But were killed in a shoot out with police. Israeli Police Identified the suspects as two palestinian cousins. The demolition of their homes was ordered in east jerusalem. Tragically this is not the first loss of life that we have seen in recent months. Too many israelis have died, too many palestinians have died. I think it is important for palestinians and israelis to work together. Joining me now is Martin Fletcher who has long covered the middle east. There is talk that it could be brewing in israel, this is a dim sign i imagine. Thats one way to put it, four rabbis kills in the synagogue, the attackers killed by police. But i dont think so, the violence has been building in the last few weeks has been limited to jerusalem and very close to jerusalem. Its when the violence really spreads throughout the west bank and gaza. That is what the Palestinian Leader is saying. The people trying to make it happen is the hamas leadership in gaza. Theyre calling on palestinians in the west bank to carry out more such operations. Theyre putting fire to the fuel, theyre trying to make it but the Palestinian Leadership in the west bank says they dont want that, theyre cooperating very closely. They have been cooperating very well over the last few months despite the attention. Certainly there are a lot of things going on right now that would indicate that the violence is growing and spreading. A overall uprising by the palestinian population like we saw in 2000 seems unlikely at this point. Do we know any more about the two attackers. As you mentioned theyre two dozens. Their relative was released from israeli jail not too long ago. We know also that it was possibly to destroy their homes. But it is not really a matter of where these two people what drove them. The fact is they come from a deep pool of very angry and frustrated palestinians in the west bank and gaza who see no Real Progress for any alleviation for their live. The question is whether or not theyre in the Peace Process at all that can be started that will give some hope. In the absence of that hope well see more anger, frustration, and violence. And there doesnt seem to much of that going on. Thank you, we appreciate it. Lets go to capitol hill where the fate of the Keystone Pipeline is being voted on. It is meant to deliver oil from canada to the gulf of mexico. The pass sage is anything but certain. It is now up to democrats to determine whether there will be enough yes votes to secure a filibuster proof majority. I brought this bill to the floor knowing in my heart that we have 60 votes. I sure hope we have the courage that supports that. It is just dangerous. It transports the dirtiest oil on the planet. It doesnt allow the kind of review that our affected communities deserve. Kelly odonnell is following the debate on capitol hill, how much support does she have for the support for that bill. So critical for the perception of how she would do in that reelection campaign. She has more than a dozen democrats that will side with her and Many Democrats say they believe this project will ultimately be passed, but some of the opposition is about the fact that the president has not made a decision. Part of it is to speak to the environmental wing of the party, and also remaining questions about letting some League Challenges playo out. Republicans say they will bring it back and pass it in a republican senate. She is down to a matter of hours. She has been twisting arms, working the floor, working the phones. She is still trying to get that last vote. One of the people we were watching closely today is angus king, an independent that quickly works with democrats. He is a no today because he said this is something that the president must make a decision and the congress should not be approving construction projects. There is Different Reasons why people are coming to their votes. Bill cassidy, currently a member of the house, a Senate Candidate that could become a member of the senate, has been the sponsor on the house side. So you heard republicans today referring this to republican cassidys bill. Joy . Intrigue. Kelly odonnell, thank you. Coming up we will separate fact from fiction on what the Keystone Pipeline would really mean for americans. If theyre able to get the bill out of the senate, will president obama follow threw on his promise to veto. What about that potential veto threat . We just heard from josh earnest. The president does not support it, but this is something they have been very clear here they want the process to playout. That means a state department review. We heard from the president a few days ago when he was on his way back here from the g20. He said were looking at the impact on Greenhouse Gases. Again to the point, environmentalists putting a lot of pressure on the president and harry reid said he hoping the president would veto it. They have not used that specific phrase. Well be looking at that, but lets take a quick switch and talk about this top to bottom potential review of hostage policy. This was precipitated by the horror and beheadings of isis. The u. S. Will not rr consider their policy of not paying ransom. They believe that encourages them to kidnap other americans and foreigners. We also know they will take a look at their policies in terms of dealing with those families because there has been heavy criticism about whether or not the administration had somebody, a point person, for example, who would deal with the families and james foleys family said they were told about his death by a journalist in a phone call. There is a few other things that experts say they have to look at. Its not isis taking most of these hostages, its other groups that trade them or sell them, essentially take money from them and isis holds them and beheads them or takes a ransom, so they have to look at how they put pressure or give punishment to the organizations that take these hostages initially. And the companies that are known to directly or indirectly have paid ransom to isis. When i pressed josh on that today, he did not give indication of any development in that area. Over to ferguson now where the grand jury is still meeting to decide whether msnbc is live in ferguson. State of emergency is in effect, how are people reacting to that on the ground . First of all, as we go hour by hour and day by day waiting for this decision by the grand jury, their announcement that theyre in a state of emergency, the National Guard will be deployed in the case of unrest has angered folks that say it is presumptive. As the government hunkers down with their prep riarationprepare creating safe houses and gathering supplies. We also heard there may be changes in the Police Department. The Police Department may be restructured. I spoke with one resident who is a protester for mike brown who is now one of jacksons biggest supporters. He is going door to door trying to get people to sign a petition for jackson to keep his job. You see theyre trying to throw all of the blame on the chief of police, and get the attention off of Darren Wilson. And we want Darryn Wilson prosecuted in jail and they think if they give us the chief of police it will quiet us down some. But thats not enough. We want Darren Wilson prosecuted. A lot is going on. Any day now well figure out if a grand jury made that decision. A lot more waiting to come. Thanks very much. Thank you for having me, joy. Coming up, the true cost of putting need on your table. My exclusive interview with eva longoria. 