Live from lower manhattan. And give us a sense of the mood there. It is 13 years on, but as we saw from that clip a Family Member reading names of their loved one, theres raw emotion for the survivors of the 9 11 attacks. Without a doubt, joy. This is an emotional day. And each day we come up on 9 11 remembering what happened, it is still charged we motion. There are heart wrenching images. One of the things, i want to share numbers with you. And that is this. Of about 3,000 children who lost their parents on 9 11, some 300 of those children were in kindergarten. Think about the span of time, more than 100 of those children are entering college. The good news here is that 100 of those children will have their schools totally paid for with full scholarships by something called the friends of freedom Scholarship Fund. It is now a 100 million fund to help those children, victims, children who lost their loved one on that day. More than just one week after the attack, the Scholarship Fund was brought together, and more than 20,000 people donated. It was pointed out that even back then, people were thinking about these children. When they were in kindergarten, and recognizing their needs would grow over time and they wanted to make certain that one of the things these children would not have to worry about is if they chose to go to college, they wouldnt have to worry about how it would be paid for. Its a powerful notion of generosity of people back then and even now. And its reflected in the fact these children will not have that to worry about as they remember the loved ones they lost on this day 13 years ago. Thank you so much for that powerful positive story. Former new jersey governor tim kaine is the former chairman of the 9 11 commission. And i really appreciate you joining me today, sir. This is an anniversary thats taking place at a time when the president of the United States as we saw in the clips we played earlier is focusing the nations attention on isis, on a terrorist organization that has killed two americans in ghoulish fashion. And now there is this sense that they are being sort of replaced, they are sort of replacing al qaeda as a Terror Threat that americans worry about attacking here. How real in your judgment is the threat of isis here . At the moment, not very real. I dont think isis has the capability to attack the homeland right now. Al qaeda does. But no, i dont think so. But in the future, a year or two now from now, if we dont do something about them, they will have the capabilities. So you were one of the cochairs of the 9 11 commission and one of the things that came out of your work was a set of recommendations of what the country needed to do to safeguard itself so we wouldnt be surprised a second time by a 9 11style attack. Number one, has the country done substantially what your commission thought we ought to do . Its done most of the recommendations, not all of them. A couple very important ones we havent touched yet. But most of them have been done. Interestingly enough, one of our recommendations was, first of all, if iraq becomes a fail state, it becomes a terrible problem for the world. And secondly, never again must we give any terrorist group a chance to plot and plan unsafe territory. Now, al qaeda had safe territory in afghanistan, isis might have safe territory in iraq. Thats one of the reasons its so important not to allow them to have the two or three years to plan, which it took to plan 9 11. Ill let you listen to the president last night in the speech he gave in prime time last night. This is him talking about his assessment of what the threat of isis is right now. Well, we have not yet detected specific plotting against our homeland, isil leaders have threatened america and our allies. And of course, your report with lee hamilton said something similar, which is essentially, they are spinoffs of al qaeda and primarily focused right now on regional conflicts. How do we get from a to b . How do we ensure that the safe havens dont turn into bases of operations to do something similar to what was done in 9 11 . It took three years to plan 9 11, train people and everything else. We cannot give them the time or the space to do that. So weve got to disrupt and the president s right, weve got to disrupt what theyre doing. Weve got to destroy what theyre doing, weve got to make sure that nobody can plan the kind of destruction that was visited on so many of us in 9 11. And even internally, americans are very uncomfortable with things like the data retrieval programs that you had with the nsa and the government explanation for that is, well, if somebody is in london, berlin, a part of, affiliated with, sympathetic to a group like isis and theyre calling here to the United States, we want to be able to detect it. Can we draw down substantially that kind of capability . Our intelligence capability and data sifting capability and still be safe from a threat like al qaeda . Because were in a whole new era with computers and technology and all that, weve got to use the same kind of technology that the terrorists are using to try to get at us to stop them. So, yeah, a lot of this big data has got to be used in a way that American People understand. Right. The congress approves, that we all buy into. And that was the problem. They didnt tell us. They snuck up on us and found out what were doing afterwards. You