Both friday and yesterday. They declined to answer questions whether the president has lung damage or pneumonia. Apparently he might be discharged from the hospital as early as tomorrow. All of this comes just one month before the election. Tonight, well break down the latest polls. Yes, there are a lot of them. Well try to explain how we make sense of what the polls mean. Meanwhile, Vice President mike pence and his wife, karen, tested negative again today. Theyve been tested every single day since the president was diagnosed. He and senator Kamala Harris are still planning to debate this wednesday night. Well discuss that with a debate coach who has won a number of national championships. Also well check in on the Biden Campaigns plans for this final month before election day and congressman ro khanna shares his thoughts on when a Coronavirus Relief package will come, if ever. Let us begin with the president s health and the challenges of knowing exactly how hes doing. If youre a bit confused by it all, youre not alone. Weve heard a lot in the last 48 hours. And, frankly, its been hard to know just what to believe. As President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have both tested positive for coronavirus. The president has mild symptoms. He continues to be not only in good spirits but very energetic. The president , out of an abundance of caution is going to be heading to Walter Reed Medical Center. We have not heard anything from a president who usually is extraordinarily communicative. This historic moment is defined by what we dont know. Nbc news has learned trump has a lowgrade fever. He does not require supplemental oxygen and has completed his first dose of remdesivir. A single 8 gram dose of regenerons experimental polyclone polyclonal antibody. Has he ever been on supplement supplemental oxygen . Right now he is not on i know you however the timeline is getting to be more and more of a mess here. 72 hours into the diagnosis now. If one does the math, that would put it back to wednesday morning. The white house was actually quick to correct, clarifying that the president is on, quote, day three of his illness not a full 72 hours. The white house travel pool saying the president s vitals over the last 24 hours were concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical. Yesterday we were real concerned with that. He had a fever and blood oxygen level that dropped rapidly. Over the course of his illness, the president has experienced two episodes of transient drops in oxygen saturation. Last night his doctors said he didnt receive any supplemental oxygen on saturday. Now we know he did receive that on friday. Whats the latest on the president s condition and who is telling us the latest on the president s condition . Were still missing a lot of basic information. Lets kick off this hour with nbc political Reporter Josh Lederman live now outside walter reed in bethesda, maryland. Josh, first of all, that motor aid that came through, im sure that created quite a styrene though the president tweeted in the video that he posted that he was going to do it about a minute before he apparently left the hospital. Reporter thats right, joshua. A lot of his supporters here had not had a chance to see that video in the time between it was released and the president s motorcade came out of the hospital and drove down Rockville Pike just behind me past throngs of President Trumps supporters in an unexpected joy ride by the president , who is currently suffering from coronavirus and is symptomatic, which we know from all of our doctors and medical experts is the time when someone is extremely contagious. The president traveled in his president ial vehicle with the windows sealed up, meaning he was in the vehicle with drivers from the secret service. They were Wearing Masks during the period of time when we could see the president briefly through the window, but this is raising profound questions tonight about whether the white house has any real commitment to taking the steps that they have said they are going to take to make sure that the coronavirus does not continue to spread, that they do not put more people at risk. Its not like this isnt something that weve already seen play out. Multiple people in and around the white house now have contracted coronavirus, so much so that the d. C. Government has said that rose garden event a week ago, where many of the attendees have now come down with coronavirus constitutes the Biggest Community spread that washington, d. C. Has had of coronavirus in months. Thank you, josh. Thats nbcs josh lederman, joining us from bethesda, maryland, outside walter reed. Well check back in with you later in you are next hour. Dr. Patel, nbc contributor and former obama health director. What are your thoughts on that motorcade that went past the crowd . Its cringe worthy exactly for the points that have been mentioned already. Its literally an extension of, you know, probably one of the most dangerous environments you could be in inside the hospital. Remember its not an average suv that the president is driving as part of the motorcade. Thats a pretty fortified driving unit that, in an ironic way, mimics those negative pressurization ventilation rooms in a hospital. It blows my mind, to be honest, because those people, those secret Service Agents, and i couldnt see exactly who else was there, but those Service Agents, who are Wearing Masks, thats not enough protection. And that just concerns me for their health. It concerns me that this is still a president and a white house that is using an extension of a very serious illness and motorcade ride as part of like pr and marketing. It seems like were seeing this recurring theme of trying to make things sound better. You heard that from dr. Conley not just today but yesterday as well about updates of the nt president s decision. Something that was said on american voices regarding one of the medications that the president is being treated with. Watch. When we put patients on highdose stroisd like that, we monitor them very closely. Theres a host of side effects, including impact on their Mental Health and decision making. You can see delirium or psychosis. You are generally not yourself. There comes a time when patients on it very specific treatment regimen maybe shouldnt be making decisions about what they have capacity to do. Shes referring to a medication dexamethazone. What do you make of her comment, with the clear understanding that none of us has reliable information about the president s Mental Health state so were not going to try to diagnose the president tonight, but tell us about dexamethazone and what shes referring to here. Absolutely. Its a very common medication. This is clearly dexamethazone is a steroid, the doses of which has been studied this drug has been studied and shown to be effective in the treatment of covid19 patients, but very clearly through the evidence that we have for patients who have either been on mechanical ventilation, on intubation or have been on oxygen, dependent on oxygen and or have been in the hospital for longer than seven days. And weve already heard, and we dont have all the pieces we need to understand, but we heard the president was on oxygen. We also have to understand that there must have been a progression in his illness which caused the doctors to put him on dexamethazone. Commonly used steroid. I described it the other day for a patient that had an