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Allegations laid out in Bob Woodwards book that he lead about, captured in his open recorded words and advanced a theory how to address the pandemic why would you down play a pandemic that is known to disproportionately harm lowincome families and minority communities. Yeah. Well, i didnt down play it. In many ways i upplayed it in terms of action. It would go away without the vaccine, george. But its going to go away a lot faster it would go away without the vaccine . Sure, over a period of time and many deaths and youll develop like a herd mentality its going to be herd developed, and thats going to happen that will all happen herd american tamentality. A lot of people that dont want to wear masks a lot of people that think masks respect good a lot of people waiters. Why blame the waiters today, the rebukes were coming from inside his own government, specifically the head of the centers for Disease Control. This mask, these facemasks, are the most important powerful Public Health tool we have and i will continue to appeal for all americans, all individuals in our country, to embrace these face coverings we have Clear Scientific evidence they work, and they are our best defense i might even go so far as to say this facemask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid than when i take a covid vaccine. At the white house last hour, though, President Trump disputed what dr. Redfield said number one, its not more effective than a vaccine, and i called him about that. Those were the two things i discussed with him and i believe that if you ask him, he would probably say that he didnt understand the question well, since President Trump is such an expert, more so than the head of the nations premiere health agency, he disputed the assertion that a vaccine would not be ready until 2021 of course, all of this follows President Trump last night blaming joe biden for the lack of a nationwide mask mandate and biden slammed President Trumps incoherence. All the president had to offer last night, President Trump, was the same weak inaction, the same lies that we have seen from the very beginning. He still wont accept any responsibility folks, the president s first responsibility is to protect the American People. And he wont thats utterly disqualifying joining me now is dr. Roy, internal medicine sphysician. Dr. Roy, this isnt even a dispute, because theres only one side thats right here, masks. Helpful, beneficial . Vaccine, possible by the end of the year or not . So lets be really clear here, joy. The director for the centers for Disease Control and prevention is absolutely right. Dr. Redfield, like myself and every other person that i know, wears a mask because we have plenty of data to show that this covering your face and your nose your mouth and your nose decreases the transmission of this virus and hes right in saying that masks and physical distancing are the only two measures we have that work and very successfully reduce the transmission of the virus. We have no vaccine its like comparing apples to no apples we dont have a vaccine, so we cant compare it to that and earlier to your point of magical thinking, delusional thinking, its this type of messaging, joy, that is just confusing the public unnecessarily. We know what works its really simple just tell the public to wear a mask and please, by all means, wear a mask yourself in public. By the way, im referring to the president , not you well, i do. I think most people are thinking of others like invading targets and running around without them. This is President Trump saying, lets forget him lets play dr. Redfield today. This will about whether or not there will be a vaccine ready and available, lets say by election day take a listen. I think there will be a vaccine that initially will be available sometime between november and december, but very limited supply and will have to be prioritized in youre asking me when is it going to be generally available to the American Public so we can begin to take advantage of a vaccine to get back to our regular life, i think were probably looking at third late second quarter, Third Quarter, 2021. Second or Third Quarter of 2021 that should be the end of it but its not heres President Trump refuting that i think he made a mistake when he said that. Its just incorrect information. And i called him and he didnt tell me that, and i think he got the message maybe confused maybe it was stated incorrectly. Were ready to go immediately as the vaccine is announced and it could be announced in october, or a little bit after october. That is just not true but he doesnt have to be true for it to work for him politically. Do you worry, as i do, that the next step, part three of this nightmare, is that he goes back and bullies dr. Redfield and makes him change the truth to a lie . So weve seen this pattern before i think its most egregious and most noticeable when it happens to people in science because science is rooted in cold, rigid imperiacism. Weve seen this with the various investigations that have taken place since hes been in office. Theres always a shading of truth to fit his purposes. So it becomes much more distinct, however, when were talking about scientific fact. So if you can call him and then he changes his mind and we get a different kind of report, well, we just kind of stepped into what the soviet union was doing with its scientists where, if you had findings that didnt jibe with comrade stalins understanding of the world, you were sent out to revise those findings until you had something that he could agree with yeah. There is that sort of soviet quality to it, dr. Royp tried te joe biden for there not being a National Mask mandate, when he opposed the mask mandate, and joe biden is just a civilian, he has no power to the point where joe biden had to tweet hes not president. Do you worry that even if one of these Drug Companies comes out with a vaccine, that theyre confident in, that President Trump has so muddied the waters and so made people distrust science and distrust whether science can be bullied, that they wont want it and people will refuse to take it and that no vaccine will be able to be administered because of President Trump . You know, this is not the first time the scientific and medical community has questioned the mental state of the president. I mean, hes seeing things that just make no sense, theyre delusional, not only are they just incorrect, but to the point about his