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MSNBCW The Reid Report December 1, 2014

Floor later today to speak out about the issues raised by the shooting death of mike brown, by now former soontobe former Police Officer Darren Wilson. In washington, d. C. , protesters blocked traffic. In ferguson right now, the 16member Commission Set up to find solutions after the shooting is meeting today for the firlgs time since the grand jury decision. Joining me now, nbc news correspondent, kristin welker. White house leaders are meeting with old and new. Reporter in addition to meeting with civil rights leaders, president obama is going to meet with his cabinet officials as well as Law Enforcement officials. The theme today, joy, is to try to bridge the gap to enhance understanding and cooperation between Law Enforcement officials and local communities. And the big headline here out of the white house today is that president obama is asking for a 263 Million Investment package, 75 million of which would go toward bodyworn cameras that Law Enforcement officials could wear. The president wants as many as 50,000 Police Officers to be able to use that equipment. The idea behind that is to not only enhance understanding and communication between communities and Police Departments, but also to allow for there to be a record when you do have incidents like the Michael Brown shooting. So there can be a record of what happened instead of a number of differing accounts. Also a part of that aid package that i mentioned, joy, the goal is to expand training and also to expand resources to local Police Departments. Now, youll recall that back in august, president obama ordered a review of surplus military equipment to local Police Departments. That review found that its not a matter of scaling back the equipment, but, rather, making sure the equipment is used properly and making sure that there are proper standards in place. Joy, ill read you a little part of that review. It says, quote, when police lack adequate training, make poor operational choices or improperly use equipment, these programs can facilitate excessive use of force and service highly visible barriers between the communities and the police and the communities they serve. Now, the third headline coming out of the white house today, joy, is that president obama is ordering a task force to review Police Departments across the country. Thats going to be headed up by Philadelphia Police commissioner charles ramsey. President obama expecting that review to be completed within 90 days. We also expect to hear from the president once he finishes all of those meetings today. Joy . Kristin welker at the white house, thank you very much. Now to the latest in ferguson. Lets bring in christopher king, managing editor of st. Louis american. There have been a lot of protests, 108 days worth of protests in ferguson. Obviously, the information coming out of the white house is brand new. Protesters on the ground, have they been more specific in things they to want do done both in ferguson and internationally . There was a meeting where some demands were discussed. I havent decided what they decided to keep in, what they decided to keep out. Theres also been many, many private meetings. Also sorts of political pressure being applied at all points. A few things i know, the role of the special prosecutor in local Police Shootings. I think they say we need special prosecutors. Of course, police reform. Also in st. Louis Municipal Court reform, which is responsible for a lot of the abuse of the poor we saw in the aftermath of this terrible shooting. One other question i have, locally there is a new commission thats been created. Mayor announcing a civilian review board. Thats the mayor of ferguson. Very low confidence any of us place in the mayor of ferguson. I think hes part of history that would be moved aside and i wouldnt worry about what he says is going to happen. And last question, is there any reaction so far we obviously saw a protest spontaneous by members by the way, were looking at some of the protests of nationally there have been calls for people to walk out of school and work. Thats what we were looking at there. Any response to the st. Louis rams members who protested at the game over the week snend. Just the usual divisions. The people that support the protesters, the community of conscious as i call, it are excited, rushing taught buy the jerseys with those numbers on it. The reactionary, white majority, attacking them. The police agent is good for a hot quote, he attacked them. Just the usual divisions just on a bigger screen with the rams involved. Christopher king of the st. Louis american, thank you for being here. Lets go to the Supreme Court now where Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg is back at work following a heart stent procedure last week. The justices are hearing a major case involving social media, particularly sites like facebook. The issue is whether statements that could be considered threats are protected by the First Amendment as free speech. Nbcs Pete Williams is outside the Supreme Court. What can you tell us about this case . This involves a man who started posting things on facebook after his wife let him and took the children. Let me give an example of one of the internet postings he put up, in which he talks about ways he could kill her. He says he could stuff her body in a trunk. He says he could stab her, he could bury her. Thats the kind of thing that the Supreme Court is dealing with. He was convicted. The judge