Also got a lot of news and a really good guest here tonight for the interview, somebody whos doing his first Live Television interview since getting a really important job in the government. But here we go. It is an unusual source of hope for three british families tonight that had the city of istanbul in turkey has no freaking idea how to deal with large amounts of snow. Much like our cities here in the southeast that got whacked by sfloe this snow this week nothing against the cities but they have no idea how to deal with it. Much like whats going on in the american southeast this week. Istanbul in turkey is also not used to getting a ton of snow but they got like a foot of sfloe this week. They shut down the airport. They diverted tons and tons of international flights, including some that were already in the air before they got diverted. One shop keeper in istanbul got so upset by a group of guys having a snowball fight outside his shop that he stormed out of his shop and stabbed a guy. Apparently he did not realize that snowballs actually are not a deadly threat either to him or his shop. People who live in istanbul dont have snow tires or fourwheel drive cars. They have no idea who you to drive in the snow. One day this week when they got the heaviest snowfall officials in istanbul reported more than 800 car crashes in the city in that one day. 800. But istanbul being shut down by snow right now. Its a minor weather story in its own right. It is a major story, a major potentially life or death story for the three families of these three teenage girls from england. These three teenage girls told their families in england on Tuesday Morning that they were going off to school. Two of them are 15 years old. One is 16 years old. Theyre all good friends, all a students in high school in britain. They told their families what they were going to school. What they did instead was turn up at the airport in london got on a Turkish Airways flight to istanbul. Their families now believe they were planning to land in turkey, then cross the border from turkey into syria to go join isis. And the families major source of hope right now is that they may be able to stop these girls by virtue of the fact that turkey has been socked in by this huge snowstorm and that has pretty much stopped anybody from being able to travel anywhere efficiently in big parts of that country and that is their hope. That is their hope right now. Today the metropolitan police. London made a Public Appeal for anybody who might know anything that might stop these three british schoolgirls before they get to syria, before they get to isis. The three girls walk through security at Londons Gatwick airport showing no hint of their intentions. They flew to istanbul, bound for syria, officials fear to join isis. This 15yearold, this 16yearold and another 15yearold whose parents asked not to be named raised alarm bells when they didnt come home tuesday night. These three families had no idea of the intentions of their daughters. No idea whatsoever that they were going to be traveling to turkey and that they intended to go to syria. Reporter they were known as normal teenagers, good students. But on one twitter account sunday, a message to a female isis member a known recruiter asking for a private conversation. The three girls are known to be Close Friends and in the same form here at this academy. But it has emerged that they were also friends with a fourth girl who traveled from gatwick last december. Shes in syria now and its thought her journey may have inspired them. Thats reporting both from nbc news and from itv in london today. About these three london schoolgirls about whom the British Police have issued a public alert hoping that these girls can be found before tle end up with isis in syria. Also today, nbc just put together some remarkable reporting. They found a 16yearold boy who had joined isis in syria as a 15yearold. He became one of isis child soldiers. He was wounded fighting alongside isis and everything. He ultimately became disillusioned and he quit isis. Nbcs jamie novagrad found this kid in hiding in turkey and just did this remarkable interview with him. Watch this. 16yearold khaled says he is lost and on the run. We found him in this turkish city near the border with syria. He agreed to an interview on the condition that we not show his face. Translator im not afraid here but im afraid of isis. Reporter he was once part of isis. He didnt like it so he escaped. Isis calls its child soldiers lion cubs of the caliphate. It celebrates them in propaganda videos like this one. Children are trained to use a rifle, given classes in religion, and taught to love isis and hate its enemies. Then the children are sent into combat. For khaled that day came sooner than he expected. His camp was attacked only two weeks after he had first picked up a gun. Four isis fighters were killed. Khaled was shot in the neck. He was terrified and he missed home. His mother heard he had been wounded and she found him at the isis camp. What did she say to you . Translator she said take care of yourself. He cant continue telling his story without crying. Two months later, he managed to escape across the border to turkey. He now lives in hiding sleeping in a cheap hotel. What would you say to a young person who came up to you and said im thinking about joining isis. Translator i will tell him my whole story. I will tell him dont do it. That remarkable interview for nbc news today. Whether it is boys from syria, like that 16yearold kid, or teenagers from the west apparently like these three girls from east london whose parents are desperately looking for them right now, isis brags about using young people using teenagers, using kids. They do it in those propaganda