Very wealthy ukrainian. Are you sure they did that . Are you sure they gave it to ukraine . Well, thats what the word is. Thats what the word is. Plus, new comments from the intelligence and Judiciary Committees ahead of the house vote to impeach President Trump this week. Up with me is a. Scott bolden, white collar defense attorney and former chair of the national bar association. David corn, Washington Bureau chief for mother jones and msnbc contributor. Matt lopez, for business insider. And dana, columnist for the Washington Post writing the impeachment diary for the post these past few weeks. We expect the house of representatives to vote on those two articles of impeachment. Ahead of that, there is politics at play. Nbc news learned that congressman jeff van drew, one of two democratic lawmakers is expected to leave the Democratic Party. Impeachment is one reason. Another is polling. Internal polls showed he was highly unlikely to win reelection as a democrat. The Washington Post shows that he met with President Trump on friday at the white house. He gave the congressman his blessing. He seemed surprised in a retweet last night. The other democrat who opposed the inquiry is Colin Peterson of minnesota. A spokesman tells my colleagues he is Still Deciding if he will be a yea or nay this week. Lets discuss the curious ace of the monk man from southern part of new jersey. What do you make of this and how does this change the political arguments as we move to wednesday . I dont think it changes the argument much at all. I mean, here is a guy who was facing very likely defeat in a democratic primary. Essentially trying to save his seat, to save his political soul. But sacrificed whatever principle he may have. I dont even with assurances from President Trump, its not clear how he gets through a republican primary. This is a guy who has voted for the entire democratic agenda so far. And even if he is able to in the shortterm, he will surely not be accepted by the republicans in the long term without a wholesale conversion. I mean, i think its a little bit unfortunate for the democrats there in essence behaving like republicans and imposing purity tests and drumming people out if theyre not toeing the party line. That got republicans into the mess theyre in right now. And thats why there are so few republicans in democratic seats. They all just lost their seats. Hopefully democrats will not follow that same path. Matt lopez, lets talk about what this means for the press. A potential conversion. The congressman went to kiss the ring of the president. Hes faining surprise. As so many before him have come to kiss the ring. I think nancy pelosi knows how to count. It reminds me of that parable in the body, the little lost lamb. You find the one lamb. Or the woman who loses one coin and she goes to find the one coin. Nancy is not going to find the one coin. She knows how to count votes. Go on, kiss the ring, humiliate yourself. Donald trumps friends do generally make out well. He never betrays them. So have fun. Good luck. You see the visual there . How do you start that conversation in the oval office . This democrat on your knees. Listen, he walks in, mr. President , they exchange pleasantries. How do you start that conversation when the ultimate end is will you endorse me if i make this move . It wont have an affect on the impeachment . You have giant hands, sir. I enjoyed my stay at the trump hotel. If you dont say that, nothing will happen. One vote out of 435 votes. I agree with dana, i dont think it makes any different in politics. I dont think he was drummed out. He is choosing to go. As you refer to, people who sign up with trump in the end dont tend to do too well. He should have a conversation with paul manafort, roger stone, michael cohen. How many republicans now are retiring rather than going through another election . Dozens. He should talk to those people. Dana go ahead here, scott. Theres Something Else going on here. Sure. In my brief history of this life of mine, when you have these conversions, when you switch parties for political survival, they tend not to work. If you look at arlen spectrsp. You represent this district or what have you, hes in no mans land. He has three republican challengers who have been life long republicans, as dana said. He has to find a place. I dont know if he has a place on the democratic side. Maybe he should convert to the independent. He becomes the man of the hour for just an hour. You wrote the impeachment diary the last few weeks. Probably too much time. Too much time. But who are you watching here . I mentioned eight mod rats on the fence. Who is going to be voting for this and who is not going to be . They are adamant theyre not whipping votes ahead of this vote on wednesday. No. Thats as it should be. Van drew situation probably says to the other moderates, if you think youre going to yeah, its a tough vote. If you think you will save your hide by voting for impeachment, maybe you will get a primary challenge. But at the very least, the democratic activist that you need to be out knocking on doors for you will not be interested. Setting aside the morality of the thing as a sheer political calculation they are saying, im going to take a hit either way. I might as well just follow my conscience. And i expect the half dozen were talking about, not a lot of their consciences would dictate they would like to defend donald trump. You have a piece in mother jones, theres not a lot of breath being put toward wednesday. Is that conversation done now . As they advance from the committee to the house floor for the full vote, be it from the Mueller Report, those who havent