There are moments when serious parties president ial candidates can emerge. We may by a proeching one of those moments. Also, well head out to the plains of iwest virginia ted cruz spoke there last night and is uniteing, killing pheasants there today, excuse me. The gop establishments have been taking a shot at him. Its a big problem for republicans and well discuss it. Also on up against the color we made history last week with our highest score ever in our first ever jackpot winner. Now three new contestants will one up there. Brian, they are coming for you. First, i want to start in 1961, it was a hopeful time in america, john q. Kennedy, the new frontier and generation, a new idea for how to foster good will throughout the world. The vanguard of peace corps volunteers who will fan throughout the world in undeveloped countries starts training in rutgers university. A visual examination is first on the agenda for the youths seeking to fill 64 vacancy, on their first day the group of unpaid volunteers gathers to hear the peace core director. He calls it the most important project the u. S. Has attempted in a decade and says its success could mean much to democracy. Ah, the peace corps, a mainstay of the American Health service in the last half century, in 1961, it was brandnew, just being launched. It hit some snags. Here is a postcard written in 1961 by a 23yearold peace corps volunteer in foxboro, pennsylvania, before the home of the patriot, they were playing at Boston University back then. Anyway, once you have reached her assignment in nigeria, she wrote home at the quote squalor and primitive Living Conditions rampant in the cities and the bush. Everyone excepts us lives in streets, cooks in streets, even goes to the bathroom in streets. Not a flattering picture of the host country. Since she wrote this on a postcard, not a letter, someone in nigeria spotted it, published it. It caused a national uproar, there were protests, loud demands for the expulsion of peace corps volunteers the stereotype of the ugly american. Back in the united states, critics of the new program, there were plenty of them. They claimed vindication. Theyt this sending young naive idealists was a waste of money. It was a waste of money that will make Foreign Relations worse, here was the proof they had been searching for t. Volunteer that wrote that postcard was eventually sent home. The director of the peace core sergeant schriefr vowed it would carry on, anyway, there were some booboos, the New York Times published an editorial staying we wish we could expect the ill wishers to display equal balance by not labeling it a club for the peace corps program. No way, this is the story of every big new government program. There are going to be glitches, small problems, big problems, embarrassing incidents, things that no one thought were going to go wrong are going to go wrong. Things people should have known are going wrong will go wrong. They will be mannedr handed plenty of clubs to attack the programs with. All those early claims of vindications from opponents is full of examples of them adding up to nothing. When people think of the peace core today, not many of them are still asking if theny algerian postcard incident means the program cant work. This is all essential to keep in mind right now, a little more than three weeks into the implementation of obama care. It began october 1st, especially now the shutdown chaos is over, you have heard all the very real problems with it. The many very real problems. Americans are having when they go online to try to sign up for the exchanges. When the history of obama care is written some day, what we are living through may end up being more than a footnote. President obama is adamant that the website issues are being resolved. Yesterday, the administration announced a new absolute deadline, said the exchanges will be fully functioning on the online portion november 30th. Americans n and the individual market will somewhere no problems shopping for the competitive priced Insurance Plans they were created to sell. If that does happen, then the story of obama care chaos as defining News Coverage right now will rapid give way for the story of a triumph of a new program doing exactly what supporters promised it would do. That history hasnt been written yet. The website Horror Stories could be a temporary pr story for the administration. The success of the obama care rests on getting young, Healthy People in particular to sign up for these exchanges. They can sign up vibrant risks, making it affordable for everyone. If the website isnt working or the stories of the website not working scare off would be customers, then that is a threat to the risk people. A threat to the risk pool is a threat to the heart of the law. There is still plenty of time here. December 15th is the first deadline for people looking to buy insurance exchanges. March 31st is the final deadline before the individual mandate kicks in. They wrote yesterday, the Administration Spent all of this year pointing to october 1st. To that opening of the exchanges as a huge critical test of the laws success. No one said the success was letting kids underage 26 stay under their Insurance Plan. No one said it was regulating insurers covering preventative care. Instead, everyone in the white house shared a singular definition. Success meant a setting up the exchanges and attracting enough young people that premiums stayed low. So thats the question