With the police chief and asked what the metrics should be in terms of what will be they process for achieving overseeing processes and reforms reforms that have yet to be adopted and how theyll implement the reforms that are adopted and not been implemented throughout the ranks and file of the department so what ive crafted this reserve proposal to be would be that we will hold 30 million on reserve of the 0 Police Departments budget that leaves 540 million left in the Police Department budget theyve spend on deployment and train and all the other services that the Police Department provides and that they would have they funds released in 3 sections of the board of supervisors when they present their progress towards the perform on november 1st, 2016, and second february 2017 and may second 2017. The first right of refusal november terrors according this this proposal the first presentation the department will be required to share with us the the document talk about how theyve move forward the timeline with detail on those reformed the department again, the chief acting chief chaplain those are things the department is doing if this is the say case by case not hard to tell us the process for doing those things the contingent on november 1st presentation of they timeline of activities with the reforms we can releases 10 million the subsequent release of dollars on february 7th on the mere presentation of little dependent on how it is achieving the progress on the documentation they share on november 1st and again, a mere presentation were not holding up Police Dollars only in the Police Department did not provide provocations presentations on the process ive been part of discussion on releasing the reserve funds 0 on hundreds of Mental Illness of dollars and on the waters improvement system or other projects we dont hold up the work of developing the plans or helping to plan for Deployment Services we just make sure that we get a presentation on what the design of something will be and then release the funds when theyre ready to be implemented ive not seen a release of a receiver or reserve that held up the departments way to carry on work and modern anything im trying to create a process of transparency what the departments is working on and a level of accountability with the board of supervisors and colleagues id like a motion to put 30 million of the Police Departments budget on full board reserve pending presentations of the do prototype acting chief chaplain or his successor whoever that might be and the Police Commission the Police Department does oppose this they believe this measure will hinder they ability to carry out the services ive talked about with the Controllers Office and the District Attorney we know that is not the case mark farrell putting 30 million on reserve will not hinders any activity and colleagues, i urge your support thank you supervisor wiener. Thank you madam president i will not be supporting this motion. Oh, wait before supervisor wiener a second for supervisor avalos motion seconded by supervisor mar supervisor wiener. Thank you madam president ill not be supporting in before i explain why i want to hip tip any hat to supervisor avalos i think this is a hard issue i know that initially madam chair rosales is probation officer a much uniform larger reserve and listened and talked about with a lot of people with the department and commission and those and i think even though there is disagreement i think came up were put a lot of thought i appreciate that even though were not on the same page on this issue if i thought this Budget Reserve will key up reform i would be open to reform i dont think that will make the reform going fast they happening as was speak and i think theyll continue to happen i what i dont want to do interject go any uncertainty into the Police Department we dont have enough Police Officers putting them through other academy as as quickly as possible with good training we are do not have nearly enough beat officers on the streets and not enough officers during the Traffic Enforcement we meeting need to be paying attention and focused on actually doing what the Police Department needs to do in terms of Public Safety and the department didnt have the staffing needs to do all we want and not create an uncertainty in the Police Departments budget it is two important of the Public Safety of our city i appreciate where that is coming from and appreciate supervisor avalos i think throughout full approach i will not be supporting the motion. Thank you supervisor yee. In regards to the meetings on those particular items that supervisor avalos has articulated i absolutely agree that we should have barriers on these to see how were doing with the reforms and if we were to ask for the hearings we support it. One of the things i thought about this concept of holding some of the funding on reserves im not totally against it certainly when business calls for that i will support it as the budget process which we put some of the overtime funding on reserves thats fine now im also in the mindset here we go we are reilly dealing with new leadership and one of the things id like to do for new leadership in any department is whether a new departments or not you know something you have a chance to prove yourself prove yourself and get those things done get them done i want to give the person my confidence ill support them and by putting money into the letters didnt really to me indicate i have confidence so i will not be supporting in ask. Thank you kneeing supervisor