Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20201122 : vi

MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt November 22, 2020

Good day, everyone. From msnbc headquarters here in new york, welcome to weekends with alex witt. Were going to bring you up to date now. Covid infections are spreading in six days before thanksgiving. Dr. Fauci reiterating his plea to stay home this holiday. Take a moment to do what i call a risk benefit determination. If i have someone in my home who is elderly, someone who has an underlying condition, do i really want to put that person at risk from someone who innocently or inadvertently could infect them . The head of the government Vaccination Distribution Program said the first doses could be given out by december 12. The vaccine will be distributed to states within 24 hours of fda approval. The fda granted emergency use authorization of the antibody treatment given to the president last month. It has shown to keep the severity of an infection low if admin ste administered early. And three states, north dakota, montana and iowa have enacted statewide mask mandates. Scott kohn is in San Francisco, Valerie Castro is in ohio and Lindsay Reiser in new york city. Lindsay, well start with you at la guardia airport. How many do you get a sense of people traveling despite the warning to stay at home. Reporter sometimes theres periods where no one is in line, but then you do have times like this where there are plenty of people waiting to check their bags. Nationwide, 944,000 people traveled yesterday, more than a million on friday. These are levels we havent seen since the pandemic really started, since march 16 when the white house came out with their 15 days to stop the spread. The cdc is urging people to stay home and thats because the u. S. Has 12 million cases. Health experts are worried that people will be going from state to state, and theyll potentially be crosscontaminating here, although so many states are deep red when you look at those coronavirus heat maps. But the cdc says if you do have to travel, you need to make sure youre wearing a mask, try to keep socially distant at airports like this, also make sure you bring hand sanitizer, make sure you wash your hands a lot, and try to get your flu shot before you go. But i still tried to talk to travelers about why theyre traveling despite those warnings and heres what one man told me. Im not too nervous. Everyone has a mask and they follow the rules, mostly. Ill follow the rules and take them for better or worse. Reporter that man is going to hawaii to see his family for the thanksgiving holiday. He said they discussed it and said it was a risk they were willing to take. In dallas, you have to take a test. Another woman who said she was traveling said you cannot barricade in your house. She said its a choice that everyone has to make, but right now she is not choosing fear, she is choosing to live her life. Alex, were not seeing the scenes were seeing in some areas across the country. In some airports like oharoha youre seeing walltowall people. Were not seeing that here, alex. Somewhere i heard if you land and dont have a test, you have to quarantine. Lets go to ohio where the Cleveland Clinic says almost a thousand Health Care Workers there are sick with coronavirus. The statewide total now more than 343,000 cases. Nbcs Valerie Castro is live outside the Cleveland Clinic for us. Valerie, what are you hearing from those workers . Its got to be a really sad state of things. Reporter it certainly is, alex, and as you can imagine, they are tired and also frustrated. They say not only are they at risk of catching the coronavirus here at the hospital where they work, they are also at risk in their own communities. When they go to a Grocery Store and someone isnt wearing a mask, that puts them at risk. The nearly 1,000 workers here at the Cleveland Clinic, that is a mix of both who are infected and those who were exposed and have to quarantine, of course. Thats a twoweek process and really puts a strain on the hospital. The Ohio Administration says 20 of hospitals across the state are reporting staffing shortages, and with numbers going up in every single county, 88 counties here in ohio, they cannot borrow one Health Care Worker for another Health Care Facility because theyre all dealing with this problem. We talked to kristin england who is an Infectious Disease doctor. I asked her what surprises her most over the last few weeks, and she said what surprises her is people are still planning large family gatherings for the thanksgiving holiday, 20, 30 people, and she said shes shocked people are still doing that and not heeding the warnings. Heres what she had to say. I cant get people to understand enough how dangerous this is. Ill say to my patients, use me as an excuse. Tell me your doctor said you cannot come. If you dont want to offend your inlaws, if you dont want to make your mother upset, i get that. But this is not the time to worry about that. Again, use me as an excuse. Tell them your doctor said no. Reporter she says another way to think about your decisions is think about the five people that are closest to you mother, father, siblings, grandparents. Think about the people that you really care about and what decisions are you going to make to make sure they are safe, not only through this Holiday Season but so you are able to see them the next Holiday Season . Alex. Something we all need to hear repeated over and over. Valerie castro, thank you for that. Right now thousands of people in california are rushing to get tested before the holiday. Lets go to nbcs scott kohn. Hes in San Francisco, one of the busiest testing sites in that area. Scott, how many people are waiting to get tested . Reporter its not