this morning. Are we experiencing the normal frustrating headaches that come with the launch of aniny program or something more ominous happening here . What can the president , his team, congress, what can anyone in walk or anyone anywhere in the political system do to shake that history in real time. I want to ask my panel about that this morning. We have, the cohost of msnbc the cycle. A show i have heard. We have rebecca cinderbrand, the editor for politico, reverend joe watkins, a former white house aid to former president h. W. Bush, susie kim a fascial reporter for msnbc. Com. So there is a couple directions i sort of want to go with this i guess right now,let start with the bakes the white house yesterday came out saying, okay, look, the exchanges, the online portion, the enrollment opened october 1st. We have all these massive website problem, we are convinced and will guarantee by the end of november, these problems will be resolved. Can you go online, get your insurance exchanged, obama care can be a success. I guess two, questions, susie, given they couldnt meet this october 1st deadline, how confident should we be they will be able to turn this up and around by midnovember . It is a really opened questionment i mean, as weve seen as we learned more, there are really Serious Problems that are plaguing this site and the reason that ended october deadline is so important is because basically, their Insurance Plans that dont meet the new requirements of obama care that basically have to have certain essential benefits that are covered and so forth. Those plans are going to be dropped on december 31st and people basically have to have the insurance that by december 15th, theyll be able to sign up for insurance to be covered on january 1st. Thats the reason that this time line, you know, not just for the bigger political reasons of is obama care going to succeed or not, thats the reason that dead lean is so important. Rebecca, in terms of meeting that deadline right now, there is sort of a political question here. There is a lot of noise in the air in general of all the problems people are having with this. Should we be confident in your mind the deadline can be met . The interesting thing is uconn traft this to the role of october 1st, the administration was at pains ahead of that deadline to say, its down, october 1st is not a big deal. They didnt have any huge kind of launch events per se. They wanted tocy, this is just the starting point. This will be a six month marathon, not a sprint. When you set these hard and fast deadlines, that sets them up again for a sense of disappointment, if, indeed, the technical wrapups are not met. There is a hope they will be. But will is no sense that there is any actual concrete definitive plan to enit by those dates. I wonder what you are thinking about this. I know you are a supporter of the law. At the same time, its under attack here in a political context, where there are plub republican, opponents who have never been for the law at all and are hoping for it to fail and are latching on to this. At the same time, if you want this law to work, this website, not just the website, itself, the whole sort of online infrastructure that will allow individual to go out and buy private Health Insurance, thats the heart of the law, this has to work or six months from now, we will be talking about how the costs of the premiums will be a lot higher. Thats my frustration here is that we have with really no excuse and for no good reason given the republican opponents a club to beat us with, right, as you were talking about and even if we look back at historical examples of things going wrong and certainly things go wrong in Big Government programs all the time. We know over 19 Million People have visited this site. In that time, we have to have a lot of missed opportunities for people to sign up for obama care. Thats my frustration. I expected some glitches. I expected some minor problems that republicans would be all upset and hysterical about. I didnt expect it to be so bad the site crashed immediately and the information is wrong, the Medicaid Eligibility verification is not working properly. I mean, almost every piece of this has some sort of a problem. So do i ultimately think that obama care is going to be a Great Success and when we look down the road, you know, five years from now even, this will seem like an asterisk, yes, but we have taken a risk that was completely unnecessary and we have given our opponents who have acted in bad faith here, right, the whole way . Theyre not playing fair. Theyre not playing by the rules, theyre not looking at the facts. We have given them a weapon to use against this law. It was unnecessary, it was an unforced error. You are sort of maybe the opponent that chris will be referring to. You represent, you are a part of a Political Party that has made opposition to this law really the centerpiece of this agenda for the last few years. Tell me im wrong, though, to be very cynical of what i heard, there was the congressional hearing the house hearing, you had republican voice of republican voice in this hearing who had voted to defund this law, shut down the government over the funding of this law, speaking about the outrage of consumers signing up for this law. I feel there is a sort of a disconnect will. Am i wrong to see that . Of course, in politic, people posture one way or the other. There is much to be won or lost based upon whether your