A move that results in thousands of civilian casualties. Cards bearing 33000 lives was in the conference room. Thousands takes to the street to turn around in support of palestine. Is the civilian debt tolling dollars. That is going even high end for those, the headlines keeping up to date with the main news from across the world. We will have the full bullets in for you at the top of the next hour until benefits we talked about with costs to the hello and welcome to cross software. All things are considered on Peter Lavelle staring into the abyss. Israels genocidal assault on guys is dangerously just stabilizing the entire middle east. It is readily apparent to these railways are spoiling for a major war with many of its neighbors. And the plan is to have the United States fight israels enemies, the crossing palestine. Im joined by my guess, lionel in new york, he is a legal and media analyst, and in riverdale, we have sam who say he is an independent journalist, are totally across our rules in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciated. So let me go to you 1st here. So theres so many things to talk about simultaneously. Right now, we have the, the deliberate attack on aid workers from the world, the central kitchen. We have the attack on the rainy and console it in damascus. We have the defense minister of israel, threatening very openly, very clearly about a possible, a new front of lebanon, obviously, fighting as the law. And meanwhile, the United States keeps giving israel a pass every, in every sense possible. One of the things is becoming very apparent also is watching state Department Officials approach the press and even even the people that want act or practice acts as journalism. The see them kind of, there was, there was a staring into space like they cant believe what theyre hearing. They dont have the courage enough to push back yet. But there was something in the or how do you explain the moment. Were in sam. And i think that this is the combination of a long designed um, uh, setup parameters that between the us and is ro to bludgeon the palestinians. October 7th, was simply the pretext for the tendency that as well as long as the ultimately genocidal project turned into ethnically cleanse of the palestinian people. Um, barton is attempt no parts of the truth of this have gotten to the us public biden is attempting to distance himself from this establishment. Media which enabled this are attempting to distance themselves from this the international community. And in spite of the efforts of south africa, the International Court of justice has not no reason to the k. It is not implementing International Law and the international. Its a so called International Criminal court is obviously a corrupted ruins. Um, i think the next step that needs to happen, in addition to internal domestic us politics attempting to address things is for other nations to go and use uniting for peace. Because the us has blocked anything at the General Assembly of the united nations. Because the us has blocked anything and everything meaningful as a Security Council. They finally abstained on a resolution for a ceasefire some only 2 weeks and then immediately undermined it by saying its non binding. This has been an attempt to facilitate and indeed participate in genocide through them through by the us establishment of the us government. The rest of the nations of the world need to use every mechanism possible including uniting for peace, which is the way that the the us initiated this to, to facilitate the korean war. And to address the c west crisis in 1956 and again as and for the General Assembly to step in and effectively seize control over the situation. When a member of the Security Council refuses to allow International Law to be applied to a situation. So countries from brazil to russia, to china, to out your area, to the palestinians. Me so i need to step up and do that as the next step and to, to increase the costs to these are always, you know, a line. Oh, i think they, they offer to phrase, there is the cost of the United States because israel will continue to do what it does because it knows there is no red lines for its great paid for in the United States. But as sam is pointed out here, i mean in the United States, is this not complicit . So i mean, it is the engineer of whats going on here in the world knows that, i mean israel may not care that its a pariah in the world. But the United States, most americans would not want to think of themselves that way, but that is a reality thats coming into being final i, i asked the question, what set of facts will it take for either the entire world or the United States to finally say all right, thats an, thats an, this is this, this is are not. And when, when people started to mentioned the word genocide, never feeder, when we 1st started to do this, people were very reluctant. Yep. And it was, and i would say the problem that we have with the word genocide is because it, it conjures in peoples mind kind of a colloquial version of what it means of categories of world war 2. But, but person with the statute. Ok, ive changed my way of thinking. We need a stronger word because its beyond that, but theres not only is it what is statutorily genocide, but it is the aging of bedding counseling, procuring hires in our accomplish statutes in the laws of my husband. Im a lawyer when you are an accomplice, is that the you are a principal in the 1st degree you are as guilty as any one else. If you facilitate aid and abet this and i dont want to jump our, our a subject matter today, but we, but, but this week im thinking maybe maybe theres a light at the end of the tunnel with this horrible attack on jose andrews and these workers and why do i want to tell people . And i want to scream, im very happy people are paying attention to where they are, how have you been helped . Thank you. Thank you for noticing this. Thank you. But these were, these are 3 con, was, or 33 just horrible. But were talking about 30000. 