Transcripts For MSNBCW The Rachel Maddow Show 20161028 04:00

MSNBCW The Rachel Maddow Show October 28, 2016 04:00:00

Its very last minute. It appears to be them jumping back in in a very big way. Its interesting, weve got details on that ahead. Weve also got tremendously good names tonight concerning the obama family. Its news that is slightly more personal than it is political, but thats ahead tonight as well. So theres lots lots coming up, including for once some news that is more good than bad, which is always nice. But were going to start tonight with some new tape that has never been heard publicly before. Its never been broadcast before. Were going to break this here live tonight with you. And i have to tell you, youll be surprised to hear this, but this new tape that has never been broadcast before, it is tape from the greatest Baseball Player in new york. I was the best Baseball Player in new york when i was young. Do you recognize that voice . Thats a remarkable thing to have learned today from this brand new tape thats never been broadcast before. Its donald trump speaking. He says when i was young, so were thinking were talking about maybe he was 17 or 16 years old, when he was 16 years old, that was 1962. Thats when the yankees went to the world series, they won the world series. It was like mickey mantle, roger maris. Even if you dont know anything about baseball, you know mickey mantle. But it turns out none of them were the best Baseball Player in new york that year. No, it was this other guy. I was the best Baseball Player in new york when i was young. This is the best tape weve gotten our hands on in a very long time. This is incredible. All right. This is from 2014. There is a pulitzer prizewinning reporter named michael dantonio. In preparing the book he did hours and hours of interviews with donald trump, just raw footage of them talking. Some of those tapes have been obtained by the New York Times. The the New York Times has been doing a little bit of reporting on them recently but they have not published this audio we are about to play. I dont totally want to spoil it here, but arm chair psychologists, start your engines. This is incredible. I went to military academy, New York Military Academy for five years, from the year before freshman. So eighth grade on . Yes. Whose idea was this . Well, i was very rebellious and my parents thought it would be a good idea. I was very rebellious. I loved to fight. I always love to fight. Physical fights. All kinds of fights. Physical. Arguments . All types of fights. Any kind of fight i loved it, including physical. And i was always the best athlete, something that nobody knew about me. But one guy you should speak to before its too late, because hes a pretty old guy now, is major dobias. So when dobias was a Drill Sergeant in the army, and these guys were rough. This guy was so rough. In those days, theyd smack the hell out of you. Its not like today where you smack somebody and you end up going to jail for the rest of your life. So i went up there, ill never forget. Eighth grade . And im standing there at military academy. This guy comes up and hes like a bulldog too, rough guy. He was a Drill Sergeant. Now they call him major dobias. But when i first knew him he was sergeant dobisa right right army. He was physically rough and mentally rough. He was also my baseball coach. And he said things like stand up, and i went give me a [ bleep ] break. And this guy came at me. You would never believe it. It was really fantastic. Did he rough you up . Oh, yeah, absolutely. Grabbed you by the shirt . Well, it doesnt matter, but it was not like what happens today. And you had to learn to survive. It was tough. It wasnt today. Those were rougher times. That was before vietnam and these were guys that didnt take [ bleep ]. You must call him, before its too late. Ask him about how was trump as an athlete . Because he said he coached for many, many it was like 35 years. He said donald trump was the best athlete ive ever coached. Donald trump was the best Baseball Player ive ever coached. You know, just something to when did you know that you were good . I always knew i was good. I was always a good athlete. I was always the best athlete. Like in first grade if the kids the a game from before the first grade. I was the best Baseball Player in new york when i was young. Now, in those days, you know, You Couldnt Play Baseball because there was no real you know, it wasnt a thing. Plus my father was in the real estate business, which i didnt want to go into. I wanted to go into theater. I wanted to go into sports. But i also know that was very limited because in those days you couldnt even make any money being a great Baseball Player. Didnt the dodgers train at west point a couple times, in the spring . Everybody wanted me to be a Baseball Player. Right. But i was a good at other things too. I was good at wrestling. I was really good at football. I was a good i was always good at sports. I was always like the best at sports. Always the best. At all sports. My favorite part of that, i love the explanation for why, you know, nobody knows even now that he was the greatest Baseball Player in new york. He says when i was young, i was the best Baseball Player in new york when i was young. Now he says but, you know, in those days, baseball wasnt really a thing. I was the best Baseball Player in new york when i was young. Now in those days You Couldnt Play Baseball because there was no real, you know, it wasnt a thing. He says in those days you couldnt even make any money being a Baseball Player. Again, the time hes talking about here is when he was in high school, like 1962, 1963. Yankees going to the world series. Some of the best