Transcripts For SFGTV BOS Buget Finance Committee 20220717

SFGTV BOS Buget Finance Committee July 17, 2022

Meet will come to order this is the july 13, 2022 budget and finance meeting. Im supervisor Hillary Ronen chair. Joined by supervisor mar and we should be joined by vice chair safai. Our clerk is brent jalipe and thank mendoza from sfgov. Org from broadcasting. With return a reminder to make sure to silence cell phones and Electronic Devices we have hybrid meetings for in person attendance and Public Comment via phone the board recognizes that it is essential and taking comment as follows. First taken on each item on the agenda. Those in person speak first then those on the phone line for watching channels 26, 28, 78 or 99, and sfgov. Org the number is streaming it is 4156550001. And enter 24954145466. Pound and pound again. 24954145466e mail to the Committee Clerk bentjalipe at sfgov. Org e mail will be forwarded to the supervisors and also included part of the official file. And send written comments Via Postal Service to the office at city hall 1 doctor carlton b. Goodlet place. Items acted on today will arc pear peer on the agenda of july 19th unless otherwise stated thank you. Can you call item 15 first. Yes, item 15. An ordinance faendzing the public works code to require to create a pilot allowing Property Owners in commercial areas to opt in graffiti abatement at no cost to the Property Owner and under the California Environmental quality act wish to comment on this Ordinance Police call the Public Comment number at 4156550001. And enter id of 24954145466. Press pound twice. You need to press star 3 to enter the line. Will indicate you raised your hands when you have been unmuted that will be your queue to begin comments. I believe we have jennifer from supervisor melgars office. Thank you chair ronen. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to sum rise this. I will sum rise it. We have superintendent john than vein from public works on teams if well are questions about how it would being implemented. The ordinance seeks to create a 2 year pilot so this Property Owners can opt in to have public works carry out graffiti arc baitment along external corridors at not no cost to the businesses will support Small Businesses through so much during covid and revitalize our street scapes. Graffiti spiral out of control. And then the entire commercial corridor surface. Judging from the calls we think the public assumes it is the citys responsibility on private property like it is in new york and los angeles. So we need this legislation so that the Property Owner can give permission on the public works and wave liability issues for the department. We worked with staff to craft a pilot that would work for them. We leave the details to their discretion as we know best how to do this work. And they suggested that they would create regular routes that they would check every few days and paints over graffiti as they see it which is more current. If this passes, we businesses will have the chance to like sign up for it. But also if an owner does not know about the program if they receive a notice of violation they have time to opt in and arc void any fines. As you know, this there is 4 million over 2 years for this program of so, it is already funded. In the bla reports the cost analysis they used this term, seasonal, which i think is confusing. There is not a graffiti season. So as i understand it, that means the public works can adjust the schedule so it is regular but may not be the same volume every wrooer week all year. We heard from many Small Business owner in our district and neighbors anxious to get this launched. This monday the Small Business commission unanimously recommended it. So. I will step arc side in case there are questions. Thank you. There is a bla report on this . Thank you. Nick from budget legislative analyst office. So, as it is now, under the public works code Property Owners that have graffiti are responsible for abating it the board waived the fines during the pandemic but that expired. Item 15 is an ordinance that would amend the code to transfer responsibility on an opt in basis from Property Owners to the city to abate the graffiti and a Pilot Program for the next 20 months and there is an add back of 2 Million Dollars a year to funds this program. We showed the budget for the program as provide by public works. On page 59 of our report. I think it is reasonable given the work load data that we reviewed from public works. Said that, this is a policy change we consider to be an anthropologist matter for the board. Thank you very much. And i had a couple questions. First, thank you to you and supervisor melgar for this needed legislation. Graffiti and specifically the Mission District has never been worse. It is a major, major problem that you know my office is looking into how to hold stores accountal selling the materials used for graffiti because what we are seeing is large groups of people go buying going to a store buying paint and right out in the store graffiti the neighborhood it it is a disaster. You know origin a new senior Affordable Housing building in the Mission District was destroyed and to a cost to a nonprofit Affordable Housing developer of thousands of dollars it is tragic. And so im wondering how does a business sign up for this program . For example, the Affordable Housing development on 24th and harrison that has been graffitied from the moment it opened. Could that the minute this passes could that property call dpw and apply for membership. Could you describe how that works. Gi believe so. We will work with