Collec collects. Reporter just in terms of new infections, its been five weeks since the new york on pause order. Yesterday we saw 8,000 new cases presumably because of heightened testing, but also 1300 people coming into the hospital. Do we have any demographics, any research on who is getting infected . Are these severalal workers . People being infected by family members . Do we know where people are getting sick if theyre staying home . We notice how many people come into a hospital, you know what hospital they go into and where that hospital is i dont know if you have demographic on herd data, do we have that . We dont. Basically locations based pop where they are hospitalized. Reporter we dont know where theyre getting sick, i guess, is the question. No. You know what hoptsds theyre going into. Assuming the hospital theyre going into is their is located near where they live, but you dont know where theyre getting sick, but they dont know where theyre getting sick either, by the way. You say, where did you contact the virus . Theyre not going to be able to answer. Eventually well have that data. Its aggregated now so we can present every day the hospitals patient data gets submitted on a much greater lag, but for us it was who is going to the hospital now so we can monitor the infection real time. The more democrat graphic data comes in, but much more slowly. That would be retrospective. This is why the Contact Tracing were going to do will be so helpful. When we start to talk to individuals well her about who they were explosioned to, perhaps somebody they were exposed to was in the hospital. Thats why it will be so important. Reporter do you think the department of health did enough leading up to this pandemic to ensure they had enough staff . We have addressed this we continue to reach out to the Nursing Homes. If there was any concern, we reached out to them. We did investigations. As i mentioned once before, we actually even did video checks to be sure they were doing everything correctly and we provided information they needed. As the governor said previously, a lot of the Nursing Homes, if there was a concern they needed to look into what supplies they needed. Reporter anything in general leading up to the pandemic clearly going into this there just werent enough people. Thats not clear. I did nursing home investigations as attorney general. Theres a constant tension with Nursing Homes. Any vent vendor to the state, t public, where theyre providing service and getting paid for the was services. We also did video cameras in patient rooms hidden video cameras, how many times was the staff coming in . Was the staff doing what they were supposed to do . Were they turning the patient . Et cetera. So this has been a field of regulation, scrutiny and investigation that goes back decades. Its a field that over when i look at the past have been quote unquote nursing home scandals in the past. So its a highly regulated, highly investigated field. Department of health, attorney general, its a big staple of what they do. This crisis overwhelmed the Nursing Homes, and when i say no one is to blame, look, you had a virus that preys on Vulnerable People, concentration of Vulnerable People in a nursing home. But the regulations still apply, right . Even though youre in the middle of a global pandemic. The regulations still apply. For the Nursing Homes, one of the central regulations is, if can you not provide appropriate care for that patient, you must transfer that patient, period. Thats the thats the rule. If you cant find a place to transfer, the department of health will find a place. That rule does not change. Now, you can say, well, look, i cant provide care because of this pandemic, my staff is owl ill, i cant get supplies, i dont have masks, because i cant quarantine properly. But if you cant provide care, youre not supposed to be keeping that person in your facility, period. Thats what most of this will come down do. Theyll do an Additional Investigation to see what happened, because there are other regulations. You have to inform patients and their family. Thats a regulation. I understand your staff was stressed and this was a horrendous period. That didnt waive enough regulations of good conduct of business. If were offering testing as pharmacies, why not offer the same thing at a nursing home . Weve done Nursing Homes can do testing, its local options, where we set up testing in other places, but 28 sites for firsting homes and expanding that by another 15. Were adding as much Testing Capacity as humanly possible. One more and im going to put on my mask and go hiking, hiking with a mask. By the way, i have a whole collection of really beautiful masks that have been sent to me from people all across the country. Mask art is a new, a nboutique specialization. Mask art. Reporter special elections last night in syracuse still to go . Do you legally i cant legally i cant affect a congressional race, a federal race. Is that right . Yeah, the law says that the governor may call a special election for the legislative races, but with the congressional its a shall. Thats why the one race that will remain a the difference between may and shall. All the difference in the world. Last question. Reporter you said you evaluating the onpause stand, would it also be in considering of reopening . You can anticipate anything youd like to anticipate. I do not control your anticipation level. So you can anticipate whatever youd like. Theyre not necessarily linked. So well make a decision at the right time, because people need notice, but i dont think theres any specific linkage between. Reporter certainly industries, construction, manufacturing and such might be opened prior to, say, retail or Mass Gatherings . Yep, yes, by definition nobodys going to say, okay, region x is opened and everything opens automatically. So the faced in timing, faced