said is whether the test is whether a reasonable person seeing those threats would have considered them threatening, would have put them in fear. But his lawyer told the Supreme Court today, no thats not the right test. The right test, should be whether he intended to cause fear or whether he knew that the messages he was senting out would cause fear. The justices were struggling with this. I dont think they seemed to like either extreme. They were looking for some way in the middle to preserve some speech on the internet without going too far while still giving the government the ability to prosecute when they can show that someone was really intending to cause fear. Pete, i mean, theres existing case law about things like making terrorist threats and threatening people. Does the internet add a special element . There are songs that are extremely violent where people name specific names. What makes the internet different. Reporter yes, undoubtedly the internet is the main character, in spite of the individuals involved in this case. Because on the one hand, the lawyer for mr. Alona said, youve got teenagers who were arrested after they caesar castic things in game rooms how they would shoot up a school. There has to be a reasonable standard applied to which chief Justice John Roberts said the reasonable standard is a reasonable teenager . The other part of the problem is when you put something on facebook, you dont know whos going to read it. They may not know the context. They may not know youve just separated from your wife or you get along well with her. Yes, the internet, social immediate, yeah thats the big issue here. Pete williams at the Supreme Court, thank you very much, sir. Meanwhile, a disturbing story out of georgia where bond has now been denied for a couple charged with false imprisonment. The alleged victim, the mans 13yearold son who was reported missing four years ago. Nbcs Kerry Sanders has the latest from jonesboro, georgia. Reporter safely back in his mothers arms, investigators this morning are trying to piece together the story of what happened to this 13yearold boy, who had been missing for four years. In court sunday the boys father and stepmother Samantha Davis sat in shackles, charged with false imprisonment and Child Cruelty after police found the boy in their house n a hidden room, behind a fake wall, camouflaged with towels. According to authorities, the amazing rescue started when the boy somehow contacted his sister, using a cell phone. She relaid the message to their mother who tipped off authorities where the boy was being held. But when police went to the house, their search came up empty. Officers went, made contact with individuals in the home who deny having any knowledge of who the child was. Reporter it was only after a second call from the mother with more details, that police went back to the house and this time, they found him. Neither the mother nor the boy spoke with reporters. They didnt need to. Wow. Nbcs Kerry Sanders, thank you. We are watching live pictures right now in new york city where protesters have walked out. There was a call from ferguson supporters to walk out of schools, out of workplaces today in solidarity with the ongoing protests over the killing of mike brown. And a grand jurys decision not to indict the officer who killed him, Darren Wilson. So, youre looking now at live pictures of new york city of people who apparently have participated in those protests. Weve seen protests all weekend and oefrt last several weeks, even the last several months of people in solidarity. Coming up, nfl controversy on and off the field. Members of the Union Representing st. Louis police issue a scathing response to five rams players hands up tribute to mike brown, calling for the players to be punished. Well tell you the nfls response. And just days after her husband is reinstated into the nfl, janay rice speaks out for the first time. Find out what she told matt lauer about nfl commissioner Roger Goodell. When the commissioner of the nfl, Roger Goodell, says ray was ambiguous and the nfl says that it was a starkly different sequence of events, is the commissioner lying . I cant say hes telling the truth. You know, i i know for a fact that he told that ray told the honest truth. This is the equivalent of the sugar in one regular soda. And this is one soda a day over an average adult lifetime. But theres a better choice. Drink more brita water. Clean, refreshing, brita. Its happening. Everywhere. People are dropping their pants for underwareness, a cause to support the over 65 Million People who may need the trusted protection of depend underwear. Show off a pair of depend and show them its no big deal. Because hey, its just a different kind of underwear. Join us. Support the cause and get a free sample of depend over the holiday weekend, the nfl became the flash point for two ongoing high profile stories. The ray rice controversy, which well discuss in a minute, and the Ongoing Events in ferguson, missouri, sparked by the Police Shooting death of Michael Brown. On sunday, five members of the st. Louis rams entered their home field for the game against the Oakland Raiders with their hands raised. In the now famous hands up, dont shoot sign of protest. One player, wide receiver kenny britt, also posted this picture on his Instagram Account showing mike browns name and my kids matter written on his wrist tape. In response to what britt has called a show of support for the Ferguson Community, spokesman for the st. Louis Police Officers association issued a