reference to the Scientific Community thats a phrase we use often, which is the beauty of science is that its true, whether you believe in it or not and we, in the medical Public Health Scientific Community, have to stand strong and united, because the reason why joy, youve been speaking to so many people like me on your show is that its life and death here, right . And we know that people of color are vulnerable, are elderly. My own father, who is over 0, who is a survivor of a quintuple bypass, we all on this panel know people directly and indirectly who are affected by this disease and its quite literally life and death. But we already have so much data to show what can protect people. And the fact that this president has known what he has known back in february, that this is a virus thats a killer, he compared it to the plague, and its airborne. And to then not only not mandate masks and physical distancing, but instead hold large indoor gatherings is just nothing short of criminal, joy we in the Scientific Community and in the media have to Work Together to educate the public and protect them, joy. Yeah. One more thing he was incoherent about was policing and Police Reform heres a little clip of that if you look at our police, they do a phenomenal job youll have people joke, make mistakes, and they happen. It happens where they have to make a fast decision and some bad things happen. And you also have bad apples but you have 99 great people. I know the Police Forces very well i dont know what to dowith that, but i know you have a special coming up thats airing i think now on pbs about policing so ill just let you respond yeah. Choke is the wrong word to use we all saw what happened in minneapolis. That was a decision that played out over the course of almost nine minutes and there are lots of systemic factors that you can point to that simply does not have any more basis in fact and the ideas about the masks do indeed. Congratulations on the special let me now turn to somebody who was there last night my next guest stood up to President Trump as she asked a question about health care and whether people with preexisting conditions should remain insured ad they are under the Affordable Care act should preexisting conditions, which obamacare brought into brought to fruition no. Please stop and let me finish my question. Should that be removed within a 36 to 72hour period without my medication i would be dead its not my fault i was born with this disease. Im joined now by elisia black in pennsylvania. First of all, i have to say, when you said stop and let me finish my question, every black woman in america knew you, we all know you now hey, cousin. First of all, when that moment happened, what was going through your mind as you tried to get your question out and President Trump jumped in . Umm, one of my students cutting me off in the middle of a lecture. What i did was not anything like my friends have been calling me all night, i havent even been asleep yet theyve been calling me and weve been talking about it and they said thats exact think what you would do. I did not expect you to do anything except that because respect is reciprocal. And if youre hitting me midstream and coming back at me with a single word, no, you have to wait until i articulate the question in completion before you determine the answer. Did you do you feel that you got a simple answer on what it is he wants yeah did you feel like you got an answer as to what he would do on health care . Because that seems unclear to a lot of us. Did you walk away feeling clear about what he wants to do on health care . Actually, i walked away and when i got outside of constitution hall, i found the first wall to sit down on and broke down and cried in frustration and anger. Because he didnt answer anyones question, let alone mine and he ignored us like we had no value, that like he was just using us as a catalyst to say what he wanted to say about himself as normal, as usual. And to push his own agenda which is misinformation. Disinformation manipulation of language and it was tragic for him to do that, because i really did go there with the with an open mind my problem was, i didnt know if i was going to vote or not it was never a question of will i vote for President Trump or biden. It was a question of, will i vote or not . And why he made up my mind. Jz why is that im a historian i teach literature and history my specialty is slavery. And so i have read about our struggles over the last several hundred years. Thats what is behind me look at what is on my wall this is my life. And so i know the struggles that we have been through and weve already fought and won this war multiple times, to have to fight it and win it again in the 21st century is horrific and im getting old. My disease is wearing me down, and im just tired but once the driver and i were back in the car and he was taking me home, he was explaining to me how he is a fresh citizen from istanbul, how proud he was to be an american, and how excited he was to vote and once he said that to me when i got out of the car and i went in the house, a little bit more frustrated, crying i said how dare i disrespect my ancestors. If hes excited to vote, i have to be excited to vote, too and i have to take the risk and believe in that constitution i just taught my students. Im still teaching my students right now. So i decided, im just going to bite the bullet and vote for biden and pray that for once in the lifetime of black americans, that things will change as they did under the chief court in the 60s and lbj. Because we need drastic, drastic change you know, we cant continue to be abused by people in the street, simply because of the color of our skin. Where we live, where were from, how we speak all of this is inappropriate, because we never did anything to deserve what it is that we get and yet another century has come and we suck it up and were gracious about it. I dont want to be gracious any more i want change and i want it now. Professor elisia black, you have taught us a class tonight and for those of us not familiar with the clodialogue, we are not cousins. Thank you very much. I watch you every night and im so happy for you thank you, thank you. Youre welcome. Thank you i appreciate that. Were back to being cousins again. Thank you, sister. Thank you very much. Eye glad youre going to vote this fall. Up next on the reidout, President Trumps former personal lawyer is calling out his old boss, and warning the rest of us not to underestimate President Trumps desperation as election day approaches. Michael cohen joins me next. 