remembered games of all time. Baseball, unequivocally the national pastime. Mickey mantle a national hero. But donald trump didnt want to bother showing up all of those lesser Baseball Players because baseball wasnt really a thing then. We didnt really have leather covered balls, we just had rocks that we hid into the cave art. Baseball wasnt a thing then . Thats why you werent . Everybody wanted him to play but there wasnt really a baseball organization. Donald trump believes, not hyperbolically, not jokingly, but apparently in all seriousness that he was the greatest Baseball Player in new york when he was a young man. He was the best at that. He was the best at all of sports. And why, mr. Trump, were you the best . I think you have a natural ability at things. Im a Big Believer In nature. No, not nature. Im a Big Believer In natural ability. I believe in being prepared and all that stuff. But in many respects, the most important thing is an innate ability. And you knew this as a kid . No, i never thought of it as a kid. Do you think you had it even then . Always. When you look back at yourself i had it. I always had it. I always had it. I never had to work. Other people have to prepare and do stuff, but i just came down from heaven, for example, as the greatest Baseball Player in new york. Were you a good hitter . The best. I was the best hitter. It gives you some insight, right . I mean if that is how this president ial candidate thinks of himself and has always thought of himself going back to first grade no, no, no, before first grade, i mean if you understand that that is how he thinks of himself, then it is not a surprise when he, like, for example, today on The Campaign Trail tells a crowd of supporters in ohio that basically he is sick of this election. He is sick of all this working to earn this presidency thing. Hes sick of it. Just give it to me already. What a difference. You know, what a difference this is. And just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election and just give it to trump, right . Why are we having it for . Just give it to trump. What are we having it for . What are you having this election for . I know. If you think of yourself as a person who has never actually had to work for anything because you were born innately great, you were bornin ately as the great is athlete, if you were excellent at everything you ever tried because you were born basically perfect, then why should you have to compete for something. I deserve it by virtue of me being me. So it offers an insight. This tape from the trump biographer which provided it to the New York Times, i think this is newsworthy tape, and i think it is helpful to understanding how donald trump is running for president now, because he on tape here talks in this very unguarded way about how he sees himself and that is a rare thing we dont ever get from any candidate, let alone from him. But there is another piece of this tape that has never been heard publicly before, which we have got for you in just a second. And this other piece of tape, i think this is just like a dart into the heart of todays news. And its on a subject that has only come up a little bit in the campaign so far. It came up for an instant earlier in this campaign when donald trump named mike pence to be his running mate. One of the controversial things in mike pences record is that he is on record being against Women In The Military. From the very beginning of him running for congress, mike pence was against not just women in combat, but even women being in combat support units. He was even against women being allowed to do basic training for the military. Mike pence wrote this creepy column in 1999 about young nubile 18yearold women in basic training. The column ends with this line, i kid you not. Women in the military, bad idea. Thats the bottom line of his column on Women In The Military. So thats on record already from mike pence, Donald Trumps running mate, when pence was a talk radio host. That was the time he lost running for congress. That run most remembered for mike pence using Campaign Contributions to pay for his mortgage, his grocery bills, his car payment and his golfing fees. He let his donors pay for all that stuff. If mike pence were running in any normal republican, i think he would have been a scandal as a running mate. Things in his record would have been a scandal and a problem to his running mate. It is testament to donald trump that he is so controversial that picking mike pence with mike pences record, It Hasnt Given Donald Trump a single day of heartburn in the entire campaign. I mean if in this campaign anybody could Pay Attention to mike pence for more than ten seconds without passing out for lack of oxygen, this thing from him about Women In The Military, bad idea, that would be a scandal, right . That would be a problem for a campaign. Maybe it will be still some day. For a long time i felt like this issue has been a Lurking Liability for trump and pence, just sort of waiting at some point to cause them trouble. Well, now that trouble may finally be coming to pass, because now with this new tape that we are about to broadcast for the first time ever, this has never been heard publicly any time before, this is the first time anywhere, here is donald trump not 16 years ago or 18 years ago when mike pence was talking about this stuff, heres donald trump two years ago in 2014, unprompted, answering a totally unrelated question. Just deciding to bring up voluntarily his donald trump opinion on Women In The Military. When you were young, what did you think of the 60s counterculture, the hippies, the music . You didnt do any of that stuff. No, i wasnt into it. It wasnt that i wasnt into it. What