bad, alex. Theyre making appointments here, and by the time you get into the line by our sort of unscientific observation, its about 15 minutes by the time you get up there and get tested. In this site alone, they expect to test upwards of 2,000 people a day or roughly a third of what theyre doing citywide in a city thats really been on the forefront of getting this testing done. And they are still turning these tests around pretty fast. Theyre saying 24 to 48 hours for results even though there is this surge of testing with the increase of cases and, of course, people getting tested ahead of thanksgiving. Its that last part, thats what has officials concerned. Our actions now will dictate what happens this winter. Do not gather, especially indoors. And do not use testing to determine whether you can travel or visit with people outside of your immediate household. Remember, and i cant emphasize this enough, people who test negative can still harbor the virus if they are earlier in their infection, or if they are exposed to the virus after the test. Reporter San Francisco has done pretty well at staying ahead of the curve throughout this epidemic, but it is kind of a tsunami effect now where were seeing case rates go up, not only among communities of color but throughout the city. Thats an issue. And they are now saying that its only a matter of time, potentially, in the next couple of days before San Francisco moves into the more restrictive tier thats engulfed much of california that subjects you to these socalled curfews, limited activity after 10 00 at night. That, of course, is not universally popular. Weve seen the protests go on in summit, california, in san jose and protests in front of Gavin Newsoms house, the governor, up near sacramento. As california looks at case levels that are the worst that they have been throughout this pandemic, theyre trying to stay ahead of it. Its a daytoday thing, if not hour to hour, alex. Joining me now, dr. Lipi roy. We said today immunizations could be happening by december 12. What do you think of that timeline . Possible . Anything is possible. Alex, its so good to see you. Happy sunday. The timelintimelines, theyre sy december they may have a first batch ready to go for the first phase of people, including Health Care Workers, and theyll phase it out after that based on cdc guidelines. Well see. As we know, over the past several months with this pandemic, the federal government has made several promises with the timelines, but im beginning to trust what these manufacturers are saying, because theyre working very closely with the cdc in terms of timelines. If we have people being immunized four weeks from now or so, midmonth, how many people will actually be getting the shot at that point . Health care workers, those are underlying conditions, are they going to have to seek out a vaccine, or do they get identified beforehand somehow and get it first . These are great questions, alex, and the short answer is all of this still needs to be worked out. These are all the detailed yet critical nuance of details that need to be sorted out. The actual distribution, who is going to get it and how, and the allocation, in other words, the number of doses that each state gets will be is determined by policymakers, its not by Health Care Workers or hospital executives, its actually policymakers who decide, and if a state gets 500,000 or 5 million, thats going to then determine what kind of Storage Space and then distribution. And, of course, which nursing care home workers, which nursing home residents . Tleez all considered vulnerable populations. These details are being looked at while we speak, alex. You saw lindsay at the crowded airport across the country. How concerned are you at the number of people not following that advice . Alex, according to the cdc website, over this past week there have been 1 million infections, covid19 cases in the united states, in this past week alone. The cdc says that the safest way the best way to keep yourself safe is really to stay home with the people that you live with. Avoid travel. If you absolutely must travel, definitely wear a mask, and i would even suggest wearing a face shield, especially if youre going to be in crowded, poorly ventilated spaces such as crowded airplanes, trains and buses, and they also recommend, you know, the people that should not be traveling or should not be attending inperson gatherings are those who have or either have been exposed to covid19 or those who are at risk for severe disease, such as the elderly or those with underlying conditions, alex. Understandably so. To your point it took eight months to get to 11 million cases in this country, one week to add one more million cases. That is so amazing, to say the least. Dr. Lipi roy, thank you very much. It looks like the government will not help trumps election get overturned, but one Family Member has an idea. Will it work . Thats next. Member has an idea will it work thats next. The daytime coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever, power through your day medicine. The coronavirus isnt waiting. The economy isnt waiting. America shouldnt have to wait, either. The American People have spoken. The result is clear. Its time to move forward. And get to work. Beautiful. But when i started cobra kai, the lack of control over my business made me a little intense. But now i practice a different philosophy. Quickbooks helps me get paid, manage cash flow, and run payroll. And now im back on top. With koala kai. Hey more mercy. Save over 30 hours a month with intuit quickbooks. 