The high housing prices the city i have a close friend thought that was a great idea to live in a tailor by ocean beach this didnt upgrade or workout 6 months cops were moving in this was the wrote this solution im saying the working person a friend of mine and i tried to talk him out of this this was yur years ago. Where is he now i understand the story. He moved to tucson and and teacher teaching math. Living in a house. In a house he was a carpenter i will say it can be were trying to tackle this with various solutions it is defenda difficult i see those San Francisco that are you know completely stuffed to the gills and symptomatic of things going on in some peoples lives i see people involved in Drug Trafficking if so though the a typical situation but incidents of disorder that containment this Like Division and others but can be some of these and other people that are feeling for safe in their cars than a shelter so it is hard to apply the rule and interference for everyone that is using a car sow a twaer shelter and it should be temporary this is a question how we want to s to go and what kind of policies and procedures to open up not a San Francisco problem you know very closely we have west oakland and many, many r cvs and People Living in cars done the peninsula people common to live in their vehicles and some of our close communities provide some programs it can be effective so monorye and sonoma the counties have big Parking Programs they patron are a church or sonoma and use county fair grounldz and work with People Living in their cars and Catholic Charities to pasture that people transition from their car back into the community the regular Housing Stock so one of the opportunities we had recently wiwe met with spot on parking they help to manage the parking for churches and other institutions, schools and they especially to rent out over night spots where low usage for the different institutions and have suggested they have properties that dont have a high marketrate and would like to be able to offer them as part of a Safe Park Program so for me it is really important that we go and talk to people that be living in vehicles and say hey this would be something that we try to make real with thwould this work for you an answer a solution to what youre facing our initial discussions with the small group of people was no just to be overnight was not the answer they noted some place long term and so the spot on we were still rolling out large focus groups to see part of a population rather cough the street then to attach to services to transition of ti them out of their cars way initially was not well received so you know some of this is reiteration to make sure people know that could be good and always rolling out programs some hesitance with this a good or bad thing and often people see that as a really good thing you know weve discussed pier 80 it is a good example i know the first group we invited in basis a little bit hesitance and not existed just this last we can invited in 60 people off division street and will take another 25 and tuesday another 25 and on wednesday another 25 it is xooifrt it is become acceptable a great alternative so i think similarly with the safe park projegram we could tu a corner but we need people working together with the coalition that works are for many years on the issue with the community of People Living in cars with martins were hoping to do a focus group especially because district 10 and that district is so impacted with many issue so i guess ill stop there and answer questions. You i want to enlightenmenu guys pier 80 is growing thats a good thing i think we have work to do to make pier po importa80 and people will want to come thank you for i guess describe to us your effort where you, you are and what youve been doing the main point i want to communicate is that the legislation calls for providing space for over night vehicles and other large vehicles can you or i know you didnt mention in our brief summary but spot on i dont know if this is a representative from spot on. We invited them. All right. You know what im going to take it permanent those people that i invited didnt come that means the lack of seriousness with this issue so heads will role. Mark my words on that one so describe what spot on does in our partnership and give us idea of where the available locations and people can go and spots and how many large vehicles have been taken advantage an. Spot on are not open they came to us and said those are the assets not all can be utilized in the private marketed a lot of free Street Parking the area a church may have a lot but for us street park is problem a place to go and not be harassed is kind of something nice to offer we can augment it with you know outreach staff and connection to services possible toilet assess and others shower assess and peeves of the puzzle that allows people their preferring their vehicle to our traditional Shelter Services we offer continuously but work with the people towards resolving their houselessness without them having to come into the shelters spot on was offering various blocks around the city a lot of church spaces and some schools and some like the offer night they work with you know some were around balboa park that the City College Parking and there was various ones we are not take the opportunity ones in particular but an overnight disposspot you have to leave in the morning and that it is good intervention you you know enough does that meet threshold of peoples needs so this our point to do focus groups with people in the city know what is enough . What their offering maybe not enough on itself but how to incentivize what campfire services. Im getting frustrated ive hearing the highlevel good ideas this is not about that but about details so i dont really want to hear about phone call groups i want to hear a focus group committed and coming in i want to hear a timeline i want to hear cumulative data on monday, february 22, 2016, and in one months time we can accept this and expect that. Im getting pulled from im not hearing what i need to hear so spot on is not on board what does that take how many large vehicles and kiss i kiss e across the city. 200 and 75. How many at pier 80. Zero. What does it take to get them over there. Well, i i mean, we work with the shelters a certain ratios for bathrooms and toilets. Fair unlawfenough what is t ratio. 