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Transcripts For MSNBCW Up WSteve Kornacki 20130706

Floor for a vote next week. This was not ordinary hearing. Roughly 3,500 people showed up at the capital and 1,100 registered to testify. Wendy davis addressed those thousands of supporters at a rally monday. Lets remind governor perry that fairness is and always will be a fundamental texas value. It shouldnt be unusual for a public official to stand and fight for the men and women who elected them. It should be a job requirement. Davis, who shot to national prominence, is considering a run for governor next year. The odds are long in texas for democrats havent won statewide office in nearly two decades. Meanwhile, perry, who is already texas longest serving governor is going to announce on monday whether hell seek an unprecedented fourth term next week. Perry up 14 points over davis in a hypothetical matchup and also up 12 points over Republican Attorney general greg abbott. I want to bring in congressional reporter with talkingpointsmemo. Com and louis and Senior Adviser to the 2008 Hillary Clinton president ial amcane. L. J. Williams founder of the Public Affairs and perry bacon jr. , Political Editor at our sister site. I guess start with the question of rick perry. Governor of texas really since it was the Supreme Court ruling in the bush gore case in 2000 that made bush president and he is promising an exciting announcement about his fufer on monday. I think its the end of rick perry as governor. Is it an exciting announcement . If he runs again, that is not exciting. I think most voters saw enough last time. Even republicans to not be that excited about him running for president. How exciting wendy davis is right now. I dont think shed win, but a worthwhile campaign would certainly be a campaign that drew national attention. Whats interesting when you look at it. We talked about the ppp poll that came out this week. What is interesting to me about it the filibuster and special session and helped wendy davis and rick perry. Rick perry is up 14 points over wendy davis and polled headtohead with her a couple months ago and only up six. This caused republicans to rally around rick perry in texas. His Approval Rating is now 81 to 16 in texas. At the same time, wendy davis is single the most popular political figure in texas. She has the best favorable, unfavorable score. Overall it helped wendy davis. Showed up rick perry with the Republican Base. Absolutely. Look, two very different styles of Political Leadership here. Here is rick perry whose reputation rests on two things. He could not remember his own threepoint plan when running for president. He got two out of three, probably not enough. Willing to shut off health care. To show how tough he is, he is going to shut off health care and people who need those clinics. Thats rick perry. Wendy a tavs who stands up alone against the forces of the state who speaks for 13 hours. Try to take her down because she had to put on a back brace. Heres the irony, we care about the Womens Health and then they want to penalize her for using a brace. She is the new face of texas politics. She doesnt get elected next year, she will get elected. Do you think shell run next year for governor . As i understand it, theyre going to try to take her seat away. Her legislative seat. She may not have a legislative seat. If she were to ask me and i see no reason why she would. But my guess is she would run and she would do well and may not be enough this time, but it is coming. As i say, shes the new face of politics. Another thing that is interesting to me in this poll, joy. We look at texas as conservative state, republican state. Right now still a republican state. When you poll the question of abortion and sort of broadly speaking in texas. Probably more prolife sentence than prochoice. When you filter it through the debate they just had had and ask specifically about sb5. Thats actually more unpopular now in this poll than popular. So, sort of the theater and the attention that wendy davis drew to the issue and the way she drew attention to it seems to change the way people think about the issue in texas. Her method and her politics, that is what is more effective, right . It is taking away what messaging from either side and getting to the real meat of the question. Even in the polls, if you ask the question differently, then people have a different response. If you ask them about choice, theyre for that. If you ask about restricting abortion or striking down roe v. Wade, theyre wait, no, wait, thats not what i meant. Of all the issues, abortion is the toughest one. Thats the thing. As many people believe the should be this individual choice. People dont believe in restricting peoples choice when you get down to it. You can manipulate polls, but fundamentally people believe that particularly this legislation and legislation across the country and other states, rather. The way they are framing the conversation is if you are antibaby. And thats not it. I think what wendy davis does is sort that out and im not talking about talking points, how this will fundamentally affect your lives and womens lives. And thats the new face of politics. The expectation in this special session, this will, this bill will become a law. It will pass and be signed. What is the effect of that sign . Its interesting how National Democrats have rallied around wendy davis and made her one of their featured causes for the last few weeks. National republicans have not been as eager to rally around rick perry. Well, rick