Ah, [000 00 00;00] ah. Hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered on peter labelle. Kevin, its western backers got some truly bad news. Last week, Amnesty International says ukraines fighting tactics endanger civilians, zalinski and his gang are not the innocent victims media claim. Plus, we hear a lot about a big offensive soon. Well, will it be ukrainian, or russian . Ah, hes got these issues bad more. Im joined by my guess, jordan some you only in budapest, hes a podcast or at the guy which can be found on youtube and locals. And here in moscow, we have to meet 3, bob and shes a political analyst and editor. And you know, its me, internet media project or gentleman cross top rules. And that means you can jump anytime you want. And i always appreciate it, right . Start out as me can government was very disappointed with the International Reports and claiming that the, the be grading, are you using violating the rules of law of war and, and could be potentially being is war crimes and then, and the Fee International bought back and said you know, after all the criticism, because if you criticize the government, its a mirror i can to being an apologist the racist transpose just about anything you can imagine. Oh, limits here. But if youve been borrowing independent media, the claims that the internet, maybe weve known this from day one, its not a surprise whatsoever. What is a surprise . Is that a western n g . I would have the courage to actually say the truth, your thoughts . Oh, thats right, let me know if crane has been a liberals war, which means that not only do we have on one side and the it was a big thing when you have absolute evil on one side. Absolutely good on the other. And of course, one side is the victim of and im just divided unprovoked. What was that to say a fact . And so when amnesty comes along, as you say, the to stuff that weve known from stuff which is that you bring in forces have been using as military bases, schools and hospitals. Then that of course, calls this whole equation to question. So thats why the most furious onslaught has come from liberal Media Outlets such as the guardian, which you naturally give highlight all the stories from Ukrainian Government official includes the American British government of it actually. Now since this is a very poorly researched report, the am, is the people on the ground . No, absolutely nothing but a saying, well, weve known all along, theyre using schools and hospitals for what reason, in order to draw retaliatory fire and why do they want to draw retaliatory fire so that they can then point to rushes, asking, making all kinds of media. And the rest of the plate along the left repeating ad nauseam that the russians are committing walk crimes when and we know that they deliberately, i mean this is when they deliver to them plenty of other places where they could have had a military basis. Instead, they went to school when that school was destroyed, they moved to another school to get when one hospital to just read them to another. And this is, these are the places where they want to look for. So naturally, when this equation russians are actually evil or absolute go is shatter, then all hell breaks loose. It with every passing day, the reality of infringing upon the propaganda. This is the most propagandistic war weve ever seen in our life. I thought youre right about this is much worse. And so just have been, you know, the when the curtains pulled back, you see a very different reality. And thats why these people, their hair gets on fire because youre not supposed to say that youre not supposed to even think these kinds of things. But its like i said with george and said here is that this has been very well documented if you really want to know and the international didnt just come across something unusual, came across something thats very common place. Unfortunately, i had, well, this is the most frustrating thing about this, all the Russian Media and excuse me, the local media in us. They have been reporting about these thousands of thousands of times during the fight in, in march, during the fight. And in several years, they all was the ukrainian force us keep using came to god both and schools while they are military bases. And there was blank food each and there was 0 dash and back to that in the west. So the me of the more tried to be and is that if you want to attract attention to your death, to the risks of your life, you will have to go to these people groups because i can see that these people, hypocrites, you know why i saw they are press one, for instance, in more school you the mind is thousands into 1000 times. To be frank with you, you know that the language used by Amnesty International, a. Baltimore and change not about the way it was very keep go. I mean, i dont like these people, i have heard of their egypt language that they use, but they are the only ones who can attract attention. The was just doesnt b a r theyre going to say, well, dont believe its a bonus. So the only way you can attract attention is by wanting to these people, and this is not the 1st time you know, Human Rights Watch in 2014 report that the use of class can munitions by the gradient forces. Im closure. 