49 thousand you must say no it will cap sisters and spread everywhere. Is there any additional Public Comment . Yes. Good evening, commissioners im with the richard Association Im not from the district again San Francisco is such a small city i think we need to support each area especially, when there is a valuesus cause i think in this case concerning the preservation Historic Preservation not just the hows by the culture and art and people that is a critical element here so, please do not approve that prestige as it is thank you. Hello commissioners, i took the liberty of taking a translation course and is translation in truth im an artist that just rentcontrolled unit space i lost my space i was going to get evicted im speaking in favor hi, im a tech company illegally renting space building for years it is a lights industrial space and the landlord hi, im the owner im trying to legally convert this to office space to retroactively approve the erase hi im the retail guy thats been here for years and years and trying to make good on the new leases im im the City Attorney and theres a law protecting Light Industrial space but i woentdz say anything if you wont there is a project that needs to be reconsidered the loss of pdr space clapping. thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners im eric request the coordinating district and i want to say we truly look at the big picture what is go on in the Mission District and the mission weve lost pdrs space that was promised for businesses to grow the building was sold we sponsored the project we were going to get the space for Small Businesses now they sold the building that is one case 24th and mission theyre dealing with the rent increases that was talk about converting that to office space and 16th street and mission we need to look at the history of the Mission District and the district. What it has really produced you know what is coming out the neighborhood it is the arts and culture that is a what brings people to the neighborhood we have to look at technical tech and office thank you. Hello, im jake ive been serve my country with the peace korea and found myself displaced im an engineer and work downtown like a lot of any tech employees we came to San Francisco we appreciate the artists and want to have it continue so like to also all around or around the country black lives matter in San Francisco and i but also the artists that built the city thats why im here thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners im part of the San FranciscoLatino Democratic Club i think Dennis Richard i remember yeah. I was here yesterday for my trump pin i cannot. So commissioners as i said im part the Latino Democratic Club the Latino Community has 20. 8 unemployment rates thats super high compared to the city so im here to say please dont approve the project for real what is the pdr replacement policy for the mission a question how much office space is permissible and how many latinos do they employ will that solve any problems thank you very much. Is there any additional Public Comment . Okay Public Comment is closed. Are opening up to commissioners commissioner richards okay what im going to do is start and commissioner antonini is behind me ill ask a lot of questions first just so let you know i took a tour on every floor walking pretty much and engaged that is helped me understand the differences between the fourpt floor and two or three and kwhaepd in the basement is a bit scary if so close and from the poles close if i dont want to be here one of the questions is mr. Holman here do you come up a second people were you know saying things as fact and throwing things in terms of what has happened and your question gone question i keep coming back i asked the gentleman when you bought the knowledge did you thinks there was fraud in the retrofit that wasnt was that discolored to you were you aware of it . Losed to you were you awa of it . The people that gave us the building it says this is retrofitted to prevent the major earthquake i sent pc b o building inspection to when we asked this is what we were told. Did you have a contract inspector look at the building and say in was a plywood and plastic bolt. We looked at the Steel Foundation see and opened up the floor the mud there was not cement foundations. We know i sxhu there was some work to upgrade we didnt realize the platinum amount of useful stuff that was pained madam chair whatever we assumed some work i want to correct the record we bought it for 16. 8 million not 5 we worked to put in but didnt realize the vast stent. Question to mr. Holman this retrofit is playing central in my mind this is Public Safety is incredibly important given that it wasnt quite what you understood it to be it is legitimate what kind of recourse to go after the fraud. The day i walked from the building i saw a notice the elevators we are unsafe from 2010 what did we do we went and basically rebuilt the elevators to be safe like Everything Else when in the building we tried to repair the elevators the state of california levied fines we looked at the surprisingly system and got permits to repair it the city came after us your supposed to have those things done were going to give you a punishment he talked to the owner you should have filed and gotten permits to fix the surprisingly system im not somebody that sits around and sues someone for what happens before we bought the building would we have bought the building today i dont think so toby and i have had a lot of issues a lot has been done to us im not sitting around and blaming someone else when i was in the building everyday all kinds of things should have been done. Sorry let me say if