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MSNBCW Velshi May 31, 2020

Reporter good morning, im ali velshi. A peaceful scene near minneapolis, not like last night where police took a hard line against protesters in dozens of cities across the United States. I am back here, by the way, in south minneapolis where all of this started on a burned out block. A sense of what youre looking at on the screen. These are just eight of the protests around new york last night and chicago, 3,000 people demonstrated burning at least one flag, climbing on to a chicago transit bus and a lightpole hurling bottles overturning police cars. In cleveland, a situation in which downtown storefronts were vandalized and multiple police cars set on fire. 10,000 protesters in l. A. With multiple lapd vehicles at an lapd kiosk set on fire, Luxury Stores looted and rodeo drive. Minneapolis, as you know, a lot of action here last night. Peaceful protesters interrupted by police. A reporter and a photographer hit by a rubber bullet and arrested. Other arrests during the course of the day. Two members of a reuters tv crew also arrested. New york saw a lot of action. Protesters marched from brooklyn to 14th street in lower manhattan, the other way around. Crossed the brooklyn bridge. They shut down the brooklyn lanes, and you could see people spraying graffiti, knocking over garbage cans. 15 Police Vehicles burned. 14 officers injured including a bike officer struck by an suv. Protests continued in washington, d. C. Where secret Service Agents were arrested and protests under way outside of the white house. That all continued, but what we do have here in in minneapolis at least is quiet. The police were determined last night to take back control of the streets, and part of that whole story starts here, because this was the focal point of the initial, the rallies and the meetings on tuesday night, on wednesday night. By thursday night, these fires were burning, and we were here showing them all to you all along this way, and when you go a block over there, you cant see it anymore, but its the the third precinct, the precinct involved in the death of george floyd, where those Police Officers were based. That was taken over. Led to a lot of tension, running battles between police and protesters with tear gas, rubber bullets, flash grenades. The swituation is very differen. Police made a point of saying they are taking back the city with the help of the National Guard and the state police. I bring in a reporter hes been on the story from the beginning. Brad, good to see you you were with Rachel Maddow as protesters took the station on thursday night. What do you make of what happened in the last few daysened why today lodays en and why minneapolis looks so different today . They credit the extra National Guard troops and their presence in disbursing the protesters and making sure they didnt get a chance to take a hold at any place and form large crowds. Weve seen a report that, some of my colleagues out last nice who witnessed tactics the National Guard were using to keep people spread apart, and basically blocking out of streets and keeping people from traveling to certain parts of the city. Governor walz yesterday, actually early this morning, also gave credit to the National Guard presence for keeping things a little quieter than previous nights. What do you what sense do you have of what effect this has had . Thursday night, protests about arresting Derek Chauvin, the one videotaped with his knee on georges neck, but then the protest began about arresting the other three men and became more broadly as Police Violence. Thats what spread around the country. Is this enough . Or do things have to happen before protesters decide theyre not going to continue to come out every evening . Ali, yesterday afternoon i was out at a protest staged outside by freemans office. Mike freeman, of course, is kind of a flashpoint for a lot of folks, because in past cases of minneapolis Police Officers killing civilians, hes not charged them, and so while some were glad one officer was charged with thirddegree murder, they are not going to be satisfied until those other three have been charged. Now, there is a concern as you can imagine that as the Legal Process goes on and the investigation is wrapped up with these other three officers, they may not be charged for murder. There may be some other charges that are lesser that get attached to their cases, and that may set off another set of protests, of people saying that, look, if i was one of these officers, if i was a person who was involved in the death of someone else, i would expect to be charged with murder or taking part in that murder. So the Police Officers, as you know, theres a different standard for what Police Officers, because they have authority to use lethal force when they feel that its necessary. So well just have to see what happens, but i can guess that folks will not be satisfied if those other three officers are not charged with some type of murder. Thanks for your reporting on this. Thanks for joining us again, today. A reporter with minneapolis public radio. I want to just tell you about a protest, i believe, i was going to ask my executive produce perp is this under way right now . Go to london, england. There have been protests over the last couple of days but there appears to be a protest under way now with maybe 1,000 people out there right now in london. This protest, because it is not just about these Police Officers, and this man george floyd, in minneapolis, but a larger question of authority, inequity, of socioeconomic inequity, of racism. These protests are spreading around the world and well continue to update you on what happened last night and what continues to happen in cities across the United States. I want to bring in representative hank johnson of georgia. A member of the Judiciary Committee and chairman of subcommittee on courts, intellectual property and the internet. And secretary of the congressional black caucus, the district, north and east of, north and east of atlanta. Congressman good to see you and thank you for being with us today. I want to read something you said about the riots. You said you support, the demonstrations, i should say, because they werent all riots. You support peaceful protests. Heartening to see diversity but provocateurs dont share protesters goals. Peaceful demonstrators should take pictures of law breakers destroying our cities, violence and Property Damage are not the answer. What do you make of what happened across country last night . Protests . Provocateurs . Vandals . What do you make from it . It was a little bit of everything in there, but i can tell you our young people are very frustrated, and they feel that they have no alternative but to take it to the streets, and they do that during the daytime and they do it at night. And its a reaction to the reality under which our people are living, and that is, we are under constant threat of Police Excessive use of force and oftentimes death. When you look at the statistics in this country of Police Shootings and Police Killings of civilians, even though we are 13 of the population in this country, we make up probably about half of the people who are killed every year by police, and its gotten to the point where our young people feel that they are in a state of war. They actually feel like its open season on black people in this country, and the statistics bear that out, and its just, it continues to happen, and anytime you have a killing as brazen as the one involving george floyd where the officers understand and know that they are being captured on video but yet they persist even after a pulse its announced theres no pulse in george floyd, and they still keep that officer kept