public works to create the form and make it very public. So people know about temperature so [laughter] sorry. Um sorry. Could you repeat. No problem. Is it up to public works to create the application process and who is eligible will every business be eligible. Did you put program terse within the legislation to allow inclusion or eccollusion of types of businesses . Is it first come first serve . Yea. It is by zoning. It is along commercial corridors unless they have a cbd that takes care of graffiti. And if there is a residential building on that corridor they would also be part of it that could be if they sign up for it. So thats all as long as you are a business or residence denos a commercial corridor you are eligible and in terms of signing up for the program. As far as you continue is first come first serve upon funded at 2 Million Dollars i imagine there is a limit to how many would not want to sign up for this, right . Im wondering how it will work or if there has been thought or that is saved for the next part of the regulations. Yea. Thats why it is a filot if successful we could expand it i agree to 2 million for the entire city is small and we definitely hope this will help with graffiti you know its difficult. You know the point is to sort of arrest it when it happens and hopeful low there is in the more spiralling out of control temperature is something that we can study with 3 eleven requests and see if it is working and adjust it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I also wanted commend and thank you and supervisor melgar for your work on this. I would love to be added as a cosponsor. I had questions about the scope of the problem and then the scope of this Pilot Program. In the bla report they site average Monthly Service orders city scombied on commercial corridors city wide it is like 34,000 Service Order and it is commercial corridor it is 5700. Is that what is a Service Order. Is that representative of how representative of that is the scope of the problem on the commercial corridors that 5700 a month. That number is a baptist an over estimate. Some of that is public property which is exclude immediate this legislation. I think the numberers 400 over 400 a month in the report. Approximate so we this we looked at that relative to the staffing proposed. And thinking about how long it takes to get out there. Address graffiti and do all the work that is necessary after. We thought it was a reasonable staff work load. Yea. Not quite im trying to understand. It looks like the range of the commercial corridor average montly Service Orders is 562 to 7 where are 9 over the last 4 years. Is that like a 311 what is this Service Order . I believe these other numbers of graffiti abatement orders public works had to under take each year. Got it. And what bpw, yea. Graffiti abatement orders and how representative is that of the over all problem in the commercial corridors, do you have a sense . I guess im not im you mean like to what how much graffiti are they getting to with the orders. Or how does it compare to the number of citations. We have not issued citations but is that the full scope of the businesses on or the properties on the commercial corridor, that need graffiti abatement. I dont think so. Sometimes the property ordinance abate it. There may be more abatement work done privately. That would not be captured in the data. Okay. And then for the Pilot Program with the resources that in the budget the 2 million, um is there a sense of how much that will cover. Of say of the is that covering all of the roughly, the Monthly Service orders . Public works would know the answer better than me. I believe they are on the line. Good morning. Hi. I think the estimate is pretty much for the corridor area. Itself. It can cover 2 Million Dollars again a Pilot Program first of all, im glad the program is implemented or start to implement because the way we tackle the graffiti the faster we abate. It should cover it is a pilot we will try to see and tackle as soon as possible. Only in the corridor program. Major corridor. Got it, thank you. You say with the additional was 7 full time staff working on this that the plan or goal is to have that be able to cover the what has been the average number of Service Orderings monthly. 562 to 709 . Correct. And those are from 311 but also the proactive requests we would generate our requests if we notice a problem next door that has graffiti and generate that order to take action on that. Great. This sounds great. Thanks again to all of you for your work on this. Supervisor safai. Thank you, chair. So worked at public works i know about this and thank you jonathan. Sounds like this will be a pilot to shift the burden away from private Property Owners to the city. But what i also want to hear is whats going to be don coordinate with the Police Department and the da office because a lot of the taggers are the amount of tag we have a lot of the taggers are repeat individuals. When you look at when i worked there the police would and public works would document the tags. They would estimate the value of the damage. As supervisor ronen says and sometimes in the millions of dollars. And there needs to be a level of accountability. Is that written in. As far as charging people they catch as far as coordination with public works and the Police Department and the courts and district Attorneys Offices. If we are just covering up the paints. Im for that. Since we had a vacation on graffiti enforcement, we have seen an explosion of graffiti more than we ever have. It is the bigef complaints we gechlt im happy this is moving