perry seems to have cracked the code in texas. He figured out how to stay governor for longer than anyone else. If he wants it the next time, he probably has it. On a National Level, very different. He might run for president , again. Its not clear. If he does, who knows what will happen. He did not impress and come close to impressing last time. I think the really interesting thing about this filibuster and wendy davis phenomenon, theyre ready for a strong voice. It helped rick perry, as well, because the filibuster has helped him grandstand about the life of the unborn and were not done fighting and all this stuff. There seems to be a difference to me. Where hes doing what the Republican Base clearly wants, but there seems to be, im reading the hesitancy of National Public leaders to get involved with this. On the house level, they passed the 20week abortion bill. Theyre not supporting rick perry, but supporting the issue. I think republicans on a National Level are aware this is not the kind of battle they want to be picking. One House Republican said this is a stupid idea, im not sure what my leadership is doing. They are proliferating at the state level. The Republican Committee earlier this year spent several Million Dollars on a report what do we do to recover from this loss and they said, gee, we have young people and we really need to reach out to these new voters. You just look what perry singlehandally is doing. They spent a lot of money to get advice that the republicans state by state do not want to accept and theyre going their own way. To their point, steve, just in going back to 2012. Look, we were 53 of the electorate, this is women, right . Obama won by 11 points and they won single women, i think it was 36 that obama won. But this is from the growth and opportunity to report that was brought up. The autopsy right. This is their quote regarding women. Republicans need to make a better effort at listening to female voters, directing their policy proposals what they learn from women and indicating they understand. Clearly, they did not read that part of the report. Gunmakers firing back at progun control politicians. Thats after this. Two weeks ago on the show we discussed rick perrys effort to convince gun manufacturers to pack up and move to texas. So far no connecticut gunmakers have taken governor perry up on his offer, although one Connecticut Company did strike a deal with South Carolina to move there. And now barrettausa is looking to expand its operations outside of maryland. Being wooed by leaders from several states and flatly ruled out two of them this week. They would not expand in West Virginia, because of senator joe manchins push to expand background checks on gun purchases and turning down rhode island an executive wrote the consistency with which a given state has supported Second Amendment rights. The company says it is still considering seven other states for its planned expansion. A big delay. Im already reading the tease and i shouldnt be. Thats what happens when you try to do the show with the flu. The back stream in this is maryland and Martin Omalley passed the restrictions on assault weapons and restrictions on magazines and barretta started making noise, we dont want to be in maryland any more. So, manchin put in a call saying, hey, if youre not happy in maryland consider going to texas. So, it is interesting to me here because it seems like he is trying to have it both ways. He is taking this genuinely where politicians stand on gun control and at the same time try to steal gun jobs from maryland, if the governor tries to act too boldly there. He is taking a pretty modest gun control position. He is not a grab all your weapons. Went from a plus to b minus. But he took a radical view. If you ask joe manchin, used to be the governor of West Virginia, of course. He is trying to bring jobs into the state and National Figure in the future. He wants to bring in jobs in the state and also raise money and also wants to appeal to this modest gun control because he has now, as well. So, i think hes not really, i think the gun manufacturers see it differently, but not a contradiction between what hes doing on these issues. The voice of sanity. The vast majority of gun owners support what hes doing. Harm a manufacturer like beretta. Hes just expanding them to gun shows. So, what beretta is doing now is just sort of being a little melodramatic and being aggre aggressive and no defense quite like a good offense. But part of it, too, i guess one of the reports i read said that back in 2000 when the clinton administration, they were able to get an agreement, not through legislation, they were an agreement on gun safety measure and blow back against the gun manufacturer through the market of gun buyers who said youre selling out sort of Second Amendment means a lot to them and maybe a little positioning on market posturing. A few people from within on the manufacturing side who saw a chance to score points. So, heres joe manchin who is being a straight, standup guy. Was a plus with the nra and tried to make a modest change and what does he do . He is now getting attack. One the nra trying to send a messa message, you cant disagree with them in the slightest. On the other hand, i think a lot of his colleagues in the senate are going to look at this and say, a guy trying to do the right thing and doing something that is basically popular and that may cost the nra eventually. You cant keep insisting of elected officials that they do that 1,000 obedient school every time. Particularly since this