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Dont get mad get e trade and start Trading Commission free today. Guys guys safe drivers save 40 safe drivers save 40 safe drivers save 40 thats safe drivers save 40 . It is, thats safe drivers save 40 . Hes right there. Its him safe drivers do save 40 . Click or call for a quote today. Eve going faster than a closerollercoaster safe drivers do save 40 . Love like yours will surely come my way ahey, aheyhey [music playing] love like yours will surely come my way in an abc news town hall, President Trump must have been advised to show compassion for coronavirus victims, including apparently those who have never been infected with coronavirus she had breast cancer, and it went to her brain, bone and lungs and she passed on the 19th what will you do for our immigration system so we are doing something with immigration that i think is going to be very strong, because we want people to come into our country. People like you and your mother. And that just shows how vicious the covid is, especially when you have another problem, you have a heart problem or another type of problem. Did you have covid you didnt have it, right . No. You didnt have it, your mother well have it taken care of. Its going to get taken care of. Joining me now is michael cohen, President Trumps onetime attorney, author of the new tellall memoir, disloyal, which is going to have a place on the New York Times best teller list. Good to be with you yeah, just hit number one. Im very excited about it. So thank you congratulations that has to be a really good feeling, especially after what you went through especially after what ive gone through, yeah absolutely. Absolutely so let me start with just what we played. Tell me about how President Trumps mind works as you have known him. How long did you know him . Well more than a decade. I worked for him and several years prior to that and of course, when he became president. Absolutely. He went from answering a question, a very heartfelt question that this woman asked about her mom dying of cancer, of breast cancer, and what would he do about immigration. He spent like two seconds on immigration and wept rignt righ covid. What did you take from that . He could nt even stay on message, he went right to covid as if covid was on his mind. Because covid is on his mind. Its the one thing that will probably do him in as far as the election is concerned. It is the one thing hes blundered worse than anybody else possibly could have i mean, you could have done absolutely nothing and accomplished the same thing that the president has accomplished here yeah. Theres also the issue of immigration, which is what he ran on, vilifying people from mexico and saying theyre killers and rapists, et cetera and we know now that he also was employing undocumented immigrants to build trump tower to latin x undocumented immigrants all over the place in his places of business, in his golf clubs did President Trump, when you knew him, exhibit hatred toward immigrants its i wouldnt call it a hatred towards immigrants. Its just a lack of concern. Its a lack of empathy they were ameans to an end for him, and whether or not they were documented or not made no difference to him at all you have to have empathy, you have to have compassion, and you have to care about something other than yourself to think about somebody else. He lacks those capabilities. Yeah. Lets talk look at what he did last night to professor black if that just isnt a demonstration of his lack of empathy, you know, then there are really aspects to understanding Bob Woodwards<\/a> book that he lead about, captured in his open recorded words and advanced a theory how to address the pandemic why would you down play a pandemic that is known to disproportionately harm lowincome families and minority communities. Yeah. Well, i didnt down play it. In many ways i upplayed it in terms of action. It would go away without the vaccine, george. But its going to go away a lot faster it would go away without the vaccine . Sure, over a period of time and many deaths and youll develop like a herd mentality its going to be herd developed, and thats going to happen that will all happen herd american tamentality. A lot of people that dont want to wear masks a lot of people that think masks respect good a lot of people waiters. Why blame the waiters today, the rebukes were coming from inside his own government, specifically the head of the centers for Disease Control<\/a>. This mask, these facemasks, are the most important powerful Public Health<\/a> tool we have and i will continue to appeal for all americans, all individuals in our country, to embrace these face coverings we have Clear Scientific<\/a> evidence they work, and they are our best defense i might even go so far as to say this facemask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid than when i take a covid vaccine. At the white house last hour, though, President Trump<\/a> disputed what dr. Redfield said number one, its not more effective than a vaccine, and i called him about that. Those were the two things i discussed with him and i believe that if you ask him, he would probably say that he didnt understand the question well, since President Trump<\/a> is such an expert, more so than the head of the nations premiere health agency, he disputed the assertion that a vaccine would not be ready until 2021 of course, all of this follows President Trump<\/a> last night blaming joe biden for the lack of a nationwide mask mandate and biden slammed President Trump<\/a>s incoherence. All the president had to offer last night, President Trump<\/a>, was the same weak inaction, the same lies that we have seen from the very beginning. He still wont accept any responsibility folks, the president s first responsibility is to protect the American People<\/a>. And he wont thats utterly disqualifying joining me now is dr. Roy, internal medicine sphysician. Dr. Roy, this isnt even a dispute, because theres only one side thats right here, masks. Helpful, beneficial . Vaccine, possible by the end of the year or not . So lets be really clear here, joy. The director for the centers for Disease Control<\/a> and prevention is absolutely right. Dr. Redfield, like myself and every other person that i know, wears a mask because we have plenty of data to show that this covering your face and your nose your mouth and your nose