Statistics. We have got some terrible hotspots that not being addressed. 1500 valencia, which im you send a pco there within about two hours and giving out 1012 tickets. Day after day month after month, it was last april, it was this the summer. The only differences weve now changed the ticketing. Instead of giving the redthe bus ticket thats 288, we are giving a red zone ticket for 110. I dont understand how that is supposed to change ongoing bad behavior. The white stones, sounds fine but the metrics are not catching the traffic problems adjacent to these. When they are on arterials which are shared by muni buses the muni buses cannot get through because of the obstruction of traffic that goes on day after day. I live on a street with a habit. Thank you next speaker, please. [calling Public Comment cards] hello. Im in wellington. I may San Francisco native and 26 year resident of castro street. I just want to say that if this Program Continues there are some issues that need to be addressed about new noise seven wait a couple for some improvements and whats happening but because im on a hill every day the buses go by and i hear at 5 30 am going downhill there not as loud but because of the weight of the buses, the tires bark. I mean, thats one thing but going uphill there much louder than muni buses. I live there with muni buses for 26 years. Used to it. Much louder than the electric buses. They are lower than the diesel buses. I try to use a decibel meter grid i dont really know the levels that are acceptable but it can be of two 71 db in a room thats facing castro street. If youre watching television or whatever its completely drowned out. It does have an impact and its stressful. My housemate from his room is closer to castro street and its really stressed out. I just think something needs to change and i encourage you to address that whether it is smaller vehicles were more silent ones. Im not sure. Thank you thank you next speaker, please. [calling Public Comment cards] herbert weiner. I really would like to see a [inaudible] that benefits all parties. For one thing, i can understand the position of younger workers who desperately need a job. Theres also the neighborhoods that are the heart and soul San Francisco. Also the techies may not even have attention when they get to be 60 years of age and may be lining up for general assistance for all i know. One thing that should be pointed out in the agreement between the Bus Companies and mta was built on a house of was a handshake agreement there was no formal contract and at the interest parties to know this. Thats one thing the second thing is given the prt on geary street given the van ness project, how is this going to affect the buses and traffic in general . This has not even been addressed. So you will have further congestion on an already congested van ness ave. And believe me, with the influent implementation of the van ness project is becoming crystal clear. Ive seen muni buses stalled and ive seen it undoubtedly applies to the techie buses. So you really have to postpone a decision on this and really craft a decision that benefits all parties. You cannot ram this thing through. It will be to the detriment of all parties. Thank you. To have any more Public Comment on this item . No . Mr. Warfield. Thank you i am peter warfield. I would like to agree with many of the folks of spoken. Certainly, with perspective the objectives of many those including writers, who want to keep west vehicle miles and so on and so forth. I particularly want to agree though with the folks who say they dont support. I am concerned with huge buses traveling through the neighborhood that i spend most common, which is haightashbury. Theyre completely outsized for the neighborhood i noticed that on one of your pages it says the Commuter Shuttle Program currently keeps large buses on coltranes designated arterials only and i am surprisedi do not think haight street was a caltrains designated arterial. Its very slow and very busy street with one lane going in each direction, plus parts cars. I see these huge buses i was one of the more folks, huge buses and you can see some light coming through, through their darkened windows, you see nobody were almost nobody on these many many times. The use of muni stops by this Privileged Group causes a lot of problems for people who want to get on the muni want to even seen the muni coming, signal the muni that they want to get on that survey problem for anybody who is disabled. It feels as though my [inaudible] look at trees look at buildings in turn to basically a transit sewer grate Privileged Group in a two class system. Those who can pay to play and those who dont. The rest of us it hundred thousand people, plus in San Francisco thank you thank you any more Public Comment we last call anyone . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. [gavel] thank you would you mind coming back up. Im sure my fellow directors have some comments and questions and feedback. Directors, who was i to start. I do have one about the size of the vehicles. When this i said these are license at the state level. Does the locality have any say in this at all on that point . No. We cannot regulate the size of the vehicles. What weve done to the policies of the program is to set the rule that over 35 feet in length has to travel on caltrans designated arterials in order to encourage companies to shift to smaller vehicles would travel on any street unless it has the weight or passenger restriction on. So weve seen a slight switch to smaller vehicles but in general companies have not taken advantage of that. Have we spoken to these Companies Directly yes. B was what is the results that . Divisadero sponsors the larger vehicles better meet their needs than the smaller vehicles. Do we know how many people are writing on these everyday quick in general the occupancies around 60 under the additional work data reporting records will be asking operators are much more detailed occupancy information because we know thats an area where weve seen a