is something the nra supported in the past, as well. So, theyve changed, but youre not allowed to change. It is just really hard to be an adult and a legislative adult. But i wonder, the thing with machin. There should be room in this for the sensible progun position that says im progun and believe in some restrictions. At a certain point here, you look at what Martin Omalley did in maryland and what dan molloy and andrew cuomo in new york where they did sweeping gun control measures in the wake of newtown in the last few months and whether its rick perry in texas or whether its joe manchin making a phone call to the gun manufacturers, he is undercutting the work of other courageous democrats on the gun control issue by trying to lure jobs from his state. My suspension the connecticut, maryland, new york have higher texas on businesses than texas does. Im almost certain of that. Were only talking about his economics. Companies dont move for protest reasons. I dont like the governor, he didnt smile at me correctly. So, i suspect the gun manufacturers will come for tax reasons and theyll say its because gun control laws in maryland, but i know maryland has fairly high tax rates and manchin playing both sides of this . Yes, he is. Is Martin Omalley in a better place . Opposed to these kind of guns not being used, you wouldnt want them in your state. This is more about economics than it is about policy. It doesnt make a whole lot of sense because nothing manchin is doing would apply to West Virginia. Nothing he is doing would apply to handguns. Yes, youre right about the Martin Omalley who is my governor. We have had governors step up to the plate and were all the better for it. It is interesting to see we have the warning example from connecticut. Theyre not talking about moving from maryland. If we expand in the future, maybe it will be somewhere else. A big delay for an important part of obama care draws fire from republicans, after this. Lots of options, huh . I can help you narrow it down. Ok thanks. This ones smudge free. Smudgefree. Really . And this one beeps when you leave the door open. Upgrade your laundry room and Kitchen Appliances during red white and blue savings. Thank you more saving. More doing. Thats the power of the home depot. 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A liberal economist who used to work in the Administration Warns the delay could come at a great public cost. The employer mandate wrote on tuesday, employees who currently provide coverage to their workers could drop the coverage and send over to the state health care exchanges. Subsidies to fray the cost. Employer would be shifting what is now a private cost over to the government. Called the employer mandate delay another reason why obama care should be repealed. It is a clear Immediate Mission by the administration that the Health Care Law is unaffordable, unworkable and unpopular. Want to bring in representative frank palone and the Ranking Member of the Congress Committee in the house and new jersey special election this summer. Congressman, thanks for joining us. Thanks. You were part of crafting this law and one of the biggest things i have been hearing this week is the employer mandate was probably the worst individual component of this law in terms of how it was constructed. Do you agree with that . I think its a good thing and the republicans are making much of it, because, basically, as you know, they want to repeal the whole thing. But the fact of the matter is that most employers, youre talking larger employers now do provide Health Insurance and it really was just done. This delay is just being done because of the reporting requirements. I dont think it has much of an impact other than that. The republicans will use it to say, we should reverse the whole thing and repeal the whole thing. I keep saying the republicans have to work with us on this Health Care Law. It is the law of the land and not going to be repealed. May have to be some changes or delays or whatever, but thats what happens when you have major legislation that has such a major, positive impact on the american people. Just to understand the employment issue a little bit. There was a difference, the house law that was passed and the senate bill, a key difference on how the employer mandate was treated and the senate bill, which was ultimately adopted which is now the law and disincentives that the house bill didnt contain originally. We were always concerned between the house and the senate about once there was an employer mandate what the penalty would be and how much that penalty would be. But the fact of the matter is, most large employers do provide Health Insurance. If someone isnt getting it through their employer, they go on the exchange and get a subsidy and it will be affordable and it really hasnt changed that much in terms of what actually happens prablthically because of this del delay. There is this interesting dynamic when the law was passed, it is imperfect and require tweaking and adjustment over the years. The republicans had 38, 39, 40 repeal votes in the house. Thats where they are. It is repeal or nothing. There is no tweaking or working around it. You take an issue like the employer mandate and if you still have republicans controlling the house, you will have to implement this thing, if you consider it flawed, you will have to implement it at some point. Anyway it could be tweaked at all legislatively . The republicans realize theyre not going to help and not do anything to ma

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