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MSNBCW The Place For Politics 2016 April 29, 2016

Today, indiana governor, mike pence announcing this afternoon sh he is voting for ted cruz. Ive come to my decision about who im supporting. Im not against anybody but i will be voting for ted cruz in the upcoming primary. I see ted cruz as a principled conservative whos dedicated his career advocating the reagan agenda. Im pleased to support him. Ahead have that announcement. Cruz said he would welcome that endorsement claiming the party is unifying behind his candidacy. At 12 06 p. M. Today, will be listening and encourage other folks to listen swell. I respect governor pence a great deal and enthusiastically welcome his support. I will say what we are seeing happening across the country is were seeing republicans unify. Now, donald trump had also reached out to indianas governor, meeting with pence at his residence during a recent visit and also brought along new jerseys Chris Christie to that meeting. Donald trump will been california the next hour and stopping by the state convention there. Heres images for protesters now gathering outside that venue. Police there to make sure there is not a repeat of the violence that unfolded at Donald Trumps rally last night. Were in place to hash out the potential impact of governor pences endorsement and everything on this fairly busy friday. Hallie jackson covering the Cruz Campaign crisscrossing and following the stop Trump Movement maybe with its last hopes in the Hoosier State. Donald trump will appear in the state convention in the next hour. A treat to have halle and casey in washington in one place. Halle just ran in. Off the plane from chicago, and going to indiana. Hello. Thanks for coming and nice to have you here. Do you have any more sense at this hour as to what pushed governor pence to back senator cruz . He was lukewarm. Yet another tepid response from people like mitt romney and Lindsey Graham and came out and supported him and didnt do much on the campaign trail. Graham did fundraising and nikki, also backing him. Look what he did today. Talking about his praise for trump, commending trump on his comments for carrier and looking ahead to what could be a general election fight in the fall that involves donald trump and he will still vigorously support whoever the nominee is. Hes not wanting to affect the supporters in indiana jobs maybe walk the line. My sources say he was nailing down the national group. And still trying to find out what that means. There was some pressure to do this. You could tell from his body language his heart wasnt really in this. The back half ive been talking to in indiana today they dont really understand why he did this. This is the kind of thing if anything, it makes him look like hes trying to be political and have it both ways. It could potentially all right him for his election. We have unique circumstances on the ground in indiana, democrats on the left very fired up about a law passed viewed as restri restricting lbgt rights and a couple years ago pence was seen as part of that and there was backlash against him even for moderate republicans. Kind of odd move if youre going for cruz and take that risk for your own reelection and going to potentially alienate these moderate republicans ted cruz needs, why only go halfway there . I think it reflects a growing fear among republican electives alienating trump voters. Thats the bigger picture, how do you do this if trump is the nominee in the fall, how do you back ted cruz and still survive if it is a trump showdown. And we heard him praising donald trump and saying he would vote ted cruz but i will get behind whoever is on the ticket in november and fight for them. I will bring in allie. You are out there in california set to cover donald trump there. We see pictures of people ama amassing outside the venue ahead of Donald Trumps speech a little later this afternoon. Have there been any reactions so far in terms of this pence technically endorsement, more of im voting ted cruz statement . I just spoke to a cruz aide sayi ining they would have love have this endorsement and not that unhappy they dont have it. The word is ingagnostic. They had the support of bobby knight and if they had to choose they would pick bobby knight all day, not surprising as hes been appearing on camera with him several days something they are doubling down on and saying knight is strong and knows how to win and thats what theyre doubling down on so far. Nikki haley endorsed marco r rubio. That didnt necessarily help r b rubio in south carolina. I think the way the Trump Campaign is looking at this, it would have been nice if we could get it. Not all that surprising he didnt come our way and hasnt been all that persuasive in the past and i dont think its changing their strategy in the state all that much. Can you give us a sense. What are we seeing . Aerial shots of people amassing. What are you seeing on the ground . If you look behind me we have roads blocked off and protesters carrying mexican flags, im ashamed trump is here saying this bay area is not the bay area they feel endorses the kind of hate donald trump seems to preach they feel he preaches on the trail. We see