campos. Thank you madam president theres been a lot of talk about Police Reform and weve been working this for 0 longed i think that setting any portion of a budget on reserve is absent serious thing i appreciate that supervisor avalos has modified his proposal to the amount set aside maybe not the term but an amount put in reserve but also in a way that didnt impede with the day work of the Police Department i believe televised the reform that is needed at the Police Department is not going on to map unless consequences and the only going back to what supervisor wiener said somehow afraid of putting money into the reserve will jeopardy that only an issue if the reserves dont move forward if this department is commented and really real about reform itself and making the changes that all of us have called for then setting a small portion of the budgeted in a reserve until it is proven those reforms are Going Forward shouldnt be a problem i want to thank madam chair rosales and happy to support this effort if we are serious about the reform were all talking about business and opportunity this is an opportunity to demonstrate that. Supervisor tang. Thank you so i know that under has been comments made about the 30 million and not exaggerating the Police Department i want to clarify for the record what that impact will be i think i see our acting chief here will you be able to speak to 30 million on reserve what is impact the Police Department. And again supervisor tang speak through the chair. If i may ask the deputy chief to come up. Oh,a chief. Sorry. A laughter well, just real fast i have had robust conversations with. Please identify office use. Im acting chief tony chaplain robust conversations about the professional proposal i was taken auerbach by 30 million during the conversations were going back and forth he was talking about 15 to 20 million i was planning to deal with that 30 million is double what im about to talk about i had your cfo prepare 3 models that sounds like great what youre saying i have to operate what i know have access as ive illustrated a huge issue with the voting with the board of supervisors and everything were talking to go by the way side and this reserve will put that money in jeopardy i have to operate without the money and in model one to swelling cancel any september recruit class that saves me 03 million and additional 2 million and 200 and 11 recruits in 2016 that saves me a total of 9 million and model two this is salaries ill have to suspend all Police Services under the General Fund Operating Budget closing the department from june 16th through june 30th that brings the 15 Mental Illness under model 3 reduction of Proposal Services ill have to four love you 200 Police Officers that will save 15 million for 88 officers that is maybe to the 15 million i say 15 i thought supervisor peskin thats where we were at and the final to for allow the officers of 2017 b will save me 15 million the issue with the whole thing the odds of the coin just for the record madam chair rosales for referencing the officers that lost they lives in baton rouge and another officer was murdered today while wrapper sitting in the chambers weve asked the Police Officers of San Francisco to do a lot of things and theyve agreed and now put this on reserve this sends a message the brfrsdz and the city and county didnt believe were doing anything weve asked for the procedural criminal Justice System to reengineering the use of force to make sure that the public feels we are acting in they best interests when it comes to how we do that and adapted body cameras and the Police Officers association has issues with the statement made in public but in private theres been a lot of progress made i think outside the box that is anti progress that sentsdz the wrong message are we have so many groups in San FranciscoPolice Department and not one of those groups say we are righthanded to change were not quite frankly and everything weve push it across the table i agree to the were constituting checkbooks across i dabble and quite frankly nothing being asks of us the Police Commission is the body that holds us accountable for things every wednesday when i go to the meeting we have robust discussion and report to the body i dont think there is a exploring sign to bring it to this ended. Thank you very much chief. So all of that really just to say that i have serious concerns of putting this known on reserve mostly the majority of Police Department budget is commodities of the bodies on the streets serving the community and several asked a lot from the Police Department and acknowledge supervisor avalos and supervisor cowen and other colleagues that working hard to advocate for changes within the Police Department i know that is difficult for the force to adopt the Culture Shift and to take on changes weve asked of them to hold the hostage money for the department i think that just really the wrongs thing to do so today ill nobody support putting the money on reservoirs and allocate say that about 5 budget seasons ago this board voted unanimously to supports increasing the Academy Classes for the officers at that time, monopoly made any comments what it is to side to reform our police force in connection with that so, now fast forward to the point were almost about to complete achieving one thousand 9 had officers 6 that became a 5 year hiring plan is completely wrong if were going to ask the Police Department to take on the issues we need to give them the cat resources thank you. Supervisor farrell. Youre