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Reporter primarily, alex, were hearing the same thing we were hearing about two weeks ago which is any pessimism about any of these challenges in the court will have any effect at preventing president elect joe biden from taking office in january. And the competence of the legal team now working on President Trumps case, Rudy Giuliani and others, tossing t ithe federal tossing them out of court and not really showing up with any evidence the judge said they should come with for making allegations of widespread fraud and irregularities in pennsylvania. Still the president s team adhering to their message that this thing is not over, alex, and there is still some chance left. Thats why you see comments from Vice President penceie kwif indica indica equiv equivocating, saying it will not affect the outcome of the election. The president encouraging now state legislatures to get involved, to put aside the will of voters and change their states elect toors and have protrump electors. How far do you think the campaign will go . Will it go to state legislators . Its a possibility. Weve been putting lawsuits across the country in states where we feel like there was really egregious violations of peoples rights and the way this election process played out, and were open to anything. Reporter that would be an unprecedented move, alex, that would run into all kinds of legal hurdles, other challenges and criticism from people who would say that is simply overturning the will of the voters. Were seeing more and more outside republican voices starting to encourage the president to move on, to acknowledge the results of this election and to cooperate with that transition. Okay, josh letterman, thank you so much for that. Tomorrow michigans board of canvassers is said to meet to certify the state results, but it has been met with controversy. President elect joe biden won the battleground state by more than 150,000 votes. Much like he has in other states, the president challenged that. That was promptly dropped. And the traump campaign filed a lawsuit for michigan to drop the votes to him. I want to get to michigan in just a second, but id like to get your reaction to what you just heard, that the Trump Campaign is suggesting they might go after electors in individual states to overturn the will of the people. Would that spark a constitution crisis . Of course. It is perfectly unlawful for voters in states, and all of the states have passed laws that say the electors have to be sent to washington based upon the popular vote in that state. It is unlufl for that to happen. And as with the other 36 cases that have been brought by the Trump Administration in these various states, there would be a lawsuit, and this one they would lose because the law is very clear. Im glad you straightened that out. Lets go back to michigan, because i know before that meeting with the lawmakers took place, you tweeted this. You said, this is not just crazy. Its potentially a crime. Id turn the plane around. Or wear a wire. Its a crime for someone to interfere with the duties of somebody who is in elected office to intentionally interfere. This interference is up to a year in prison. Can i just mention this, that the two republicans on the board of canvassers, on monday, are both subject to not just criminal penalties, and if i were the attorney general today, i would certainly be looking into this, but also the president reaching into these states to overturn the will of the people. If youre trying to overturn the states votes, you have criminal violation, you have civil rights violations. Why have an election if you can have canvassers who just decide they dont like the outcome . It is unlawful. One way to look at it, the lawmakers, after meeting with donald trump, said they saw nothing to overturn bidens win, but then you have this, chair Robert Mcdaniel and vp chair lauren cox, they are calling on election counters to wait for two weeks and allow an investigation into potential voter fraud. What are the odds that the michigan gop gets the audit . The michigan gop who control the state Legislature Passed a law in 2018 saying that the audit occurs after certification. The role of these members of the state board of canvasers, is, quote, athey shall receive the votes of 2020 and they shall tally them up. It is simply math. When the state Legislature Passed a law saying the audit occurs after the count, not before. They have no discretion to do other things. If they decide not to delay, which is outside, im certain there would be a lawsuit taken to the michigan stacourt of appeals. And im sure michigan would order them to do their job and certify. There is no question here. Rnc chair Ronna Romney Mcdaniel i use the name romney there because it is a prominent michigan name. She is from michigan. She surely is very familiar with all these laws. What is her angle in this . This president simply wants to delay and deny the validity of this election in order to behi hinder the incoming president. There is no there there. Every court has recognized it. It is simply a way to delay the inevitable so they have the time to discredit an election that they lost. This is what. The previous republican governors of michigan have both called on michigan to do their job and certify the election. There are other republicans around the country including, of course, mitt romney, who has also said the same. This is over no supporting a president who. Acting as a petulant child, but doing so without destroying democracy. So what happens in michigan tomorrow . If they decide to go outside the boundaries of law, there will be a suit in michigan. Whether that is today or tomorrow, this will be resolved. I hope its resolved in a way to make sure that the members of the board of canvassers are not putting themselves in legal jeopardy. They

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