20 to one for toilets. And given the number of folks you have there. We have whether we get to one 50 by wednesday we will be at the rash ratio for the toilets and expending the toilettes access to the amount of cars. Have you started the process with the amount of toilets. We have been seeing how to expand typically i dont like to open a very big shelter one 50 is pretty big and a lot of people but this is a huge site they could accommodate multi types of things happening weve started to look at what, if anything, it takes to expand the homeless showers and toilets if this is possible you can you give me expert advise why you dont want to open up large shelters. It is a Program Models that is more punitive type of rules and entry the vacuolume of peop and the safeties we have to back ourselves up in more security and that kind of model it undermines our efforts larger to help people that are in crisis and under stress and try to get through and find the other side of that when we have those large shelters next door with lots of people in one location and the security and tight rules sort of is 0 it becomes hard. Can a what do we do open up a bunch of small ones. Thats hard to cite as you know with the previous hearing when it comes to citing small inlaw units and you know to krielt poster programs it is difficult. I would like you to do you and your Team Advisors and advocates think about a way to come up with the strategy to pull the over sized vehicles off the streets and into pier 80 i know there is not a strategy right now on site so ladies and gentlemen, for those of you not been to pier 80 is a huge hanger very, very large with large parking the industry of San Francisco on the kind of the northern part of the Bayview Community off of third street not near residential a unique aspect that the port owns between the city has overflow room and title to it so i think we need to come up with a strategy on how we can best utilize the assets and colleagues i dont know if anyone else has any questions or comments mr. Dodge an incredible task thank you. I appreciate youve got important work and let us know what you need to provide you with what it takes to help us help people okay. Thank you. In a main way. Get back to you so i ask caltrans to join us the meeting was unable to be here at this particular meekly he had he identified a caltrans property it could be leased within the city and county of San Francisco from the state for a phenomenal cost for large vehicles to park safely under the freeway unfortunately, he had jury duty but we continue to work with him to work with him to have a refuge for vehicles to park moving direction i dont know if any other colleagues hathat have question or comments we should go to Public Comment and hear with folks are thinking ive got a stack of cards id like to invite people to come up and participate everyone has two minutes pd you have a presentation . Okay. Absolutely come on up. My apologies. Dont need to apologize maam, im officer from the bayview station im here on behalf of order of captain wanting to take notes and give you a presentation you need you have working knowledge of the issue of large vehicles 48 hours for the blocks theyre on absolutely wonderful tools for me to enforce all i have to do is point to the sign and talk to the roiptsdz of the vehicle they move, however, i cant control where they move to this is the issue as well as sfmta working on the 72 hours traffic code seep son the college arts i will hammer that with notices and of the find the agencies have beat me to it and in dog patch that are far more vehicles that i can enforce and i have to respond to another complaint ive tracked the regulars the last seven months i have 21 regulars living in r v the bayview some of them having i have help from mr. Dodge to speak to them to provide services but a lot of them are basically semi permanent basis theyre waiting to get into housing or as mr. Do know mentions about the large places to gather that many people it is a security and police dont want to come up but the camps get vacated were chasing our tail and the 72 hours hold and restricti relation i have to skews ill followup on thursday if theyre there ill tell them thats a tool last month in the bayview the mta did a sweep an officer the team had tow trucks and vehicles were baabandoned with e register and obviously in the parks it took us a better part of day only 1 3rd of the district 35 cars out and filled the storage yards so basking a big issue of clean power and as far as pier 80 no families the r v vehicles have toilets and it becomes a hazard all i can do is exorcises Community Based recent that 72 hours but this will have to be brought up assessing the vehicles in and out imagine. I appreciate your example with numbers and data thats a report. I appreciate that. Thank you what i want you to do stop aby my office well give you the license plate and for this one vehicle the center of this discussion okay. Thank you. So im hopefully very folks from the coalition the audience and advocates for the coalition to bring theoir voice and expertise it is as important to me all right. I see margaret in the Design Center and gosh from the Design Center why not followup with calling names . Please come on up. Thank you. Take our time. No problem speak into the mike. I have one visible