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MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt September 20, 2020

Members to keep their powder dry for the time being if they dont think a vote should move forward. But in a statement here is what senator murkowski said. She said that she did not support taking up a nominee eight months before the 2016 election to fill the vacancy created by justice is scalia, we are now even closer to the 2020 election, less than two months out and i believe the same standards must apply. And so she joined Susan Collins of maine who came out yesterday and also said that the person who wins the election on november 3rd should decide who the next nominee is. But what is clear, alex, is that it is two republicans. They need at least four for this process to stop from moving forward. There is 53 republicans in the senate and they need four to block anything from going forward. So what is also clear is that the battle lines are completely drawn. We heard from republicans and democrats on the the sunday shows this morning outlining their arguments. Lets take a listen to senator Amy Klobuchar followed by ted cruz and how they outlined it. Lets watch. Everything is on the line here. Health care is on the line. I think my republican colleagues are the one, they have to decide based on what they said before, they set this new precedent in the last, in 2016, and theyve got to follow their own words. We need a full court on election day given the very high likelihood that were going to see litigation that goes to the court. We need a Supreme Court that could give a definitive answer for the country. Reporter so you saw the differences in how they are playing out their arguments. The democrats are going to try to use republican words against them from when they refused to entertain president obamas nominee in 2016. Now senator ted cruz said there needs to be a full court on election day. Well in 2016 there was not a full court on election day back then. Now, there is could they even with the timing get a nominee done before election day . Well, most recently nominees have taken about 60, 70 or more days to get confirmed from the time that they were nominated. Well there is only 44 days until election day. So if Mitch Mcconnell can get that through, it is going to be a very high task. It is unclear at this point if hes able to do it. But it sounds like hes going to try, alex. Im keeping an eye on alexander and roberts, both of whom are retiringch these are two that are institutionalists when it comes to the senate, both because of the timing in an Election Year voting against merrick garland. So i think there is a lot of scrutiny. They dont have anything to lose politically, right. Those are two were watching and watching mit rt romney who s bucked the president and others in tough reelections too. They need four. Could they get there . Well be watching. Thank you. Right now joe biden is on the way to philadelphia pd and set to speak there in less than an hour. Mike mem olie is in philadelphia for us. Welcome to you. What do we expect to hear from the former Vice President. Reporter well weve been talking about this president ial race for two years now talking about joe biden as the democratic nominee for months now. Nothing like a Supreme Court vacancy to shake up this president ial race with just a few weeks left. Well hear the former Vice President this afternoon in the heart of a battleground state here in pennsylvania making his case for why he sees this vacancy as critical. Because of the issue you were just talking about with leigh ann, on the ballot with the Supreme Court, the Biden Campaign argument is much of what we heard from the former Vice President when he was campaigning in the midterm elections with swing district democrats who ended up winning races and putting democrats in the majority. The message two years ago was we need a Democratic House to protect against the Trump Administration efforts to undercut the Affordable Care act and now it is you need a democrat in the white house who could appoint justices to stand up and defend the Affordable Care act. This is a winning message then and they believe now. And now joe biden is not a stranger to the Supreme Court battles. He was on the Judiciary Committee for 36 years and the chairman of that committee for eight years, the top democrat beyond that. And he was a key advise tore president obama as he named three potential nominees, only two of them confirmed. So this is terrain that the former Vice President is very comfortable fighting the campaign on. Now he doesnt control the strategy on the hill in terms of what democrats could do to block a vote either before or just after the election, but hes going to do everything he can and take the message on the campaign trail this week, alex. Hes leaving philadelphia today and will be in wisconsin tomorrow and obviously a state that a lot of attention on and then his running mate, kamala harris, shell have a key role and traveling to michigan on tuesday, alex. Already a big day for the former Vice President. He was already at church i understand at 7 30 a. M. This morning so hes been up and adam for a while and well look forward to an hour as well. Youll be there as well. Thank you, mike. And both senators on both sides of the aisle making their cases of whether a nominee for President Trump should be considered. When i came to the senate, it was understand senators kept their word. Lindsey graham gave a solemn word there would not be any movement on a Supreme Court nominee this close to the election. I am sorry to see him breaking his word. I hope hell think about that and go back and keep his word. If the shoe were on the other foot, and the democrats had the white house and the senate, they would right now be trying to confirm another member of the Supreme Court. You dont know that. What theyre proposing is completely consistent, completely consistent with the precedent. Now to the campaign trail with 44 days into the election. President trump telling supporters in North Carolina he intends to name a replacement as early as this week. I will be putting forth a nominee next week. It will be a woman. Meantime as biden heads to philadelphia, he picked up a major endorsement from the detroit free press. As a nbc wuls journal report shows it is unchanged after a tumu tumultuous month and 11 are still up for grabs. Lets dig into the numbers with nbcs Josh Lederman at the white house with us. Biden leading among different demographics. Walk you tlus through the numbe. Reporter the good news is the numbers nationally, when you look at overall top lines, as you mentioned seem to be unchanged. That biden lead seems to be helding steady closer to the election. Even with all of the tumult of the last several months. But when you break down the numbers deeper, you start to see where some of those strengths are and particularly where some of trumps problems are and they tend to be with the same type of voters he had problem with years ago. And with black voters, you see massive advantage for joe biden. 