To the Sunflower State to run for senate. Susan del percio is with me, francesca chambers covers the white house and odessa is with us this morning and bill sternberg, usa today editor. Many americans think the country is heading in the wrong i dont understand the direction. Question. These are data from the latest the. Roger stone, are you going to poll from nbc news and the wall pardon him, sir . Am i going to pardon him . Street journal. That sentiment has become more i havent thought of it. Havent thought about it. He was asked the same question in february of this year. Pervasive since donald trump was he had the very same response. Inaugurated and an editorial hadnt thought about it. Some months elapsed. This is up. That is President Trump refusing urg to rule out a pardon for his former operative roger stone. Urges a focus on that. Well see what the president ultimately decides to do, however, it appears he is theyre saying democrats should focus on President Trump as this reading a scripted answer. Cam pan continues. Heres what he said when asked a great line about how the about it in february. Debates over issues have comes as the president s gearing devolved into what you might up for major legal battle with find in an academic department. The nations highest court which agreed to hear trumps appeal of why is it important to set those lower court orders that require aside as we get into 2020 . The accountants to hand over financial records to local the editorial was meant as a prosecutors in new york. Bit of a reality check that this the case expected to be heard in is not going to be a normal march with a decision at the end of june just as the general issuesoriented election, that election season begins more in first and foremost its a the limelight. Ann, i start with you on that referendum on the conduct and point. The president encouraged this character of the incumbent. Case to move quickly. Happy that three cases are going to be heard by the Supreme Court in the coming months. And, therefore, if you think how pivotal could they be to donald trump is a threat to the this presidency and to executive power here Going Forward . Nation, an unfit president , priority one, two and three out well, david, sort of something that is going to sound to be victory. So it great to have a plan for slightly counterintuitive, the everything, but if you dont win, those plans become rather white house and the lawyers acting on trumps bee half academic. And we were struck during the outside the white house, weirdly most recent debate in los sort of hope that this is a big angeles where they spent a good deal. Chunk of time talking about even though these are cases about the president allegedly whether its appropriate to have a fundraiser in a wine cellar. Trying to hide potential financial wrongdoing or at the very least conceal how much money he has or doesnt have. That ignored that the Trump Campaign and committee have because, you know, this is going already raised more than 3 to be a test of a couple things. For one thing, its a distraction million, unlike when the trump from impeachment which came much campaign was like a shoestring, later than the cases that this time its well financed, well staffed and very good developed into the Supreme Court technology operation. Test. The other thing that is going to so in 2008 barack obama decided be a test is whether trump to reject public financing. He took a lot of heat for that remade the Supreme Court in the but he did it for one reason, he way that certainly he and his wanted to win. Ill quote one more line from advisors hope he has been able the piece. Your colleagues write, thats not to say the issues dont to do. You know, he has appointed more matter. Federal judges than any what is there room to talk about . As these candidates focus on president in recent memory and donald trump, what do you think maybe much longer than that. And your colleagues think is hes already had a chance to put fair game that democrats should two very conservative justices be hashing out here in the on the Supreme Court. Coming months . He thinks he has more control one thing that strikes me from 2016 is that for all the over the Supreme Court than he polarization in the nation, the actually does. Exit polls in 2016 showed that but he clearly believes that this is a court that is in 39 of voters selfidentified as taking these cases at all, you moderate, 35 as conservative know, friendly to his view. They could have turned the cases and 26 as liberal. Away and the lower court so it seems pretty clear that decisions would have stood. You cannot win the presidency your sense of the importance just with progressive votes. Of all of this and, again this is played out over a very long so i think theres basically two period of time. The were approaching the next main issues beside trumps election. Lets go back to that point, fitness for office and those what the president s setting would be health care and the might be. State of the economy. Its hugely important. It makes absolutely no and on health care its hard to difference. I mean, thats the situation were in. You know, take this in stages. See how mandatory medicare for all would be a winner in the first, its the typical norms are collapsing. States the democrats need to so then work for president obama win. It doesnt matter if they win i worked for secretary clinton california by five votes or 5 and president obama through that way. These folks put out their lives million votes. In terms of their financial and medical records going back give again, the election will come down to states like forever. Hillarys tax records were pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. And in those states, first of released