00 people were talking starvation as levels but, but, but if thats what it is, if thats what it takes about trying to figure out what it takes for to finally get a reaction. Because i think were almost like our souls are like press b cs. We dont feel them anymore. We have phantom pain where we used to have a conscience. We used to remember, we used to feel now. Now were, were going through the motions. Maybe somethings happening. Maybe something will happen, especially as the the alleged has come about. But, but i, im telling you, gentlemen, i, i live in a parallel universe. I asked the question, be using just the facts. Being instrument rated irrespective of the parties involved, what will it take for every and women and child to say its an app. And yeah, its, its really, its am, its, its really interesting line that brings up a really good point. Obviously, the attack on this con, by the world central kitchen comm boy was just exasperating. I mean, it was, it was ever methodically done. But if you look at the, the western reaction to it or aid workers were killed, but they didnt really fill out the space, you know, because there is a, a famine going on because there is starve ation going on here. And it takes the death of, of the 7 workers, god bless themselves and their families for the world to be aware that what about the last 10000. 00 people that were killed and gods, but we still werent the western world. This still does not want to see the real victims of all of this here, that they the, the death of the aid workers. Maybe a made people open their eyes for a 2nd, but it doesnt give the attention why, where they killed. Okay, were not the, its net thats never in the 1st 3 paragraphs, sam. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, whats business article is not simply the killing of those aid workers and others with the group. Its been beside apple since october 7. They have no, no, nothing, no electricity. The genocidal intent has been. They are from the start and whats offered and you know, they went after tribal leaders or distributing food they went, asked our owner was the day that the south africa went to the International Court of justice as well to accelerate their genocidal intent by going after the wonder was saying that they were involved in october 7th. He was obviously a prop, again, deployed from the beginning just like the heavy ab stuff was a prop, again, deployed from the beginning. And then what did they, they bought or we find out, they tortured that information out of people. Its fines all the way down. A tortured false, confessions out of people to say that one rule was involved in, in october 7th. So that they could cut off the supplies so that they could use starvation as a weapon. No more. Is there anything more heinous . Its been most article in terms of how theyve gone after since october, 7th. And before anyone who stood in their way would be demonized. Roger waters is somehow an anti somebody, anybody and everybody has had this. Oh and so you know. Yeah. You know, some of the brightest up up of minds coming up and theyre demonized here. You know, a line on that. Thats one of the things its so disturbing to me is that in, in a domestic context in the United States is that i thought the conservatives for free or for free speech all year for free speech, except when it comes to go head lydell. This every thing that i use to believe and if i, if, if youd had told me here are the rules. Conservative, liberal, progressive anti war 3 speech were the people who were, you know, the Berkeley Free speech of the 1st amendment, the whole doing what the signs and the last not, not only is the prototypical arc, a typical left brain dead during the coma. They dont know whats going on, peter, can you imagine and then can, can, can you imagine if we were to use these arguments during vietnam . Yeah, they want to say youre out of your mind if, if imagine me lie. As in that, what i hate to say theres nothing about just the little village, edit, grove, everybody. Sy hersh was a gene. If i use the same arguments for that the dont, dont americans have the right to defend themselves as a what are you talking about . Do i mean these arguments, youre talking about metal fatigue. Were still using them to this day, but, but im telling you something happened. And for the 1st time that im here, because im here in the 1st bull, remember this . Im hearing people for the 1st time say wait a minute. Maybe theres something wrong with theres a list or whatever it takes to get peoples attention. God bless, maybe the baby, the blood brain barrier has been finally permeated. Maybe theres something happened in mark my words gentlemen. As we get closer to the elections. Watch, watch just flip, watch blink. It become a little bit more animated, but also have you noticed theres kabuki, the edge where the stand are waging their fingers at that and you know, why . Well, yeah, weve started. Let me, let me get this out. And before we go to the break here, i mean, thats one of the things that so infuriating is to watch these public divisions lies well. These are lies that are very easy to do, just discern, i mean, you know, the attack on the convoy. Everybody in the world knows what happens except for the us state department, say m yes. And you know, the us to set up the parameters or attempted to set up the parameters to about the to do you know this, all right, International Law in this context has been, which is the state department. And i asked them not just about the genocide convention, but even the geneva conventions. They, they protested that day. Yep. Abide by the geneva conventions. But when you really parse out their words and i, you have, you know, they, sometimes they dont call on me. I have to go up to them afterwards privately, and i basically got them to