90 of black voters prefer him over President Trump. Similarly with women. You see biden with a 20point spread, 57 of women saying they prefer the former Vice President over President Trump. Biden also holding an advantage when it comes to the critical independent voters, that every campaign is always going so hard after. Biden with a sixpoint advantage currently over trump when it comes to independents. And when you look at white voters with College Degrees and you see biden leading 54 to 41 . And there are strengths for President Trump that were picking up in the poll. And they tend to be with that core base, that really supported his candidacy and sent him to the white house last time. If you look at all white voters in the u. S. In the new follow, you see trump leading with that group 52 to 43 for joe biden. Similar to the edge that we saw president had with white voters in 2016. Similarly with men, the president leading with five points over joe biden. And then you look at white voters who dont have College Degrees, again a key trump constituency and a sizable lead there, more than a 20 point advantage over joe biden. And then when you break this down by age, alex, you start to see joe biden with support at the low eer and highest end of e age spectrum. So the Vice President leading with Younger Voters ages 18 to 34 by 60 points to only 31 for President Trump. And then when you look at senior citizens, you also see biden with a much smaller but still notable advantage. The Vice President leading there 50 to 46 . Senior voters a very motivated group that tends to show up to the polls. Well have to see whether that advantage that the Vice President has with Younger Voters is going to be able to help him in the election because we know the Younger Voters, they tend not to vote with as much frequency but it is possible that with everything going on and now the Supreme Court vacancy, we could see a more enthused younger electorot according to the new poll would help joe biden. I get guess to synopsis, it appear to be middleaged white men without College Degrees if you put all of that together. Joe biden tends to be leading by a bit in the other categories. Okay, josh, thank you for that. Im joined by madeline dean, a democratic member of the judiciary and Financial Services committee. Thank you for joining me again. Let me ask you as we talk about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. What went through your mind when you heard about her death, as someone who practiced law before joining congress. Ive got to think she had an impact on youond your life. Well, thank you for being with me and thank you for kofrpikofr covering this staggering loss. In a year of losses, the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a staggering loss for our court and our entire country. What impressed me as the justice served her life, she was a role model for me. A middleaged woman with a law degree and the chance to practice law. She was a role model for service and integrity and using nur intellect for the good, for all, for the many, for the marginalized. So she was a great role model to me. But my phone kept ringing with a news of the her death from young women. That is what i think is so impressive. Young in my office, my coworkers in my office are crushed by the loss of justicin ginsburg. My own daughtersinlaw. So i think about her as a role model for women up and down the generations including my gra granddaughters but louisiana for men as well. I couldnt agree with you more. This moment became politicized and the president and Senate Majority leader may try to push through a confirmation before election day. It is clear though that the court works bet we are nine justices serving this jucountry. But is it as clear on the timing of Justice Ginsburg replacement. I found it strange and undignified that within an hour of the announcement of her passing Mitch Mcconnell was saying they would put forth a nominee and voting on it before the election cycle. She was a woman of dignity. She last wish, her fer vent wish was that she not be replaced until after the election and a new president or this president reinstalled. Whatever it is. The hypocrisy coming from the senators is just staggering and undignified. It was Mitch Mcconnell who in 2016 said let the people have a voice. When there was a vacancy ten months before the election. He also said he was proud to look in president Barack Obamas eyes and say he would block his nomination. That is not something to be proud of so i hope cooler heads will reveil that two or more republican senators will come forward and say this will be incredible political and the court should not be an institution that is a political arm just as the senate should not be a political arm for this president. But that seems to be what Mitch Mcconnell has decided to do. Well, youve heard the news today. Just in this last hour that now there are two with Lisa Murkowski said she will not support that and following Susan Collins as well. There may be more. But here is one possible scenario put forth to nancy pelosi this morning. Take a listen to this. Some have mentioned the possibility if they try to push through a nominee in a lameduck session that you and the house could move to impeach President Trump or attorney general barr as a way of stalling and preventing the senate from acting on this nomination . Well, we have our options. We have arrows in our quiver. But to be clear youre not taking any arrows out of your quiver, you are noft ruling anything out. When we weigh the equities of protecting our democracy, it requires us to use every arrow in our quiver. What is your thoughts on that and how many options do you and your colleagues have . I do believe we have many options and i think the speaker is wise to say well take no option off the table. Look at what happened overnight. Nearly 100 million was raised through act blue for democratic causes and democratic candidates. The peoples voice will be heard on election day. I think that is the way to go. And then in the meantime we in congress have many things that well have to do rebuild our country, to rebuild trust in our institutions. To rebuild trust in elected officials. I think of it this year, we lost congressman john lewis, his work is unfinished and now weve lost Ruth Bader Ginsburg, her work is unfinished. So it is up to we the people as well as the congress to make sure that we rebuild our appreciate democracy and take it back from the hands of those like President Trump and attorney general barr who are using the presidency entirely for personal, political gain. It is a very sad and scary time for our democracy. But i think our elections will save us from that. I wan to turn to attorney general bill barr. Because he made several headlines last week. And lets play for what you said about concerns that the president would attempt to remain in office even if he loses november election. Take a look at this. You know, liberals project. You know the president is going to stay in office and seize power and all of that ive never heard of that crap. And im the attorney. I would think i would have heard about it, okay. Theyre projecting. What is your response to that and what is your reaction to all that weve heard from the attorney general this past week . Well, how about his entire ten youre as attorney general. The attorney general has no credibility. He poured it away in buktds n buckets. Those words came from the same man who ordered the clearing of protesters in Lafayette Square using force against peaceful protester in Lafayette Square to clear it so the president could go over with a borrowed bible and take a photo on in front of the church. So the attorney general has no credibility. The other thing we have to look to is the president s own words. It was the president himself who months ago said he might not accept the outcome of the election. 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