forward. But if we are think burglar this in the longterm, what used to be done was a level of coordination. A lot of people think tagging and so on is gang related. A lot of the individuals that are involved in this ends up being 30 year old white males. That is the truth. It is not young there are some level of small tag with markers the people that dot spray paint and that level of tagging all along our commercial corridors over and over are 30 year old white males. A lot dont live in the city. And so what i want to know if we are doing this level of Pilot Program, it would be great to see if public works will work with the Police Department or asking these staffers to document. We can paint over the tagging because it is tagging not graf feet paint over the tagging we node a follow up plan to really see this decrease. Jonathan are you on the line . Yes. Can you talk a little bit about the coordination and the follow up . That might be planned part of this pilot . Yea. Im not sure about the public works have existing program that we are coordinate with pd with the pretrial diversion for graffiti abatement. You hit all the spot there. Thank you for up. Most of the tagger that get caught are adult male. And we all working with the San Francisco Police Department to actually have them abate graffiti in an area. As far as coordinate with other city agency or the City Attorney. Not familiar with that. Is is this something your office thought of. The legislation is silent on that. We had a big weekend graffiti incident in the westportal and reached out to our local police and they explained they have you know this they try to prioritize the people that it is obvious the same person doing a lot of damage. And building case. And i believe they can fine them for the property damageful so. Everything happened quickly during the budget process im happy this happening i did not have a chance to talk about this. I do see that there is general labor supervisor, 3 positions. 2 street inspectors. I just it would be great if there being be a level of coordination blin this. Since we do this pilot one of the metrics i would like is a level of coordination with the Police Department and the district Attorneys Office. As a way to show you know how we are trying to decrease the frequency of this. So jonathan said they work with pretile and pd that would be helpful. Good feedback. Thanks. Thank you, chair. Thank you. And i am curious and hope that there will be information given to our office when this is in affect. So we can inform the businesses in our district how to sign up. We have not worked on that yet. I hope it will be easy and online and public. Thank you. So with hacan we open this for Public Comment. Yes. Members of public when wish to speak are join nothing person line up to speak. However those remote call 4156550001 and id24954145466 then pounds, pounds, star 3 to enter the line. For those in the queue wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. That is your queue to begin comments. No one in the chamber. And no callers in the queue. Public comment is closed. I understand that supervisor melgar might be online. Are you there . Supervisor melgar . Accountability supervisor melgar is not online. I guess she needs a link from you . May be. May be we can move to the next item and will not acts on in item and wait for the sproirs to come online and in the meantime, the inritation was sent. And i dont know if you wanted to wait a minute or we can go forward. Etches lets wait a minute and call item one. Item 1. A resolution authorizing office of cannabis extend i grant award from Economic Development for the Equity Grant Program for local jurisdictions 4. 4 million for a term march 15, 22 through october 31, 23 thurzing office of cannabis to execute with the Governors Office of business and economic and any extensions, amendments or contracts. On behalf of the city ask count and he the Governors Office of business and Economic Development limelight arc rising out of the performance of the contract. Members remote and wish to comment on this call 4156550001id24954145466 pounds, pounds and then star 3. The prompt will indicate you raised your hand. Then you will be unmuted. I do have see supervisor melgar now. Now online. Lets call on supervisor melgar. Thank you. Chair ronen apologies from not being there i had a dentist appointment that was need. Thank you for considering this. This is a Pilot Program jennifer from my office explained. We fully expect to be working with dpw staff to get some of the inspirational details right. And we are absolutely committed to working with your offices to make sure that everyone you know gets the word out. And that it works for the different needs of the different commercial corridors and as to your point as supervisor safai about the coordination with pd, we have been doing that in westportal where things got out of hand during the pandemic but absolutely want this to be a coordinated effort to interrupt the cycle of tagging. But also to gather Strategic Alternatives who is doing what. It is the same folks. So, thank you so much we do commit to work out the kinks and involving your offices to make sure it works for everyone. Thank you for your work. We are excited to see how it work and agreed it is needed urgent low now all over the city. Thank you. I would like to make a could i be added as a cosponsor and i would like to make a motion to send this to the full board with positive recommendation. Can we have a vote . On that motion to forward this to the board with positive recommen

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