Have ever seen before. Seriously, is there anyone more inspiring than Michelle Obama . She and the president have been such wonderful friends to me and my family. Its meant the world, the world to me. If people wonder, yes, Hillary Clinton is my friend. I admire and respect hillary. She has been a lawyer, a law professor, first lady of arkansas, first lady of the united states, a u. S. Senator, secretary of state. Thats right. Hillary doesnt play. She has more experience and exposure to the presidency than any candidate in our lifetime. Yes, more than barack. More than bill. So, she is absolutely ready to be commander in chief on day one. And yes, she happens to be a woman. Meanwhile, in springfield, ohio, donald trump held his own rally, backdropped by several women for trump signs. But it was his wife, melania, who stole the show in several shows that aired this morning. Melania defended her husband, and dismissed the women who have accused him of sexual assault. There were lies, and as i said before, all the accusations, they should be handled in a court of law. To accuse somebody of without evidence, its very hurtful and its very damaging and unfair. And honestly, but do we still need to talk about that . I think American People need to hear the problems that we have in america. Shes so right about that. Shes so right about that. They want to hear what we are do to make america better. Lets talk about jobs. Lets talk about secure our border. Thats what American People want to what do you need prayer for, if you will . Thats what we say in evangelical world . Well, we always say health. Health is the most important, because you have health, you can keep going, keep fighting, and do the best for the people of america. Mark, weve been saying for months that drrp has to improve his standing with women, to have any chance whatsoever of winning the white house. At this moment, given all things, where do those efforts stand . Well, today, the Michelle Obama appearance is going to dominate. Shes been out on the trail some, but not a lot. And some of them appearing today. Since this summer, donald trump has cut the gap to some extent nationally on some states with Hillary Clinton. But mostly, thats as republican women come home, but not enough. I think if Hillary Clinton continues on trajectory shes on, despite donald trump talking occasionally abo occasionally about child care. Despite melania coming out, the combination of the Clinton Campaigns relen lows focus on female voters and the access Hollywood Tape is going to leave donald trump with unless something dramatic changes a very big gap with women that will make it mathematically impossible for him to win. Well, there are longterm questions here about the republican brand, damage being done to it. We can talk about Newt Gingrich and megyn kelly the other night, various things that are going on. Im actually somewhat surprised. I went back and looked at the exit polls from 2012, where barack obama beat mitt romney by 11 points, 5544 with women. Hillary clinton is up by 13 with women. Hillary clinton up by 15. Bloomberg, up by 14. Thats actually surprisingly shes not doing substantially better than barack obama did. Again, barack obama won the election and Hillary Clinton is doing better with women. But im surprised the floor has not fallen out more from donald trump women given everything thats happened. Over the summer, he was more like 20 points down. So some of that has come back. If you look back at the Trump Campaigns arc and their aspirations to appeal to women, africanamericans, hispanics, their efforts were so slow in starting, so haphazard, and he is the going to, if he loses, leave a legacy of, no blueprint whatsoever, except in a negative sense, of how a Republican Party at the president ial level can do better. Also, hes going to leave a legacy which again gets to Newt Gingrich and megyn kelly, where he has put his surrogates in a horrible position, where they have had to defend him from charges that are largely credible, only because he admitted on the tape that he does these kind of things to women. They had to defend him. And that tape will play for a long time and hurt the Republican Party, i think with theyll have to do a lot of rebuilding to what he said about giving an attaboy to Newt Gingrich the other day, was, incredible. Inexplicable. Republicans are calling ate bombshell memo. Another wikileaks disclosure giving fresh ammunition to claims of impropriety in clinton world. Or as doug band calls it, bill clinton ink. The 2011 message banned an adviser to the Clinton Foundation appears to describe a system that generated a lot of money for the clintons. According to the memo, toercorpe clients made big charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation, while at the same time, hiring bill clinton to the tune of millions of dollars in speaking fees and consulting gigs. Those deals also included, quote, inkind services for the president s family, for personal travel, hospitality, vacation, and the like. Today, at an ohio rally, donald trump addressed these emails directly and he minced no words. The more emails wikileaks releases, the more lies between the Clinton Foundation, the secretary of states office, and the clintons personal finances. They all get blurred. Just today, we read about clinton confidant, doug brand, bragging that he had funneled tens of millions of