2014 Ukrainian Government was use class to munitions. This is from Human Rights Watch. This is against the was a war and may amount to crimes. This was documented at least 14 times in the nav. This was documented by the international committee, their growth was killed in october, a use of cost of munitions. So i remember when this report came out, how the western media try to crash it up. You know, of course, you know, people who dont, yes, were very enthusiastic about it because of jesus for the 1st time, the less than a day stay, you know, and i was, i was out and, and the media, there was a lot of criticism. And as you know, Human Rights Watch, just like Amnesty International, had to balance it, you know, with a lot of reports on, you know, crimes committed by the other side. So, i mean for me, the most frustrating thing is that this is something, this is something obvious. Something that you dont have to be a specialist to see if you see them anywhere in the grade and all the international. Finally, reports of the, the, some of the bait and mr. Zelinski gets angry. And the head of the Amnesty International, ukrainian euro ok song because you suddenly leaves saying that her code them use correct up to be different from the Amnesty International values. Now, you know, you need about themselves, and the mediately she has to resign because jesus, they dont know what is the software or russian speakers. All thing was, you know, you know that george, i mean, i guess its kind of an interesting juxtaposition, you know, being on the cover of vogue magazine and Amnesty International. I guess you kind of get your pick as it were here. But thats just the point. You know, isnt it, i mean, its not, you know, the, the suffering of the p and it, all people suffer on the ground going wars. Ok, lets be honest about that. Ok, but i mean, this western media propaganda page, you know, i mean, how many times if you know, weve seen situations like this that they make it on the cover of vogue magazine. I mean, theyre really scraping the bottom of the barrel, arent a of course, i didnt do zalinski any good at all because that was even too much for the biggest fan. But theyre going to go back to the sea into these International Humanitarian organizations. They are part of the western Propaganda Machine because they are there to demonize the foe of the day. You know, whether its that i was saying in the ninetys it was a loss of h a r b a. Its only right. Yes. The rest of the check is that right, these are both of these people are actually most of the commit walker. And if you look at how these Organizations Fund themselves, they are a lot of very wealthy people for some nation, george soros and others, you know, give them huge amounts of money. I mean, these are lavishly funded organizations. The people who are on the boards of these organizations, all former politicians, for government officials, for intelligence agency. And im the, you know, this is part of the, you know, reputation. But occasionally they want to balance things. And so lets say 10 reports that Human Rights Watch publish is about the horrors the russians are treated. Once they might Say Something about negative, about what the gradient just 10 versus one. But even that one publication. And thats all it all hell breaks loose. Ready and then theres an immediate attack saying, you know what, this is, you know, you dont know what youre talking about. Youre drawing equivalence between wrestles and victims and often happens. They need to have to start backing away now. So im listening to just run by this guy, a mug hasnt done so, and she does have a certain reputation because she was the person who wrote that report about the assassination of your a general. So the money and she said that was essentially a war crime. So she, she hasnt backed away as yet, but i think that would be further repercussions with, well, keep an eye on it. And then it was a lonely call in the words about why dont we investigate ukraines all the guards again, everyone you know, runs in shivering. You know, you cant do that, you know . Because, you know, we still have more and more money being bored in. We dont know where its going, nobody really knows where its going. We dont know who has all the codes and all of that, but it seems to be disappearing. I mean, but no investigation of people that have no criminal history. Go ahead. Well again, ok, here you are, the, so you police it, this use of language. Why dont we investigate ukrainian oligarchs . Why dont you investigate american already got, you know what the, what all of our is it is. You know, its just, it became effective if you dont like somebody who is rich, you human only got right. And this is the only way this machine can operate in the west. I mean, people are very rich and theyre very unlike book they can work together. I mean, im sorry, 2 minds meals starting soviet union. Someone who yesterday was a respect the official like you guys are in tomorrow because the paper, school deviation, you know, and left is deviation for right is deviation. Suddenly he becomes a criminal and anything can be used to get, you know, the same story here. And then when george said, you know, this is the one, its not even 10 to one thats 100 to one and steel. These people cannot tolerate any criticism. Again, it reminds me all of that times of the soviet union and the lord in favor of todays west, because look in 1962, a soviet magazine, more with me are published. These are these gro was walked by Alexander Silver newton, one day the wife was denise it, and immediately, you know, why did people believe people only then believe in started to repress us because the saw me, its a saw me magazine. The song integrity stayed on us about it. I will continue our discussion on real estate. Ah ah ah ah, with ah welcome back across stock were all things are considered. Im peter labelle. This is the home addition to remind you were discussing some realtors. I ok, go back to go to change gears a little bit here. Weve heard through official media, Corporate Media that the trainings came in. Theyre getting a 1000000. 