The move comes as trump receives continued criticism for suggesting that americans could ingest household disinfectants to kill the virus. Republicans are also increasingly worried that his remarks may have an effect on the senate come november. For his part, trump tweeted yesterday that the briefings and news conferences, which are meant to update the public are, quote, not worth the time and effort. A sentiment im sure some of you watching right now share. It all comes as the white house is reportedly looking to replace the health and Human Services secretary, alex azar. There was no Coronavirus Task force briefing yesterday and there isnt one scheduled for today, either. But that doesnt mean our White House Team has the day or even the morning off. Joining me now from the white house, nbc news political reporter, monica alba. Good morning, monica. Does anyone actually have enough sway over trump to dissuade him from doing these briefings . Likely not, ali. As weve seen over the last 48 hours, though. It seems as if some of the advice presented to the present by his closest aides and allies has to say the least struck a chord with him and he is potentially reconsidering these daily briefings. Yesterday is the first example, because since the day after easter sunday, there have been daily updates and weve seen sometimes these briefings go into multiplehour events. But yesterday, as you mentioned, there was no briefing. There isnt one scheduled for today. Theres a chance, of course, that they will resume tomorrow. But whats notable is that the task force has had nearly 50 briefings, 40 of which the president has participated in. And we actually added up the hours, and its more than 65 hours, wroughly that the president has spent or his task force has briefed members of the press and the American Public on this issue. When he says its not worth the time and effort. The way hes spending his time in the last two months clearly suggests otherwise. But aides and allies for weeks, even before the controversial comments about disinfectants on thursday have urged him to take a step back and potentially reevaluate how useful it is to come to the podium every day and give medical moousings instead letting sometimes his top doctors speak. And last week we saw that dr. Fauci was actually only here for one briefing of seven. We have seen dr. Deborah birx more consistently at these briefings as of late, but someone who hasnt been there in the last few weeks is the head of hhs, secretary alex azar, who is now rumored to be replaced. The white house is denying that, but whats notable is he used to lead the task force. Originally, he was set to chair it before the president asked Vice President mike pence to come in and take the lead. So we have seen a shift there. And of course, secretary azar has also been at the center of a lot of questions of the timeline of what could have potentially been done sooner in the handling of the pandemic, ali. Monica, thank you for your reporting. Monica alba at the white house for us this morning. Meanwhile, the world has reached another unfortunate milestone. More than 200,000 people have lost their lives from covid19. And almost 3 million have been infected. Chinese Officials Say there are no remaining hospitalizations in wuhan, where the outbreak is believed to have begun. Here in the United States, those numbers continue to climb. However, some states are determined to reopen, citing the economic situation. In california, residents are have swarmed to reopen beaches to try to beat a mini heat wave, despite a statewide stayathome order. I just dont think we have to we have to live in a hole, a cave, the whole time. Weve got to we have to get out. I think little by little, we have to move on. I mean, its a terrible situation, but you just have to take logical risks, be safe, and look at you know, make yoeur own decision on it. Joining me now is the president and ceo of International Rescue committee, david miliband. Hes a former member of parliament and secretary of state for foreign and Commonwealth Affairs with the british government. He has a new piece in politico with Sheryl Sandberg called, a second covid crisis is coming. Also with me, the director for the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at columbia university, dr. Irwin redlener, hes an msnbc Public Health analyst. His latest in the daily beast the covid19 death undercount is scarier than you think. Gentlemen, thank you for joining me this morning. Irwin, i want to follow on the conversation i was having with monica at the white house. There are lots of people, particularly a lot of people who watch this show, who will say that the president turned a corner or went too far or overstepped a long time ago on a lot of other issues, but theres definitely a sense and a sense even amongst his advisers and members of the Republican Party that what he did on thursday with respect to sunlight and disinfectants was, in fact, the kind of thing that makes us think that he shouldnt be giving anymore briefings. Sure, good morning, ali, and certainly, that was a turning point. That differentiated him from Everything Else and Everything Else was also loaded with mistakes, misstatements, lack of transparency, et