in activity level, remember we did that matrix . How essential is your business . Thats the matrix. Wear a mask. Wear a mask. Wear a mask. [ inaudible question ] theres nothing on [ inaudible question ] okay. Everyone, there you see andrew cuomo wrapping up his daily briefing. I wish all of you a very good day from the nbc World Headquarters here. Ten minutes past noon here in the east, ten minutes past 9 00 in the west. Welcome. To break down what we heard, dr. Kavita patel. Also nbc news science contributor joseph fier, and congressman max rose. He just finished a twoweek deployment to help with the coronavirus spongresponse in ne york. We applaud you, congressman. But ladies first, dr. Patel, theres sort of two sides to this. Yes, there needs to be an increase in the amount of Antibody Testing to see what gives, who has it, who does not, but then you have the w. H. O. Saying theres no definitive proof that having antibodies means you will not recontract coronavirus. Lets talk about that and your concerns. Absolutely. And furthermore, the andy body tests we have approved under the fdas emergency use operation are still very young in the sense that the reliability and kind of our ability to extract information from these tests is still pretty early. So Antibody Testing is absolutely an important part of the threelegged stool, if you will, to understanding a persons complete picture of having had corona, but the bigger question is, what does immunity mean . If anything, all it tells us is at some point they had the infection, which we also know is critical, but its not a Golden Ticket to return to work or to exit your house without social distancing or nonmedical masks. Joseph, is there a press didnt i guess were making an assumption that if you have an antibody. Are there other viruses there are many viruses that fall could the category. It would be spraying if you had no immunity after a successful recovery. Even with the seasonal influenza, against that particular strain, you will be immunized against that strain for some time to come. There was a Laboratory Study conducted in wuhan, in the same city where this virus originated. That was conducted in nonhuman primates. Thats what we use to model human disease. They were infected, fen they could not be reinfected. That would go along with our theory you would have at least some temporary immunity to this. However Laboratory Studies can play out differently. What we may see is not everyone is immune after recovering from covid19 infection or there may be no immunity at all. But we think there would be some temporal immunity lasting for some amount of time. And to some degree, joseph, it might mean a less severe verse if it were to come back in. Anything is assumable at this point. You know, it could be the dosage you got when you got infected yourself. In that case, presumably you would have a less severe disease. That being said, we have no documented cases of that. We also didnt have documented cases of children dies prior to the United States, so were seeing things unfold in the United States that we have not previously seen occur in other countries. That could be due to a number of variables. A number of things we have not seen until recently, which was note indeed the Washington Post, dr. Patel, which is young people dying of strokes, people in that you are 20s and 30s, as it relates to this disease. I mean, that is a theory, but some of these people did not even know they were sick. What do you think is behind this . Alex, its absolutely something that every clinician is pays close attention to, but we also have to look at the facts. These are small numbers. Its unclear if its an inflammatory response to the virus or if its the virus thats having an effect on areas such as the blood system, clotting disorders, et cetera. Instead of alarming the public, what is critical is that american doctors are now raising the bar for what theyre looking at and also thinking about systems very differently. Again to the point, young people are presenting with covid19 in ways we had not seen in Community Close also something unusual. But its too early to make a conclusion on what this means. Mistalk about whats behind this and if you think thus plausible . First of all, thats assuming once you get covid19 infection and recover that you are immune. And the whole idea of an immunity passport card comes from the yellow fever card, where you travel internationally wrap theres yellow fever, you have to have that passport card where you have immunized, with a seal of approval. So the problem with covid19, one, we dont know if it makes you immune, and then two, we have no idea how long that immunity lasts. That being said, if you have something that said you have had it and have recovered, that does improve your chances of getting milder disease in the fall or not getting it at all. Okay. I want to bring in congressman max rose. First of all, well done on the two weeks that you served with the national guard. Tell me what you were doing here in new york city. Sure. As you served there . Thank you so much for having me. Look, anything that i did and i say this humbly, pales in comparesing to the service that i saw. We were tasked with the mission of standing up a temporary covidonly facility under the leadership of the governor preicu and posticu, part of the critical everly to build out capacity for covid patients, which has to be the top of our list, as we consider opening up this economy. It was soldiers working alongside medical professionals. I will just tell you this, because were all looking for optimism during these incredibly arduous times. During that last huddle before seeing the first our first patient, we had the men and women in uniform, the fighting 69th infarntry regiment applauding the men and women of our frontline medical professionals in their own uniform. That gave me the