00 man army together and theres going to be a big fan. So i think there may be in a pen, so this mom, i tend to doubt its going to be the ukranian one, but i have the theory about it and its kind of going to tell us what we said in the 1st part of the program. This is actually a fundraising event. This is that, you know, their fund raising, you know, were going to get it offensive to get there. You know, if we need support, we need money more, more money, more money. And thats what it, it seems to me thats kind of like a powerpoint presentation. You know, theres a band because from what i can tell me if im wrong, they havent really had one significant strategic, tactical, big 3 in all of this. Go ahead. Yeah, i completely, i mean i think that the ukrainians a. Ready government essentially trying to get more money out of the United States and, and theyre doing it by going on about how they get amount this huge offensive. And, and, and its something that works because right away the media report this on the upcoming events. That if you really are planning and offensive, the one thing you dont do is you dont publicize it, you know, you dont tell your opponents, youre about to attack them and then get them to move their forces and be ready for your offensive. I mean, that makes absolutely no military sense whatsoever. Yeah. The media report series. Yes. Upcoming events. And then once the russians defeated, then Hope Campaign will be after. And yes, and sure enough by just another 1000000000. 00 worth of and im you offensive and thats the way they need to maintain the stance that theyre somehow on the brink of winning this war. Because otherwise, leave americans and everyone else are going to solve the question, wheres this going . How can we go on essentially depleting our own cameras on sending them weapons . We dont know where, whats happening to these weapons. They dont seem to be any good because you know, the moment we sent you 1000000000 dollars worth of weapons from somebody, we need another 1000000000 dollars for what is happening. So they have to keep doing this in order to keep those channels going indefinitely. If the giving money seems to be an excuse for everything, ok, money will solve everything. But considering over the past few months, the amount of western arms in monetary it hasnt had any impact whatsoever. So throw more money at it. You know, this is something that is really hard to comprehend. I personally think most of my personal opinion is that the campers in there, theyre just trying to see if they get as much as they possibly can before they have their moment of reckoning. Ok. And so we, i make reference to the afghan president with his helicopters leaving the country. You get my point as well. I think this is a disaster situation where we are now control for money, corrupt officials in your grade. And we have people in the United States who basically failed with all of their predictors. But of course you in charge of saying and weapons and money. You know, just last week the drum press reminded us, or mark me, you know, the joint chiefs of staff just 2 weeks before there are some special reason to begin. He predicted that there be a war, it would last for 72 hours. The russians would take even 72 hours and then there would be a long, protracted gorilla fight. You know, everything happened bank 100 percent different. You know, the Ukranian Army was not able to get paid, but i get, it continues to fight. But there is no good re, were all on the 3rd to the Pressure Control for a very simple reason. The Ukrainian Army is fine so well precisely because of the crew to the regime. If you dont go to the army, you get arrested. You go to prison, if you Say Something against the government. Now, you know, look, a member of the shaking chemo your crate was, was a, basically a session, a video shot dead by the great insecurity force on the suspicion on the suspicion or the trail. So basically these are very poorly, the army fights on the terror to switch this regime controls when this really leaves, like on the 3rd, youre going boss of that. There are some people leave completely different life and try to forget, you know, about this regime. They wont be afraid to come back. Thats true. Theyre freight. They will come back, but there is no reasonable. Its not again, its that, you know, the problem with the United States is that it fights was, it starts in so many parts of the world. But finally these people get confused, you know, they confuse against them from. Ready green yugoslavia, vietnam and the other things. So about answering your question because they plan on these words from the same air Condition Office in a suburb a thats a sad reality. Yes. But basically what is really dangerous, its not just the loss of money. Its that danger or escalation and in that sense, there was a pretty interesting article in the economist last week, which was headline, what would push the way russia to nuclear war. And basically, the goal is that he saw the change in a few years of the states. You know, when all of the predictions failed and will be, became a war of 2 armies. Suddenly the United States review its position and starting from april, they started sending very dangerous weapons right in since june, the position is not to not to let you grade loops, were not going to it. Ok, you know, like we dont want to bring to win because obviously the goals which as you know, they dont really, you want all the time to back. And she speaks about a striking at russia. The less the says, oh, we dont support that, but we dont want to grade to those. Thats a very broad definition. I mean, they use a military strategy. Thats a, its not a political strategy neither. So is there an article and they want to just answer with a very good quote that i would use here on the quote to shannon, an economist who sent that blonde into what is not a shop agent leave. But one can stand firmly look down and decide whether or not to punch or rather its a slippery slope. And no one can be sure when the risk is the greatest, you just slide down without notice. And how it looks like a basically a wall between russian april. Ok. Well thats a really modern milli. Has some other issues. Ok, i suppose you would want to fight. You know, george, everyone knows that ukraine for a while has been wishing to get into nato. Its part of their constitution after all. And then, you know, after the conflict started, they made a desperate attempt to get into the you. But on both accounts, you know, the respective