his foot on mr. Floyds neck until he was dead, and he should pay the ultimate price, and, you know, when nothing happened. When this thing looked like he was going to be swept under the rug, just like all other, or many other cases involving police brutality, just gets swept under the rug, this time young people across the country werent having it and so they took to the streets, and the result is that we do have some provocateurs among us. There are some people whose motives are not the same. Theyre not interested in protesting for justice. Theyre interested in creating conditions for a race war. Theyre interested in anarchy in our society, and those are things that lawabiding citizens should not tolerate. You have worked hard in congress to put forward various pieces of legislation that would deal with this, including the Police Accountability act, which allowed the department of justice jurisdiction to bring charges, the grand jury formats, cooling off period, elimination act, stop militarizing Law Enforcement act. How much of this can be done at a federal level, versus what a lot of places like minneapolis and a lot of other cities say is a municipal problem . Its a municipal policing problem . Its the, in this case, the attorney and the county attorney for the county that said things all week unsatisfactory to people about bringing charges against this Police Officer . Is this a prop or an everywhere problem . Its a problem everywhere. Killings of black people are taking place across the country in various jurisdictions. Over 18,000 local jurisdictions in this country. 50 states. Each one of them chooses to deal with the issue of Police Accountability in a different way, and oftentimes, and most of the times, its ineffective for Holding Police accountable for what they do, and so the Police Accountability act, the grand jury format and the cooling off period elimination act as well as the stop militarizing Law Enforcement act, all of those put together would help to level the playing field. It would ensure that when federal dollars go to jurisdictions across the country for grants and that type of thing, that they be conditioned upon there being state laws in accordance with the federal practices or best practices that are established in those four pieces of legislation that i just named off. And so its clear that in order for there to be accountability, theres going to have to be a federal involvement, and a federal involvement has to do with making sure that states have laws reflect the values that we put in our federal legislation. Congressman, thank you for your time this morning. Hank johnson of georgia. I want to show you, by the way, this is the corner we were standing on this corner, thursday night. Actually. The liquor store burning just to my left. There were barricades here but a lot of protesters here. This i believe was a restaurant. Its been, feels like so many days ago we were here. Continuing to smolder. We dont know of burning fires this morning. I dont see smoke in the sky at the moment. This is continuing to smolder. S they this fire set on thursday or friday. I want to bring in a black lives matter activist and brittany, thank you for being with us right now. Campaign zero is a campaign to have this never happen again. The frustration of the protesters with whom ive been speaking for the last couple of nights goes well beyond the charging of Derek Chauvin and well beyond the request to charge the three remaining officers and goes well beyond george floyd. In fact, so many of these protesters made a point of saying peoples names and talked about the names of people who died as a result of Police Violence or extra judicial killings and the names go on and they go on and they go on. Not even recent history, think about the last three week. What has to change, brittany . The frustration of the people, theres no justification for what you see behind me and the destruction of personal property, and there was hol g n hooliganism, no question. How do we convince people this should change and change it so that it actually does change . Youre absolutely right. A list of names is longer than we can count. I remember my friend randy gloss made a shirt of names back in 2014 after Michael Brown and the ferguson uprising. Frankly, there is not enough room on a shirt to contain all of the names you not just in the last six years but throughout history lost to systemic race age and s foibled searching their hearts. They need to search their policies. At Campaign Zero we have a project called the support project and have discovered there are eight simple actions that Police Departments can take to change their use of force policies specifically to reduce Police Killings by up to 70 . This doesnt take an act of congress. This doesnt take a president s tweet or executive order. Doesnt even take a vote by the city council. All it takes is a Willing Police chief and mayor to get together saying theyre going to implement these eight changes in their use of force policies and those eight absolutely cannot wait. We continue to see folks give us thoughts and prayers instead of actually search their actions and change the things that are well within their control. So your question, ali, youre right. This is about more than george floyd and more than breonna taylor. This is about so many of the names and the feeling of fear that people walk around with that should not be allowed in this country. The question is, what are we going to do in this moment . If unprecedented times call for unprecedented imagination that is on us. Time for white people to help and those color to get involved in this businesses and lives that lives matter more than merchandise. Time for elected officials to stop searching their hearts but search their policies. Time for police to stop telling us this is just the way it is and making cuexcuses how slow the rate of change is. Donations to black organizations are great, symbolic gestures are fine but nowhere near enough. Even calls and emails to local officials about a single case of a good step, but, ali, you and i both know this is not about one case. This is about hundreds of years of america having its foot on the neck of black people. So until the laws change, and until the people who enforce the laws change, and every nonblack neighbor becomes actively antiracist every day, the protests may end but the crisis will not. We have to be more concerned with justice than we are with this. Brittany picket cunningham. Thank you. And talking to a man studying coronavirus and trying to get a vaccine long before any of us knew what coronavirus was. On the other side, the race for a vaccine. Youre watching msnbc. 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A lot of promises made particularly from this administration about a vaccine ap at first by end of year and now promises around the time of the election in november. Not likely to happen, although great if it did. We thought wed have a conversation about the race for a vaccine. Where do we stand on this . I bring into the conversation someone i started having a conversation with a few months ago. Doctor, youve become familiar with him or read some of his stuff. The doctor is dean of the National School of tropical medicals at Baylor College of medicine. Hes currently working on a vaccine. This isnt new to you, doctor. You have been thinking about and trying to get funding for and working on a vaccine for coronavirus for a long time. That was unsuccessful in the past. Why . Well, first of all, ali, i just want to say glad to see youre doing okay. My wife and i were talking about you last night and worried about you. So good to see you this morning. Thank you, sir. You know thank you. 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