decreases the transmission of this virus and hes right in saying that masks and physical distancing are the only two measures we have that work and very successfully reduce the transmission of the virus. We have no vaccine its like comparing apples to no apples we dont have a vaccine, so we cant compare it to that and earlier to your point of magical thinking, delusional thinking, its this type of messaging, joy, that is just confusing the public unnecessarily. We know what works its really simple just tell the public to wear a mask and please, by all means, wear a mask yourself in public. By the way, im referring to the president , not you well, i do. I think most people are thinking of others like invading targets and running around without them. This is President Trump<\/a> saying, lets forget him lets play dr. Redfield today. This will about whether or not there will be a vaccine ready and available, lets say by election day take a listen. I think there will be a vaccine that initially will be available sometime between november and december, but very limited supply and will have to be prioritized in youre asking me when is it going to be generally available to the American Public<\/a> so we can begin to take advantage of a vaccine to get back to our regular life, i think were probably looking at third late second quarter, Third Quarter<\/a>, 2021. Second or Third Quarter<\/a> of 2021 that should be the end of it but its not heres President Trump<\/a> refuting that i think he made a mistake when he said that. Its just incorrect information. And i called him and he didnt tell me that, and i think he got the message maybe confused maybe it was stated incorrectly. Were ready to go immediately as the vaccine is announced and it could be announced in october, or a little bit after october. That is just not true but he doesnt have to be true for it to work for him politically. Do you worry, as i do, that the next step, part three of this nightmare, is that he goes back and bullies dr. Redfield and makes him change the truth to a lie . So weve seen this pattern before i think its most egregious and most noticeable when it happens to people in science because science is rooted in cold, rigid imperiacism. Weve seen this with the various investigations that have taken place since hes been in office. Theres always a shading of truth to fit his purposes. So it becomes much more distinct, however, when were talking about scientific fact. So if you can call him and then he changes his mind and we get a different kind of report, well, we just kind of stepped into what the soviet union was doing with its scientists where, if you had findings that didnt jibe with comrade stalins understanding of the world, you were sent out to revise those findings until you had something that he could agree with yeah. There is that sort of soviet quality to it, dr. Royp tried te joe biden for there not being a National Mask<\/a> mandate, when he opposed the mask mandate, and joe biden is just a civilian, he has no power to the point where joe biden had to tweet hes not president. Do you worry that even if one of these Drug Companies<\/a> comes out with a vaccine, that theyre confident in, that President Trump<\/a> has so muddied the waters and so made people distrust science and distrust whether science can be bullied, that they wont want it and people will refuse to take it and that no vaccine will be able to be administered because of President Trump<\/a> . You know, this is not the first time the scientific and medical community has questioned the mental state of the president. I mean, hes seeing things that just make no sense, theyre delusional, not only are they just incorrect, but to the point about his reference to the Scientific Community<\/a> thats a phrase we use often, which is the beauty of science is that its true, whether you believe in it or not and we, in the medical Public Health<\/a> Scientific Community<\/a>, have to stand strong and united, because the reason why joy, youve been speaking to so many people like me on your show is that its life and death here, right . And we know that people of color are vulnerable, are elderly. My own father, who is over 0, who is a survivor of a quintuple bypass, we all on this panel know people directly and indirectly who are affected by this disease and its quite literally life and death. But we already have so much data to show what can protect people. And the fact that this president has known what he has known back in february, that this is a virus thats a killer, he compared it to the plague, and its airborne. And to then not only not mandate masks and physical distancing, but instead hold large indoor gatherings is just nothing short of criminal, joy we in the Scientific Community<\/a> and in the media have to Work Together<\/a> to educate the public and protect them, joy. Yeah. One more thing he was incoherent about was policing and Police Reform<\/a> heres a little clip of that if you look at our police, they do a phenomenal job youll have people joke, make mistakes, and they happen. It happens where they have to make a fast decision and some bad things happen. And you also have bad apples but you have 99 great people. I know the Police Forces<\/a> very well i dont know what to dowith that, but i know you have a special coming up thats airing i think now on pbs about policing so ill just let you respond yeah. Choke is the wrong word to use we all saw what happened in minneapolis. That was a decision that played out over the course of almost nine minutes and there are lots of systemic factors that you can point to that simply does not have any more basis in fact and the ideas about the masks do indeed. Congratulations on the special let me now turn to somebody who was there last night my next guest stood up to President Trump<\/a> as she asked a question about health care and whether people with preexisting conditions should remain insured ad they are under the Affordable Care<\/a> act should preexisting conditions, which obamacare brought into brought to fruition no. Please stop and let me finish my question. Should that be removed within a 36 to 72hour period without my medication i would be dead its not my fault i was born with this disease. Im joined now by elisia black in pennsylvania. First of all, i have to say, when you said stop and let me finish my question, every black woman in america knew you, we all know you now hey, cousin. First of all, when that moment happened, what was going through your mind