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So you can celebrate today and feel confident about tomorrow. Chase. So you can. Welcome back. In just a moment debate is expected to resume on the senate floor. President obamas legacy on Climate Change is against his own parties quest the louisiana democrat mary landrew. Her bill took a hit today when independent, angus king of maine said no. Whatever happens tonight, president obama is expected to veto any bill on. Because a section of the pipeline crosses the Canadian Border it has to be approved by the administration. Today john boehner had harsh words for president obama about a potential veto. A Keystone Pipeline veto would send the sipgal that the president has no interest in listening to the American People. It would be the equivalent of calling the person people stupid. We have john nickels who is the washington correspondent. I want to start by playing what senator Mitch Mcconnell had to say about keystone take a listen. Its common sense, its a shovelready jobs project that would help americans find work. It would increase our supply of north American Energy and it would do that with minimal climate impact. You cover the environment, is that true . On the jobs front, it would have several thousand temporary jobs. Long term jobs is just several dozen president the climate aspect, they found minimal contribution to Greenhouse Gas emissions but that was based on the idea that these would be developed anyway and i think that is in question. Yeah, there has been, you know, they didnt use keystone. A instruction project that would had many jobs, but once its built, if its built, youre only talking about 35 jobs. I think that what we have to understand is this is not a jobs issue were talking about. This is a money and politics issue. Some of the Biggest Energy companies in the United States and the world really want to do this. It will make what theyre interested in doing, ways theyre interested in making money, easier. Theyre very passionate about this and they have gotten some politicians on their side. The problem is this is not a Job Creation Initiative as you pointed out. In the long term it does not begin to create the kind of jobs that we could create with Smart Investments and green energy. Its problematic on a lot of levels. It is very unlikely to come to pass. Because even if the senate were to vote for it today, and even if president were to approve it and even if it kept going through all of the barriers, the truth of the matter is this bill that has been put up is expensie exceptie exception exceptionally unlikely. We have a lot of bad political theater that creates the fantasy that someone is working to create jobs or make congress get something done. In creareality it is very unlik that it comes to fruition. Thats a very good point about whether or not it is even possible for it to get done. Lets say it did. People express a concern about oil spills. It can transport 800,000 barrels of oil per day and this is Tar Sands Oil. And a state department, that Mitch Mcconnell sited, they thought it would leak 518 barrels of oil a year. When you talk about the actual history of oil spills, start with transcanada. They had 12 in one year back in 2011. They have not had the greatest history. If you look at a case study about the pipeline, there is a Company Called end bridge in michigan. It spilled about 840,000 barrels of Tar Sands Oil in 2010. The rupture went unnoticed for 17 hours. According to the ntsb there was a break down of safety. The employees performs like keystone cops, no pun intended with keystone. Has anyone studied the potential back on these states . I think a lot of people who live in these states raised those concerns. It crossed the aquafer. It would cross a number of water ways. And you look at the spill from a few years ago, theyre still cleaning that up. The mayflower spill in arkansas from a few years ago is still relevant in that community. There have been Horror Stories in the cities that have seen spills. And a catastrophic spill could be much, much worst. And johnso, it goes without saying that republicans it more than democrats, but i think about the democrats, theyre up to 12 that might be for it, but there is only one democrat in one of these actual states. There are no democrats if we put that map back up of where, the states that keystone would go through, why would they be in favor of something thats not in one of their own states and that b has such clear potential peril for the environment . Many of the democrats that stepped up come from Energy Producing states and theyre folks with longer term commitments to Energy Policy that involves extraction, and may have industries that they want to ultimately trade off with in the future and say i backed keystone, i want you to be with me on something related to my state. That is a political reality of both parties. The important thing to understand here is that if this pipeline was running through urban areas, if it was running near big cities and near waterways where a lot of people lived, there would be a absolute outcry. Because it is going through rural america, there is a skewed debate. For those of us that care about rural america, we should be very concerned. It could do a lot of damage to people that live in some of the most precious parts of the country. Thank you both. Msnbc will have live coverage of the vote starting at 6 00 p. M. Eastern on politics nation. The president prepares for a show down on Legal Authority and illegal immigration. Well look at who would be impacted by this political divide and if it makes any sense for the president to wait. Soft holiday music ] can you help me up . [ snow intensifies ] [ sleighbells ring in the distance ] aleve. All day pain relief with just 2 pills. Get back to being you. 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