They have access to any weapons. The training was simulation table top exercises, they were not armed when they were training or got here or they were not armed when they left that mall. And they had been vetted actually before they ever got here by the state department, u. S. Embassy, and the u. S. Military. So they were never considered a serious threat, but they were certainly apparently a flight arriving. All right. J jim miklaszewski, thanks very much. The secret service is considering revafmping its procedures after a fence jump erma it insier made it inside the white house. This man, Omar Gonzalez, made his way inside carrying a a knife with a 3 1 2 inch serrated blade. While fence jumpers are nothing new and the first family were in no danger, Security Experts say the incident may be another example of Management Issues that have dogged the secret service in the past few years. Earlier at the white house, this is how josh earnest characterized president obamas reaction to the breakin. He did indicate as ultimate expect his family lives in the white house. So he is obviously concerned by the stipt that oincident occurr. At the same time, the president continues to have pleat confidence in the professionals at thes s secret service. This isnt the first time weve seen issues with the secret service. Weve seen a car hit the gate of the white house. What is going on . Reporter thats the question the theyre looking into. Weve heard the review that is being carried out is being done with a sense of urgency. But i was here on friday. Ive seen the fence jumpers in my time. Its unprecedented that somebody would run across the lawn, get up the steps and through the front door of the north portico. Lets start with what they have done already. The front door is now locked to the white house and there will be a whole new series of procedures. But theyre reviewing for example why the k9s werent let loose, why the sniper didnt take a shot, would it have been roept. Were there any they say there were no indications he was armed. It turned out he had a knife. They are obviously trying to look could they be carrying something on their body that could be an goexplosive. Weve learned the president was weved multiple times on friday after the incident happened. He and his family had lifted off in marine one for camp david just about ten minutes before this happened. Also updated multiple times over the weekend about the status of the ocean. Foot patrols and surveillance has been beefed up. But they are looking at what wider things can be done. Should tourist ares be kept further away from the white house. Have to go through some sort of more stepped up security screening. Its a tough balance and the president is not going to weigh in on this. He will leave that to the security people. But this is supposed to be the peoples house. This is the symbol of a democracy. It is the home of the leader of the worlds greatest address and in the past, they have rejected some very visible means of keeping this house and the family safer. It will be interesting to see whether they will move even further particularly at this time where there is concerned about stepped up terror and the theft organizations including isis. Chris jansing, thanks very much. Were joined by a former special agent for the secret service. And also former atf special agent. This is a family who has young children, who are living in the white house. The president s motherinlaw and older woman living in the white house. And this is also the president that happens to have the highest number of threats against him. It doesnt seem conceivable to me that the secret service would be i guess you couldnt call it lax, but this does seem to be a very serious breach of protocol. They will look at did might be anybody drop the ball. Where was k9s. Thats the one issue. I think its more likely that they will look at the fact that four minutes prior, we had a hilo on the south grounds. And as a result, you may relocate certain assets. So its very likely that they will see some of these assets splay been maneuvered to a different place to protect the actual president as hes departing. Almost like a perfect storm. But you does this become a budget issue, jim . Dont we have enough budget and enough assets to have sufficient security both to protect the person of the president and to protect the white house at the same time . We do. And i love the secret service. Atf and the secret service had 150 year relationship. Theyre a great agency and i think they will fix this. Thats number one. About but we start to see the lethargic wheels of government. If we were in charge, id have a backhoe out there this morning digging a row across that grass, putting in a 6foot wide thorn bush or some low grade obstacle where this couldnt happen again immediately. Now, they deployed more officers and dogs, but they have to make a sea change. This fence jumpers and even allowing people to be able to jump that whimpy fence . Change the fence. Start to make some real definite changes. Get this fixed. And just in dealing with the secret service protecting president obama, they are extremely professional. Were talking about people who take what they do very seriously. But i want to play you what congressman peter king had to say about white house security. Take a listen. The fact that he wasnt brought down because they didnt think he had a weapon . He could have had a body bomb, he could have had a vest on. He did have a knife. There could be a lot of dom pof assassination plots. This is the most basic type of procedure and how everyone especially in the days of isis and were concerned about terrorist attacks, someone could actually get into the white house being stopped is inexcuse sif. In so were in a conversation about the use of deadly force and weve seen local Police Officers use deadly force against people who are arguably not a threat at all. In a situation like this, you have nonlethal force used. Does peter king have a point that you now maybe have a case of underpolicing in this case . No. Youre accountable for every