cetera. But we had a big reveal on thursday when he talked about this kind of whacky modalities for treatment, including, you know, insertion into the human body of uv lights and the ingestion or insertion of cleaning products, basically, which are extremely dangerous. So, yeah, we have a president who has, i guess he originally thought he was doing himself a favor by being so public on this issue of covid. It turns out he knows very little about it. Depending on his top medical advisers and what he did was reveal himself as really completely ignorant when it comes to this issue, but hes doing it. The problem is, hes not just a person whos making this preposterous claims, hes the president of the United States with the most powerful bully pulpit that there is. And i think this whole idea of being public, so public has backfired on him and probably backfired politically as well as how people understand his base of knowledge and the recommendations hes make, ali. David, i have to ask you, this is not your normal work, but it was your normal work. You were an elected official, you were a cabinet secretary, so you understand that not all elected officials are experts on a topic. I dont expect donald trump to be an expert on infectious diseases, none of us are well, irwin is, but the rest of us are not. But theres Something Different from not being able to lead in a situation, even if youre not a subject matter expert. I think that the heart of effective Political Leadership is being clear about what you dont know as well as about what you do know. Its striking to me that around the world, the countries that have dealt with this crisis the best are those with leaders who have been clear where theres uncertainty, as well as clear where there is certainty. Who have guided their populations with real grit on the facts, and have shown a degree of unity and built a degree of unity, because this disease only gets beaten by an alliance of business, government, scientists, and the population as a whole. As someone whos obviously british, but lives and works in america and is honored to do so, it is obviously troubling that the United States is not at the forefront of dealing with this disease, and that countries like germany, south korea, have been able to show how democratic societies can mobilize the trust of their people in an open and transparent way. David, i want to ask you Something Else. In the middle of all of this thing, the president and his one of his chief policy advisers, stevphen miller, who s very, very hawkish on immigration in america, sort of imposed an executive order, eliminating the awarding of green cards to a lot of americans. Sort of slowing down immigration, something this president has wanted to do for a long time. You, orienn the other hand, are looking for the doctors in america who are refugees, to go and help in other hot spots in the world. Tell me about this. Well, the big debate about immigration is obviously something that can come for another time. But in the narrow confines of covid, what the president did this week in terms of cracking down on immigration is at best the diverse from the fight against covid and at worst neglect to critical resource. As you say, the International Rescue committee has launched a website, refugees. Rescue. Org, because we believe theres about 16,000 refugees and immigrants in america with international qualifications, International Medical qualifications, as doctors and as nurses, who are not currently practicing. That website has been up for an hour, a week or so, 500 people have already volunteered for it. These are people who have may helped American Forces in afghanistan and come here under the special immigrant visa program or immigrants and refugees who have come here over the last few years and want to put Something Back into the country that have welcomed them. I think this is the kind of initiative that could actually mobilize and unify the country, and certainly the reaction so far is that theres a real untapped resource there. Irwin, i want to ask you about your article with sean hanson, in which you say the death count is scarier than you think. You write that the underreporting of covid19 deaths, especially at the early part of the outbreak, is going to harm our ability to understand the scope of this infection. Yeah, you know, ali, so the problem is that we dont know how many people actually have died from this disease. And we have different criteria for how we determine that. Is it just people who have been positively identified with the test . And thats the case in many states . And the problem is, we werent doing testing. There are many anecdotal incidents of people who died from now looking back on it, most certainly had covid. And i think its very possible that well see 25 to 30 more fatalities than have been reported. We dont actually know the answer to how many people have died and still dont. Gentlemen, thanks to both of you for kicking us off this morning. David miliband and director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at columbia university, dr. Irwin redlener. When the pandemic started to hit the United States start, thousands of American Students abroad had a difficult choice to make. Catch the earliest flight home or stay and help fight the crisis . My thoughts were never to go home, even if i had the option, i wouldnt, especially knowing that i wanted to be able to help here. Ally knowing that i wanted to be able to help here youre in this alone. Were automatically refunding our customers a portion of their personal auto premiums. Were also offering flexible Payment Options for those whove been financially affected by the crisis. 