Between the military and the nfl. What the secretary has done, given whats been going on inside the National Football league, is simply asked to better understand our interactions with the National Football league. Our expectations of organizations we work with, are the same we expect of ourselves. Today the white house unveiled a new initiative called its on us to educate young men about Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault. Joe biden thanked one of his young staffers recruited to join the team. Cindy hogan, who nfl aint seen nothing yet. They have no idea what they just bought onto. All this as a new nbc news poll shows more than half of americans are now satisfied are not satisfied, excuse me, with how the nfl has handled the Domestic Violence scandal. Nbcs Anne Thompson is live in new york city where todays press conference will be held. Ann, what do you think were going to hear today . Looks like anns not reporter jonathan, a source in the nfl toelz me we can expect Roger Goodell, he wants to overhaul the personal policy, the personal conduct policy. He wants to make changes and he wants help in making those changes. He wants the help of the Nfl Players Union and the help of outside groups because the commissioners goal is to never see another two weeks like the nfl has seen. What has really hurt the nfl, especially this week, is its indecisiveness in handling both the issue of Domestic Violence and child abuse. We saw that with how the panthers deactivated and then activated and then deactivated greg hardy, convicted of domestic abuse, and how vikings did the same thing with Adrian Peterson whos been indicted for child abuse for disciplining his 4yearold child. That indecision hurt the nfl this week, particularly with its sponsors. And its sponsors got after them. These are family brands of mcdonalds, campbells superintendent and anheuserbusch. Anheuserbusch in particular, a billion dollar sponsor of the nfl, said it was disappointed with how the nfl has handled this situation. You can expect Roger Goodell to address the concerns of the sponsors today, address the concerns of the players and to address the concerns of the fan, particularly women, who make up 45 of the nfls fan base. Jonathan . Anne thompson, thank you. Lets bring in mike wise and shanna thomas. Mike, thank you for being here. Mike, let me start with you. Goodell came out with the partnership, Domestic Violence support lines today and education initiatives. What do you think were going to hear more from goodell today . I think this is a man clearly in crisis mode. He hasnt been seen or heard from since Norah Odonnell last week. And during what many people feel is the worst crisis of confidence in his administration as commissioner. Has been nowhere to be seen. So, i think youll see the rebranding of Roger Goodell in many ways. This is going to be a person that maybe contrite, have misgivings about how we handle especially the ray rice Domestic Violence situation and also as a person whos now decided hes not the top cop anymore. That he needs to surround himself with a quorum of people from different venues, especially people of women who need to be heard from first and foremost in this fight. And i think thats what youre going to see. Roger goodell will try to save his job today while hopefully also doing some good. Talk about how today could be the rebranding of Roger Goodell. And youve called for his resignati resignation. Are you open to anything short of a resignation . Most people dont think goodell should resign. 29 think he should resign, 43 say he shouldnt resign and 29 say hes not sure. What theyre announcing in terms of Domestic Violence programs is great. Theres no question its going to help. Because its providing awareness and direct services. Theres going to be a very dark cloud hanging over the nfl as long as roernlg goodell is in the leadership position he is. Hes proven over the last couple of weeks that hes been handling this case deceptive from the start. There were 50 cases handled even more poorly than the ray rice case, before the ray rice case came up, was revealed and incited this public outcry were seeing. Roger goodell has done nothing since then but responded basically with crisis p. R. And i think whats coming out of it could be great for women particularly. While Roger Goodell is at the helm, he helm,. I wrote a column this week with the suggestion that by ditching a certain teams controversial name with one with one decision, nfl owner dan snyder could reverse some of the commercial and moral arrogance the nfl has put on ample display. Now, mike, you read the column, i know, because you tweeteded it out. Thank you. Any chance the league would get on board with my suggestion . Only because Roger Goodell has been steadfastly backing dan snyder to save his brand. I dont i think its unfortunate. Ray from the National Indian congress is leading to change the Mascot Campaign said it best. Said, all these issues are related. The concussion, the tone deafness when it came to concussions earlier, Domestic Violence issue, failure to act on child abuse, felony charges and remove Adrian Peterson from the equation permanently for a while until this is resolved. All these things are systematically come back to a moral arrogance. That moral arrogance comes i mean, basically breeds through Roger Goodells veins at this moment. And i think that part shes right. As long as hes in charge, there will always be a cloud over his regime and i dont believe hell be able to effectively govern the nfl like he did. The same poll found 86 of fans are still going to watch football, so no matter what. Do you think theres anything, anything that could happen to change that . Unfortunately, its probably the most popular bullet proof media brand in america right now. It says more about the public and our refusal to make sure that our players are sdeenlt human beings before they get on the field. It doesnt forget about addressing anybodys concerns today except Domestic Violence victims. What do you think about that . What could it possibly take to get people to stop watching football . Im not sure thats the goal to get people to stop watching football per se. Football is a loved institution. Its a loved sport. I dont think people want. I think people to want say the nfl take on the root of the cause of this problem, which is domestic abuse. And to see the nfl take on this problem which is, again, not just an nfl problem. Its an american problem. Im sure youve discussed this in the past. One in four women will be will experience Domestic Violence in their lifetimes. The nfl has an opportunity and a responsibility for shedding light on that fact and setting a standard for how we want to be dealing with Domestic Violence in our society. I dont know that that requires stopping watching football entirely. Great discussion. Thank you. Thank you. Stay with msnbc for live coverage of Roger Goodells News Conference coming up at 3 00 eastern. At the united nations, secretary of stale john kerry is holding a Security Council meeting to rally Global Support for the u. S. Strategy against isis. It comes as congress this week gave their seal of approval to training and arming rebels in syria. Up next, well talk with one congressman who voted no, emanuel cleaver. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40, 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. 