someone next to us setting a stage on crates with wood over it. It seems like they will be gathering to my left right outside the entrance to the convention. Something we just saw, too, was a trump supporter who came into the convention, had to walk down this road and he was mobbed by prote protesters. He actually had to jump over hedges to get away. We asked him later what he thought of the reaction being mobbed in that way. He said he was bunched and kicked. He said, this is a movement, still something he feels very strongly about, still here as a trump supporter and plans to attend the convention. We did see a pretty huge mob come around him at that point. Law enforcement helped him get in the door to the hyatt where we are for the convention. We will continue to monitor that situation. We have that shot up. We hear from them saying were part of a movement and Trump Supporters and the stop Trump Movement and youve been following closely, is there anything left of it at this point . They are trying in indiana. We saw them stay out of the northeastern states. Some people saying maybe we shouldnt have approached it quite the way we did. I think trump came out of those five big wins with more momentum than any might have expected and made it much harder for them in indiana. They are up on the air wave, club for growth with a new ad today backing cruz. I will say when you watch and flip on the local tv in indiana, the cruz super pacs and campaign, very visible. The Trump Campaign also visible. Many groups antitrump was less clear what the impact of their activities was, you didnt see it on the airways, people not talking to me about mailers they were getting or voter contact. There is some question here. The problem is i think youve seen this greater narrative youve seen publicly elected officials, senator bob corker seem to start to warm up to trump. The stop Trump Movement has never been unified and that kind of thing only splinters it further. On the flip side, ted cruz, this is where his history with a lot of people in washington is ing back to bite him, if they were able to unify behind him this would be a different story. The reality is everything is so fractured and cruz has squand squandered some of the Campaign Time in indiana people feel and thats problematic. We heard ted cruz say people are unifying now. He wants them to, even if he is to fight against the Washington Cartel he would love the support to come out and publicly back him. I had an aide say who would we call for endorsements, given cruz history on capitol hill and how supports have been built. Kay bailey hutchison, you heard her say that was a step in the right direction with trumps views on women and how he will go after Hillary Clinton. The stop trump wants to keep fig fighting. They want to pick up the fight and make indiana a battleground. Do they have enough juice left to make a difference. Theyre arguing we cant get a candidate over the line when theyre not close to the line. A circular firing squad, wheres my help . And the group saying, wheres my candidate . Thats been one of the things. Our own political thing, chuck todd wrote about it, one of the biggest issues with the stop Trump Movement, all youre doing is promoting negative, youre not giving people one alternative and thats one thing that stalled momentum. In many ways, thats politics 101. People want to vote for someone, something they can get behind. The idea you will just sell people on a negative. The idea is donald trump is so unique he can be the person you want to vote against. Those were fervently for him and those against him. This is happening in burlingame, california. If youre familiar with the San Francisco bay area, thats south of San Francisco. This is all happening a shore distance from where Donald Trumps plane is arriving making his way to the state convention. I also want to bring in pengu s penguinsbupenguins bu bring in ben ginsberg, with us. As we continue to monitor these events on the ground in california in anticipation of Donald Trumps arrival and his speech, we were touching on here the issue happening in washington, were seeing yesterday, ben, more people come out and endorse deficit. Were hearing more about the meetings Paul Manafort had on capitol hill and at the same time, were hearing from elected officials better to focus on bipartisan efforts and more down ballot races than tie yourself to the top of a ticket, which could hurt both a ted cruz and a donald trump. Whats your read today on washington and where this town sits with these two men . The town is one where people are going to be for whats going to happen, so i think you will have to see what happens in indiana. That would actually create more of a tidal wave one way or the other, either to the donald trump side or the stop trump side. I think what is also true is what you said is about the down ticket race. In fact, if you look at the spending reports, Republican National committee is not going to be able to fund the ground game, simply because they havent been able to raise the money because its taken so throng find a nominee. That means members of the senate and members of the house are very aware of what they need to do for themselves to maintain the majorities