allergic reaction but at a much lower dose. The doses that the president is receiving are higher. The director is directly referencing that on those doses on any dose but on high doses especially, theres a much higher likelihood of side effects and side effects that can occur with dexamethazone include depression, psychosis, suppression of the immune system, weight gain and predisposition for high blood sugars or Something Like diabetes. Quickly before i let you go, weve gotten a few more answers from the president s medical team. What is the biggest lingering question for you in terms of how the president is doing . Incredible questions that remain. Number one, what exactly are the president s viral loads . How much virus is in his body . Theyre drawing blood, looking at what level of infectious virus he has right now. Are those levels rising or declining . Thats important. It els us where he is in the course of illness. Number two, what are the results of those pulmonary scans that we know theyve done . Has there been evidence of damage to his lungs, which is incredibly common in covid19, even in healthy patients that are not hospitalized. Three, the next phase, this critical phase of the hospitalization, even if hes discharged back to the white house residence, this inflammatory phase that can get aggressive and result in your body going into a multisystem, inflammatory state. You can tell that by looking at certain lab markers and we would really need to know what those are. I do think that those will be critical pieces of information for taking care of the president Going Forward and for the American Public to understand, is he on the recovery trajectory or is this still a critical watch and wait period, which is where i believe he is at . Dr. Kavita patel, always good to see you. Thank you for starting us off tonight. Transparency has been an issue with updates on the president s health. Today his physician acknowledged the criticism. I was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team, the president , the course of illness has had. I didnt want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction. And in doing so, it came off that were trying to hide something, which wasnt necessarily true. So here i have it. Does the white house have a point when it comes to remaining optimistic about the president s health . Is it an issue of National Security . Nbc National Security and justice correspondent ken dilanian joining us now. Good evening. Good evening, joshua. I would like to get your opinion on the National Security implications of this, regarding that motorcade we just saw some video. We spoke to one of the pool reporters and said of that motorcade, quote, appropriate precautions were taken in the execution of this movement to protect the president and all those supporting it, including ppe, personal protective equipment. The movement was cleared by the medical team as safe to do, unquote. He did not answer questions about whether the driveby happened at the president s request, whether the president met with anyone in person or why the pool reporters were not notified and called back to cover this driveby. These all raise so many more National Security questions than we had already raised. This feels like the kind of thing that needs to be buttoned up oh so tight lly, because the are so many things that could go sideways. Youre not kidding, joshua. In tackling this whole National Security question, i think it bears remembering just having donald trump as president is a threat to the National Security of the United States and its not just democrats im talking about. Im talking about his former defense secretary, jim mattis and former National Security adviser, john bolton. He doesnt read his intelligence briefings, doesnt understand americas role in the world, the role of nato. Thats the backdrop. Now we have a president suffering from a lifethreatening illness who may, as you say, be on drugs that render him not of sound mind and body. We have this thing called the 25th amendment that has been used by two other president s in our history, Ronald Reagan when she was shot, and george w. Bush, when he had a colonoscopy, basic procedure where he was under anesthesia for a few hours, he transferred power to dick cheney. Why thats not been discussed in terms of Donald Trumps treatment right now, temporarily transitioning power to Vice President pence is beyond me. He seems to be fine in the videos were watching, seems to be mentally sound in those videos. But any time the president of the United States, the commander in chief, the man who has the nuclear football, the ability to rain down destruction on other nations is suffering from a lifethreatening illness, thats my concern when adversaries would try to take advantage. Any number of adversaries from russia, china, iran, north korea, who may well seize this moment to try to do something and we have a president who is under treatment in the hospital now and a Vice President who is not in charge. Its a pretty worrisome situation. Ken, is it safe to assume there are provisions being taken to ensure the continuity of control in the Administrative Branch despite what may happen to President Trump . There are measures being taken, right . There are a continuity of plans always being examined. 9 11 injected a new life into them. Of course, the fact that mike pence has repeatedly tested negative, that takes a lot of the strain off of the continuity of government plans. The real concern becomes what if the president and Vice President are incapacitated and we have to Start Talking about secession act of 1947 and nancy pelosi, and some people think that law is unconstitutional. The Intelligence Community and military chain of command, absolutely thats on autopilot. If theres a threat to the nation, the president has to make a decision about how to respond. He has to be in a position to make that decision and if he cant, the Vice President should be in that position. We dont know to what extent donald trump is and will be in the weeks ahead able to do that, josh joshua. Thats concerning. You said president nancy pelosi, behind that would be speaker of the house, then the pro temp, then the secretary of state, secretary of defense and on from there. Thats right. Thank you so much. Weve heard a lot as ken mentioned about the 25th amendment just in case covid19 incapacitates the president or worse. What else does the law say about the transfer of power . Well get to that in a minute. Also President Trumps covid19 diagnosis is making the Biden Campaign change its plans. That is next. S plans. 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Meanwhile, Vice President mike pence is ramping up Campaign Appearances in arizona. Hes also gearing up for wednesdays debate against senator Kamala Harris held in salt lake city. Organizationsers have made some changes to the format for safety reasons. Senator harris and Vice President pence will sit 12 feet apart. Wall street journal poll puts joe biden 14 Percentage Points ahead of the president. Im wondering if we heard anything from the Biden Campaign in reaction to this campaign. Have we heard anything from the campaign yet . We havent, joshua. Although i will say we just did receive news from nbcs Peter Alexander putting out a note that the first lady herself, theres a note saying the reason she hasnt visited her husband at walter reed is because she didnt want to put those secret Service Ag