lot of questions and concerns. I think right now what you are seeing is the data is collected within the boundaries of San Francisco as we would like to also gather more information on how many people that are picking up once they leave our jurisdiction because sometimes buses can appear empty within the city but are actually making additional stops along the way. So whats offered to the Shuttle Companies in exchange for smaller vehicles is able to write more streets . Exactly. Have we considered any other items in the ceric week the was we have another summer that something were open to doing i dont have any idea without might be but is worth pursuing. Thank you before i move on to my next director i just want to thank all the members of the public who came down to talk about this. We really do appreciate your showing up and take the time off work and coming down here and letting us know what your thoughts are. Director ramosdir. Jim gordon a couple things. I see you are increasing the penalty which is great for infractions both the firsttime and further infractions which is great because i know people have a concern dont charge them can you ask lane again white is we have to charge will be charged for the shuttle stops . Sure. We cant just say 5000 per stop so theres different rules depending on what the fee is paid administrative font fines are for violations of the program and not [inaudible] transportation good as you mentioned we have requested an increase in what we are allowed to charge for permit violations. However for the actual permit fees and operators pay to use. We are required legally to the Cost Recovery which need to create a budget for the program that sets what we charge the operators each time they stop. So a budget was created for our twoyear fiscal cycle and that will end next year in 2018. We will be preparing a budget again for the next to your fiscal cycle. That will give us an opportunity to review the cost associate with the program to determine if operator fees need to be increased or not. Great. I saw in the new requirement new Shuttle Services after june 30 of this show be required to have accessibilityaccessibility requirements. Do know the status of current shuttles in the fleet queen had a meeting obama think we get that Additional Data where he are collecting . Yes. We start to reaching out operators prior to this proposal to try to understand how they meet the needs of those folks with mobility limitations that are using their fleets. And how they work with the employers to provide them with the services needed. So far weve collected some lemon or a data on the percentage of their fleets that are considered accessible in terms of wheelchair ramps and things like that. Also, how they coordinate service with employers when theyre someone who needs access to that type of vehicle. The purpose of the accessibility Plan Requirement is to have that all documented so that we can understand what is the scale of this need. Is it being met and to we need to impose additional requirements to improve accessibility . Great. I know sf bus fleet, the new regulations go into effect for the buses. Is there a way for us to set an mission standards related to the Overall Program or isi know thats hard because had you exactly do that but that something we can look into. That is part of our permit terms and conditions i think its important to remember, too, that these operators have to apply every year to get a permit into that process we can tweak the permit terms and conditions each year as we see new needs are rising and so i think its important to remember we are not locked into certain policies just because the program is continued because we do have this annual renewal process where we have the ability to change embryo harms these operators need to meet. So that is something we can look into in the coming year. Great. Thank you for not answering my questions thank you director ramos thank you i want to second your comments about thanking the public for coming out and speaking today. With your support of or not the comments of that we get and the tremendous amount of correspondence we got because we did get having a meeting fell like hundreds if not thousands of emails about this subject. Many of them continually important points that were not even articulated here today and i respect for time we wont go into that. I stepped staff is reading him as well. I want to recognize that this issue has come before us many times and so much has been said that i would like to say over again but at a perspective, wont. The new development that have happened since the last time we talked about this has been the unfortunate state of our funding of our Mass Transportation system and the cliff that were headed towards if we dont turn that train around so to speak. Recognizing that, on top of the fact that we have got the domain of economy and i should say can we afford to have a growing economy because i am from detroit i know what it looks like when economyeconomy leaves and you dont accommodate the needs of the current industry could its real sad situation. I know that its turning around now but for the most part we are very fortunate to haveto be a center of commerce. I was saying earlier, but had the privilege of traveling a little bit when you go to other towns that dont have this type of economy you learn to realize for a quick real fortunate we are. I would also like to state that i feel like were very fortunate to have an industry thats when to work with us as stated by m napoleon politan thank you. By ms. Politan earlier this a volunteer program. We could do this a coral at work via wild wild west cutaway were everybodys womenowned editors correct to the street and it could just be chaotic. I know plenty of high paid lawyers and executives the part where the heck they want to because of parking tickets is nothing to them. Im confident that in the same way that these industries are making lots of money parking ticket would be nothing to them as well. So i am thankful to the industry that