confidence i need that we will get through this. A somewhat fiery speech you gave on the house floor with regard to that which was encompassed in this most recent relief bill. You found a couple things that were lacking. Lets have our viewers take a listen. Only in washington, d. C. Would we wait week when we all agree. But lets move forward, because our frontline workers right now cannot afford for us to stand by for politics. Leader mcconnell said to our cities and states, he told them to drop dead. Well, why dont we put politics aside, rise up and tell him that we put the country first. Specifically speaker there to it Senate Leader mcconnell. Its also something that Governor Cuomo was addressing. Is this all about politics right now . Well, lets look at what Mitch Mcconnell said, when he said to our states and localities, you might as well go bankrupt. First of all, incredibly immoral and cold to tell our cops and our firemen and our nurses, our bus drivers who are on the front lines right now, who we call essential workers, for all intents and purposes, to drop dead, because youre going to lose your job no matter how much we need you. It was also incredibly inequitable,al at a time when new york has spent bills onupon bills onthrough the federal government to Mitch Mcconnells home state money we do not give back. We have a giver state, one that does not receive more money, for mcconnell to say that is blindly ignorant. But lets not forget about what Mitch Mcconnell just said is incredibly stupid. At a moment where consumer demand is going down as a consequence tax revenue is going down, confidence in our economy is going down, to allow for our cities and states to go bankrupt, will hit the market in ways that we cannot even understand at this point. So Mitch Mcconnell was being immoral, ignorant and stupid with one comment, but we tried to do the same thing with the Victims Compensation fund when we wanted to be there for 9 11 First Responders. Who know how much this will cost, i dont know if we can do it. Thousands upon thousands of First Responders from across the country, went down to washington, d. C. , advocated, fought, and we beat Mitch Mcconnell. Were going to beat him again and well get that aid to states and lots. It reminds me of listening to Governor Cuomo making a ruckus on there as well. I think he identified kentucky as the state that takes the third greatest amount of federal funding with regard to new york state being a giver state. He was echoing your sentiments there. I do want to talk to you about the funding for the paycheck protection program. I know, sir, you are calling on four major banks to prioritize the truly Small Businesses do that over the large corporations. Can you guarantee thats going to get done . Absolutely. Look, we are balancing two really urgent matters here. One is we get to get this capital out very quickly to our businesses that are in need. If we entered into some time of legislative analysis, paralysis, and waited a few months to make this perfect, by the time we got the capital out, these businesses would no longer exist and their workers would certainly by on unemployment, at the best. So we have to get this money out. But we also have to make sure it gets to the area in need. That requires that these entities that we are using as intermediaries, most especially the large banks, it requires that they be fair and judicious partners here, not just allocate the money to those who have the best work relationships with, not just allocate the money to those who are the best capitalized. They have to play this role and in my letter im certainly calling on them to play that role. I have too many Small Businesses on Staten Island that havent necessarily borrowed ink credible amounts of money, but still have a banking relationship, and they deserve their fair share. Great way to start this hour. I want to thank all of you. I appreciate all your voices in the conversation. Thank you. Well, fours states have begun reopening businesses and ending some social distancing guidelines, including the state of georgia, reporting nearly 900 deaths with at least 22,000 cases so far. The state has faced scrutiny with the partial reopening that began yesterday. Sam brock joins me from marietta, georgia. I suspect there are mixed feelings about the relaxed rules. What are you seeing . Reporter there is no question there are mixed feelings, just based on what we have seen in terms of whats opening and whats not open. We have gong to salons, spas, barber shops. Im here at a gym right now. I would say most of the places ive been to have been closed so far, though a lot of folks are really excited about the fact they can get inside where its getting their haircut or being able to work out under countries that are safe and sanitary. You see the open sign right here. The owner tells me its kind of a mom jawed pop gym, now at Major National franchise, but that makes it more there are masks available if you need that, a Temperature Check as well. You have a thermometer if the customer requires it, and all with marching orders, is if youre coming in, you have to watch down the equipment and look around me, and youll see its not a packed gym. They always maintain at least six feet of distance. Those are the sorts of rules being adhered to right now that make it possible for a small gym to be able to open right now. Heres the owner talking about what this process has been like. I usually dont see more than a half dozen. One day i had nine people. For the most part through the day i never have very many people. More controllable environment . It really is. Thats when when the governor opened the doors for gyms and everything, i thought about that. I thought logistically, i know how to make this happen. Reporter alex, there are others states that are weighing this. Theres been so much conversation about georgia, but w