strongly worded statement condemning the action and demandsing that the players be disciplined. And for the nfl and team to apologize. Joining me now is dave zire, from sports nation. You were writing about this oeg over the weekend. This recalled for me at least the tom judge Smith John Carlos protest back in 1978, which was deeply unpopular with americans, got people angry but they did it and it was meant to sent a message. What did you think of this protest . Well, i spoke to john carlos on the phone today. One of the things john impressed upon me, first and foremost, his utter solidarity with what the rams players did, but he took great issue with those who said, they should just shut up and play. In john carlos words, theyre asking these players to be like paint on the wall, just to be seen and not heard. But these are human beings. They have children. And if were ever going to stand up to these atrocities, the time is now. The other thing john carlos said, and this certainly gave me a lot of hope, he said, i remember in 1968 telling the media, if you think im a bad man, wait until that next generation. Well, ive been waiting almost 50 years and i feel like that next generations finally here. I should mention, there have been, as the reporter that was on earlier said, there have been some shows of support, too, for these players. Ill give their names. Stedman bailey, tavon austin, kenny britt who seems to be the person who came up with this idea and also posted the instagram. I want to get your response to the response to this, dave, because jeff roorda, a former democratic politician, ran for state senate, lost to republican, hes called himself a friend of Darren Wilson in a previous media interview. This was the response to that protest, part of it, the st. Louis Police Officers association. It is unthinkable, this statement said, that hometown athletes would so publicly perpetrate a narrative that has been disproven over and over again. As the players and their fans sit safely in their dome under the watchful protection of hundreds of slt lot. Louis fin they take to the turf and call an exonerated Police Officer a murderer. The nfl declined to punish those players but what do you make of the statements . Between roorda, jay nixon and mccullough, youve got to love those st. Louis politicians. He said, how dare you call the name of my team racist. What roorda doesnt understand is what masses of people are finding offensive is the fact that Michael Brown is dead and another unarmed black male teenager has an interaction with a Police Officer which ends with one of them dead and a lot of unanswered questions. Thats the thing people find so offensive about this moment. They find mcculloughs actions as a prosecutor offensive. If roorda doesnt realize that, if the police dont realize that, we may have more healing to do than the most pessimistic among us believe. One more piece from that statement because one thing that came up in my social media feeds, was the question of whether or not these players, as employees of the National Football league, have First Amendment rights, which of course as americans they do. This is part of the statement roorda went on to say, i know there are those who will say theyre simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Cops have First Amendment rights, too, and we plan to exercise ours. I demand the nfl and players its not the vie lebt thugs burning down their buildings that buy their products. Is that a boycott . Whenever you talk about First Amendment rights and protests of Police Officers, what they leave out is Police Officers also have constant and everpresent Second Amendment rights, meaning they are the armed part of the united states. And so this idea any time you have anything that even sounds like a threat, that comes from the corners of the police force where people from the police department, they surely know that that has an extra lacquer of intimidation and should be stood up to. Real quick, joy, the social media feed about this protest that i kept getting was also, theyre spreading a false narrative about the case by putting their hands up. Thats a big theme going out right now. And i was looking at the testimony, other people, the whole grand jury, 16 of the 18 witnesses said Michael Brown had his hands up. To me, its all together appropriate they did just that. Its also become a bigger sort of a protest about larger issues of policing. I want to read the nfl statement and ask you about Roger Goodells role in this. We respect and understand the concern of all individuals who have expressed views on this tragic situation, brian mccarthy, vp of communications. What kind of position is the league in at this point . There are so many metastasizing things going on. How would it have looked for the league to turn around and discipline these players . The legal right now has three long sticks spinning plates on them and only two arms. They are losing it. Right now Roger Goodell is in no position to make any sort of controversial statement about anything. I mean, hes basic kaelically hes living in dick cheneys bunker right now. No one has heard from this guy except friday where a federal judge effectively said he wasnt a believable witness in his own case. So, they are not in a place i knew they wouldnt punish the players because the nfl right now, they really are like the groundhog that doesnt want to stick its head above ground. Speaking of Roger Goodell, theres been a lot have criticism over the hand

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