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MSNBCW The ReidOut January 19, 2021

Blocked off. D. C. So much on edge, they are vetting the National Guard themselves to make sure they dont pose a threat. The unprecedented security comes after the siege on january 6th. We are learning disturbing details about what exactly went on. The Associated Press and the Washington Post report that trump allies and washington insiders were behind the socalled stop the steal rally that preceded the capitol hill riot. A shocking video from the new yorker shows rioters forcing their way into the capitol and Senate Chamber looking specifically for House Speaker nancy pelosi. Knock knock, were here. Where the [bleep] are they . Where are they . While were here, might as well set up a government. The video also depicts Trump Supporters taunting the police and attempting to justify their behavior by saying they were just listening to trump. There are millions of us. It is an arlgt other rioters used to defend themselves. Here is a texas realtor in an interview with a cbs affiliate in dallas, fort worth. I thought i was following my president , i thought i was following what we were called to do. He asked us to fly there, to be there. I was doing what he asked us to do. And it is not just trump whose support the people have, in the new yorker video rioters justify their actions claiming ted cruz would support them. Cruz would want us to do it. I think were good. When asked for comment, cruzs spokesperson didnt exactly directly address the Trump Supporters mentioning his name, said senator cruz repeatedly said the attack is reprehensible and criminals that carried out the attack should be prosecuted. Whether from left or right, the violent criminals should go to jail for a very long time. Joining me, my friend and colleague, ali velshi, host of msnbcs velshi, i never miss it every weekend. Ali, talk about what youre seeing. I was there earlier today, i have never seen anything like it. I was at the 08 inaugural, lots of security, first black president inaugurated, this is much more intense. What are you seeing. Ive never seen anything like this in america. As soon as the bus goes by, theres the capitol behind us. Cant get closer than i am. Right up to the tape. And it keeps changing through the course of the day. Intersections with new intersections blocked off. Thats a secured section behind me. There is new seven foot fence, razor wire on top of the fence. Security, capitol police, secret service, buses, another one passing by now that are moving personnel around the city. The buses, this one is empty, it dropped people off. Theres a real sense they tightened this out. Theyre expanding the perimeter further and further from the capitol, three or four hundred blocks you cant get to now. The bottom line, there were supposed to be demonstrations yesterday that didnt materialize, supposed to be demonstrations tomorrow, there are no permits. Couple of permits for a couple of random demonstrations, and wednesday is the day theyre trying to stop. That part seems to have succeeded. Were not getting crowds here. Now the concern is whether anybody on the other side of the tank or other side of the perimeter fences and the other side of razor wire poses a threat. Officials says theres no direct intelligence that suggests they do, but youve seen arrests of Police Officers, involvement possibly by capitol police, we have also had a Police Officer in virginia who was an off duty National Guard member. The fbi is taking it upon themselves to check background checks on National Guard people. Joy, i have to say i am puzzled it hasnt been done before. I guess we didnt know so many people have very public overwhelming relationships to some white supremacist groups and far right extremist groups. Thats where the energy is now. They hardened the perimeter, now theyre trying to figure out if anyone inside is a threat. Joy . It is remarkable. I remember seeing a military display like that before. I think for a lot of americans, theyre not used to seeing that when people that are secured are whites and conservatives. I think for people it is stark. Looks like a war zone. Stay safe, my friend. Thank you for great reporting. Really appreciate you. Thanks. I am joined by congresswoman madeline dean of pennsylvania, one of nine house impeachment managers, and john brennan, former cia director. Jump to you quickly, director brennan. This is unusual. It does look like iraq. What do you make of given your career and what youve seen in your career the fact that we have to secure the capitol from our own citizens. Im curious how you feel about that. Well, as you said, joy, this is something that i and other National Security colleagues for many years would see overseas in various war torn countries and other countries struggling along the democratic path. I never thought we would have to go to such lengths to try to protect our capitol and leaders from insurrection on the part of so many individuals who responded unfortunately to the call of donald trump and other individuals in the government and congress who have called upon them to try to undermine our democratic processes, specifically the election of joseph biden. Therefore, i think the steps