testified yet because of all the liam wranglingswranglinn the water . I think as part of the democratic strategy, its done with. They have decided to go with with a narrow, targeted impeachment. I was telling you earlier to misquote Donald Rumsfeld you go to war with the impeachment you have. Because they didnt spend the earlier part of the year i think fully investigating or, more importantly, conveying to the public, the hearings. They counted too much on mueller himself and the report and the promise of revived Russian Investigation never came into being. Just a few two months ago, danas fine newspaper, the Washington Post reported that trump, when he met with russian officials in may of 2017 in the oval office, said he was unconcerned with the russian attack. Unconcerned. To me that in itself would be an Impeachable Offense if confirmed. Telling a foreign adversary, i dont care that you attacked us. A lot of things that could have been impeachable that members of congress and individuals talked about. But they didnt do it in a systematic way. So now they are left with the ukraine scandal, which i believe is justifiable. But there are other ways they could have gone. Nanette, what does it tell you about what will happen when it moves to the house floor or the senate, the way the markups in hearings were conducted. Absurd to 11. Starting at 11. And Lindsey Graham will keep turning it up and up and up. I am going to take a lot of antacids. I want to know the senate, will they come in wearing maga hats for the trial . We have a bottle of trump vodka, trump water. He is saying i have already made up my mind. They all have to take an oath saying they will be impartial. I know democrats say trump is guilty. But i think you need to go through the courtesy of the constitution of saying i support trump, i like him, i play golf with him, but i will try to be impartial as i consider the evidence. And theyre not even bothering to do that. Mcconnell of course has joined the trump defense. I look forward to mitt romneys eventual speech about how what the president did is wrong. After the trial concludes. We can all stand in the corner and face the wall for a few days. And then go back to being president. He said it on sean hannity and to reporters after that. What do you make of what he said about this trial and the pretense of any sort of fairness now gone . Well, it is gone. They dont believe there has to be fairness or impartiality. Even though the oath, they know they have to take it as the jury on this thing. It is about partisanship. They are beating their chests about how its not going to be impartial pause they have such disdain for the numbers, for the impeachment articles. The other thing that is interesting about the articles is there are only two impeachment articles because the third one that you could have put in there are the obstruction of Justice Charges under the Mueller Report. That was decided the democrats decided not to do that for one reason. There may have been others, but there is one reason. That is nancy pelosi, which she has to do for the last year or two, protect her moderate majority members in swing districts, if you will. So they did not want to add Mueller Report or obstruction of justice, the 15 or 17 instances. But she has the votes for the impeachment. She will put it on the senate and say we have done our jobs. All right. We will see what happens. Appreciate your time on this sunday, as always. Still ahead on up, the 2020 candidate taking on the dnc with the help of eight of his competitors. First a oneoff surveillance error or systemic flaw, the debate over fisa from our friends at meet the press in the can the countyto count project. Do we owe ukraine money . Were we gifting ukraine money . Were we lending ukraine money . Who gives money without some kind of i dont want to call it quid pro quo but some kind of, here, but, hey, while im giving you this, i heard about a problem back then. 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We go the extra mile to bring your holidays home. We found that investigators failed to meet their basic obligations of especially suring that the fisa applications were scrupulously accurate. We identified significant inaccuracy and omissions. Seven in the first and a total of 17 by the final renewal application. This is up. Im david gura. I want to take a look at that are report by Michael Horowitz. It highlights serious issues with the way the fbi surveilled carter page, Something Senate republicans have seized on. Gop lawmakers used a hearing to demand the fisa court be reform. Democrats are skeptical, including ron wyden, a privacy advocate. Why after years of blocking bipartisan reforms are Senior Republicans suddenly interested in it . If they actually care about these abuses, they will stop stonewalling and join forces with us working on badly needed reforms. Matt miller is an msnbc contributor. Let me ask you about the broad takeaway. We heard from Michael Horowitz at the top. My sense is there is a bar for the applications. Its a low bar. Fbi met them. If you want to reform that, thats up to congress to do. The ball is in congresss court. What is your sense of appetite for that in light of what you heard this week during the hearing and what ron wyden and others have been saying now . Other issues are at play. First is the issue that Mike Horowitz uncovered with serious mistakes that went into the preparation of this for a warrant for carter page. And i think there is an open question whether that was a onefaceoff or a systemic problem at the fbi. We dont know the answer to that. Horowitz said he will conduct an audit. When we see the results