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MSNBCW Velshi July 3, 2024

We are in this is a mountain village, were about 30 miles east of the epicenter. And throughout this village, ali, there are houses completely destroyed and there are some like this one you can see behind me, partially collapsed, in danger of falling down. The family who lives here has spent two nights on the street, because they do not know if they can go back into that building, whether the roof is going to come down at them at any time. This is a village of 3000 people, the locals tell us at least 40 have been killed in the quake. So ali, that is more than 1 of the population that have lost their lives here. Among them, is the wife and the two daughters of a man we met a little earlier deeper in the town. He was at the graveyard, saying he doesnt know what hes going to live for anymore, having lost his family. They are part of a growing National Death toll, as you said, that cracked above 2000 earlier on today. And, ali, the Rescue Effort is treacherously complicated. The destruction is not concentrated in one area, instead it is spread through rural villages like this. And to get to them, you have to pass as we did earlier today, through winding, narrow roads. Many of which are blocked by boulders, by rockslides. And yet for all of that, the Rescue Operation continues. We have been seeing professional rescue teams here, turkish and italian teams, but ali, many of the people here are just locals. They are by hand, by patient hand, sifting through the rubble. Trying to save the lives of their neighbors. We are still in whats known as that golden window, the 72hour period when rescuers say they have the best chance of saving people. And yesterday, here, they actually did succeed in pulling one person out from underneath the rubble of the house. That is giving them hope that there may be more survivors. The thing they say they need most is heavy equipment. Both to clear the roads and to clear the rubble. It is a very difficult, the moroccan government is doing everything they can. One thing theyre trying is getting helicopters up here to the mountains to safely evacuate those people who have been pulled out from underneath the rubble. Meanwhile, not just here in the villages but in the major cities, in marrakesh and casablanca, you have Tens Of Thousands of people who are sleeping on the streets. Either because their homes are damaged, or because they fear that their homes could collapse. Among them are a number of tourists, marrakesh is a world famous tourist destination. There are americans among them. We spoke to a young man from portland who spent one night on the street earlier. Ali, the u. S. Embassy says there are no reports at this time of any americans killed, but they do say there are a number of americans injured. International rescue teams are arriving from all corners at the moment. One team from qatar, one team from spain arrived earlier on today. Elie, i can tell you, in rural places like this, it is going to be years if not decades before they recover. All right, raf, im glad youre there. Thank you, stay on it for us and well come back to you. Rough centers in morocco, well check back with him later in the hour. Lets turn to the latest in domestic politics. By olympians is, this seemed like another ordinary weekend during election season, with president ial candidates hitting the Campaign Trail and making the rounds at Early Campaign states. But a fastmoving effort to bring into play one small clause in the constitution threatens to completely up end the race for the republican nomination. And, quite possibly, knock out the front runner. The twice Impeached Multi Indicted Insurrectionist Former president donald trump, one month ago, the idea that Section Three of the 14th Amendment could disqualify trump from Holding Public office again was mostly conjecture. Something mainly debated among the inner circles of legal scholars. But a paper published this summer by michael stokes, a pair of prominent conservative Law Professors and members of the federalist society, brought a new spark to the conversation. That paper quickly prompted two of the most revered legal minds of our time, the Harvard University Professor Emeritus colleague lawrence tribe, and the retired judge to write a widely read piece for the atlantic, titled the Constitution Prohibits Trump from ever being president again. Professor tribe and the judge appeared on this show at the time of that articles publication to discuss how Section Three of the 14th Amendment is socalled, self executed. And that due to his role in the january 6th insurrection, trump is ineligible to hold public office. Their interest meant of the idea gave the movement a jolt of momentum, and now, less than a month after their piece was published, a lawsuit has been filed in the State Of Colorado by the Government Watchdog Group crew, on behalf of six republican and unaffiliated voters, challenging trumps eligibility for the presidency. This might be the strongest case to emerge so far that could eventually force the courts to determine whether or not the former president is allowed to appear on the ballot for the upcoming president ial elections and primaries. And perhaps more importantly, it will force the courts to clarify the meaning of Section Three of the 14th Amendment, also known as