mentioned congress. Shouldnt congress have more of a role in this . They do feel like they are a secondary background player in something where they should be right out front. Theyve got to be out front. Theyre our representative no matter what we think of. Theyre our representatives and theyve got to be out front. And ill tell you, reform of congress is the most obvious unmet recommendation that we made. Congress has not reformed itself, congress does not give the proper oversight to the intelligence agencies, Homeland Security reports to 94 different committees, can you imagine having thats no oversight at all. So congress has got to get out front. But theyve got to reform themselves. So far they havent done much else. Reform might be difficult. What is the most important unmet recommendation that was recommended by your commission that should be done that has not been done yet . Congress. I mean, thats the most important. Because we cant tell what intelligence is doing because its secret. Right. So congress is the only one that has any oversight. So if intelligence is not doing the right thing, congress is the one who has got to bring them up to task. Yeah. If congressional has dysfunctional oversight. And a word used by congressman toomey, then were not going to do it. They dont have proper commission, committees on the budget control of the intelligence areas. Right. They have these 94 different committees. What makes the whole thing terrible. Its just its a lack of responsibility by the United States congress right now and makes us left safe. And feels like theyre so mired in politics, they arent focusing on the things youre talking about. You wrote an interesting oped, if isis is not the primary threat to the United States right now in terms of terrorism, you write that cyber terrorism is something that should be more perceive le prevalent in our minds, explain. I took to every lead Intelligence Officer in the Obama Administration and people who just left. They all brought up cyber as the thing. They said they were not prepared, congress hasnt passed the bill, the administration hasnt gotten it coordinated. Meanwhile, people are stealing our secrets, military and civilian secrets, going to cost us jobs in the future because our technologys getting a i way. And one of the Intelligence Officers told me its the largest transfer of knowledge in World History is going on right now being stolen quietly from us and going to people who dont wish us any good will. Another thing to put on Congress Long to do list which is getting longer. Governor tom kaine, former cochair of the 9 11 commission. Thank you very much. Appreciate you being here. Thank you for having me. And next, will congress, who we just mentioned, get behind the president s plan . Will they hold a vote or do anything at all . And what about the concern about giving the president more authorization to wage war could open up more trouble down the road. Senator ben carden joins us. 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Secretary john kerry, after all, is traveling in the middle east trying to build support and his next stop is turkey where members of the u. S. Military will train Syrian Rebels to fight isis. Of course, thats if congress okays the funding. Now, as you may expect, Democratic Leaders today seem to be onboard with the president s plan. What about the republicans . Many of whom received a secret intel briefing today. How are they reacting . A lot of our members dont feel like the campaign that was outlined last night will accomplish the mission that the president says. Im confident that the steps the president laid out last night can degrade isis, but thats not sufficient to protect our people. Senator ben carden of maryland is a member of the Senate Foreign relations committee. Thank you so much for being here. We just had on governor tom kaine, a cochair of the 9 11 commission. And he said the single most important thing we can do to prevent another 9 11style attack on the United States is for congress to get its act together, reform itself, and start exercising proper oversight, including over the intelligence agencies. Would you agree with that . Well, joy, i do think its important for congress to speak on this. I would hope that the congress and administration and would be together on Foreign Policy. We need to lead International Action against this barbaric terrorist group known as isis or isil. I think what congress will do in our oversight capacity is to make sure that whatever we do, it will not be used for a longterm engagement of the u. S. Military and will not use u. S. Military where the country in which these terrorists are located should be using their own military. Thats a very interesting question. I want to play you what president obama said last night about whether or not he Needs Congress authority. And then, i want to get into this question of whether or not anything he did could be extended. Lets listen to president obama. I have the authority to address the threat from isil. But i believe we are strongest as a nation when the president and Congress Work together. So i welcome congressional support for this effort in order to show the world that americans are united in confronting this danger. Senator, he wasnt saying that he needed the authority from congress. And now, i want to play you what josh earnest, the press