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Joining me now is nbcs wilhelm marks in madrid, spain with a story about how an american medical student studying abroad spent her time during the pandemic. Hello, wilhelm . Reporter hey, ali. Thanks for having me on here. Really interestingly here, over the past six to seven weeks, spain has had incredibly stringent restrictions on peoples movements in response to those quite horrific fatality numbers. Last night, we heard from pedro sanchez, the prime minister, that next weekend, adults will be allowed out to exercise for the first time. Theyve really only been allowed to leave the house at the moment for food, medicine, or go to work, but it was that morning a lot of parents got their first moment of relief. A lot of kids had a huge amount of excitement leaving their home for the first time. They were allowed out for an hour within one kilometer, roughly three quarters of a mile from their home. We spent time with a few families chrng really enjthis m enjoying their chance to get out and ride their scooter. And we had the chance to talk to american of students who decided to stay here in spain. They had that very difficult decision to return home or remain in a foreign country. And one person we met who decided rather to return home, she decided to stay here in spain to help those most in need. I love madrid. My dad calls me the spaniard. I take my siestas, hes like, oh, the spaniards sleeping again, go wake her up. Reporter stacy is from cincinnati but spent the last seven years living in the capital of spain. Shes en route to work at a nearby nursing home. Today is a day we get to release people from quarantine. Reporter shell spend her afternoon, evening, and some of her night treating elderly patients with covid19. With 14,000 dead, ice rinks used as morgues, and Exhibition Centers transformed into furniture homes, coronavirus has hit madrid virus harder than most. One of her patients has succumbed to the disease. They were laying in these beds, i dont want to say half dead, but it was definitely scary. The other part of me clicked into action, what do i need to do . How do i help . Reporter stacy works as hard as any doctor, but shes actually a volunteer and still studies every morning. The lone american in a med school class of 270 spaniards. [ speaking Foreign Language ] reporter ahead of the lockdown here last month, her parents begged her back to ohio. She insisted on staying in spain and serving in the only way she knew how. My thoughts never were to go home. Even if i had the option, i wouldnt, especially knowing that i wanted to be able to help here. This is my passion, this is my career. I wouldnt run from it, ever. Reporter caring for others so far from home has taught her more about medicine than any classroom ever could. And clearly, a very selfless individual, but the other American Students we talked to over the course of this week, they all had very valid reasons for deciding to stay here, often taken in consultation with their parents. One had to stay and look at their cat and another didnt want to take the virus back to their pharmacist mother in kentucky. But all said they would like clarity about when things will return to normal and as students, when they can Start Building their future lives. Wilhelm, thanks very much for your reporting, as always. Nbcs wilhelm marks in madrid. Well, this pandemic is forcing so many teenagers to miss out on major milestones, canceled graduation, prom, sports, things like that, heres a letter from jennifer cot in mesa, arizona. She writes, my daughter, jaden, is a senior in high school. She was born days after 9 11 and is now graduating in the middle of a pandemic. They are telling her that her graduation will be virtual. She attends the Largest School district in arizona. The schools in arizona are trying their best to be creative for them. Every friday night at 2020 military time, they light up the football fields for them for 20 minutes and 20 seconds. Heres her senior picture. Its haunting and an eyeopening example of what this generation has dealt with. Thanks for sharing, jennifer. I want to hear more of your stories. Send us your pictures, your videos, and how you are coping in this pandemic to mystory velshi. Com. Its important to hold on to hope in take place liimes like hope is useful unless its paired with action. My next guest has a fivestep plan for the fight were in now. Jim yong kim joins me next. M yot the way it works best for you. Even the big stuff. You get a delivery experience you can always count on. You get your perfect find at a price to match on your schedule. You get free two day shipping on things that make your home feel like you wayfair. Way more than furniture. 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