the Disqualification Clause, which states, quote, no person shall be a senator or representative in congress or elector of president and Vice President , or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States or under any state who, having previously taken an oath to support the constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. Now, thats the liberal reading of it. But the exact meaning of the Disqualification Clause and how it can be applied in real life has largely been untested for the past 150 years, simply because there hasnt been an insurrection or anything resembling one in the United States during that period. That is, until donald trump came along and brought american democracy to the brink of collapse in his desperate attempt to stay in power. As recently as this past may, trump has vowed to pardon a large portion of convicted january 6th rioters, if he is elected president again. And in june, he even spoke at a fundraiser for january 6th defendants, which was held at his own golf club in bedminster, new jersey, and promised to make a contribution to their legal fund. Now, reasonable minds have reasonably concluded that trump himself, in sight of the january 6th insurrection, but there isnt a lot of legal precedent that can tell us definitively if the courts will undoubtedly get this case, will interpret it the same way. So, lets go right to the brains of the operation. Joining me now is one of the legal scholars who helped bring this question to the forefront, this election season. Lawrence tribe is a professor of constitutional law emeritus at Harvard University. Hes the author of several important books, including the influential legal text american constitutional law, which has been cited more often than any other legal text. Professor tribe, it is good to see you again. Thank you for being with us. This is a continuing conversation between us, because there is a great deal of complexity and a lot of movement and it. So, i want to ask you first of all, in a post on what used to be known as twitter, you wrote that the colorado lawsuit is, quote, the strongest of the suits filed to compel secretaries of state to apply the 14th Amendment Disqualification Clause to trump. The six plaintiffs clearly have standing under colorado law and ironclad legal and Factual Research backs up their complaint, and quote. Tell me why you believe this case is strong and stands apart from others . Thank you for inviting me back. Its an honor to be on your show. I think its the strongest because the elaborate complaint explains that they dont expect and your statement of opinion about trumps disqualification to remove him. What they are asking the court to do, the state court, where these plaintiffs clearly do have standing under a colorado law, is to conduct factual and legal hearings, involving all of the evidence that many of us have seen and some have not professor, i need to interrupt you. Im very sorry about this, professor tribe. The president has just started speaking. Lets drop into hanoi where President Biden is addressing the crowd. My administration and the previous Secretary Of State, who is here with me today, is working with american officials on long distance. Working expeditiously to ensure american citizens in morocco are safe, standing ready to provide any necessary assistance to the moroccan people from now, ill tell you the important visit here in vietnam. As the secretary night just shared earlier today, this trip has been a historic moment. Today we can face 50year arc of progress in the relationship between our nations, from conflict to normalization. This new elevated status will be a force for prosperity and security, when and one of the most consequential reasons in the world. Our cooperation directly to vietnamese highest tier of partnership when referred to as the comprehensive Strategic Partnership. The United States have strengthened our ties with another critical indopacific partner. Our progress today goes on with japan and the United States. Commerce is Teasing Partnership the engagement with Pacific Island are strength and alliances with the philippines and the partnership with australia and the united kingdom, are elevated engagement with india, our strategy in japan, and the end of Pacific Economic framework for prosperity. And all the efforts weve advanced from day one of my administration to demonstrate to our and oh Pacific Partners and to the world the United States is a pacific nation. And we are not going anywhere. Now, let me also speak to significant business we got done in india during the g20 summit. This was an important moment for the United States to demonstrate our little reassure, and our commitment to challenges that matter most to people around the world. Investing in inclusive growth and sustainable development. Addressing the climate crisis, strengthening Food Security and education. Advancing Global Health and health security. We showed up ready to work, and we showed the world that the United States is a partner with a positive vision for our shared future. As the g20, at the g20, we made progress on issues like multilateral development, bank reform to get to those nations that couldnt qualify before. Debt relief, and infrastructure needs. Not only in the global south but other parts of the world as well. We forged a groundbreaking new partnership with them