as you tried to get your question out and President Trump<\/a> jumped in . Umm, one of my students cutting me off in the middle of a lecture. What i did was not anything like my friends have been calling me all night, i havent even been asleep yet theyve been calling me and weve been talking about it and they said thats exact think what you would do. I did not expect you to do anything except that because respect is reciprocal. And if youre hitting me midstream and coming back at me with a single word, no, you have to wait until i articulate the question in completion before you determine the answer. Did you do you feel that you got a simple answer on what it is he wants yeah did you feel like you got an answer as to what he would do on health care . Because that seems unclear to a lot of us. Did you walk away feeling clear about what he wants to do on health care . Actually, i walked away and when i got outside of constitution hall, i found the first wall to sit down on and broke down and cried in frustration and anger. Because he didnt answer anyones question, let alone mine and he ignored us like we had no value, that like he was just using us as a catalyst to say what he wanted to say about himself as normal, as usual. And to push his own agenda which is misinformation. Disinformation manipulation of language and it was tragic for him to do that, because i really did go there with the with an open mind my problem was, i didnt know if i was going to vote or not it was never a question of will i vote for President Trump<\/a> or biden. It was a question of, will i vote or not . And why he made up my mind. Jz why is that im a historian i teach literature and history my specialty is slavery. And so i have read about our struggles over the last several hundred years. Thats what is behind me look at what is on my wall this is my life. And so i know the struggles that we have been through and weve already fought and won this war multiple times, to have to fight it and win it again in the 21st century is horrific and im getting old. My disease is wearing me down, and im just tired but once the driver and i were back in the car and he was taking me home, he was explaining to me how he is a fresh citizen from istanbul, how proud he was to be an american, and how excited he was to vote and once he said that to me when i got out of the car and i went in the house, a little bit more frustrated, crying i said how dare i disrespect my ancestors. If hes excited to vote, i have to be excited to vote, too and i have to take the risk and believe in that constitution i just taught my students. Im still teaching my students right now. So i decided, im just going to bite the bullet and vote for biden and pray that for once in the lifetime of black americans, that things will change as they did under the chief court in the 60s and lbj. Because we need drastic, drastic change you know, we cant continue to be abused by people in the street, simply because of the color of our skin. Where we live, where were from, how we speak all of this is inappropriate, because we never did anything to deserve what it is that we get and yet another century has come and we suck it up and were gracious about it. I dont want to be gracious any more i want change and i want it now. Professor elisia black, you have taught us a class tonight and for those of us not familiar with the clodialogue, we are not cousins. Thank you very much. I watch you every night and im so happy for you thank you, thank you. Youre welcome. Thank you i appreciate that. Were back to being cousins again. Thank you, sister. Thank you very much. Eye glad youre going to vote this fall. Up next on the reidout, President Trump<\/a>s former personal lawyer is calling out his old boss, and warning the rest of us not to underestimate President Trump<\/a>s desperation as election day approaches. Michael cohen joins me next. Plus, misinformation is running rampant these days and our tweeter in chief is not just adding fuel to the fire. Hes leading the charge. The reidout continues after this still your best friend. And now your copilot. Still a father. But now a friend. Still an electric car. Just more electrifying. Still a night out. But everything fits in. Still hard work. Just a little easier. Still a legend. Just more legendary. Chevrolet. Making lifes journey, just better. A lot goes through your mind. With fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. Thats the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management. You should be mad your neighbor always wants to hang out. And you should be mad your smart fridge is unnecessarily complicated. Make ice. Making ice. But youre not mad because you have e trade which isnt complicated. Their tools make trading quicker and simpler so you can take on the markets with confidence. Dont get mad get e trade and start Trading Commission<\/a> free today. Guys guys safe drivers save 40 safe drivers save 40 safe drivers save 40 thats safe drivers save 40 . It is, thats safe drivers save 40 . Hes right there. Its him safe drivers do save 40 . Click or call for a quote today. Eve going faster than a closerollercoaster safe drivers do save 40 . Love like yours will surely come my way ahey, aheyhey [music playing] love like yours will surely come my way in an abc news town hall, President Trump<\/a> must have been advised to show compassion for coronavirus victims, including apparently those who have never been infected with coronavirus she had breast cancer, and it went to her brain, bone and lungs and she passed on the 19th what will you do for our immigration system so we are doing something with immigration that i think is going to be very strong, because we want people to come into our country. People like you and your mother. And that just shows how vicious the covid is, especially when you have another problem, you have a heart problem or another type of problem. Did you have covid you didnt have it, right . No. You didnt have it, your mother well have it taken care of. Its going to get taken care of. Joining me now is michael cohen, President Trump<\/a>s onetime attorney, author of the new tellall memoir, disloyal, which is going to have a place on the New York Times<\/a> best teller list. Good to be with you yeah, just hit number one. Im very excited about it. So thank you congratulations that has to be a really good feeling, especially after what you went through especially after what ive gone through, yeah absolutely. Absolutely so let me start with just what