visual visual to show you to supervisor wiener comment a supposed Methamphetamine Lab wloup at the Design Center and across the street is. The rubble. The what. The rubble from the r v that blew up. I thought id like youd le that im here representing the tenants Design Center there their local neighborhoods to high ends weve seen an increase in the r v parking the design place we see families and individuals that go to work everyday goiliving in the r v we tried to reach to the serve providers like the Navigation Center and hope sf and local vets 0 offer our support were extremely compassionate about people in the r v there are a few bad actors that make it differe difficult this is design, at the Design Center all the people we know that would love to be here to give testimony couldnt attend i have a presentatietiti circulated in the neighborhood we got seven hundred and 4 signatures and like to read to us you a few exerts to provide testimony how this issue was discussed the neighborhood companion one the situation with so many old r v in showcase square is dangers a recent fire and one that caught trees on fire and scorched buildings and their refueled are large gas cans and an increase in people using the sidewalk for bathrooms and in the evening it is effected excuse me. By the 10 or telephone r v are. Im sorry this is it thank you. Well take a copy and put it the file next speaker. Overwhelms to use is overhead as well. Overall projector sfgovtv. Go ahead. Hi, im joshua here on behalf of the owner and the bayview wiDesign Center over on and 20 folks they were designers show rooms and over the last 3 years an influx of r v and encampments the area youve heard from sam dodge and officer green getting controls and restrictions and the problem is that our seear didnt have controls the problem is their contemplated in our area weve shown at front the of our Design Center consistently seeing r v that people are living in their interrupting our business the ra ratio the r v and the street is covered are r v it is effecting our attention and many of the tenants are shown 60 it is effecting their sales in San Francisco as management and owners the property seen skyrocketing security were patrolling the area and in consistent dialogue with every group that i mentioned between hope sf and sfgov and would like to be part of the solution but dont see one weve spoken to caltrans and state and feder st. Joseph a sfgov were compassionate we need progress the 4 hour park controls are the process for several years we still dont see them until april id like wed like see the r v ban be added thats a major problem so to summon the Design Center as we see it is negatively impacted by the r v but they have no where to go it is effecting our business and previously a water list for tenants now the attendants come the ground floor spaces their confronted by graffiti thank you all. Considering this and for the movement we hope to see on that matter thank you. Next speaker lisa marie. Mel do. Good afternomorning, super bringing up things packages of papers and im with the coalition on homelessness and weve think working on this issue for many, many years ive been here since 2012 and the packet weve protruded fact sheets who it is living in their cars and vehicles in San Francisco but also what weve seen in terms of the major oversized vehicles and a couple of solutions obviously we really want to be solution oriented i want to be focused this is a frustrating situation people that live in their vehicles are as frustrated as the people d l dealing with the large vehicles we want to move 24 with a solution were frustrate since 2012 with those ideas and no movement a best practices on safer programs that the hope commissions from usf two years ago this is a ton of things that have not yielded happened some of the Solutions Creating mechanism to drop the toe charges to a lot of improvement that may not be aintent but 72 hours notices people are seeing in sleeping in our vehicles those things are been enforces would he ev weve seen increase in taking folks in their vehicles when this legislation came out that was about the commercial trevehicles that wase focus and curve that overuses of Public School parking it as issue around homeless so i think there is a place to look at the amendments 53 and having a focus on the issue at hand ill not go into a safer Parking Program we support it withholdi100 Percent People had that are willing to go into that the lasts thing a full assessment on parking restrictions in San Francisco we see the presentation that sfmta ga gave toy only 5 percent of streets are 5 percent of the parking ban they dont know how many on the parking restricts that make it impossible for people to park their investigates investigat vehicle the full audit there is not residents that are impacted by large vehicles not businesses that will be impacted by the large vehicles there are people that are here for a short period of time and living in their vehicles we wanted to point out that in terms of of the citywide improvement or the citywide policy on this andy noticed portland main want to expand that a little bit there a citywide ban that was for snow blowing and had to relieve and open up park for one hundred vehicles theyve had to replenirelink their citywide ban it would be a knitted mar and 200 and 75 People Living in their vehicles not a lot of people no roan reason to have a citywide ban and also wanted to say you know really want to applaud sfmta for the moratorium weve seen the torture passed on this issue we appreciate that. Lisa marie i ahave a coupl of questions i think im in agreement with 200 and 75 not a big faction when you think about the number of vehicles on the street ill agree you with and push back a little bit with that sentiment it is a large number but i dont know in suenough to how to house them and you mentione