did you think . Well, i went i went to a military academy, which was from a different planet. We didnt have that. And we didnt have women in the academy at that time. Today you have women, which is a whole other story, you know, women in the army, and you see Whats Going On. Its like bedlam. It is bedlam. Its something that people arent talking about, but Whats Going On is bedlam, bringing women in the army. Bringing women in the army, Women In The Military, its bedlam. And his running mate says Women In The Military, bad idea. Ask military families how they feel about that in a potential commander in chief. Ask Women In The Military how they feel about that in a potential commander in chief. Ask women in general how they feel about that. Bringing women into the army, bedlam. Its something people arent talking about, but Whats Going On is bedlam. Bringing women in the army, its bedlam. Women in the military, bad idea. The two of them are in line on that question. It is, therefore, a reasonable question to ask if trump and pence do get elected, will they kick all women out of the military . Theyre both on record saying it is a terrible thing that women are in the military. Its a terrible thing, its even a disgusting thing. We ought to go back to only men serving in the military. Is that what we should do . This one has been lurking just under the surface for them for quite a while, but now weve got it on tape. I would love to hear an answer for this. Okay. Live here next well have the latest on what just happened at new Yorks Laguardia airport where indiana governor mike pences plane has skidded off the runway and the airport has been shut down. Thankfully nobody was hurt in this incident, but we are getting in some crazy images of the actual runway. Can you guys see those images there . Look at the tarmac. This is what this hard landing, this skidding off the runway, look what it did to the actual tarmac, to the actual concrete. Again, this was a hard landing tonight, last hour involving the republican nominee for Vice President and his campaign jet. Well talk with someone who was on that flight when it went off the runway. Somebody who says interestingly this is not the first time mike pences plane has had a really bad landing, which is an interesting thing. Whys that . Thats next. Members of the press were on that plane. We also think we saw a congressman from texas. We heard that a 737 usually comes in for a landing at 155 miles an hour and when its a wet, slick night like tonight, this kind of thing can happen. But the faa and maybe the ntsb will be looking into this incident to determine exactly what caused it here. Ill show you again, this is what the plane did to the tarmac at laguardia as it slid off the runway. I didnt know that that happened when you slid off a runway. All the air traffic at laguardia was suspended for over an hour in the wake of this incident. We are told as soon as the plane came to a rest following its rough landing and its slide into the grass with mud flying up and hitting the windows, governor pence immediately came to the back of the plane to check that everybody was okay. God bless him, thats the right thing to do. As you can see hes fine. He also stopped with photos withFirst Responders in the rain. He had been scheduled to attend a fundraiser in new york city tonight but his spokesman said instead he is headed to his hotel for the night, absolutely totally understandable. About an hour after the incident the governor tweeted so thankful everyone on our plane is safe. Grateful for our First Responders and the concern and prayers of so many. Back on the trail tomorrow. Again, the most important thing here is no injuries as far as we know. But certainly some jangled nerves and some rushes of adrenaline and none of us need any of that at this time. Joining us now is a man onboard that plane, vaughn hillyard. He was on the plane when it slid off the runway. Vaughn, let me shake your hand. Im glad youre okay. Were you scared . No. The crazy part is this Wasnt The First Time first time weve gone off the runway, but weve had a lot of shaky incidents in the past. Hard impact, tough landings. We actually pulled out the phone this time and i snapped originally about ten seconds of video, which im trying to get into the system here eventually for everybody, but the crazy part was originally we had the hard impact and then we went two or three seconds and thats with we started to swerve off to the right. And then all of a sudden we come to just a hard crashing stop. And thats when you looked out the window and you can see that the road was oddly close to where the plane was at. The road with cars on it. The road with cars. The circle k across the street. Thats when it became real. So when you say you were trying to get tape, you were filming as you were landing. Is that because you were expecting a hard landing because youve had so many . Its a joke. Its a joke how long are we going to last. Thats the part the fact that im on with you tonight is sort of the interesting end of this. This camera, weve captured a lot of crazy things in this campaign, but to get to the point where this is the news of the night was wait a second. Youre saying its become a joke how long are we going to last. Youre saying that the hard landings on the Pence Campaign plane specifically are so frequent and so notable that its a point of discussion among the press corps . Yes. And ill be honest that ive never pursued that. We havent pursued asking questions further about that because usually we dont fly on private, i guess, charter flights on campaign. This is my First Campaign covering so we just took it for granted. Have

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