bullet that leaves your magazine. So if youre going to shoot somebody, you better though with certainty that that person is a threat. They did the right thing not discharging their weapon. They understand stood as soon as he hit that north portico, there are assets that can take them by surprise. So using deadly force was not the right thing to do. Now, stopping him prior to, that would have been the correct thing to do. I want to touch on one thing mr. Cavanaugh said regarding budget. Budget is absolutely 100 an issue. I know from my own personal experience, it does come down to money. What can you afford. So im telling you that is a major, major concern. Budget is always a problem. Which throws is back to congress, peter king. And one last question, jim. Does this mean there might be a lesson that the secret service as much krit sechl as they acmc taking that they could teach something to the local you Law Enforcement . Yes, i think it is a good lesson. All the agents knew the president was not in residence. So that goes into the decision not the to shoot. And also they have dealt with fence jumpers over the years, so they have had a couple hundred in the last ten or 20 years or so, so that should be sort of stopped. You shouldnt really have to deal with that anymore. Here is one guy, no plan, no plot, no ability, and he just is able to jump over the fence because he thinks the atmosphere is crashing todown. So that is weak. I think they will change that. But were in a whole different era with these terrorists around the world. The white house is a magnet for all of this stuff. Youve got to change it fast. Give them the money and lets make the definitive changes and not have committees and focus groups and take months to do it. Just get it fixed. Sounds like it would be nice it if we had a congress that was at work. Thank you you very much. The world gathers in new york city to discuss global issues. Well tell you about the other terrorist groups that are worse that isis. And turning tide after a very poorly received News Conference and devastating espn report about what ravens executives knew about the ray race incident, roger good he will could be losing the confidence of the league owners. 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But we learned with al qaeda you cannot leave this extremist consultism ungoverned spaces to plot whatever they want. Still not everyone is in complete agreement that isis isil poses an immediate threat. The new york sometimes quotes officials who say the focus has, quote, can distortdistorted the picture of terrorism. Joining me now is one of the authors. How big of a threat really is isis isil to the United States . Well, it is it remain to be seen, but i think the question is what is an immediate threat and what is maybe a long term threat. The people weve spoken to said they dont know of any evidence that isis is plotting right the now attacks at the United States on the United States compared to other groups for instance al qaeda offshoots. Isis right now at least is primarily interested in consolidating its territory in iraq, syria, possibly even expanding its territory. And they really are interested in expanding this caliphate that they have described. As opposed to more traditional terror groups like code which were singular focused on attacking the west. So its not that some day they wouldnt become a threat, but in terms of an immediate threat, they dont see the intelligence on back that up. There is a lot of big talk, but is there any evidence that they have the capability to do what al qaeda has done . Any indication that this group has anybody here . Not that ive heard or ive seen. There have been as the secretary said a number of people with american positiassports and eur passports who have gone to fight in syria. But in terms of them returning being i Vice President heard of evidence of that. And earlier we wrote about one person who went to fight for this group al nusra who had returned home in advance of the attack but he didnt attack in the United States. He blew himself up in syria. So it bears investigation and just as we understood things on 9 11, things change over time. So i think its better to try to understand what the ultimate agendas of these groups are. It does seem like some of the things theyredoing is either trying to draw our fighters ands warn against us taking action. Ill read what you wrote. Some caution that military strikes inside the Islamic State could antagonize that group into planning attacks on western targets and even benefit other militant organizations if more modern factions arent ready. Explain that. The question is what are they immediately interested in doing and what might they start doing over time provoked by american and western air campaign in syria and iraq. Weve seen certainly the rhetoric escalate with isis specifically those videos, the beheading videos of the journalists when they were talking about pay back for strikes. So the rhetoric has started to change a bit with isis where theyre saying well come to get you. They werent saying that in the beginning. And so i think well just see whether this is just rhetoric or something that they really then start focusing intently on which is insering people into western countries to try to carry out attacks. Group you y profiled. Yes, this group had been brought up in an Associated Press story. And it said they were specifically again unlike we think isis, specifically focused on attack against the west. And its made up of al qaeda operatives, people drawing across the middle east. And so we wrote about it on sunday and who the american officials think is the leader of the group who the United States has been worried about and concerned about for some time. Really more than a decade. Mentioned by president bush in 2005 and ultimately ended up in syria. And i believe what people get concerned about when we say who we think we know and were sending arm there is. Its all murky, but thanks for shine something light on it. Three things to know. 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