we played. Tell me about how President Trump<\/a>s mind works as you have known him. How long did you know him . Well more than a decade. I worked for him and several years prior to that and of course, when he became president. Absolutely. He went from answering a question, a very heartfelt question that this woman asked about her mom dying of cancer, of breast cancer, and what would he do about immigration. He spent like two seconds on immigration and wept rignt righ covid. What did you take from that . He could nt even stay on message, he went right to covid as if covid was on his mind. Because covid is on his mind. Its the one thing that will probably do him in as far as the election is concerned. It is the one thing hes blundered worse than anybody else possibly could have i mean, you could have done absolutely nothing and accomplished the same thing that the president has accomplished here yeah. Theres also the issue of immigration, which is what he ran on, vilifying people from mexico and saying theyre killers and rapists, et cetera and we know now that he also was employing undocumented immigrants to build trump tower to latin x undocumented immigrants all over the place in his places of business, in his golf clubs did President Trump<\/a>, when you knew him, exhibit hatred toward immigrants its i wouldnt call it a hatred towards immigrants. Its just a lack of concern. Its a lack of empathy they were ameans to an end for him, and whether or not they were documented or not made no difference to him at all you have to have empathy, you have to have compassion, and you have to care about something other than yourself to think about somebody else. He lacks those capabilities. Yeah. Lets talk look at what he did last night to professor black if that just isnt a demonstration of his lack of empathy, you know, then there are really aspects to understanding President Trump<\/a>s mentality and his mindset when you are talking about empathy, which they desperately told him he has to start showing, because its really making his numbers in the polls go down a lot first of all, its not news that President Trump<\/a> lacks empathy in general. And thats for anyone. Myself included. Right . And the second, its also not news that President Trump<\/a> demeans people of color on a routine basis, right however, the third part, and this is the most interesting, last night, what President Trump<\/a> exhibit exhibited with professor black is more than just a lack of empathy. He exhibited contempt for her because shes a woman of color and he does this often, as well. So if you look at his body language, he appeared annoyed that here there is this black woman, who is complaining about all sorts of preexisting conditions, asking him about health care, and in the back of his mind he knows that there is a zero chance that hes a supporter and is going to be voting for him and so this is the response that you got. Exactly the way that look on television is exactly whats going on in his mind sad. You write in your book, and this is about specifically his attitudes on race. You write and you said this before when you testified before congress so it seems like this is just a consistent thing is it specifically black people or people of color in general . I think its people in general, but its definitely apart, as it relates to people of color, to black people. You know, what really brought the black issue to prominence, of course, is the fact that you have barack obama, right who became president of the United States<\/a>, is clearly much more intelligent than he is. Hes certainly a much better or r orator and hes universally liked and the world. One of the things that drove President Trump<\/a> crazy is when obama was in germany and received the Nobel Peace Prize<\/a> you would think that somebody stole something from him but no, its the fact that obamas black, and that he is smarter than him, and hes a better speaker and more revered. Is it envy . Does he envy barack obama, in your view . I think so. I mean, it certainly appears so. If you envy something and you cant admit to the fact you envy them, you hate them, right yeah. Yeah michael cohen, please stick around for us. Were going to take a big break. One of the Big Questions<\/a> is will President Trump<\/a> face prison if he leaves Office Michael<\/a> cohen wrote about that in his new book. Thats next. Stay with us when the world gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. With fidelity wealth management, your dedicated adviser can give you straightforward advice and tailored recommendations. Thats the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management. And a high risk for fracture, osteoporosis now might not be the best time to ask yourself, are my bones strong . Life is full of make or break moments. Thats why its so important to help reduce your risk of fracture with prolia\u00ae. Only prolia\u00ae is proven to help strengthen and protect bones from fracture with 1 shot every 6 months. 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Its easy to believe that President Trump<\/a>s thirst for reelection is about the pursuit for the type of power that his comrade kim enjoys maybe its about something much more immediate four more years of dodging prosecution and staying out of prison for his crimes. Michael cohen is back with me. Before i get to the idea of President Trump<\/a> and crime, what is behind, in your view, Donald Trumps<\/a> adoration for people like kim jongun and vladamir putin . And all of the others its all about power for him its autocratic power. Its being a dictator, being a king thats what he wants he doesnt see being president of the United States<\/a> as being president for all people and that he is working for the people he sees it the other way around. That hes doing a favor to all americans, and that americans should be working for him. I mean, he really believes that he can create the United States<\/a> into a monarchy, and that he would be its ruler because on several occasions, he used to talk about putins insane wealth, that vladamir putin is the single richest man in the world by a multiple, because he owns 25 of all of russia and that look at the power that putin yields he doesnt have to run for election and when he did, all right, it was a landslide. I dont think anybody voted against him. He always used to say, theres an old saying it doesnt matter who you vote for, all that matters is who is counting the vote these are all the things that create an autocrat