we will know if there needs to be continued reforms to that piece of fisa pertaining to warrants. It has not been about reforming the warranted activity under fisa. It has been a separate program where the fbi is able to get the emails or access to phone calls of americans without using a warrant. It is called section 702. That is a separate topic and really a separate debate than what happened to carter page where the fbi did go get a warrant. I have to say it has been ironic watching the Republican Party the last three years of investigations into trump and some of his associates rediscover Civil Liberties reform and justice reform. You saw it not just with carter page but paul manafort, michael cohen, roger stone when he was arrested early in the morning. Law enforcement techniques that have been used for years against defendants have been controversial. Those were different than what was uncovered in this report but it is worth noting. David, where do we go from here . Michael horowitz wants to conduct this audit. Durham, u. S. Attorney, working on whatever he will produce at the end, his analysis of these matters as well. What does that look like . What kind of change do you think we will see . It is not targeted on the fisa mistakes that were made. And its you know, i can answer the question. I know why republicans are focusing on the fisa violations this time. Because they dont want to talk about the other part of the report, which is the fbi was fully, fully, fully justified in opening the treasurerussia investigation in july. It had nothing to do with the steele dossier. It came about through legitimate reasons. There were more contacts and contact points between the Trump Campaign and russia while russia was attacking the United States. They dont want to talk about that because the central elements of the scandal is that russia attacked. It had an bacteria on the electi impact on the election. It helped trump. They never wanted to face that. That is something they have not fully conveyed. Its all in the report. And i think the durham investigation is supposed to come out and challenge that because thats not the finding that bill barr wants. He wants it to be that the fbi investigation was illegitimate. Barr is trying to undermine his own department by sicking durham on the fbi because he didnt like the findings of michael holmes. They went to durham and durham could not challenge the findings of the horowitz report. He did put out a statement afterwards. It seemed he challenged it. It is probably on very narrow grounds and not what barr wants. I will accept that from the amendment. Let me tell you what we are not talking about that we ought to be talking about. As a former prosecutor, the police and others, fbi, submit for warrants all the time to judges. Not fisa court but federal judges and state judges. And the judges and the courts have to rely unilaterally on these applications. It is not like there is a due process at this point, right . Now, mistakes are made all the time. The only reason youre hearing about these 15 or 17 mistakes that the horowitz figured out is because the light has been shined on them, right . Its not a perfect process. But if you look at the mistakes that were made, these were made by fbi either lawyers or Law Enforcement people working. And so the challenge of reforming fisa court, you may have that other bucket that says about transparency. But what you really need to do is that these fbi individuals who made these mistakes need to be retrained on an annual basis if you will. They made mistakes. It wasnt politically motivated. They just made mistakes. They need more supervisors, maybe an independent review. They need to be trained on what they need matt miller, i will put up a tweet from the president about christopher wray. I dont know what report he was reading but it sure wasnt the one given to me. With that kind of attitude he will never be able to fix the fbi, which is badly broken despite having some of the greatest men and women working there. A variation on a theme we have heard from the president before. But do a little psycho analysis if you would. What is he thinking as he reads a tweet like that and faces the predicament. Checking his 401 k . Im sure hes not surprised. The president expects everyone that works in Law Enforcement, independent Law Enforcement where you are supposed to carry out your duties without fear or favor and political bias, he wants them to only be loyal to him. Thats what he has gone from the attorney general. He wanted that all along throughout his administration. He finally got it with bill barr. He is very disa pointed and frustrated. Chris wray needs to keep doing his job, keep protecting the men and women from the fbi. Thats tough when you have the president and the attorney general attacking him. Its a dangerous place for him to be. The president is right about one thing. He didnt read the report. He asked what he was looking at. Wray was looking at his 15year appointment when he got that tweet. Versus barr who serves at the pleasure quickly here, david. Donald trump is running a pretty corrupt regime. If youre now working in the fbi and youre tasked to do anything for the Justice Department and you need a fisa warrant, youre going to go through that knowing bill barr is going to come after you if you try to do anything involving trump or his political cronies. They are killing that prospect. Matt miller, thank you very much. As always. A counterimpeachment narrative. Trade is a part of that. We will dive into the president s most consequential win this week, progress on the new nafta. Did democrats give too much too soon . O soo