are working with us in making sure that we can get a program that works to meet as many peoples needs as possible. The other news of courses that this traffic is not just our imagination of these two different studies that came out, one speaker mentioned one. There are two. The tomtom study out of amsterdam and thewhat was the other one be in rick study of kirkland washington at two places independent recognition of traffic is getting worse and worse. Every time i think about how bad our traffic is i think about these shuttles google would happen if they were not here. If the company suddenly decided this is too much of a hassle. You know what everybody just do your own thing. The next thing you know weve got 10,000 more cars on our streets or Something Like that. Every day which would be around us in any scenario. So keeping that in mind. All that to be said, this program is far from perfect director nice holy that these things are tremendously cumbersome and just an eyesore. To have a traffic jam on your street full of gigantic bosses is not something that i think anybody would welcome. So i also recognize that we are not laying concrete were not building a train. We are effectively adopting a program as its been currently involved i suspect we will continue to you golf and we will continue to refine it and make it better. So that it does respond to some of the concerns. One of the things i thought was an interesting perspective in addition to looking at the hubble model one of the points i was raised through an email with the idea of actually ringing down the concentration and distributing more, putting more shuttle stops in places which i think initially would be on the kneejerk reaction like how can you say more stops but the logic was such that it would reduce 12 time, reduce the traffic jam on 24th. That we have. I think there is some good rationale into looking at how to we actually make this better so it works for more folks. So i cant say too much more. Well i could say a whole lot more. The last question that ill ask though, is if these folks were not working with us, the Transit Agency and accommodating new transit in our city, where else, what is the other alternative that we have as to accommodating these bus stops on our streets . What would be the alternative just so the public is aware quick that i given out for like for you to cite the sofa was in a Commuter Shuttle Program . Yes. It would be what it was before where they would use white zones double park use muni zones without permissionbased we run the risk of the one catching him in order to get them in moving violation or citation. I think its important to remember this Program Funds enforcement and enables us to regulate them and without that funding we would not be able to dedicate as much enforcement to this. So you have both more illegal behavior and less enforcement to catch that illegal behavior. I suspect if we were to accommodate them in addition to not been able to accommodate them at the bus stops we would have to effectivelyone of the options would be to remove parking and make more white stones. I notice a lot of our Community Already doesnt have enough loading zones and it would seem to me that we could go that route and remove more parking. I suspect that that would not be fair toward their lucy bite too many folks do go on and taking away parking off our public streets. So i like the direction this is going. I do think that we need to find and calculate the true cost of this program and enforcing it. I recognize that there probably is some more wear and tear on the interceptor that comes with boxes versus small cars. Theres a need for more enforcement, more of our parking control officers to be out there. Which i think and maybe even more sfpd if necessary. There is a drain on the system that needs to be accounted for. I think we arei would encourage staff to be working towards making sure that we are figuring out because i suspect is, these do want to play fairly. We love San Francisco. I dont think people are to leave if they cant get to see the shuttle that they have. I think that the companies recognize that weve got a good thing here. Some confident they want to play nicely. But i think that we do need to work on this more to refine it to address the concerns of an raised by so many of the excellent common state. Thank you thank you director ramos director rath thank you for doing all this work. We really appreciate it and appreciate the comments. Did you respond a little bit to the commentor from walk sf queenship for suggested adjustments to the program im interested in hearing what her followup is going to be on that because i thought those were good suggestions here and a few have them handy when tried remember most of my think one was adding technology [inaudible] another was an easy way has been way for folks to report dangerous behavior. [inaudible] and crash data thank you sure. I think some of those things are underway and well two implement them in the future. Under our current internal policy we are setting stops we actually are we tried to do that. Also regarding the shuttle crash data, that is something that we do track internally but we have tried to figure out a better system for tracking it and getting that information to me and my teams we can directly reach out to the shuttle operators. When incidences occur in a timely manner. Also we are moving towards a new interface for both the shuttle operators in terms of how they report information to us as well as a new interface for the public where it will be kind of like 311 in the sense that its on a dedicated webpage where constituents can go and report any issues they are having with a Commuter Shuttle Program. Right now, its done through 311 or directly to staff that will be another tool we hope makes it easier for people to report issues that theyre having and for us to log and track those issues. Then lastly guarding the crash production technology, that something we definitely want to talk with with the operators. In general theres been im