next on the roster. Thank you supervisor president london breed i just want to quickly comment i like many of my colleagues thank to supervisor avalos for bringing this forward im not support but i understand where supervisor avalos it coming from from any perspective thank you to the Police Department and the chief taken seriously by the commission from any preserve Public Safety i dont want to jeopardy any fund for the officers only the street and make sure from the priority should be funding the department as you know, i continue to have amends from every single about Public Safety and around the city from my perspective he concur with the reforms from any perspective putting this in reserve is not the rights thing to do. Supervisor peskin. Thank you madam president first of all, when a board is asked to reserve 30 million out of a 500,788,000,000 budget that is Minute School this is done this is done nor many departments i have profound respective for the men and women of the San FranciscoPolice Department but with all due respect the words that someone gave you about the day to day classes and thinking the 30 million should not be part of our budget is disappoint it had not true not correct this is mark farrell a mechanism to have some level of accountability over a set of policy issues that we all want to achieve yes, it is a little bit of leverage but an opportunity to cheese cake in when you need your 3, 10 million chunks of money youll explain how the reforms and if you dont hit our milestones well have an opportunity to understand whereas going on and you have the opportunities to explain and we can continue to make sure that those reform with we all president reagon moving a pace but frankly the notation the sky is failing and the classes will be concealed is not true. Supervisor kim. I was bewilder by the cuts you may have to make im looking at the proposal i wanted to ask our intern chief what exactly to provide for the board in other words, to get the budgetary explores youll need. My understanding madam chair rosales said before shes not 100 percent clear on the metrics and still accounting but just to address supervisor peskin said. Im sorry, i just minded you to answer any question i would asking for a response from commissioner peskin. Did i answer that. No. You didnt answer that what will you have to do for the board to realize. Mines it is worked by supervisor avalos that hes not 100 percent sure on what the metrics will be all over the place has ideas what he wants it to be but to this day not received in writing the specifics for each meeting we went over that orally but i was operating under the premise were trying to get the board to understand the damages. Okay. So thats important but not the request certainly should be clear its in front of me i have a motion before me wanted to give the sponsor of motion an opportunity to respond so what youve said about the lack ever clarity if there is a lack of clarity on the budgetary dollars i understand your concern they clearing extended i want to see if i misunderstood i understand you have to provide 3 reports to the Budget Committee i believe you will be able to provide im sorry to the full board on initiatives our fully committed to implementing so for me that appears this is just some accountability and age opportunities for discussion around an issue that is not only important to the city but our nation and worthy of the dialogue it is not clear i want to give the sponsor of motion an opportunity to explain clearly what will be expected in order to release the budgetary funds. Supervisor avalos. Really this is been what ivory net about the Police Commission and Police Department i wouldnt impose what the metrics should be b b but hear from the department what they think based on the work towards reform they conducting what i crafted not delicately but on november 1st, the Police Department tells us what the timeline of activities they will have on each of those 5 measures that are before us that to me is making sure that the department is fully in charge of they presentations to be able to put their departments best folded forwards im not trying to hamstring the department i would is cut money from the budgets this is not cutting money that puts money on reserve and so all you have to do is tells you on the use of force what will it take to the rest of the fiscal year to implement the ihss policy to make sure that people are trained in the use of force policy what number of people are you able to train by january 1st, 2017, weve talked about this and im in no what you want the department to come here and fail but come here and assure the public youre working on the effort i know you are. Ill leave it at that i want to have a question for the controller and the budget analyst and ill start with the budget analysts that works on representing the board of supervisors and giving us a lot of of the advise how we conduct business a reserve like this will this hinder there is talk from the chief that will hinder the department from kaifrt the Police Academy there are 3 classes supervisor peskin calls that pop come back. Madam president madam president where is that coming from. You said the controller madam chair rosales and now we got. The controller and the budget analyst. Mr. Rose. Madam president and members and supervisor avalos iceland say i talked with mr. Rosenfeld as i understand supervisor peskin the first reserve on november the first. 10 million and then february the 7 and may the second unless the board of supervisors