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Security council where today and next well hell try to woo allies. France conducted first strikes on iraq this morning. With congress gone, having giving president obama the power he wants to arm Syrian Rebels, the white house can turn its full attention to Coalition Building. Secretary kerry said its that sort of Coalition Building that will deter threats of terrorism from other parts of the world. For some people its scary. And there are real chank challenges from tisil that what were seeing now. If we make the right choices and bring countries together to unite around the right policies, it can also be transformative. Moining me is missouri democrat congressman emanuel cleaver. Thank you for being here. Good to be with you, jonathan. You were one of 85 House Democrats to vote against the bill that gave the white house power to arm Syrian Rebels. Why . First of all, we have no intelligence on the ground. We dont know who wants to kill whom by whom. Even by our own information, no way right now of determining whats actually going on on the ground. And so what we just did was to arm some semi bad guys to kill barbarically bad guys to teach the world that bad guys should not kill. So, i think we are spending 500 million rather foolishly that could be spent right here in our country on infrastructure. Look, were going into this rather blindly. Nobody has laid out a clear plan. Your station is already reporting your network is reporting that we dont even know the role of our socalled allies. This could be a big mistake. Now, im not going to spend the next month of october bashing the president. I think we had no good options but i think the best option that he did not want to take, obviously, is to just wait and see whats going to go on instead of entering into another civil war. Congressman, let me ask you this. Were you happy with the level of debate over this issue before congress adjourned . There was no debate. We mixed this in with c. R. , continuing resolution, so we had no opportunity, i dont think, to sit down and or to stand up in the well of the house and actually debate the merits of this issue and receive from the intelligence committee, the up to date information with what was going on. We have not had that kind of debate. This is not about the president. In is about the precedent of congress not assuming its responsibility. Were the ones who have the power to say yea and nay to war. No, im not satisfied at all that the congressman of the United States played its complete role in this. Congressman, let me follow up with you, because there are people who are saying wshlgs you used the term, conversation about, you know, going to war. This is just giving the president the authority to do these air strikes and that the full conversation, the full debate over how far the president can go will be done after the november elections after the lame duck sessions. Do you buy that guarantees . Is that enough for you . No. A lot of politics are woven into this whole wait until after the november elections. And that is, some people dont want to debate it at all. They would simply this be obamas war. I dont think thats the case with me. We ought to have a declaration of war. We ought to vote for war and stop this playing weve been doing since the vietnam war. The gulf resolution, and then we give the war powers act and the president can act so many days without congressional authority. Thats our responsibility. Congressman emanuel cleaver, thank you for joining us. Stewart holiday served as special u. N. For Political Affairs in the bush administration. Hes ceo of meridian house and Steve Clemens is washington add tore at large for the atlantic and an msnbc contributor. Steve, let me read you the comment of one democrat, Peter Defasio of oregon. How fair is that criticism of the white house and plan to fight isis . I think its very fair. I talked to a number of congressmen and four or five senators. Some voted for the plan yesterday evening. Some voted against. Those still feel theres a lot of pieces of the puzzle that havent been explained and theyre very reluctantly grudgingly supporting the white house because they also know the president doesnt want to be doing what hes doing. He has other plans, they have to deal with issues there. Its kind of combined, a very, very uneasy sense that the people are giving the president the support to arm the Syrian Rebels and move forward. I think the broad is, you have a lot of moving pieces. Bashar al assad, whom were hardly discussing anymore. Thats where isis and Free Syrian Army came from and this has ma tas sized and exploded into a different direction. The game board has changed and whos on what side just as the congressman just said are really fundamental pieces of the puzzle thats like a rubicks cube that hasnt been sorted out. Let me play sound from senator rand paul on the senate floor yesterday and get your comments on the other side. Intervention topples the secular dictator. Chaos ensues and radical jihadists emerge. The pattern has been repeated time and time again. Yet what we have here is a failure to understand. A failure to reflect on the outcome of our involvement in arab civil wars. Ambassador, is senator paul right . The u. S. Repeating its errors of the past . Well, the middle east is a complicated environment. We have found ourselves perhaps not understanding the lessons of history. But what were talking about with the Islamic State is a potential direct threat to the United States. I think there was a debate about whether that was the case in iraq originally, but now i think all the nations of this coalition understand this is a threat to iraqis, syria and the rest of the world so i think hes a little off the mark. The headline of the Washington Post reads, rift winds between obama and u. S. Strategy. General says halfheart or tentative efforts or air strikes alone can backfire on us and actually strengthen our foes credibility. We m how would you describe the relationship between the president and the generals over this issue . This reminds me a lot over some of the president s debates over afghanistan, about the size of the troops to be deployed in a surge in afghanistan would be and what the date would be where it was decided they would be there a year and withdrawn. There are tensions between the white house and pentagon. I guess thats sometimes a natural and good thing. In this particular case, the debate i agree with part of what the general says. You may not want to broadcast everything youre doing but if you put american boots on the ground and widen the military footprint of the u. S. Presence in that way, you may as well engender a much larger backlash to the United States. That was the achilles heel of the iraq invasion. So that military impulse to go and kill bad guys can itself generate a deepening of this conflict and spiral this into a different direction. The question should be, where are the saudi boots on the ground, the sunnis that need to spit on isis and disavow this group . That is the missing piece in this debate thats vital, that both answers would be more efficacious. Ambassador, let me follow up. Where are the allies, where are the arab states in this fight . Well, you have the french strike, which appears to be the First Coalition strike. The allies have to be careful in this because just like we dont want american soldiers at risk, we dont want to ignite a shia sunni civil war either. There are a lot of volatile tensions that already exist. I think youre going to see the gulf nations, countries like jordan and turk y stepping up and playin