it creates a dictator that first your suppress peoples First Amendment<\/a> rights like he and attorney general bill barr did to me by remanding me back to prison for not wanting to sign over my constitutional rights, and then you spring in the military, like he has wanted to do now you blame, like for example, you have lou dejoy playing with the Postal Service<\/a> so that those people who vote for biden harris, those ballots will end up disappearing. He is legitimately setting himself up to be an autocrat that goes to your next question, why. And yes, he is petrified he is 100 petrified that there is going to be a slew of litigation against him brought on by multiple state attorney generals, including new york, as well as the cy vance case, as well as other states that are interested in looking at the various different actions that the president has taken prepresidency and as president. So i do think he is scared you write which leads to the question, michael, of what would he do to stay in power and out of prison . Give us the worst Case Scenario<\/a> of what you think he would do . So President Trump<\/a> is all about winning, and he has no intention of giving up power, which is why i said before the House Oversight<\/a> committee. Lets remember, were talking 18 plus months ago. What i gave to the American People<\/a>, and it was an enormous number of people that were watching, what i gave to the American People<\/a> was a preview of this horror movie entitled the donald trump presidency. And in order to avoid a, you know, a sequel, right, which would be the horror film of 2020, people really do have to vote him out but thats not going to be easy, because the first thing hes going to claim is that the election was rigged, and hes going to the day of the election, hes going to declare that hes the winner, and even for the next couple of weeks, as the ballots are all being counted, hes going to claim theyre fake, and hes going to use attorney general bill barr to invalidate all of those, and hes going to do Everything Possible<\/a> in order to ensure that he remains president for another four years but then its not just four more years. The second that that happens, hes already joking, and i tell this many times, President Trump<\/a> doesnt know what it is to tell a joke, and he doesnt understand what a joke is. When he says, how about trump 12 more years, hes looking to set himself up as an autocrat in this country he has no care, he legitimately he doesnt care about the constitution of the United States<\/a>. He believes that hes above everything but he cant do that alone. You went along with him for a long time. Why do people do it . Why do these republicans go along with him, do you think because were stupid. You know, we were a bunch of sycophants hes very much like a cult leader when youre in his good grace, you believe that you have this enormous amount of power, which you do, and he somehow manages to convince you to use that power for bad. I mean, look at some of the things i talk about in the book in terms of feeding his ego and fixing polls or creating ndas in order to silence women with whom he has an affair the man doesnt know what it is to take responsibility for his own dirty deeds. Everybody else like myself are required to do that. And then you take people with illustrious careers like a bill barr and others who have worked in congress and worked for the people of this country in a legitimate fashion, whether you agree with their politics or not, and now theyre just throwing their careers away for what for President Trump<\/a>s warmth as a cult leader . I try to tell everybody in the end of the book, now you have all the information that you need in order to understand who donald trump is. And whether or not you want him as your president for the next four years my hope is that the book, you know, gets people to open up their eyes and to see him for who he is. Hes a conman, hes a racist. Hes hes a fraud yeah. Well, michael cohen, you certainly woke up. We appreciate you coming forward and the book is disloyal, available now. It is going to debut at number one on the New York Times<\/a> best seller list. Michael, thank you so much appreciate your time meanwhile, coming up, President Trump<\/a> is dialing up his Disinformation Campaign<\/a> against joe biden retweeting a vile accusation against the former vice president. Well be right back. Dont go anywhere. Its Grilled Cheese<\/a> time. Yeah, its time for Grilled Cheese<\/a>. After we make Grilled Cheese<\/a>, then were eating Grilled Cheese<\/a>. Because its time. Yeah. Time for Grilled Cheese<\/a>. bbut its even nicer knowing atthat if this happens. Ice it is to save on your auto policy. Yeah. Or this. Or even this. Weve seen and covered it. So, get a quote today. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum on day one well implement the National Strategy<\/a> ive been laying out since march. Well develop and deploy rapid tests with results available immediately. Well make the medical supplies and protective equipment that our country needs. Well make them here in america. 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Then theres the Pro Trump Group<\/a> employing teenagers as part of a troll farm where they post false information about the coronavirus and election and if that isnt bad enough, the qanon conspiracy theory, well, now its spreading around the world. Its been egged on by the pandemic, with people spending more time at home, dooms scrolling than in the before times. You know, when you look up from your phone and you realize you spent the last few hours in zoom scrolling. Qanon was last year labeled a potential domestic Terror Threat<\/a> by the fbi there have been bizarre conspiracy theorys forever but whats new is theres never been a president of the United States<\/a> involved in publicly promoting one. And President Trump<\/a> is doing more than just winking and fodding at qanon, but called qanon followers people that love our country and played into their hands, retweeting a follower who referred to biden as pedobiden. There is zero reason to say that about joe biden. 