admit that they dont recognize the, the sessions and the whole desktop. Were going to go back to International Law, but we go to a short break and a half to back short break. Well continue our discussion on palestine. Stay with our team, the oh, what else seemed wrong . Just dont you have to see the house and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support. We choose to look for Common Ground the the welcome back across stock were all things are considered non Peter Roosevelt mind you were discussing palestine the but 1st incident we have a home in mirandi who is a professor at the university of the around a at the end of the 1st part of the program, were talking about how the United States now does not recognize or does even aware of International Law. So professor miranda had a one really basic, broad question. So a theme that you and ive talked about for many, many years, is it, israel is essentially morally corrupted. The west and the west is willingly accepting it. Its not resisting. Yes, i think thats uh, becoming increasingly clear that theres really regime has not only morally corrupted the west more than it was before, but that it is doing so in the eyes of the international community, the whole globe as watching whats going on. Just imagine the is riley, almost all on a single day. Theres really reasoning withdraws from the hospital a bad ship hospital, hundreds of dead people. People with their hands bound women, physicians, and theyre a woman physician and her son who was also a physician, a murdered, executed. On the same day, theres raving machine by late syrian aerospace, the funds that the iranian consulates in kills the number of iranian officials. And that senior military official also on the same day we have the assassination of the aid workers from an aide organization that is very, very close to the us state department. What happens afterwards . Nothing . Well, it may be that that shows the level of impunity that israel believes it has because the United States allowed the light. Oh, im going to give you a situation of name press or miranda already mentioned the, the bombing of the rainy and cancel it and damascus. And, and then the how these, the talking heads funded later. This is, im going to give you the spend, but with an example. So lionel as jen skelton burge, the secretary general of nato, he goes to the, a rainy of the Ukrainian Embassy in belgium. And theyre, theyre talking about war plans and ukraine. Well, given what israel just did, russia would have the right to bomb the Ukrainian Embassy there because theres discussing war plants and terrorism. Of course, the world would never accept that. But the world, the western world, lajna, lajna turns its eye away from a crime. I mean that one of the simplest things in International Relations is that embassies and consulates are off limits except for here we go again, lionel to quote Ronald Reagan theater. There you go again. There you go again with this thing called logic. There you go again, pointing out the obvious, dont you understand. These are different times. Dont you understand that these places are actually used as a human shield or building shields . These are actually repositories and a Battle Ground where weapons are good. You, you create the narrative. When you try to think of a way to excuse of this, you just come up with something and then you as well, is there any evidence of that evidence . Remember that it doesnt matter. What were saying is, this is a way to right now as we speak. There is this, i have to mention this here the day. You, you, you dont hear these press conferences and got it with god. Bless. Thank you. Internet. Thank you. Platforms. Thank you. Because if anybody is watching cable news, when you hear is rarely officials say, well listen, as far as raw for goes already got a move, i just move north. What . Almost, i dont want to use the word flippancy, but if you believe in body language or tone of voice, its almost at the point of, of, of course we, you bomb this. Of course we dont know what, what dont you understand about this . Its, its ignorant, but mixed with arrogance. And then a hardiness and that changes the tenor was like, would you stop complaining well, or in the middle of the air or, you know, a line or, and i look at the state Department Officials, if you notice a smirk all the time. Yeah. They dont. Yeah. They, they know its kabuki theater. You know, sam, i said in my introduction here is, um, is that, um, israel is boiling for a greater regional more of course, once the United States to fight it. And for him, well, if youre in his really high official, you would think thats very logical. I mean, were giving you these railings or getting away with genocide done. Of course the americans are going to back us in a war. I mean, if youre is really official, a died and will design is you. Of course youre going to believe the joe biden will be led by the nose. Go ahead, sam isaac, israel used this as a win win win it from its insidious perspective. The bombs, the iranians in syria is the ryans response. They get a wire war. If they dont respond, theyre humiliated. If there is a regional or they stand to gain from it. If there isnt, then there genocide against the palestinians can be spun, is relatively minor. Did they have every incentive to violate law state . They ultimately, you know, i mean, ive spent a lot of time trying to focus people in the United States on this most nuclear weapons. And the fact that the United States government refuses to acknowledge their existence, even members of the squad, refused to acknowledge the existence of 0 nuclear weapons, which is the elephants in the room. And thats ultimately, i think, what the romulans are looking at when they consider the possibility of a regional war. If it actually happens. Where does that lead . You know, i mean, you have the samsung option, right . Which chomsky and others have w