back to 1992 because all, medicare for all would take her husband was president. People have done that because away some hardearned health they believe when theyre running for president that the voters have a right to see care plans from union members. Everything. And then, secondly, you have then you have trump just doing what he wants. Older voters who like medicare, which is on the tax front, just saying no. On the medical front, giving theyre in the medicare club and if you talk about adding another this hysterically comical 150 Million People to that club, transparent forged document from theyre going to worry about the the doctor saying this guy is quality of their medicare. The smartest, healthiest person ever in the history of man. I want to bring you in, susan then you have the press accepting it. Del percio. Ho how funny. As you look at the republican he has this doctors note. Party, which did not squabble 45 days ago, he went to the hospital. We dont know what he d on the over wine cellars, we now see taxes, same thing. Whenever we get the taxes, it might show something in there. I mean, i do think there is its ialienated a part of it. Magical thinking mock the far left and the t is it important to have these conversations about what it is people are thinking its going at a point in time . To show Money Laundering with it is important but whats Deutsche Bank with, this and interesting is theyre rg it at a time when the poll you showed that. Im not sure what a tax return at the top was 60 of the people would show. But it wont make a difference think the country is heading in because nothing makes a the wrong direction with one of difference. What he is doing though is that he is successfully stalling. The best economies this country has had in over 20 years. So lets not forget, this record low unemployment, stock started with the house of market is a good indicator. Representatives asking for his asking this treasury theres even an uptick in wages. Department for his tax returns. That is one of the clearer laws so the fact that 60 say theres a problem, thats an opening for and statutes of the house can avail itself of. Democrats. That they must turn it over. And the question is do they want and they did not turn it over. To have which way do they and here we are months and think they can win best . Months later finally getting to it. It missed all its not like can you dream big and good for it all or you can go after the were going to open up another investigation looking at taxes for all intents and purposes. Swing states that youre going it missed the window of the to need to win the electoral hardest point of scrutiny. College. Win california by five votes or and, look, hes either going to 5 million, it doesnt matter. Youve got to go after those luck out because like ann said, the court is not as much in his swing states. Favor or more likely is going to i think when you look at the health care issue, you can luck out because kavanaugh and really go after donald trump on roberts is going to understand it. In fact, hes in court trying to that they are very pro executive take away your preexisting power and privilege. Conditions and keeping your and might just say its no ones children on your health care. Business. If not on this point of the taxes, on some others. So hes actually fighting against your interest. The delaying has helped donald thats a great argument and thats where the argument should trump. The courts have only helped donald trump. Even if he loses, he is buying stay. You want to fix it, thats fine, but first lets figure out how months and months and months. To beat donald trump because thats the most important this the congress has had to go to the courts to get mulvaney. Evening. Chuck brewster in iowa, they never got mulvaney. Theres the debate stage weve they had to go to the courts to seen as we talked about a moment ago. How about on the campaign trail, get ma nuch others. The other disparate issues versus that, the key issue here of getting donald trump out of let me ask you about the office . Reporter getting President Trump out of office is the top casualty of all this and the priority, especially when you agitation or excitement about listen to voters and what what is in the documents. Theyre listening for. I go back to the landmark piece thats also a cause of a divide in which they got some small part of the tax returns along you hear on the trail. Eight benefit for Vice President with thousands of pages. Biden where you have democratic something that should have made voters believing that biden a huge splash. It didnt make the seismic appeals to more moderate voters, that he can pull over some of change to our conversation about this president that perhaps they those republicans that were lost should have. Or more moderate voters lost in yeah. No, i mean, it basically 2016 but then you have revealed that trumps own progressive candidates making the opposite argument saying it creation story is bogus. He inherited a bunch of money. Was about voter turnout, democrats didnt show up to the he didnt manage that money very well. And been very lucky. Polls in 2016 as they did in look, i tend to think that the previous years. Thats the argument that sanders extent to which he sought to and warren, for example, make. Conceal these does send a signal that there is stuff in there its a divide you see on the that can be damaging to him. Debate stage but continues to exist even among voters here on to me, you know, what is the most important point of all this though is that trump is a the cam pan trapaign trail. President because he doesnt accept norms, he says everybody francesca, im going to put else is releasing records, i up the poll. Wont do. What does that polling