secretary said today about why they believe they dont need explicit authority. The president is confident he has the authority he needs to order military action along the lines of the broadened systematic air strikes that he described yesterday. He wants repealed. Under an aumf he believes continues to apply to this terrorist organization that is operating in iraq and syria. So, senator, the aumf hes referring to is the authorization to use military force passed in 2000 after the 9 11 attacks. The initial 9 11 attacks in 2001. If the president can still operate under that authority, whats to stop any president from continuing to use that aumf basically in perpetuity . Well, i think youre going to find many members of congress who believe that the war powers act, which was passed by congress requires the president to seek additional authorization from congress that this is going to be a longterm campaign. So i think we may have some different views on that. Quite frankly, i want to work with this administration, but i want to make it clear that were not going to give authorization for longterm campaign. So well see what authority the president seeks and we will also see how hes using Current Authority because there may be some interest in congress to get involved. Senator, just to go back a little bit, the authorization to use military force, the aumf, the president himself said should probably be repealed. That was the last time that Congress Actually took an explicit vote on the use of force in the socalled quote, unquote, war on terror. That is still in operation. The president himself said it probably should be repealed, its still there. And this administration is using that operation, which was to go after that authorization to go after al qaeda in afghanistan. Thats being used for essentially okay air strikes in syria, which wasnt in the original authorization. So if the president can do that, shouldnt the congress explicitly have to pass something new to essentially check the authority of this and any other president . Well, i think you raise two very important points for congress to take up. First, in 2001, it was never anticipated that the authorization that was given would be still in use, particularly with a new threat that has developed in regards to isil. And number two, whatever congress does take up, its got to be very careful and very surgical to make sure its not used to expand u. S. Operations or to take on military responsibilities in a country that should be doing it itself. So, i think your point is very well taken. And thats why i think congress will need to get engaged. Whether well need to pass legislation if the president s intending to use a 2001 authorization for force, then i expect the congress should get involved and should take a look at this. Well, do you think your colleagues will . Do you think the senate, for instance, will take a vote in which they will explicitly state what they believe the president should be authorized to do in syria. Will that happen . I think weve got to take a look at all the factors here, part of its the use of the military air strikes. Part of it is to train and equip the iraqi soldiers. Part of it is actions in syria. All that has a different role for congress to play. But as far as the basic authorization, to me, the war powers is pretty clear, and the president continues to have a longterm engagement, he should seek clarification for congress. And what would you say to people, sir, who say that congress and not you specifically, but the members of congress broadly in the house and in the senate would rather not be on the record on this. Theyd rather let the president do this on his own so he would take the blame, they could criticism if theyre the republicans from the sidelines, democrats could take credit with him from the sidelines. But because its an election year, the congress doesnt even want to be on the record even though they should. One of the most important responsibilities that i have as a senator is to deal with the issues of putting our soldiers in harms way. We have an absolute responsibility to take up action when it involves the deployment of our troops. And as the president said, United States is much more effective in its Foreign Policy when the administration and Congress Work together. So quite frankly, joy, this is an easy one. If we got if we need to be involved, we have to take action and we cant let the politics of the moment interfere with this country. Well, sir, heres hoping your colleagues are listening. I think thats music to a lot of peoples ears. Lets hope a vote will happen. Thank you very much. All right. And now three things to note this thursday. Oscar pistorius has been cleared of the most serious charge against him, premeditated murder, but lesser charges still pending against the olympic sprinter. Mi pistorius said he thought she was an intruder when he shot her last year. Court resumes tomorrow. Toronto mayor rob ford admitted to the hospital after being diagnosed with a tumor. He went to the doctor yesterday after experiencing severe stomach pains. He returned to work in june after going to rehab for drug and alcohol abuse. And the bill and Melinda Gates foundation is giving 50 million to help fight ebola in west africa. More than 1,500 people have died from the virus. We just learned that kent brantly has donated a unit of bloo