side wins. At the end of the day, there is no joy to be taken in the fact that the rollout hasnt been successful. There is no joy for anybody in the fact that it hasnt and you are right, just because the rollout has been a little rocky and there have been glitches early on doesnt pine it wont be up and working just fine in november or early december . And well all forget that the october rollout was so poorly done. That being said, the, we ought not wish ill on a program because we disagree with it. But what we ought to do is we ought to work to fix it, if there are things wrong wit. For instance, with regards to the individual mandate, maybe what senator manchin, a democrat are saying, republicans are saying, make sense, delay the start date here, so that you give people a chance, you give yourself some time as well. If it takes longer to fix the glitches than we think currently. Yesterday, they said i think november 15th or somewhere there abouts. At least then if you delay the start date, you give people a chance to not worry about having to 69 i sign up for the program. You give yourself a chance to make sure the program is fixed. Then you can work on some of the issues in the program, republicans and democrats, that dont work for people. Can i press that a minute . I think one of the reasons, the idea of making a change like you are suggesting, like joe manchin is suggesting, the reason there hasnt been a lot of enthusiasm, they made the change like on the business mandate early this year. What happened was they saw every republican fighting this thing just took that as a weapon to say, they, you know, look, this law is coming apart. This is a sign of failure, not as an opportunity to compromise and say, this is the law of the land, can you see the Republican Party getting to a point where every little clang to the law is not another indictment of the law, another reason it needs to repeal it. Its like, hey, this is the law. We want to work to improve it. Can you see the Republican Party getting to that point . Id like to see a much more civil tone. It hurts america when the two parties are on each others throats, and one side said we wish for the other sides failure, that doesnt help america move forward and if republicans return to power, it doesnt help republican, democrats will say, you didnt help us while we were here, we will work against you when you are in power. At the end of the day, we all benefit if republicans and democrats work together, what isnt working . Is this bill this is now a law, obowl care or the ofordable care act is now a law, with which we all have to live, how can we make it better for americans . What can we do for small american owners . What can we do for swloidz are upset about the individual mandate. Folks that have insurance they like but because they arent a part of a big company, they have their own plan, now they are being forced to sign up at a website that doesnt work. Whoa, we got to jump out here. 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That was democratic congressman frank pelones exchange at thursdays hearing e hearing about the obama care rollout t. New jersey democrat was chairman of the house subcommittee when the Affordable Care act passed. Congressman, i have to say i started covering politics in new jersey. I have been covering you more than ten years, i kind of saw a side i hadnt seen before. I think everyone watching the show saw that clip. Maybe start by telling us, what was it that sort of set you off like that on thursday . Why did you respond on thursday . What happened to you . Its sort of what you mentioned before, steve the republicans just came off almost a threeweek shutdown, which was ostensibly because they wanted to delay or repeal the Affordable Care act. So they dont come to this hearing with clean hands. I didnt get the impression before or at the hearing that they wanted to fix this and get the Affordable Care act running so people could sign up. In that particular instance, congressman joe barten from texas was trying to scare people by saying, oh, your privacy will be impacted if you use this site. Which is not true. If you scare spooem people, they dont use this site or sign up, as you said, they wont have people sign up and there wont be enough people in the insurance pool to make it effective or affordable. My fear is always with the gop that theyre trying to sabotage this whole effort and there is a lot of reason to believe. So, but there are. We started to outline this a little bit in the introduction at the top of the show. There are serious questions in terms of you look at how critical it is from the administration standpoint of making this law work, how critical it is to get people to sign up early so that rick pool works. We are dealing with three weeks of all sorts of nightmares and headaches with this. When you look at the calls from some democrats, joe manchin and democrats have said, look, given all this, lets extend the Enrollment Period past march 31st, what do you say to that . I feel now. You heard what came up yesterday, there is a real effort now to correct the website. I think three out of 10 people now who go on do end up getting enrolled. Okay . Theyre standing there by december 30th, it should be 100 . More people should get enrolled. The numbers will go up. I think the pressure is on now to get it going around make it work. I dont want to alleviate that by saying we will delay. The first thing i wanted to say, th