on each side. Thats a little bit of why youre seeing these equivocating statements and not seeing more for one candidate or the other. Were looking at a live picture of Donald Trumps plane arriving there. Would we see images like this of people amassing for protests outside an event where donald trump will be, how much of a concern is there among establish republicans how this will play out . There may be a concern amongst establish republicans how it will play out. 100 people gathering in San Francisco is probably not going to be part of that factor. So, again, what people in washington will be thinking about is what this means for individual races in individual states. Honestly, thats not going to be impacted by 100 protesters in the bay area. Allie, as youre watching this, too, i would imagine, the refrain weve heard the last several months, any sort of protests really play into Donald Trumps message. On one hand, yes, he says he loves the protesters to force the crowd. Last night he said i wish we had protesters in here so the media would pan the crowd to show the people. There were not that many. On the outside there were hundreds of protesters and a shattered windshield on a police car was what i saw that showed how tense that protest was outside that rally. I think that goes against what donald trump wants despite the fact he says the wants the protesters inside his rallies because it means more crowd s w showing, it also shows hes attracting a certainly amount of violence to his rallies evident everywhere you go across the country in multiple places in chicago and last night, people coming out and pushing back against his message in a tense violent way. Those escalate when you put Trump Supporters and protesters in the same place. I think thats what you will see today. Our camera is looking at a shot at the hotel with a banner in the hotel that says stop hate. Theyre not only outside but inside swell. That just goes to show the scope of how many people are out here really coalescing against this candidate drawing so much controversy who they feel is bringing so much hate and such a hateful message to the Republican Party right now. You mentioned that image we have of that banner and were seeing the wider aerial shot from the people amassing there. How tense it was last night. Does it feel the same way today . I think to a certain extent, not to say day and night makes a difference. The fact it was late at night last night really did make it feel a little bit more daunting in terms of what the Police Presence was. Last night we saw cops on horses as well as in riot gear as well as backup trucks that they were using to keep the peace and shuttle people down the road. Here, were seeing a blocked offroad that does keep people away from the hotel and prote protesters not as much. As much as there has been a little bit of violence in terms how the one conventiongoer was treated when he walked through the crowd, a little more pea peaceful much less tense vibe. We were seeing people burning in sense earlier, silent protests, people sitting on the ground trying to silently block people from entering the convention. Definitely not, at least from what ive seen yet as tense as last night, not to say that weve seen, in a moment, anything can change, one person shout the wrong way and elicit a response and definitely something you have to look for and something were looking at when you cover all these prot t protests outside trump rallies and events and lingering along the edges and will pop up any moment. We know you will cover it as we monitor the situation and protesters descending on the convention and happening in buehrle game in San Francisco and thanks to all of you, as we continue to cover the latest developments today. Stay with us and take a short break and be back, msnbc the place for politics. Draw ligly , just like i would with a real pencil. Ive been a forensic artist for over 30 years. I do the composite sketches which are the bad guy sketches. You need good resolution, powerful processor because the computer has to start thinking as fast as my brain does. I do this because i want my artwork to help people. Mary buys a little lamb. One of millions of orders on this companys servers. Accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. But with Cyber Threats on the rise, marys data could be under attack. With the helof the at t network, a network that senses and mitigates Cyber Threats, their Critical Data is safer than ever. 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Daytime is different than nighttime and it can unroll in a different fashion. This is something we will continue to follow throughout this hour and Donald Trumps speech that will be happening later and more and more people gathering in the area and Law Enforcement is on the ground there. When it comes to the Trump Campaign. The campaign along with Hillary Clintons campaign have both clearly been looking toward a general election. Thats happening more and more in these days, as we approach those important numbers of delegates for each of the candidates. The Trump Campaign, as i ment n mentioned, saying bill clintons past sexual indiscretions will be on

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