dollars to bill clinton ink, through the foundation donations, paid speeches, and consulting contracts. Mr. Band called the arrangement unorthodox. The rest of us call it outright corrupt. Theres another email from wikileaks disclosure that people are talking about today. A lot of republicans. This one is from 2014. It appears to show doug band setting up a meeting between a tenio client and john podesta. Then he was a white house senior adviser. Hes now, of course, chair of Hillary Clintons campaign. All of this feeds into a paytoplay narrative, that the Clinton Campaign has been desperately trying to shut down in the closing days ever be election day. So, john, how will this description of clinton world and these latest emails operate about how the Clinton Foundation and clinton world operated play with voters between now and election day . Let me say at the outset, that i have always thought, much more so than Hillary Clintons emails, that the nexus of money, the philanthropic work, and potentially, potentially, policy, more areas of real concern politically for the clintons, going as we move forward. And these emails describe a messy, ugly, seedy, skeezy bunch of business. Theres no getting around that. It is the case that trumps a horrible messenger on this issue because of the problems with the Trump Foundation. And because the Trump Foundation is at least as corrupt if not more corrupt. And theres also the piece that i speculated might be shown, which has not been, and that is that any of this has influenced policy in any way. So those two things undercut this as a potent issue. And its also awfully late. Its late and i think most voters who think who hear about this and process it think, yeah, thats the way it operates. We should say, this is the way a lot of political families operate in government. The difference is the scale and the fact its the clintons and now that we have the descriptions of whats gob on. But there are plenty of people in washington who arrange meetings for contributors all the time. I think the danger here is, if theres another disclosure. The press have kind of become innurred to the daily release of the wikileaks badges. We still dont know if Julian Assange and others have a plan to maybe drop Something Big later. The russians plan to send something over late. Some clinton people said last week, hell, they made a mistake. They released so much stuff early on, it wasnt that big a deal. The press doesnt care anymore. The press is primed to read these every day and to try to look for things. If theres a big thing, it will get a big hearing. Yes, but although, with the clock ticking, im not giving Julian Assange advice, but if you were really going to drop a bombshell he may not know about early voting. You might want to not wait until the day before the election do they do early voting in australia . Or in iceland . Any of the various places that Julian Assange is associated with . Look, again, there is a lot of to criticize here. Theres a lot the Clinton Foundation has done thats very good. Theres a lot to criticize. But it still remains very remote from the lives of real people. And Hillary Clintons name hasnt come up much, at all. Thats important. But wait, theres more. Much, much more to say about the campaign duet debut of Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama. Well bring in two reporters on the clinton beat to help us with that after this quake break. Something new has rived. Uniquely dignefor the driven. Inoducing the firstever infiniti qx30 crossove visit your local infit retailer today. Infiniti. Empower the drive. Intercom the library [ kis now closing. ] ok kid, closing up. Goodnight. The hardest part about homework shouldnt be figuring out where to do it. Through internet essentials, comcast has connected over 3 Million People in need to lowcost internet at home. Welcome to a brighter future. Comcast. I know are there are some folks out there who have commented that its been unprecedented for a sitting first lady to be so actively engaged in a president ial campaign. And that may be true, but whats also true is that this is truly an unprecedented election. And thats why im out here. That was, of course, more of Michelle Obama, the star of Hillary Clintons rally today, in north carolina, making a joint appearance, former and current first lady, joining us now, one of the best reporters in the business, ann guerin, Political Correspondent for the washington post. She is in the nations capital. Whatd you think of the body language . I remember back in 2008, bill clinton and barack obama did one event together, in the general election, and the body language was not all that warm. Seemed pretty warm to me, today. Yeah, it was. I mean, they came out together, not totally, you know, in the classic clinton arminarm pose that you would see maybe with a Vice President , but very, you know, close together and michelle bop maobama made a poi saying that she considers clinton a friend. That was, in some ways, a nod to the perception that they do not have a particularly close relationship. Its certainly true that they dont have an enormous amount of experience with one another and that their relationship wasnt so great eight years ago, in the aftermath of the 2008 election. It has grown considerably deeper and warmer since and i thought Michelle Obama really had substantiative things to say today