being taken are very, very important, very prudent, we need to make sure all measures are undertaken to ensure the safety and security of those who are gathering wednesday to welcome the new president of the United States. Before i get the congresswoman in, when you saw the incursion, sir, what you saw, it did look like an Eastern European capitol falling, looked like sort of the end stage something. Do you believe, how close do you think the lawmakers came to being really harmed or maybe being kidnappings or having someone killed . Well, i think it was only because of the heroic actions of some capitol Police Officers and the secret service and others to try to get individuals out of harms way. As we watch footage of individuals running rampant in chambers of the house and senate and came very close to members of congress, who knows what the individuals might have decided to do if they were able to get their hands on members of congress. It is appalling. It is something that should trouble and deeply disturb all americans. Hopefully well never again see a repetition of this very, very unfortunate event. You know, congresswoman, you were one of the people victimized, looking for people that do what you do for a living, members of congress. It sends chills through my bones and blood listening to them scream wheres nancy. It appears the people really did expect that Speaker Pelosi would be on the other side of that door when they were smashing through the glass and one of the rioters was shot. On the other side of the door were members of congress. You think about how close people like yourself came. When you hear somebody like Lindsey Graham sending a letter to Chuck Schumer essentially demanding that impeachment be cancelled and then look at this footage, he says the senate should vote to dismiss article of impeachment, once it is received in the senate, we will be delaying indefinitely if not forever the healing of this great facial if we do otherwise. Being a victim yourself, what do you make of it when he writes that . Joy, thank you for inviting me tonight, very much appreciate it. It is an honor to be with john brennan. Thank you for your service to our country. Let me talk about how we got here. A deadly virus spread across this nation and it is a virus of lies. Thats where we are. So im ashamed for Lindsey Graham. I am shocked, i guess i shouldnt be, that he learned nothing, that it is the president who incited this mob attack, this insurrection against a joint session of congress. Lets all remember something. This was house and senate, this was not any ordinary session day where one was in and the other wasnt. It was house and senate. It was also his own Vice President. And this mob came and came to assassinate nancy pelosi, they came to hang the Vice President of the United States. They hunted down members of congress and of course they also hunted for members of the press. I was up in the gallery with your own colleagues. It was a terrifying day. Lets not forget how we got here. It is from the infection of lies. Let me play for you one of your fellow Democratic Congress members, steve cohen of tennessee, saying he saw names who he saw giving a tour, not saying the people were necessarily involved in the insurrection riot, but take a listen to him. Taking a group of people for a tour sometime after the third she had a large group with her. [ inaudible ] might have had a large number of people coming to be with her on this historic occasion, wanting to give them the opportunity to have a tour. It was pretty clear that her team is the team. Shes not on the home team. She was with the visitors. She is not on the home team, she was with the visitors. He is speaking of colorado representative lauren boebert. Do you feel safe around people like her and Margery Taylor green that are members of the qanon cult . Do you feel safe around them . I wont speculate at all on that, i did not see any of it. Obviously the investigations will reveal a lot. What im focused on, you know i have the honor to be named among the impeachment managers, im focused on behavior of the threat, the constitutional violation of his oaths. Think of the week were in, strange rhetorical setting. It was four years ago this week that the president of the United States swore his oath of office to preserve, protect, defend the constitution of the United States. What we have seen is a president fail to do that in historically dangerous ways. Yet we also have this wednesday a new president taking that same oath of office. Where i am, i have the solemn duty to be among the nine impeachment managers with jamie raskin as our lead and we will go forward in the senate to say this president must be held accountable. Im so mindful that today is Martin Luther king day. I was a little girl when Martin Luther king lived and died and was assassinated. I used to teach writing. I never let a semester go by probably a week go by without teaching some of his beautiful wise words. So i call upon members of the house and of course members of the senate most importantly to remember his words. The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in times of comfort and convenience but where he stands in times of challenge and controversy. Contrast