we were going to sue the prior owner it would take years and years all sort of thousands of paperwork it would be hard to collect that example needs to be done now the likelihood the attorney said it is dubious it would take years to get to court we chose not to do that they can rely something on the city said the city should have been inspecting it the municipalities never have any responsibility and you can likewise prior owners point to the city as their jurisdiction. One other question mr. Holman a letter somebody read you apparently wrote was a factual letter. At the time, we got the building the people that are living in the suits 204 that we did evict and i went in and there were 18 People Living there with one toilet and one shower and i would hey that is unsafe and i finally got into there when we bought the building and i said i found space for them to legally live they said well stay here and fight you so my experience in building is that whenever you try to help someone that often is an unhappy experience the Childrens Network was not legal they said were not legal on the fourth floor i said okay. She said you need to rebuild did building i said april i couldnt do this but what i did i sent here a lease for another year and helped her to find a place and primarily april is happier now. Shes in the bayview. Yeah. Thats where they moved a man a really nice man we used to have coffee he said im tired my lease let me out of that. This is for the space our mission street. The guys a and a said they took things on our account i started to pay for sodas i dont take from my tenants and it came time for the renewal okay. Youve not had a rent increase in 10 years we want to rent reduction that makes sense no sense people that moved in across the street they under charge were losing money their afghans i was no africa it is an their experience in the building you you know you feel like things after they happen horrible experience and descent people. Gone last question i kind of understand the economics of the Coffee Development you know there is a costs you have 0 amnesties and costs from the rents and things there will be incomes and a targeted percentage that is sit down some are 20 percent for the Development Just a question the Developers Tell me the question i think the solution will have a mix of spaces as you already proposing we might nibble around the edges but based on the commissioner richards where you are if we ask for a person some other type of arrangement more artists in different locations how had 0 you from the economic. We did a multiple analyze youve been given the analyze. Did we get those. Got it i remember. So first of all, im not a developer. Okay. Im not a developer i dont know you know we dont do that thing the second thing given what weve gotten into this project will be jason said we can get a 6016 percent return. 16 as is. As we proposed and proposed. Part of the problem someone is upset were herd theyre paying 90 credence per square feet they susdz us 3 times theyre paying a lot of rents i have someone that sued me 3 times under there until 2018 not black and white a second scenario so we alsoran the petition and that shows a 2 percent on economic i cant do that im not in that position we ran a scenario we basically as the thrift pointed out to vacate the building it is unsafe we sell the entry building and jason said you did 12 or 13 percent basically, you dont pay the city one million and a half you only vacate i come across real estate people we almost sold the building as katz nicaragua oils can tell you the reason they reviewed to the artists are in the building i care about the artist he said we have enough to get to we dont need that and we didnt sell the building that was fine i kind of feel like the concerns like it is a no win situation for us. Sure. Would we have bought that building no each of the elements i turn around i find with bad things. The 16 percent on the project prototype. I dont think that is accurate that is high im a business person and i normally do startups cost 57 nothing ever goes between the malls those are models they do oh, yeah, yeah, yeah ive had enough experience we give you optimistic scenario what happens for example, we basketball the building did we think we this had to spend hundred and 50,000 to rebuild the elevators did we think every latch was broken in the building did i think the Sprinkler System needs to be rebuttals it was inspected when i look at Small Business owner something how did they do that why what a human being do that im sorry we take responsibility. Sure. Im not the going to ask the prior owners. Thats a notable thing. Not notable just. I think that is notable take the compliment laughter the last question i have is we may come up with a situation with the x thousand square feet we want that an additional artist space but that changes the 16 percent or the run return. Well just vacate the building thats not an option remember we have a tenant occupying 11 thousand square feet and the Office Tenants paying 0. 