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This was supposed to land as a category 1 it landed just a couple miles over this direction, and it came in as a category 2 with winds up to 105 miles an hour, pounding us, pounding us all night. We thought it would be early night. It ended up being this morning about 6 00 a. M. , and it just crept its way north from here, and northeast, dumping tons of rain so you said more than a Million People<\/a> affected, i think it might be more than that. 500,000 people are without power, and until late this afternoon, they couldnt even get the power trucking out there to start fixing things up. So now we have seen police, were going to see the power trucks coming out here lots of people without power, because that rain came down for so long, it loosened the soil, allowed more trees to be toppled. It was not the big wind event that some storms are, but it was slow storms are, but it was slow and rainy and big wind in the end. Finally tonight people along the Southern Coast<\/a> here and parts of mississippi are starting to rest and recollect and find out whats been damaged. Joy . Yeah, absolutely. Having lived in florida for 14 years, i can tell you that calm doesnt tell you anything about what happened before those slow moving ones are just absolutely devastating thank you so much. Keep up the good work, my friend be safe out there. Up next, shocking allegations about doctors performing unnecessary surgeries at ice detention facilities. Well be right back. Nonvalvular afib can mean a lifetime of blood thinners. And if youre troubled by falls and bleeds, worry follows you everywhere. Over 100,000 people have left blood thinners behind with watchman. Its a onetime, minimally invasive procedure that reduces stroke risk and bleeding worryfor life. Watchman. Its one time. For a lifetime. Were all finding ways to keep moving. But how do we make sure the direction were headed is forward . 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All im aware of is working there the ladies would put in to see the gynecologist for whatever reason that they were wanting to be seen for and they were having hysterectomies they would come back and question i didnt have an answer. That was a nurse in immigrations and customs in urban county georgia dawn and four lawyers are saying that immigrant women have told them theyre being sent to a gynecologist who performed unnecessary procedures, including himself reck tomys on them a lawyer for the doctor in question vehemently denies the claims an ice official says it will be fully investigating but that they dispute the allegation that detainees are used for experimental medical procedures. They claim two have been performed since 2018 Lasalle Corrections<\/a> refuted the allegations as well writing in a statement to nbc, they have a strict zero tolerance policy and takes all allegations of such mistreatment seriously they called on the Inspector General<\/a> to investigate the claims and for more im joined by jacob who spoke to dawn about her claims he is the author of separated inside an american tragedy. It is shocking the allegations when those of us who are reading them, jacob, it is interesting to me that the statement refuting this went right to there is no expermitation going on because thats not what was being alleged. Or is it no. It was not what was being alleged, joy obviously the first thing we have to say is these are horrific allegations if they are proven to be true. I think its important here to go step by step to talk about what we know and what we dont know is as important at this point. We have the whistleblower complaint from dawn wooten she was specific insofar as she said women were coming to her. But not specific as far as naming names while there are other women that came forward, they were unnamed. We did speak with four different lawyers who had represented either current or former clients within irwin two said their clients had had hysterectomies and others undergone invasive procedures without their consent or one were asked to have it and did not ultimately end up having it. There is a way to get to the bottom of this number one, obviously is here from detainees inside this facility essentially ice would be and we have asked for receipts, what are essentially receipts for these type of procedures that this doctor would have gone through this and so far ice has not provided those to us, joy and we continue to ask for them. Just to be clear, you have tried to speak with the doctor as well and look for a statement. Has he responded no. In fact, i called today again. Julia called yesterday and was hung up on i called today and was literally hung up three times in a row within the course of two or three minutes. Obviously the lawyer has spoken out, but the doctor has not been willing to go on the record. The doctor could easily obviously refute any of these allegations, but he hasnt made himself available to do so at this point. And some of these allegations include the nurse who was very brave to come forward. Lets be clear she came clear face, name, voice, everything. She came forward and made these allegations that includes she heard people call the doctor a uterus collector that she says she was demoted from a 40 hour workweek after insisting she wear a mask in the facility that women signed consent forms but that they didnt know what they were consenting to and that she says a number of detainees made these allegations she claimed one detain knee had the wrong ovary removed and she could hear the doctor acknowledge the mistake was made who are the women where are the women coming from in this facility do you have a sense of who these women are . From all over the world theyre english speakers, spanish speakers i think what the nurses complaint really gets at is obviously these allegations, if proven true, are uniquely heinous. But she detailed a complaint about medical conditions generally and access to medical care specifically with coronavirus. And i mean i think this gets to a larger issue, which is this will be ajdjudicated by the department of homeland security. Dhs says they will do their own independent investigation of this what is happening with the oversight in ice facilities when you have covid running rampid throughout these facility where is the nurse is alleging lack of ppe. And were seeing this in other facilitie facilities, joy, all across the country. And that is the bottom line. This is a systemic failure of medical care absolutely. Jacob, thanks for staying on top of it. Really appreciate it your work tomorrow night actress and about i havetist john fonda will be here all in with chris hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in. This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against covid than when i take a covid vaccine. 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