that with the march on washington in 1963. What were people there marching for . Economic justice, civil rights, Voting Rights. What were the people, mob, insurrection coming for a few weeks ago . They were coming for the narcissistic power grab of a single man. What a contrast. Lets live up to Martin Luther kings ideals and his beautiful words. Very eloquently said. Want to play the person that led the last impeachment, congressman adam schiff who was eloquent as well in his closing of the first impeachment of donald trump. Here he is talking about what he thinks should happen when trump is no longer in office. Then i have a question for you, mr. Brennan. Theres no circumstance in which this president should get another intelligence briefing, not now, not in the future. I dont think he can be trusted with it now and in the future he certainly cant be trusted. And mr. Brennan, former Deputy Director of National Security sue gordon said the same, my recommendation as 30 plus year veteran of the Intelligence Community is not to provide briefings after january 20 which is solely the new president s prerogative. He can mitigate one aspect of the risk posed by donald trump, private citizen. He plans to use the power of the presidency to give himself a party before he is gone. Are you concerned if he gets Intelligence Briefings, all of that will be for sale . Do you believe he should be cut off from access to Intelligence Briefings when he is no longer president , regardless when he is convicted. I certainly do, joy. I dont think he was ever to be trusted with this nations secrets and intelligence, i see no earthly reason he should continue to receive any type of Intelligence Briefings after he leaves the white house wednesday. The secret service can ensure that any security related matters are going to be brought to his attention, but i would be very concerned about his continued access to intelligence because he has not used it while he was in office, he disrespected it and members of the Intelligence Community, and who knows what he might do with that information. I think very clearly is somebody out for his own good, his own objectives. Having additional intelligence made available to him would be very foolish and inconsistent with our National Security requirements. Thank you both. Really appreciate your time. Happy mlk day. Please be safe. Up next on the reidout, president elect biden lays out an ambitious agenda, including undoing trumps most destructive policies. And trump is freeing his cronies. Will they hand the keys to the qanon caucus. And calling black votes fraud lengths tweeting their favorite quotes that they dont even begin to understand. Back with more of the reidout after this. 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Meanwhile, were seeing a different but predictable use of taxpayer money by twice impeached one term current president who will not be attending his successors inauguration, choose to go depart for florida. It leaves the chief usher to greet the new first family, not before throwing himself a sendoff at joint base andrews, ellen joy the pageantry that those like kim jongun demand, it may include color guard, red carpet, 21 gun salute, fly over by fighter jets all on your dime. Youre welcome, taxpayers. Trump can depart on air force one, a plane that loses that designation the moment biden takes the oath. Then and only then will the horrific deadly reality show that sought to violently destroy our democracy finally fade to black. Joining me, sher lynn iefl from the defense and education fund. I dont know if it is just me. In a sense i know donald trump is going to film his big departure to use it for some marketing purpose down the road, almost like do it, man, just go away. Theres so much work to do that i feel like it doesnt matter if he and melania have tea with the bidens. I dont know if im alone. Do you feel like the urgency is just go, however you need to go, lets get on with the work. Yeah, joy, im not at all interested in the ceremony and pretense that this is normal. There has been no peaceful transfer of power, january 6th with that, and in any case, wouldnt want trump to be maskless around the president elect and Vice President elect and first lady, so really honestly, i dont see the up side of pretending this is an important thing to happen. Moreover, so much work to be done. Youre my caribbean american sister. You understand all i want them to do is have a bottle of detol and clean out the white house. Theres a lot joe biden wants to get on with in terms of his first day. Rejoining the paris agreement, extending, sorry, ending the muslim ban. Extending restrictions on eviction and foreclosures, extend the pause on student loan payments. Those are listed in the first things. Do you think there should be a sixth thing, meaning getting the john lewis Voting Rights act passed . Feels like a short window to get a lot done. Protecting the vote feels urgent after the insurgency. It is critically important. We are a comic family. There are actually two bills. Hr 1 which is the for the people act and hr 4, john lewis act. Were looking at both of those. They need to move. Frankly, i think hr one is the br

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