90 per square feet its not economic and that was critically im glad you come up that election location is on the map that i sent i mentioned this morning on the displacement project it is an advanced state of gentrification and gent identified between 2000 and 2013 as recorded by uc berkley there is a migration of people coming in i get it for the art person i have a question and michelle. I think so can you elaborate think the result. We put out a survey start the artists to get releases data on who was displaced or facing some level of vibration this survey was sent there channels i think the first round of responses over a hundred responses and just didnt feel like that is a good examine we did several efforts of outreach and got 5 hundred and 40 actors a lateral in San Francisco facing a level of displacements the data is agree invade and the reports is out this month ill be happy to when it is ready. My first touts on the results ill say the narratives it is kind of consistent. Thank you. I guess, sir im having a hard time there were issues raised with the Admin Services can you help clear that up for me good evening corey assistant sdvrp yeah, its important to make that distinction the Administrative Services that is an office space cant be tech or back of Large Office Space it cant be office space that is, if you know for its own good and not providence any Others Services i mention the services by definition from the neighborhoods district are designed for businesses to businesses in the districts not open to the districts the Administrative Services must provides services to others businesses also known as to Office Functions for its own gain and so in terms of the Office Attendance the flower and the other one your clarify those. Those were evaluated as Administrative Services. Weve heard ryan was mentioned is o ryan a trade shop type of business and obviously the planner can speak to this more that space their occupying is speculated as a trades shop based on the information weve determined they meet the dpichgs e definition of a trades shop if more information is needed well look at multiple kinds of trades shops artists do all of those need a trench of products produced or Art Galleries with no presence. Can you restate. You have o ryan he shoulders the trade shops any retail space on if Mission District does oryan need a trade space or any old trade space. Equal basically to qualify you have to have a retail space as proposed the grerp gallery on the ground floor is the retail space and o ryan needs many kind of recap as well. Okay. Thats interesting the other question and they, be open to the public anywhere okay got it thank you within other question there is so much stuff flying around maybe toby on the sponsoring how many. On which floor. Excuse me. Fourth. Prior to it being vacated and i think the whole fourth how much do the network on the fourth floor for simplicity that is the Homeless Children network about 6 thousand square feet there is roughly for simplicity sake 25 thousand square feet per floor roughly and so if you and who else is on the fourth floor. The artist space on the fourth floor 3 cases 402 a large space 9 thousand square feet that was in suit 4 hundred was packed and occupied 19 this is tending to prove or disprove but the artists were in the absolute about 9 thousand square feet. Im trying to make. Yeah. Yeah, i know. So im trying to go higher proposed by floor. Right so i can that in 405 Homeless Childrens 404. With 8 hundred and 29 square feet youre getting confused within boo ma. Can we get an estimate of fire and fourth floor proposed artist. Im not as sort familiar with tenants and the okay. We can toby. Im just trying to get this. Judgment multiple voices if you need to calculate it well come back to you that was office. That was office this was homeless Childrens Network is did i understand by the office space use. How much office use. This was the office space. 4 feet. That had two units in that okay one 19 hundred square feet boo ma that was packed with the Technology Company in the front another 12 hundred square feet 12 hundred plus. 9 thousand thats 9 thousand thats it thats boo ma and the other issue excuse me. Excuse me. Folks if in the Automobile Accident allows people to speak otherwise well have you go downstairs to the light court and catchs proceedings over the tells us in the interest of time. Great after that proposed zero thirdstory third floor. There was is. Is so red brick is currently Affordable Housing my City Attorney thats pretty impressive is red brick is there 3 thousand square feet moving them into office space. This says that a crown flower and crown pleasure is here this is the contractor that is the contractor yeah think the third floor. No its terry and oh, keri love and this is the space. 3 thousand. Who is there. That was elsie 17 a lot of tech. That was part of ronalds. How many square feet. The problem guys are tenaciously the revisions weve talked about how much the space was artists and technology and robert was blending the tech yours of a higher rents and im trying to get a proximate on the third floor how much. 3 thousand. Just 3 thousand square feet. On the third floor and the second floor the prior artists was zero. Zero. And the proposed ive been calling about 6 thousand that is 5 thousand something or other are the first floor is the deter before. Right now 6 thousand and the basement nothing before and theres like 29 hundred of storage space. It is only assessable from the arts space to basically happens from there the pdr space ill let another commissioners speak. You want to add that up and understand the shift it maybe less desirable space. Allen the seismic ask her is here needs to leave in a few minutes this is the time to ask. Commissioner antonini. Thank you okay. A question first for brittany to substantiates the larger picture were looking at about 49 thousand in retail and 48, 7 in Office Allocation or administrative and around 32 thousand 4 hundred in trade shop are on the job figures accurate. Correct. Good so my point is you know the main thing is trade shop and all the trade shop maybe art but the big categories we have to look at thats the decision between the owner and who is renting at the beginning about the administrative use and he is trades shop needs conditional review not leg