videos. They also do it online in their social media presence. Here for example is a proisis twitter account. Posting a picture of child soldiers from an isis propaganda video and the tweet says in english, there you can see it the bravest of men here are between the ages of 11 and 13. The Sleeping Lion is now been awoken. You can see from the stats there, didnt get a huge amount of traffic. That tweet was retweeted 20 times. It was favorited 12 times. But you know what else that tweet got . It got a direct response from the u. S. State department. On the state Department Twitter account thats called think again turn away they respond directly to that guys tweet. That guy bragging about the isis child soldiers and calling those 1 1yearold kids brave men. Look at the state department response. Theyre writing directly to this guy. It takes men with absolutely no honor to rob children of their innocence, encourage them to kill, use them as conenanon fodder. Having this rg ament online about these child soldiers these kids. Isis does these super slickly produced propaganda videos. They have a big slick social media presence. It is part of how they are able to recruit muslim kids from all over the world so aggressively. And its interesting, the most visible fight against isis in that space online where they operate so effectively, the most visible fighters against them online have actually been the hackers who hate them. You might remember right after the Charlie Hebdo attacks in paris, the hacker collective anonymous, the guy fox mask as their symbol they basically declared online war against isis after the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Say expect a massive reaction from anonymous. We are tracking you down we will find you and never leave you any rest. They did this threatening video. They push blishd a big long list of websites and twitter accounts that they said were affiliated with isis and were isis supporters. And annoy muss,onymous systematically just started knocking them offline. They had all been knocked offline. Now they started another round of that. Anonymous has posted a new list of hundreds of other twitter feeds and social media accounts that they say are linked to terrorists and terrorist propaganda specifically to isis. And as hackers, anonymous has targeted those websites and those social media accounts and knocked them offline. But you know they really are just an anonymous collective of random hackers. Right . I mean anonymous is really nothing official. As they have been going after isis online and knocking off all of these twitter accounts and social media accounts and websites they have also recently in the last few days given a friendly nudge to governments and to Companies Like twitter saying hey, if were just a bunch of hackers doing this at home in our pa jam pla as can attack isis you can, too, governments of the world. Greetings citizens of the world. Governments and corporations. We are anonymous. First a message to isis. Isis, we will hunt you, take down your sites, accounts emails, and expose you, this time we will expose your new twitter accounts with our last operation, isis we show the world and especially governments its not that hard to fight back isis online. So why no government doing it they dont know how, though they dont want to. It is so weird to engage with the talking computer voice guy fox mask guy. Right . But there is how anonymous communicates. Anonymous is basically saying here, hey, we are able to totally disrupt isis online. Why do we have to do this . Shouldnt governments be doing this . But then they make a very specific offer. Were opening new accounts that isis members and supporters have created since then. Were not trying to tell you how to do your job, but just trying to help out. Were just trying to help out. Your friendly neighborhood of spooky hackers. It is really nice that theyre against isis right . Theyre going to destroy somebody online. If you had to pick one, youd have them destroy isis online. Right . But anonymous is also basically clal lengthing governments achbd also Tech Companies saying what theyre doing is not that hard. More can be done to shut isis down in terms of their Online Presence, online propaganda online social networking. Well, this week the u. S. Government said basically the u. S. Government said yeah. The u. S. Government this week said they are upping what they are doing against isis online. In terms of isis online recruiting and their Online Presence an their online propaganda. And the u. S. Government lass just put a new guy in charge of their efforts. The newly designated wait it is a long title special envoy for strategic counterterrorism communications. At the state department. He is the First American muslim to hold this job or any job like it. His name is Rashad Hussein and hes our guest tonight for the interview. This is his first live american tv interview since taking over this new post. Mr. Hussein, congratulations on your new gig. