Will you declare right now that guaranteeing youll win the primary . I never make predictions but im really filie fooeeeling goo will happen. We find Nbcs Kristen Welker covering the Clinton Campaign in buffalo, new york. Kristen, whats the latest from the rally there . Reporter hey there. Secretary clinton is going to be talking about jobs and the economy here in buffalo. The upstate is going to be a key part of her focus in terms of her trying to win new york. Shes trying to confirm whether shes qualified by senator sanders but some of the top aides still fuming about the remarks by senator sanders and some Top Democrats are concerned that it could become foder for the gop in a general election. If she does, in fact, win the nomination. Earlier today, our own msnbc a alex and whether there are different standards. Take a look at how the former president responded. I think she would be the best president. Its obvious and its all that matters to me. I think there are some different standards. Some of them are subconscious. Reporter meanwhile, there is a fierce battle going on here in new york. Lets take a look at some of the latest polls, tamron. They show secretary clinton with a fairly comfortable double digit lead. 53 to 43 and the latest poll, 52 to 42 but if you rewind several weeks ago, that lead was about 20 points. So i am told by our campaign officials, shes going to be campaigning vigorously here from now until the time voters go to the polls. Kristen welker live for us in buffalo, new york. Thank you, kristen, and for todays microsoft pulse question. Do you think Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders war of words will divide the Democratic Party . The pulse is live at pulse. Msnbc. Com. Well keep an eye on the results. Up next, well talk to sanders supporter and former clinton labor secretary robert reich but first, the vermont senator with some fun with the 1 on seth myers last night. The 1 . Hey, 1 , what do you need all that money for . If i didnt know any better, id think you were trying to compensate for something. How is it possible that some of you are paying a lower tax rate than your secretaries . That makes less sense than the plot of batman versus superman. 1 . A heart attack doesnt care if you run everyday, or if youre young or old. 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Number two, better, and i would prefer this, pass by legislation and with my legislation, the legislation ive introduced says that the secretary of the treasury will have the authority to investigate and determine which banks pose Systemic Risk to our economy. Ie, if theyre too big to fail, they could bring down a significant part of the economy and then within a period of time, the secretary can break them up. Three out of the four largest banks in this country today, are bigger because they were too big to fail. Thats point number one. Point number two is that when you have six Financial Institutions that have assets about 58 of the gdp of this country, they issue twothirds of the credit cards and onethird of the mortgages and dont you think thats a hell of a lot . No one will let them go under. I dont disagree. The great papers question, what does it look like . After theyve broken it, thats their decision to reconfigure how to do it. On this one, i guess im conservative. And i believe in Old Fashioned boring banking. You make a deposit and make a loan. And Consumers Want to buy a home and a car, thats my definition of what banking should be about. University of california berkeley economics professor, robert reich served as labor secretary, bill Clinton Administration supporting Bernie Sanders. Secretary reich, thank you so much for joining me again. Hi, tamron. You heard that. Why couldnt he have given it to the daily news when originally asked that question . I read the transcript of the daily news interview and he did say in that interview that he, when asked, does the fed have the power to do it alone . He said he didnt know and hes not alone. Most experts are really confused whether the fed does have the power to close down a bank loan on its own and said he would do it as a president and referred to the legislation and also his power over the appointees of a group. He didnt refer to the name of the group. Under dodd frank, the group is the federal financial stabilization oversight board. But any president would have a lot of power over that board with regard to decisions as to whether a bank had to be broken up. So i dont know where this kind of tempest came from, cameron. Candidates for office, whether they be Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton or to a much larger extent the republicans dont specify in every little detail what Regulatory Agency and how they do what and where and even breaking up the big banks, Bernie Sanders has been very specific on how to do that. I think its not as egregious as rick perry saying he wants to shut down three departments and could not name the three during the infamous debate moment. When youre Bernie Sanders and this is 95 of your message, this is your dominant message and you dont have more specific answers, that i believe is why we got here and now fast forward a couple of days, he doesnt say to joe and mooe karica. He fills in the holes. Why not do that in the daily news interview . My point is that he did with regard to his answer on dodd frank. The only thing he didnt know with whether the Federal Reserve board, which is an entirely different organization. Thats irrelevant to a president s authority to shut down ba