tell you that everybody else is shamed by public pressure, im never shamed. If trump can count on the Supreme Court to back him up on about this . Whats being debated versus what happens on the campaign trail . This, its a test case for all kinds of things. Maybe people didnt like the you know, if you consider hes attack on him that Elizabeth Warren made. Reelected. He wants to take apart i think shaq makes an legislation that was passed in interesting point about it depends on why you think donald democratic administrations like trump won the 2016 election or at fordable care act. Democrats lost it, however you if he can test and find out the want to look at that, as to why Supreme Court will essentially get his back in all these things, then you do have a or how they should be president in this country who is campaigning now. Above the law. Is it because Hillary Clinton rules that apply to citizens didnt go to wisconsin, didnt dont apply to him. Spend enough time in michigan or the tax returns are a test of that. Pennsylvania that they need to i think its really important. Have a better message for people all right. Well see what happens here in in those states . June. Ann of the Washington Post, is it because she didnt generate the same sort of thank you for joining n happy new year. Enthusiasm as donald trump, who President Trump taking credit was holding multiple rallies a for stock market records and for the health of the u. S. Economy. Day . Is it because she didnt take he and his advisors know it is him on enough when she was on the key to his reElection Campaign. But first, we have seen the president take on World Leaders the cam ppaign trail and spent o much time talking about ideas . Before. Most recently, Justin Trudeau at a summit in the uk and also on if were going to use that as an twitter. Example pore for 2020 and what i guess justin t doesnt like me making him pay up on nato or candidates should be doing, all of this is really relevant. Trade he wrote. What has the president upset . In this piece, it comes up if news that canadian broadcasting you focus entirely on donald channel aired a version of home alone 2 without the five second camo at the plaza. 2 without the trump, you open the risk that camo at the plaza. Youre only on the attack, you excuse me, where is the lobby . Down the hall and to the are dont have in ideas. Left. Thanks. You have to have something. The edit in question is one we learned that the cut happened you cant just cam pan as years before he took office. Somebody who is antidonald he is angry but hes not. Heres donald trump just days trump, you have to be for before this story began. Something. I think thats fueling the more well, im in home alone 2. Progressive candidates like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. And it was a very big hit, but at the same time, voters will get tiresome of the litmus obviously. Its a Big Christmas hit. Tests within the party, about one of the biggest. Whether its okay to have so its an honor to be involved in Something Like that. Onor to b in Something Like that fundraisers, whether a wine hi im joan lunden. Cellar and 3,800 bottle of wine. It whats going to happen with my health care and higher education. It shouldnt become trite to discuss those nittygritty policy maerlts but at the same ti maerlgtters, but at the sam time, klobuchar is fueled by this desire to defeat donald trump and that being the top priority for democrats. Let me ask you lastly about the form in which in is happening. We are still in a primary. There are a lot of candidates vying for the nomination. Theyre trying to set themselves apart from each other. Presumably, the focus youre prescribing will be the one that the democratic nominee is going to adopt. In other words, how worried should we be at this point in the cam ppaign there isnt that whole focus you writedas might pivot to the center toward the general election. You dont want becomes difficult or impossible to reach out to the moderates. Theres probably 10 or 15 of republicans who are antitrump, who are gettable as long as you dont go too far out. I also think on the economy, susan mentioned some poll numbers, but on the economy 70 say the economy is in good shape and at the debate basically the democrats answer to how do they run against the trump economy is that everything is terrible. So they need a better answer in terse of the people who are doing a little better under trump, whose 401 k s are performing. There are answers you can say he inherited an obama economy, that it would be better without his trade war or that hes juicing the economy with trillion dollar deficits. But you cant just say the economy is not working for anyo anyone. Bill, thank you very much for the time. Appreciate it. Still ahead, speculation on todays Senior Living communities have never been better, aocs plan for the future. With amazing amenities like movie theaters, exercise rooms but first a law maker giving and swimming pools, public cafes, bars and bistros democrats hope as impeachment even pet care services. 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And the economy heading into 2020 is on solid footing with a stock market rally in the green. Cnbc reporting the s p 500 is returning more than 50 since donald trump was elected. With approval numbers hovering in the low 40s, this current president doesnt seem to be reaping many many of the political rewards you would expect from such a strong economy. Ben with me in new trump stock market rally is very good but still lags obama and clinton. Put this into context with us. The market side and well get to the economics in just a sec. Sits been a great year for stocks. Were almost up 30 on the s and p 500. Its shaping up to be pot