that will connect india to europe with the middle east and israel, with Transportation By Rail and by shipment through an Energy Supplies and digital connections that are going to open up untold opportunities for transformative Economic Investment on that entire we have also discussed russias brutal and illegal war in ukraine. There was sufficient agreements in the room on the need for just and lasting peace that upholds the principles of the charter, and respect sovereignty and territorial integrity. I want to once again think Prime Minister modi for his leadership and his hospitality in hosting the g20. Hammon i have had substantial discussions about how we are going to continue to strengthen the partnership between india and the United States. Building on the Prime Ministers visits to the white house last june. And as i always do, i raise the important issue of respecting human rights, and the vital roar role of restoring a prosperous country with mr. Modi. And weve got a lot of important work done, and im looking forward to another good day tomorrow here in vietnam. And now, i will take your questions. They told me they gave me five people here. Pierre reuters. Hi, thank you for taking my question, mister president. Hi. Last week, china questioned the sincerity of the Biden Administration. Im sorry, the what . The sincerity. The sincerity of the Biden Administration . Of the Biden Administration. And accused the United States of containing china, while pushing for diplomatic ties. How would you respond to that, and do you think president xi is being sincere about getting the relationship back on track as he bans apple in china . Look, first of all, the, i am sincere about getting the relationship right. One of the things thats going on now is chinas beginning to change some of the rules of the game in Terms Of Trade and other issues. So, one of the things we talked about, for example, now talking about making sure no chinese, no one in the Chinese Government can use a western cell phone, those kinds of things. So, what this trip is about, its less about containing china, i dont want to contain china. I just want to make sure we have a relationship with china thats on the up enough, squared away, everyone knows what its all about. One of the ways you do that as you make sure were talking about the same things. I think one of the things weve done, i try to do, i talk with a number of my staff about this at the last six months, we have an opportunity to strengthen alliances around the world to maintain stability. Thats what this trip is all about, having india cooperate much more at the United States, be closer at the United States, vietnam being close with the United States, its not about containing china, its about having a stable base in the end of pacific. For example, when i was taking time, talking to president xi, he asked why i was going to have meeting australia, india, japan, United States. I said, to maintain stability. Its not isolating china, its about making sure the rules of the road, everything from airspace and in the ocean, the International Rules of the road, theyre abide by. And i hope that, i think that president xi has some difficulties right now. All countries have difficulties. Economic difficulties, working its way through. I want to see china succeed economically. I want to see it succeed by the rules. The next question was okay, this is an important conversation whats happening. The president is taking questions from reporters, warmongering that, by the way, we will stay with that. I gotta go back to my conversation with professor were gonna watch whats going on, those are two important visits the president has been on to the g20 in india. Noticeably absent russia and china from that. Now, he has gone on to vietnam as part of his push to create a greater american presence in asia, to counter that of china. That was an important question. What i was talking with my colleague about this later on in the show as well. I want to go back to professor laurence tribe. Im sorry for that interruption, very little would cause me to interrupt a discussion at the, ableism of the president talk what Global Affairs is probably one of those things. Lets just, for my viewers benefit, go back to that first question. This lawsuit has been violent colorado, the president and his team have tried to have it removed to federal court, and then went back, i think, two nights ago, said, this needs to stay in colorado. It seems like the president and his team have agreed that thats where he has to be. Why is this challenging colorado the important one . The reason, and i hate to imagine interrupting the president , i think this is terribly important, who the next president will be certainly depends, in part, on whos qualified to run. The qualifications include not having taken an oath to uphold the constitution and then timid insurrection against the constitution and the principles for which it stands. Colorado is a special place in that respect because unlike many other states, colorado has a specific statute which allows registered voters to take the Secretary Of State to court and demand that the Secretary Of State exclude anyone who doesnt meet all of the qualifications. Even at the primary stage. Of course, one of those qualifications is that you not have co

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