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me rachel. Let me ask you a laymans question here, layman in terms of not understand being the overall strategy here. Do you fight isis online by taking their stuff down by closing their accounts by trying to wipe them off the web, or do you fight them online by leaving them up but trying to keith with their message instead . Well, the challenge that were facing online is that terrorists around the world are in many cases using perverted interpretation of islam and theyre playing off the grievances of people around the world, particularly disaffected young people and trying to recruit them to their ideology. They are offering a message which they say provides a sense of purpose, a sense of meaning and a sense of religious obligation. So its our obligation to work with our International Partners around the world to provide an alternative message and to promote a positive alternatives. We want to amplify facts that we believe speak for themselves. And if you hear the voices and the arguments of former radicals as the ones that you just profiled on your show and you hear the voices of muslims around the world that have rejected their message and you amplify the fact that murzs are muslims are overalmostwhelmingly the victims of terror attacks worldwide. There are parts of our countergovernment that will do the more covert parts of this project, taking down websites and things like that but our focus and what we are doing is working with our International Partners and coming up with flish tifs initiatives to prevent violent extremism, also to work in the online space to coordinate our messaging as the United States government. We believe that there is a role for government but obviously there is a huge role for Civil Society and a huge role for our partners around the world often times which will be in many cases credible with audiences in their immediate geographical regions. Everybody says that isis is so good at their Online Presence. Obviously we can see from the quality of their propaganda films that theyre very good at Video Editing and special effects, stuff like that. But in terms of how they recruit online and how they reach people online and the way their message resonates online why are they so effective . What is actually so good about what they do . We have to acknowledge the fact that they are playing off of grievances that in many cases are widely held around the world. Theyre playing offer the grievance of muslim suffering. They say 200,000 to 300,000 people have been killed in syria and they make the point that the world isnt doing anything about it. We have to counter those facts, put the right facts out there. They play off this notion of the caliphates which many muslims around the world look at and, quite frankly, those that are uneducated dont understand. So they make this argument that once the caliphate has been established, that muslims around the world have to go there and fight. Now there are people that have grievances around the world and may be disaffected for a number of reasons, and that combines with this violent ideology theyre putting out and creates a dangerous combination. Theres grievances about lack of opportunity, economic opportunity. There is political grievances in many cases against their own governments for suppression, political expression for violations of human rights for violations of freedom of religion, for example. And so they play off those grievances and try to have a hook which provides a sense of meaning and purpose and religious obligation which in many cases can be very powerful. Can i ask you one specific question about something that emerged in the news today. There were some reports today that al arabiya obtained some really specific identifying personal information about the selfproclaimed leader of the caliphate and isis, al baghdadi. Whether that information turns out to be true that strategiry helpful making that public stla a way of going after these guys a way of interrupting their e inginge inging flaire inging narrative about themselves . Their actions speak for themselves. Look what theyve done over the last months. Youve seen brewal executions in libya. Weve seen the jordanian pilot thats burned alive. There is nothing in islam which permits this. These actions are prohibited. To the extent they are recruiting young muslims from around the world, we have to be clear when they are calling people to defend islam and muslims, what theyre actually doing is lamping islam and muslims more. Oftentimes it is our partners around the world, governmental partners and more importantly, nongovernmental partners that will be essential in making that message. I have had the opportunity to have honest conversations with muslims around the world. What theyll tell you is that theyll acknowledge that many of these actions are lapping inhappening in different parts of the world in the name of islam. But theyll also say the overwhelming majority of muslims reject these actions. Incredible muslim voices and leaders have spoken out. But despite that muslim communities around the world are often the targets of unfair treatment because of actions that are occurring in the name of islam. Muslims are constantly having to play defense on these issues and deal with discrimination whether theyre trying to go about their own daily lives and their careers. They do believe that they have an obligation to speak up with this and theyre doing their part, but there is a challenge. It is what the president and secretary have called a generational challenge. It is something that were going to be working on over the next couple of years. Rashad hussain, thank you. Again, congratulations on this really important new job. Thanks for being here tonight. Thanks. Great to be with you. Fascinating stuff. Plaj imagine if thats your job. Make isis sound dumb in the world. You no he . Make their arguments not stick anymore. Thats incredibly important work. It feels like the government lass to make a decision to try to do that. And it makes sense as a strategy whether it comes to actually the tactics of how you do it its fascinating stuff and an incredible task that people couldnt have even imagined a role for our government in doing. Even a generation ago. Lots more tonight including president obama slowing what i believe is fair to call undisguised joy in public. Theres confidence. Sowing what i believe is fair to call undisguised joy in public. 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