about what she thought clinton could do as president , that go beyond a standard, one democrat endorsing another kind of stump speech. Anne, i think one of the big stories of 2016 is the just undeniable reality that Michelle Obama is now the biggest star of the democratic party. Shes performing at a level even higher than her husband. But shes not out as often as her husband, whos doing a lot of campaign right now. How much will we see of her between now and election day . A fair amount. Surprisingly, a large amount, even by the Clinton Campaigns expectations. They will tell you, they are surprised that Michelle Obama wants to do as much as she is volunteering to do, and they say they are not pressuring her to do more, but that, in fact, she came to them with a number of proposals about things that she wanted to talk about, including todays event, as a sidebyside with Hillary Clinton. I think one data point that is telling is that they booked a really, really big venue today. Its a stadium that in some configurations, can seat 14,000 people, the way it was figured today, it seats fewer than that. And that there was a capacity crowd of about 11,000, according to the fire marshal. That is more than twice the size of really any of the any but the very, very two tor three largest clinton rallies weve seen all years. Crowd sizes in at recent rallies, and i mean, we are two weeks from the election. Crowd sizes at recent rallies have been more in the 1,700, 2,500, maybe 3,000 range. Certainly not 11,000. I want to switch over and talk about the wikileaks and the doug band disclosures. Jennifer palmieri was on nbc earlier today. And no matter what Chris Jansing asked her, she basically said, the russians. The russians. This was done by the russians. Do you get the sense they plan to keep that up basically as their answer for the next two weeks, or is something going to force their happened . They dont think something is going to force their hand, yet. It certainly appears that with 12 days left, they think they can gut it out by just continually saying, this is stolen property. By the way, it was stolen by the russians, and has anybody taken a good, hard look at Donald Trumps connection to the russians. All good questions, all valid points, but completely beside the point, to the really mounting pile of dirty laundry that we see in these emails. Notably, they do not dispute the authenticity of these emails. They simply wont confirm it. Anne, its interesting to point out today that donald trump again went out and sang Donald Trumps praises on the campaign trail, giving the Clinton Campaign a little bit of a gift there. At what extent is campaign full yay aware . Have they begun through all of the emails, know whag assange has so they can be prepared . Well, god, youd ophope so, right . Just to know what the potential trove is thats out there. One thing we really dont know from the outside is exactly when it was clear to the campaign that this material had been stolen and exactly how much they knew about the size and scope of that theft. Podesta, apparently, never deleted anything. He had many, many years of emails stored in his gmail. So, with one apparently, one hack, the whoever did it, was able to go back many years, spanning podestas time out of government, at the white house, and as he was the chairman in waiting of the campaign. So its an awful lot that was eck posed there. And you have to think that the Clinton Campaign and lawyers have been, you know, going through that, for months. We knew that they knew that there was a risk out there. We just didnt know exactly where what it was. And we talked about it earlier. But id love to hear you enunciate. Weve seen weeks and days and days of these emails come out. The batch today produced front page stories about the New York Times. What was it about that banned memo that you think caused people to make a bigger deal than most of the previous emails . Well, it drew a lot of lines that weve really only seen the traces of before. It drew them quite explicitly. And beyond that, here you have doug band, once one of bill clintons most loyal and trusted, closest aides, appearing to point fingers at the boss, right, at bill clinton, saying, look, you know, how come youre saying that i shouldnt be doing some of these overlapping, having some of this overlapping business in charitable relationships. Some of these, when bill clinton has far more than i do, and has even greater exposure if you consider it a risk, he has greater exposure than i do. Thats a fairly extraordinary thing for someone in his position. And frankly, who owed his position, to bill clinton, to say. And one interesting aspect of it, i think, raised the profile of it, and caused us to write about it in the detail we did, is that, you know, here you see john podesta, trying to tamp this down a little bit and saying, hey, cool it a little bit. I dont think thats quite the language you want to use. And band is saying, oh, no, that is exactly what i want to say and i want to definite myself. All right. Anne gearan, thank you very much. We talk more about russia and the future of cyberwarfare, right after this. Ive never been 1 in ything until i put ese bies on. Now were a winning strea anim never king them off. Do i kw where im going . Absolutely. Were going to the playoff. Anim never king them off. 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